Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 Okay folks. Here's the story and surely hope someone can help me and fast! I've had three ruptured disks since 6/23/2003 (job related injury). I was put on a very strong pain med beginning with " v " (not sure if I can name it??). Had back surgery 12/23/04. In the process of healing but tried to stop " cold turkey " taking the pain med. (I'm trying to deal with the pain by just using aspirin... not working real well but...) My body has this wierd feeling, I can't sit still, can't sleep, I know I'm addicted. I'd questioned my doctor at each visit during the past 1 1/2 yrs....am I going to have a problem getting off this stuff & was always reassured I would not. Well guess what folks... that's not the story! So, go to the doctor and get more drugs to get off the drugs?? Looked in my EDR, took out the oils to use for addiction and using them. Not getting much help. Good golly - if anyone has any ideas, PLEASE let me know. I don't want to be on this stuff. Ardis B. Pillager, Minnesota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Hello Ardis, Are you talking about Vicodin? Hydrocodone? Same thing just a different (or generic) name for Vicodin. Yes it is addictive and I was addicted to it about 10 yrs ago. My doctor picked up the signs and said, " No more! " I wouldn't have known any different if he hadn't told me. Was the first time I'd taken it and I only knew it helped my pain, post surgery (from an accident). Being allergic to codeine, Vicodin was the one alternative that helped me. Drink plenty of water; do a colon cleanse (there are over the counter products for this too). Your doctor may be denying you are addicted because he is accountable. Consider this... the FDA is coming down on doctors who prescribe Vicodin over an extended period of time because of over-prescribing and addiction. If he puts it in your records that you are addicted... what does that say for him? Use caution and take care of yourself. Go with your gut. If you feel that you may be addicted, take control and put your body straight. Sorry I can't help you with much more other than a hug and good wishes. But I am offering advice to you that I gave myself recently. I was taking a different medication for a different problem. Thought I might be addicted so I stopped it and asked for something else. I also asked my doctor to keep it " off the record " because one day I may need to take it again. I'm dealing with a rare degenerative bone syndrome that has no FDA approved drugs to help. So I can't afford to overstay my welcome with any one (presription strength pain reliever) drug nor can I afford to be addicted to any of them. ;o) Best wishes for a speedy recovery! Kathy N , " ardis_b " <ardis_b> wrote: Good golly - > if anyone has any ideas, PLEASE let me know. I don't want to be on > this stuff. > > > Ardis B. Pillager, Minnesota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Good evening Ardis I'm going to let the rest of the group give you info on the oils to use. I looked up info on flower essence. First of all let me say that I looked up " Addiction " and I'm not in anyway implying that you are addicted to or have in anyway abused your pain meds. I just didn't know what else to look under. Here are some suggestions Angelica -- especially useful during drug withdrawal, to help soul realign with benevolent spiritual guides. Chamomile - nervousness, hyperactivity or irritability associated with drug withdrawal; calming and stabilizing Five-Flower Formula (rescue remedy) -- initial treatment of addiction, to stabilize the body-mind; also helpful in treating drug overdose Lavender - sedating nerves frayed from drug use, especially stimulants Morning glory -- breaking free from addictive habits, esp the need for stimulants Self-Heal - overall healing support for addiction therapy; confidence in one's inner resources to overcome addition All my info was obtained from " Flower Essence Repertory " I copied it word for word on those flowers essence that sounded like they might be a fit. Good luck with your journey and hang in there, you'll overcome this Rita ardis_b <ardis_b wrote: Okay folks. Here's the story and surely hope someone can help me and fast! I've had three ruptured disks since 6/23/2003 (job related injury). I was put on a very strong pain med beginning with " v " (not sure if I can name it??). Had back surgery 12/23/04. In the process of healing but tried to stop " cold turkey " taking the pain med. (I'm trying to deal with the pain by just using aspirin... not working real well but...) My body has this wierd feeling, I can't sit still, can't sleep, I know I'm addicted. I'd questioned my doctor at each visit during the past 1 1/2 yrs....am I going to have a problem getting off this stuff & was always reassured I would not. Well guess what folks... that's not the story! So, go to the doctor and get more drugs to get off the drugs?? Looked in my EDR, took out the oils to use for addiction and using them. Not getting much help. Good golly - if anyone has any ideas, PLEASE let me know. I don't want to be on this stuff. Ardis B. Pillager, Minnesota Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves: http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Vicodin/hydrocodone is codeine and tylenol. Karen Sellars ksellars - Kathy N 1/7/2005 8:36:47 PM Re: Getting off pain med's Hello Ardis, Being allergic to codeine, Vicodin was the one alternative that helped me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Hey Karen, Long time no see. How are you doing and it's good to " see " you again. Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The Woobey Queen The Warming Touch, Therapeutic Pillows http://www.woobeyworld.com > [Original Message] > <ksellars > ; > 1/7/2005 7:12:35 PM > RE: Re: Getting off pain med's > > > Vicodin/hydrocodone is codeine and tylenol. > > Karen Sellars > ksellars > > > > - > Kathy N > > 1/7/2005 8:36:47 PM > Re: Getting off pain med's > > > > > Hello Ardis, > Being allergic to > codeine, Vicodin was the one alternative that helped me. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I had vicodin when they fixed my hip, I did not know what they gave me, just thought I had a stroke, for I talked with my jaw moving very slowly, it scared me terribly, thought I would be stuck with that, also had bad concentration problems. Got off the stuff before I left the hospital. Was too scared to be addicted to it. During the past 3 years, I've could have any painkiller under the sun, easily, but toughed it out. I am just too scared of the stuff. Two extra strength tylenol is about all I will take..using an arsenal of herbal remedies that have good power, too. A lot of the commercial painkillers play with your mind, something I absolutely hate... C-M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Vicodin has no codeine. It is hydrocodone which is not codeine...FYI. But it can be hard on the stomach, so it is recommended to take it with food. Cindy Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves for they shall never cease to be amused...Anon coming soon: http://www.cre8tiveside.com ksellars [ksellars] Friday, January 07, 2005 8:13 PM ; RE: Re: Getting off pain med's Vicodin/hydrocodone is codeine and tylenol. Karen Sellars ksellars - Kathy N 1/7/2005 8:36:47 PM Re: Getting off pain med's Hello Ardis, Being allergic to codeine, Vicodin was the one alternative that helped me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Vicodin DOES have a synthetic codeine in it. It is made up of hydrocodone bitartrate and acetaminophen (Tylenol). According to Dorland's Medical Dictionary, hydrocodone is " a semisynthetic narcotic derivative of codeine having sedative and analgesic effects more powerful than those of codeine. " Hydrocodone bitartrate is " a semisynthetic narcotic derivative of codeine used as an antitussive, administered orally. " I wouldn't say that Vicodin is not codeine. It is definitely a narcotic, even if mostly a synthetic one. Kelly - " cindy45 " <cindy45 Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:24 AM RE: Re: Getting off pain med's > > Vicodin has no codeine. It is hydrocodone which is not codeine...FYI. > But > it can be hard on the stomach, so it is recommended to take it with food. > Cindy > > Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves for they shall never cease > to > be amused...Anon > coming soon: http://www.cre8tiveside.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Thank you for this correction. I think I'd be dead now if it had codeine in it. whew! Or there's a mis-diagnosis somewhere in my medical files. ;o) Kathy N , " cindy45 " <cindy45@v...> wrote: > Vicodin has no codeine. It is hydrocodone which is not codeine...FYI. But it can be hard on the stomach, so it is recommended to take it with food. > Cindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Karen, maybe you're thinking about Ultram or Ultracet? That is Tramadol and Tylenol. Regards! Kathy N , " " <ksellars@e...> wrote: > Vicodin/hydrocodone is codeine and tylenol. > > Karen Sellars > ksellars@e... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Hi Ardis, I haven't read all of the responses to your post, so forgive me if I repeat anything that's already been suggested. I wonder if you have tried the homeopathic Arnica Montana for your pain? It's tremendous, all natural and has no contraindications. You'll find it in any vitamin store. Also, the homeopathic Bach Flower Remedy " Walnut " is very helpful for breaking addictions. These are just 2 of many ideas popping into my mind. You will also want to do at least a light detox to support your liver and reduce your " cravings " and/or withdrawl symptoms. Milk Thistle and Dandelion can be used daily. Yogi has a great detox tea, but a combo tincture would be best. If you're up to it, a fast would be a great idea. I would also suggest increasing your water consumption to help flush your body of toxins. Hope this helps, and that you're feeling much better. Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Yup - Vicodin is just like codeine for me - I'm 'allergic' to anything w/ codeine or synthetic codeine - Makes me very nauseated and yicky. So I tell all docs that so they won't give it to me and find something else for pain when needed. Ivy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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