Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Hi All, I received this article from a Dr. WC Douglass, MD, who seems a bit of a rogue in the medical profession. I had not heard these negative side effects of Tamiflu before, and wonder if any of you can confirm this info. I know it is a " drug " , but it is based on a Chinese herb (I forget right now which herb) Thanks in advance! " Tamiflu linked to " bizarre " reactions Dear Friend, It's yet another case of the cure being worse than the disease. In the UK, more than half of the kids who have taken Tamiflu -- the antibiotic weapon of choice to combat the H1N1 virus -- have experienced side effects. Although most of these side effects have been minor (such as stomach cramps and nausea), as many as one in five of these kid have had disturbing, " neuropsychiatric " reactions to the drug. Reports say that kids have had an inability to think clearly, have suffered from nightmares, and have behaved " strangely. " Unfortunately, these reactions are nothing new. The dangers of Tamiflu are well-documented. It's even been linked to the deaths of some children and teenagers. It's really no wonder. The drug is not just an antibiotic, like so many assume it is -- it's a neuraminidase inhibitor that blocks viral enzymes that can assist the flu virus in infecting the respiratory tract. In the U.S., the FDA has acknowledged that there have been as many as 1,800 reports of kids experiencing abnormal behavior when they're given Tamiful. In Japan, they've actually banned the use of Tamiflu by kids. But because the UK is in such a cold panic over swine flu, they're handing out Tamiflu like candy. Believe it or not, there's even a telephone hotline and website where people can order a prescription without having to consult a doctor. So far, as many as 150,000 people have been prescribed the drug in this manner. No wonder so many kids are having so many side effects. At the first sign of a runny nose or a headache, their parents are pumping them full of Tamiflu, thanks to Dr. Web. All of these risks in order to reduce the flu symptoms by less than two days. That's right: according to the makers of Tamiflu, clinical tests have shown that the drug only has the ability to reduce the duration of symptoms by about 36 hours. It just doesn't add up. " Traditional Oriental Medicine Happy Hours in the CALM Center 635 S. 10th St. Cottonwood, AZ 86326 (928) 274-1373 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 There are reports that documented the suicides in teenagers taking Tamiflu in Japan. Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology ; Chinese Traditional Medicine ; alumni Sun, 6 Sep 2009 09:43:43 -0700 Negative report on Tamiflu Hi All, I received this article from a Dr. WC Douglass, MD, who seems a bit of a rogue in the medical profession. I had not heard these negative side effects of Tamiflu before, and wonder if any of you can confirm this info. I know it is a " drug " , but it is based on a Chinese herb (I forget right now which herb) Thanks in advance! " Tamiflu linked to " bizarre " reactions Dear Friend, It's yet another case of the cure being worse than the disease. In the UK, more than half of the kids who have taken Tamiflu -- the antibiotic weapon of choice to combat the H1N1 virus -- have experienced side effects. Although most of these side effects have been minor (such as stomach cramps and nausea), as many as one in five of these kid have had disturbing, " neuropsychiatric " reactions to the drug. Reports say that kids have had an inability to think clearly, have suffered from nightmares, and have behaved " strangely. " Unfortunately, these reactions are nothing new. The dangers of Tamiflu are well-documented. It's even been linked to the deaths of some children and teenagers. It's really no wonder. The drug is not just an antibiotic, like so many assume it is -- it's a neuraminidase inhibitor that blocks viral enzymes that can assist the flu virus in infecting the respiratory tract. In the U.S., the FDA has acknowledged that there have been as many as 1,800 reports of kids experiencing abnormal behavior when they're given Tamiful. In Japan, they've actually banned the use of Tamiflu by kids. But because the UK is in such a cold panic over swine flu, they're handing out Tamiflu like candy. Believe it or not, there's even a telephone hotline and website where people can order a prescription without having to consult a doctor. So far, as many as 150,000 people have been prescribed the drug in this manner. No wonder so many kids are having so many side effects. At the first sign of a runny nose or a headache, their parents are pumping them full of Tamiflu, thanks to Dr. Web. All of these risks in order to reduce the flu symptoms by less than two days. That's right: according to the makers of Tamiflu, clinical tests have shown that the drug only has the ability to reduce the duration of symptoms by about 36 hours. It just doesn't add up. " Traditional Oriental Medicine Happy Hours in the CALM Center 635 S. 10th St. Cottonwood, AZ 86326 (928) 274-1373 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Wow! Traditional Oriental Medicine Happy Hours in the CALM Center 635 S. 10th St. Cottonwood, AZ 86326 (928) 274-1373 --- On Sun, 9/6/09, Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic wrote: Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic RE: Negative report on Tamiflu " traditional chinese med " <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Sunday, September 6, 2009, 10:49 AM There are reports that documented the suicides in teenagers taking Tamiflu in Japan. Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology ; Chinese Traditional Medicine ; alumni Sun, 6 Sep 2009 09:43:43 -0700 Negative report on Tamiflu Hi All, I received this article from a Dr. WC Douglass, MD, who seems a bit of a rogue in the medical profession. I had not heard these negative side effects of Tamiflu before, and wonder if any of you can confirm this info. I know it is a " drug " , but it is based on a Chinese herb (I forget right now which herb) Thanks in advance! " Tamiflu linked to " bizarre " reactions Dear Friend, It's yet another case of the cure being worse than the disease. In the UK, more than half of the kids who have taken Tamiflu -- the antibiotic weapon of choice to combat the H1N1 virus -- have experienced side effects. Although most of these side effects have been minor (such as stomach cramps and nausea), as many as one in five of these kid have had disturbing, " neuropsychiatric " reactions to the drug. Reports say that kids have had an inability to think clearly, have suffered from nightmares, and have behaved " strangely. " Unfortunately, these reactions are nothing new. The dangers of Tamiflu are well-documented. It's even been linked to the deaths of some children and teenagers. It's really no wonder. The drug is not just an antibiotic, like so many assume it is -- it's a neuraminidase inhibitor that blocks viral enzymes that can assist the flu virus in infecting the respiratory tract. In the U.S., the FDA has acknowledged that there have been as many as 1,800 reports of kids experiencing abnormal behavior when they're given Tamiful. In Japan, they've actually banned the use of Tamiflu by kids. But because the UK is in such a cold panic over swine flu, they're handing out Tamiflu like candy. Believe it or not, there's even a telephone hotline and website where people can order a prescription without having to consult a doctor. So far, as many as 150,000 people have been prescribed the drug in this manner. No wonder so many kids are having so many side effects. At the first sign of a runny nose or a headache, their parents are pumping them full of Tamiflu, thanks to Dr. Web. All of these risks in order to reduce the flu symptoms by less than two days. That's right: according to the makers of Tamiflu, clinical tests have shown that the drug only has the ability to reduce the duration of symptoms by about 36 hours. It just doesn't add up. " Traditional Oriental Medicine Happy Hours in the CALM Center 635 S. 10th St. Cottonwood, AZ 86326 (928) 274-1373 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 I think it's based on star anise, but the way it is used in western terms does not conform to TCM pattern diagnosis. - " " < " Chinese Herbal Medicine " ; " TCM List " <Chinese Traditional Medicine >; " alumni PCOM " <alumni Sunday, September 06, 2009 9:43 AM Negative report on Tamiflu Hi All, I received this article from a Dr. WC Douglass, MD, who seems a bit of a rogue in the medical profession. I had not heard these negative side effects of Tamiflu before, and wonder if any of you can confirm this info. I know it is a " drug " , but it is based on a Chinese herb (I forget right now which herb) Thanks in advance! " Tamiflu linked to " bizarre " reactions Dear Friend, It's yet another case of the cure being worse than the disease. In the UK, more than half of the kids who have taken Tamiflu -- the antibiotic weapon of choice to combat the H1N1 virus -- have experienced side effects. Although most of these side effects have been minor (such as stomach cramps and nausea), as many as one in five of these kid have had disturbing, " neuropsychiatric " reactions to the drug. Reports say that kids have had an inability to think clearly, have suffered from nightmares, and have behaved " strangely. " Unfortunately, these reactions are nothing new. The dangers of Tamiflu are well-documented. It's even been linked to the deaths of some children and teenagers. It's really no wonder. The drug is not just an antibiotic, like so many assume it is -- it's a neuraminidase inhibitor that blocks viral enzymes that can assist the flu virus in infecting the respiratory tract. In the U.S., the FDA has acknowledged that there have been as many as 1,800 reports of kids experiencing abnormal behavior when they're given Tamiful. In Japan, they've actually banned the use of Tamiflu by kids. But because the UK is in such a cold panic over swine flu, they're handing out Tamiflu like candy. Believe it or not, there's even a telephone hotline and website where people can order a prescription without having to consult a doctor. So far, as many as 150,000 people have been prescribed the drug in this manner. No wonder so many kids are having so many side effects. At the first sign of a runny nose or a headache, their parents are pumping them full of Tamiflu, thanks to Dr. Web. All of these risks in order to reduce the flu symptoms by less than two days. That's right: according to the makers of Tamiflu, clinical tests have shown that the drug only has the ability to reduce the duration of symptoms by about 