RE: flu shots & a rant about them (with more than a little info)_

[Guest guest]

I know this question wasn't directed at me, but I have an opinion on the matter!

 

My first and foremost problem with the flu shot or vaccines in general is that

they are only for one specific type of flu bug (variant) there are about 50,000

strains of the flu virus and it mutates constantly. When one is vaccinated

against " the flu " it only covers a handful of the variants. Soooooo just

because you have taken the shot does NOT in any way guarantee that you will not

become ill from another strain of the virus. Taken straight out of the PDR, 200

edition. It is a huge annual money maker $15 bucks a pop, times how many ever

million per year.

 

This also from the PDR - oh that golden book from the great medical

establishment - it is grown in eggs containing chicken embryos, it contains

thimerosal (a mercury derived preservative - YES, even now, check the cdc site,

if you don't belive me), it contains natural dry rubber latex (wonder why we are

so " latex " intolerant of late?), in addition, " respiratory disease after

vaccination is coincidental and unrelated to influenza vaccination " - yeah

whatever -

 

As far as side effects: fever, malaize, myalgia, and other systemic symptoms

can occur following vaccination. Immediate - presumably allergic reactions

(hives, allergic asthma, systemic anaphylaxis, and angioedema) rarely occur (but

it does not give the efficacy). During the 1976 Flu season, the vaccine was

related to increased frequency of Guillain - Barre' syndrome. Neurological

disorders temporarlly associated with influenza vaccination, such as

encephalopathy (go look up " mad cow disease " for BSE) , optic

neuritis/neuropathy, partial facial paralysis and brachial plexus neuropathy

have been reported. This was reported fron as little as 2 hours to 2 weeks

post vaccination.

 

The virus is killed with formaldehyde, it is concentrated and purified in a

linear sucrose density gradient soulation using a continuous flow centrifuge.

The viurs is then chemically disrupted using Polyethylene Glycol

p-isooctylphenyl Ether, producing a " split antigen " . Itis then further purified

by chemical means and suspended in a phosphate - buffered isotonic sodium

chloride solution. Thimersal is added as a preservative and gelatin as a

stabilizer.

 

And here I go with my politics - the " frenzy " over the flu vaccine shortage is

just an attempt to keep the American public off balance as to the REAL problems

that the United States, as a people, are facing. We also have the frenzy over

the " war on drugs " " war on terror " " oil prices, " etc. When is the last time you

heard REAL news reported by jounalists who were not govererned by the media

moguls? All the " news " on ALL the stations is the same! Ridiculous!

 

Plus if the gov't keeps screaming about the flu vaccine shortage, maybe folks

would be less inclined to sue the vaccine makers - they can't make any money if

people do that! That is why we NOW have a $250,000 limit on vaccine

manufacturer liability. So what if you are harmed or your kid dies, not the

vaccine makers fault! Here's your $250,000.00 That is what the lives of the

American public are worth.

 

Just my .02, of course.

 

Jill Mc.

Alabama

 

Pamela Gardner <pgardner wrote:

 

I hope I'm not opening up a can of worms . . . . what is your objection to

the flu shot? I know there must be something wrong with them, with the

'shortage' here in the states and the surrounding circumstances, doesn't

leave a consumer with that 'warm fuzzy feeling'.

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Just my .02, of course.

 

I would give you MY .02 cents worth but you already mentioned everything. You GO

girl!

Hugs

Neysa

Roll Tide!

(Walker County refugees!)

 

 

[Guest guest]

Only rant you forgot is MY pet peeve: they are pushing this damn vaccine on the

pregnant and the elderly! If I were into conspiracy theories.....

 

and I'm not snipping Jill's post because it is a classic and if you missed it

the first time here's your chance to file it!

 

Dale

-

Jill McDanal

Friday, December 03, 2004 11:33 PM

RE: flu shots & a rant about them (with more than a

little info)_

 

 

I know this question wasn't directed at me, but I have an opinion on the

matter!

