HPV and HIV

October 26, 2004

I am sorry I will qualify why I made the statement.

I have a son who teaches microbiology in a University. He has also

spent many hours with the CDC doctors. His comment was that they may

not be called the same but the HIV has mutated into 4 different

mutations. The medical institution only can screen for one and are

just now developing a test for the second mutation. We are never

told these things because they do not want to alarm the people and to

state that it is now an epedemic, for this would mean the insurance

companies would have to pay out if it is so classified. And

government will not bite the hand that feeds it.

As an example for you, he has just returned from a lecture from the

CDC and there were 2 different lectures he went to. One was on small

pox and the next was on sars. Even the professors that were giving

the 2nd lecture made the statement that his slide on sars was

identical to the small pox pattern. They even checked to make sure

that they did not mixup the slides. Now will we be told all they now

have found. I have not read it yet.

We are not told the truth about STDs. They constantly change the

name of viruses so that we can not put it all together for

ourselves. Even medical doctors are lied to so we do not find out

the truth.

So I was just a little shocked when no one knew this. But I should

not have spoken out so plainly. I have realized it makes people

upset to learn the truth and most can not believe it that the

governments would be like this. So I do appoligize to all for my

rudeness. I will have to watch I do not get too pasionate about a

topic.

Barbara

October 26, 2004

I'm sorry Barbara, but I still do not see the proof that HPV and HIV are one

and the same. Can you provide such information?

Cheers

Deb

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" sewingstorms " <sewingstorms

Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:11 PM

HPV and HIV

>

> I am sorry I will qualify why I made the statement.

> I have a son who teaches microbiology in a University. He has also

> spent many hours with the CDC doctors. His comment was that they may

> not be called the same but the HIV has mutated into 4 different

> mutations. The medical institution only can screen for one and are

> just now developing a test for the second mutation. We are never

> told these things because they do not want to alarm the people and to

> state that it is now an epedemic, for this would mean the insurance

> companies would have to pay out if it is so classified. And

> government will not bite the hand that feeds it.

October 26, 2004

Barbara,

Thank you for your answers. It's Ok to be passionate about something.

Also, I am sure that the HIV virus has mutatet into different directions.

However, the papilloma virus was there way before HIV and is a cousin

to sold sores , warts etc.

Since you seem to have connections to research, it would be wonderful if

you could find the CDC studies , links to it so we can find the newest

research and read about it ourselves, for I admit, I am still not

convinced that those two are related, other than being STD.

And I agree with you, I don't trust the government either...look what's

going on with the flu shots.

An American company in England and it was not even our FDA finding the

contamination.., no back up for it for all the drug manufacturers are

going for producing more profitable drugs..

C-M

October 26, 2004

hi deb, nope they are not one in the same. HPV is related to genital warts and

cervical abnormalities.

HIV precursor to AIDS from what i have read.

now, they both attack the immune system in some way, but so does the common

cold. that would be the only relation, besides being an STD.

hugs,

Nessy

Deb Mahoney <deb_mahoney wrote:

I'm sorry Barbara, but I still do not see the proof that HPV and HIV are one

and the same. Can you provide such information?

Cheers

Deb

October 26, 2004

Hi Barbara,

Well, I have been reading this thread and I still don't see why you believe

that HPV is a mutated form of HIV other then that this is what your son said.

HPV has been around a very long time but HIV has only been here in the states

since the late 70's early 80's. I know that small pox and shingles are related

but they effect the body very differently. The same is true about the herpie

virus and cold sores and the chicken pox virus. They are all related but are

still very different. I am not surprised that the HIV virus has mutated but to

say that HPV is HIV is a strong statement without more information.

Of course our government keeps secrets. They always have. While in England

back in the mid 80's I watched a program on the BBC about Aides and the HIV

virus. They were claiming that our own government introduced the virus to our

service men and women to identify the homosexuals in the service and that it

back fired. Now I have no idea if this is truth or fiction. It is just what the

program was about. We all know that the HIV virus is from a certain monkey found

in Africa and that many tribes there have a very high HIV infection. For many

years , and maybe they still do, England did not allow their citizens to go to

certain parts of Africa because the HIV virus was so high amongst the

population.

All in all I would like to know more about this subject if you want to share

the information.

Sally

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sewingstorms<sewingstorms

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Monday, October 25, 2004 11:11 PM

HPV and HIV

I am sorry I will qualify why I made the statement.

I have a son who teaches microbiology in a University. He has also

spent many hours with the CDC doctors. His comment was that they may

not be called the same but the HIV has mutated into 4 different

mutations. The medical institution only can screen for one and are

just now developing a test for the second mutation. We are never

told these things because they do not want to alarm the people and to

state that it is now an epedemic, for this would mean the insurance

companies would have to pay out if it is so classified. And

government will not bite the hand that feeds it.

October 26, 2004

There are actually several versions of the rumor you mention, the gov

invented aids, the cia did, different reasons, some the same... several

variations.... here is the scoop about the aids though (and a little

education about it ... prety neat article)

http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/aids.asp

Judy Lynn

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" Sally Trew " <SallyTrew2

Tuesday, October 26, 2004 2:57 PM

Re: HPV and HIV

>

> Hi Barbara,

> Well, I have been reading this thread and I still don't see why you

believe that HPV is a mutated form of HIV other then that this is what your

son said. HPV has been around a very long time but HIV has only been here in

the states since the late 70's early 80's. I know that small pox and

shingles are related but they effect the body very differently. The same is

true about the herpie virus and cold sores and the chicken pox virus. They

are all related but are still very different. I am not surprised that the

HIV virus has mutated but to say that HPV is HIV is a strong statement

without more information.

> Of course our government keeps secrets. They always have. While in

England back in the mid 80's I watched a program on the BBC about Aides and

the HIV virus. They were claiming that our own government introduced the

virus to our service men and women to identify the homosexuals in the

service and that it back fired. Now I have no idea if this is truth or

fiction. It is just what the program was about. We all know that the HIV

virus is from a certain monkey found in Africa and that many tribes there

have a very high HIV infection. For many years , and maybe they still do,

England did not allow their citizens to go to certain parts of Africa

because the HIV virus was so high amongst the population.

> All in all I would like to know more about this subject if you want to

share the information.

>

> Sally

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> sewingstorms<sewingstorms

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> Monday, October 25, 2004 11:11 PM

> HPV and HIV