Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 As someone who spent five years administering an ISO-9000 (the " Quality " standards) program, I have to throw in my 2 cents here. The International Organization for Standardization ( " ISO " - it's *not* an acronym) does NOT certify ANYTHING. ISO creates standards. End of story. Each Country that uses these standards creates or designates an Authority (in most countries it is a Government Agency, but not in the US) that audits companies to confirm that they are meeting the ISO standards they are required to meet. When I was doing ISO, we were not allowed by our Auditor to use the phrase " ISO-Certified " . A visit just now to www.iso.org shows that ISO still does not endorse a generic " ISO-Certified " , they require that the specific standard be named, i.e. " ISO-9000:2000 Certified " . So, claiming that one's product is " ISO-Certified " without naming a specific standard or set of standards tells us very, very little. And as an aside on how ISO can be manipulated, the company I did ISO for had the Warehouse certified compliant, so they could claim " ISO-9002 certified " , but that applied to the material handling processes in the warehouse, NOT the manufacturing processes for the products. Back to Lurkdom, Melissa Bell This communication, together with any attachments hereto or links contained herein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is confidential or legally protected. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution or use of this communication is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail message and delete the original and all copies of the communication, along with any attachments hereto or links herein, from your system. ____________________ This e-mail has been scanned by MCI Managed Email Content Service, using Skeptic technology powered by MessageLabs. For more information on MCI's Managed Email Content Service, visit http://www.mci.com. ____________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 And just in case anyone was wondering (doubtful I'm sure!) ... AFNOR stands for the Association Francaise des Normes - in other words the French government's standards organisation - they decide on the parameters of 'normal', ie, THE standard, for all kinds of things, including some EOs. BTW - since when did Mother Nature do 'normal' or 'standard'??!! Jane - Melissa Bell Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:36 PM RE:YL - ISO " Certification " As someone who spent five years administering an ISO-9000 (the " Quality " standards) program, I have to throw in my 2 cents here. The International Organization for Standardization ( " ISO " - it's *not* an acronym) does NOT certify ANYTHING. ISO creates standards. End of story. Each Country that uses these standards creates or designates an Authority (in most countries it is a Government Agency, but not in the US) that audits companies to confirm that they are meeting the ISO standards they are required to meet. When I was doing ISO, we were not allowed by our Auditor to use the phrase " ISO-Certified " . A visit just now to www.iso.org shows that ISO still does not endorse a generic " ISO-Certified " , they require that the specific standard be named, i.e. " ISO-9000:2000 Certified " . So, claiming that one's product is " ISO-Certified " without naming a specific standard or set of standards tells us very, very little. And as an aside on how ISO can be manipulated, the company I did ISO for had the Warehouse certified compliant, so they could claim " ISO-9002 certified " , but that applied to the material handling processes in the warehouse, NOT the manufacturing processes for the products. Back to Lurkdom, Melissa Bell This communication, together with any attachments hereto or links contained herein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is confidential or legally protected. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution or use of this communication is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail message and delete the original and all copies of the communication, along with any attachments hereto or links herein, from your system. ____________________ This e-mail has been scanned by MCI Managed Email Content Service, using Skeptic technology powered by MessageLabs. For more information on MCI's Managed Email Content Service, visit http://www.mci.com. ____________________ Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves: http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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