 

My first and foremost problem with the flu shot or vaccines in general is that

they are only for one specific type of flu bug (variant) there are about 50,000

strains of the flu virus and it mutates constantly. When one is vaccinated

against " the flu " it only covers a handful of the variants. Soooooo just

because you have taken the shot does NOT in any way guarantee that you will not

become ill from another strain of the virus. Taken straight out of the PDR, 200

edition. It is a huge annual money maker $15 bucks a pop, times how many ever

million per year.

 

This also from the PDR - oh that golden book from the great medical

establishment - it is grown in eggs containing chicken embryos, it contains

thimerosal (a mercury derived preservative - YES, even now, check the cdc site,

if you don't belive me), it contains natural dry rubber latex (wonder why we are

so " latex " intolerant of late?), in addition, " respiratory disease after

vaccination is coincidental and unrelated to influenza vaccination " - yeah

whatever -

 

As far as side effects: fever, malaize, myalgia, and other systemic symptoms

can occur following vaccination. Immediate - presumably allergic reactions

(hives, allergic asthma, systemic anaphylaxis, and angioedema) rarely occur (but

it does not give the efficacy). During the 1976 Flu season, the vaccine was

related to increased frequency of Guillain - Barre' syndrome. Neurological

disorders temporarlly associated with influenza vaccination, such as

encephalopathy (go look up " mad cow disease " for BSE) , optic

neuritis/neuropathy, partial facial paralysis and brachial plexus neuropathy

have been reported. This was reported fron as little as 2 hours to 2 weeks

post vaccination.

 

The virus is killed with formaldehyde, it is concentrated and purified in a

linear sucrose density gradient soulation using a continuous flow centrifuge.

The viurs is then chemically disrupted using Polyethylene Glycol

p-isooctylphenyl Ether, producing a " split antigen " . Itis then further purified

by chemical means and suspended in a phosphate - buffered isotonic sodium

chloride solution. Thimersal is added as a preservative and gelatin as a

stabilizer.

 

And here I go with my politics - the " frenzy " over the flu vaccine shortage is

just an attempt to keep the American public off balance as to the REAL problems

that the United States, as a people, are facing. We also have the frenzy over

the " war on drugs " " war on terror " " oil prices, " etc. When is the last time you

heard REAL news reported by jounalists who were not govererned by the media

moguls? All the " news " on ALL the stations is the same! Ridiculous!

 

Plus if the gov't keeps screaming about the flu vaccine shortage, maybe folks

would be less inclined to sue the vaccine makers - they can't make any money if

people do that! That is why we NOW have a $250,000 limit on vaccine

manufacturer liability. So what if you are harmed or your kid dies, not the

vaccine makers fault! Here's your $250,000.00 That is what the lives of the

American public are worth.

 

Just my .02, of course.

 

Jill Mc.

Alabama

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Wow Jill, Thanks for the info about the flu vaccine. I had no idea. I knew about

the egg thing but after reading all this, it sounds like one might get sicker

from the shot than the flu. Maybe thats why I've never felt the need to get one.

 

Maybe the flu shots have a " placebo " effect on the public in general -- If I get

my flu shot I won't get sick -- and therefore they are less likely too.

 

Thanks again for all the info

 

Rita

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

<clapping my hands> I stand up and applaud !!!! Well said !

 

-

Dale Bernucca<dbernucca

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Friday, December 03, 2004 11:08 PM

Re: flu shots & a rant about them (with more than a

little info)_

 

 

Only rant you forgot is MY pet peeve: they are pushing this damn vaccine on

the pregnant and the elderly! If I were into conspiracy theories.....

 

and I'm not snipping Jill's post because it is a classic and if you missed it

the first time here's your chance to file it!

 

Dale

-

Jill McDanal

Friday, December 03, 2004 11:33 PM

RE: flu shots & a rant about them (with more than a

little info)_