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Hey Deb,

 

> i'm sure that i'm not the only one that's getting the new seed and plant

> catalogs and dreaming of what the coming season will bring.

 

Used to be that way myself when the Burpee Catalog came in.

 

> i am at a stand still of sorts. you see, i am not looking at a nice

> neat 10x10 garden plot. nor landscaping around the house. i am looking

> at 55 ac of land to re-do and bring back to a more native landscape.

 

Leave it along then .. it'll go native in time. ;-)

 

> i am also looking for better plant life for my goats and horses.

 

Goats don't care .. horses (as you know) would prefer oats.

 

> thus the question about the rose. i often see wild roses along the

> roadside. but *and i know kathleen will cringe with the 'but' first*,

> i would like to know what kind of roses these are

 

There be roughly 6,000 + varieties of Roses in the world .. and around

half of them are Wild Roses. We have many dozens of species within a

few miles of me .. some from the time of King Midas.

 

> and would also like to know what type of rose has the largest and

> bestest rose hips.

 

Many .. but primarily:

 

Rosa rugosa or Rosa mosqueta .. large, round and red.

Rosa virginiana ............... small, round and red.

Rosa pimpinellifolia .......... small, round and black.

Rosa moyesli .................. large, elongated and red.

Rosa roxburghii ............... large, elongated, prickly and brown.

 

> i am not so concerned with the scent of the rose as i am of the rose

> hip it offers.

 

Can't relate to that since there are a half dozen shops within a block

of me that have barrels of Rose Hips for sale by the gram or kilo .. its

not something I would spend the time cultivating. ;-)

 

> is it possible to get these road side roses with large hips?

> *butch, behave!*

 

I have seen a few .. and I always behave like a Suthran Gennelman.

Sometimes Road Side Roses .. like Street Kitty Katz .. are worthy of

taking home .. just feed them, clean them up and treat them nice.

Matters not a lot about the hips methinks .. and new petals can make a

sickly Rose look like a Damask Rose in full bloom .. matters more about

the Rose Bud .. or the heart of the Rose .. and the steam .. that part

that nourishes the Blossom. ;-)

 

> the plan is to scatter these thru-out, in smallish clumps.

 

Local County Extension Agent sounds like a good place to start. Wild

Roses are like Cedar Trees .. leave'em alone for two years and they'll

take over fields.

 

> am also looking at hazelnut bushes, chokecherry's, sumac and others,

> along with native grasses and flowers for now, tho, i'm checking on

> roses for the field.

 

Being as I'm an agriculture consultant .. among other things .. I'll

take a contract to turn your land back to a natural state .. with a few

hazelnut bushes, chokeberry bushes, sumac and such .. for a lot less

than you could imagine. And probably be able to handle the contract

without leaving where I am now. ;-)

 

> deb c

> chillicothe, mo

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

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> Wed, 08 Dec 2004 21:35:48 -0800

> Butch Owen <butchbsi

>A Rose is a Rose - Or Not?

>

>>i am at a stand still of sorts. you see, i am not looking at a nice

>>neat 10x10 garden plot. nor landscaping around the house. i am looking

>>at 55 ac of land to re-do and bring back to a more native landscape.

>>

>>

>

>Leave it along then .. it'll go native in time. ;-)

>

`twas pretty natural when we got it but not native prairie.

 

>>and would also like to know what type of rose has the largest and

>>bestest rose hips.

>>

>>

>

>Many .. but primarily:

>

>Rosa rugosa or Rosa mosqueta .. large, round and red.

>Rosa virginiana ............... small, round and red.

>Rosa pimpinellifolia .......... small, round and black.

>Rosa moyesli .................. large, elongated and red.

>Rosa roxburghii ............... large, elongated, prickly and brown.

>

just what i needed to know! thanks for this info.

 

>>i am not so concerned with the scent of the rose as i am of the rose

>>hip it offers.

>>

>>

>

>Can't relate to that since there are a half dozen shops within a block

>of me that have barrels of Rose Hips for sale by the gram or kilo .. its

>not something I would spend the time cultivating. ;-)

>

the rose bush is one of my goats favorite foods to brouse on.

the rose hips are loaded with vit C for them. maybe you could

tell me if these rose hips you talk about, are freeze dried or what?

me thinks tis best for the goats to have them as natural as possible.

 

>>is it possible to get these road side roses with large hips?

>>*butch, behave!*

>>

>>

>

>I have seen a few .. and I always behave like a Suthran Gennelman.

>Sometimes Road Side Roses .. like Street Kitty Katz .. are worthy of

>taking home .. just feed them, clean them up and treat them nice.

>Matters not a lot about the hips methinks .. and new petals can make a

>sickly Rose look like a Damask Rose in full bloom .. matters more about

>the Rose Bud .. or the heart of the Rose .. and the steam .. that part

>that nourishes the Blossom. ;-)

>

me brother n law often thought this way also but i guess his choice

wasn't so good cuz the last 2 was preggers, not with his, and never

bloomed into anything but skunk weed!

 

>>am also looking at hazelnut bushes, chokecherry's, sumac and others,

>>along with native grasses and flowers for now, tho, i'm checking on

>>roses for the field.

>>

>>

>

>Being as I'm an agriculture consultant .. among other things .. I'll

>take a contract to turn your land back to a natural state .. with a few

>hazelnut bushes, chokeberry bushes, sumac and such .. for a lot less

>than you could imagine. And probably be able to handle the contract

>without leaving where I am now. ;-)

>

such a talented man, ye are! if in you did it from the comforts of

your favorite arm chair, you couldn't be here to play with the new

baby goatlets that are expected here in feb. that truely would be a shame.

you also wouldn't get the benifit of wandering the hills and walking in

the cow pies. such a dreadful shame. :-P

deb c

chillicothe, mo

 

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