YL: To Butch and Martin

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Hi Andrea,

 

> (Margaret has let me know who I was replying to (re: Martin) and I

> have gone to his website and read a bit.)

>

> Okay, I have some big problems with the both of you referencing the

> Quackwatch sites in reference to YL/GY

 

You should not have problems with that .. methinks.

 

All of this began back in 1995 or 1996 when Graham Sorenson asked me to

investigate some claims made on Gary Young's Bio .. claims involving his

activities here in Turkey. I did that and I reported the results to the

Idma List .. that post is in my old (dead) PC now .. I might find it and

if I do I would have to copy it word by word as there is no way for me

to extract anything from that PC.

 

So .. Graham .. if you have that post .. will you send it to me?

 

Barrett's credibility can be questioned .. and he is down on alternative

treatment modalities as a whole .. he has made negative comments over

the years but he didn't put forth a lot of effort to trash YL until this

article.. In this case, he has gone to the wire in his expose of Gary

Young and YL .. so I salute him for that. Even if he were against

alternative/complementary modes of treatment I wouldn't consider him a

threat now .. but rather an ally. Battles can create a need for strange

bedfellows .. and my enemy's enemy is my friend, etc., etc.

 

> Have either of you bothered to read all of the other blather on these

> sites?

 

See the next post .. and also I am assuming from your assumptions that

you don't know Martin or Butch Owen very well. I have read all there is

to read on Young Living .. and I had their article before it was even

published.

 

> I suggest you actually read at least some of what he is writing about.

 

I suggest you read the second of the two posts I will send in a few.

 

> I've got a pretty good idea of what this Barret guy is all about from

> reading on his site.

 

Good .. so lets kill the messenger and disregard all he has to say.

 

> It is my opinion that you would be giving yourself more credibility if

> you referenced someone/something else as regards YL/GY

 

Unfortunately, I can't reference some of the people I have personally

talked with face-to-face .. even during my last trip to the USA. These

are people who were there and lived some of the experiences .. who know

more than I have permission to present on a Newsgroup.

 

And .. I am not trying to crucify Young Living .. I am trying to present

information that will give folks another look at the claims they make.

 

> As I have said before, I do not, nor have I ever used YL oils --ran

> the other way when I heard of them. I'm doing the same thing with

> this Quackwatch site. And I haven't believed even half of what I have

> read about AT and essential oils.

 

Quackwatch you can take or leave .. matters not to me. As for not

believing half of what you read about AT and EO .. even though your

statement appears to be coming from a position of anger .. its still a

smart position to take .. methinks. ;-)

 

> And for me to take even half of what either nut-job is saying as truth

> (GY and Barret) is a feat I cannot accomplish.

 

OK. But .. why the anger?

 

> Andrea

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com