36 hours. It just doesn't add up. " Traditional Oriental Medicine Happy Hours in the CALM Center 635 S. 10th St. Cottonwood, AZ 86326 (928) 274-1373 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Yeah, there was a cult film from japan called, " the suicide club " , but its social origins are obscure, but it relates. --- On Sun, 9/6/09, < wrote: < RE: Negative report on Tamiflu Chinese Medicine Sunday, September 6, 2009, 2:18 PM Wow! Traditional Oriental Medicine Happy Hours in the CALM Center 635 S. 10th St. Cottonwood, AZ 86326 (928) 274-1373 --- On Sun, 9/6/09, Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic@ hotmail.com> wrote: Patricia Jordan <coastalcatclinic@ hotmail.com> RE: Negative report on Tamiflu " traditional chinese med " <traditional_ chinese_medicine > Sunday, September 6, 2009, 10:49 AM There are reports that documented the suicides in teenagers taking Tamiflu in Japan. Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology ; traditional_ chinese_medicine ; alumni@pacificcolle ge.edu Sun, 6 Sep 2009 09:43:43 -0700 Negative report on Tamiflu Hi All, I received this article from a Dr. WC Douglass, MD, who seems a bit of a rogue in the medical profession. I had not heard these negative side effects of Tamiflu before, and wonder if any of you can confirm this info. I know it is a " drug " , but it is based on a Chinese herb (I forget right now which herb) Thanks in advance! " Tamiflu linked to " bizarre " reactions Dear Friend, It's yet another case of the cure being worse than the disease. In the UK, more than half of the kids who have taken Tamiflu -- the antibiotic weapon of choice to combat the H1N1 virus -- have experienced side effects. Although most of these side effects have been minor (such as stomach cramps and nausea), as many as one in five of these kid have had disturbing, " neuropsychiatric " reactions to the drug. Reports say that kids have had an inability to think clearly, have suffered from nightmares, and have behaved " strangely. " Unfortunately, these reactions are nothing new. The dangers of Tamiflu are well-documented. It's even been linked to the deaths of some children and teenagers. It's really no wonder. The drug is not just an antibiotic, like so many assume it is -- it's a neuraminidase inhibitor that blocks viral enzymes that can assist the flu virus in infecting the respiratory tract. In the U.S., the FDA has acknowledged that there have been as many as 1,800 reports of kids experiencing abnormal behavior when they're given Tamiful. In Japan, they've actually banned the use of Tamiflu by kids. But because the UK is in such a cold panic over swine flu, they're handing out Tamiflu like candy. Believe it or not, there's even a telephone hotline and website where people can order a prescription without having to consult a doctor. So far, as many as 150,000 people have been prescribed the drug in this manner. No wonder so many kids are having so many side effects. At the first sign of a runny nose or a headache, their parents are pumping them full of Tamiflu, thanks to Dr. Web. All of these risks in order to reduce the flu symptoms by less than two days. That's right: according to the makers of Tamiflu, clinical tests have shown that the drug only has the ability to reduce the duration of symptoms by about 36 hours. It just doesn't add up. " Traditional Oriental Medicine Happy Hours in the CALM Center 635 S. 10th St. Cottonwood, AZ 86326 (928) 274-1373 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 I do not know anything about a " suicide club " but even the FDA had to make a warning on the Tamiflu bottle about it. Interesting that they don't mention what the " bizarre behavioral changes " are or that they leave suicide information out. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15701254/ Tamiflu takers: Watch out for bizarre behavior FDA adds ‘abnormal’ precaution to label of flu drug Most popular updated 12:18 p.m. ET, Thurs., Dec . 7, 2006 More than 100 recent cases of delirium, hallucinations and other unusual psychiatric behavior in Japanese patients treated with Tamiflu should have parents watching for similar reactions when treating their children with the flu drug. That’s the new advice from the Food and Drug Administration in adding a new precaution to the label of the influenza drug, prescribed about 2 million times a year in the United States. The FDA updated the label after receiving the 103 reports of abnormal behavior, most of which involved children in Japan. Japan uses more Tamiflu than any other country in the world, with more than 30 million prescriptions since 2001. It’s been prescribed about 8 million times in the U.S. since 1999. The FDA said a relationship between the drug and the behavior had not been established and that the updated label was " intended to mitigate a potential risk associated with Tamiflu. " It recommends that close monitoring of patients begin immediately after starting treatment with the drug. The changes bring the U.S. label more in line with the Japanese one, which already warned that such abnormal behavior could occur. The previous FDA-approved label mentioned only that " seizure and confusion " had been seen in some patients cont....... Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology _______________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB & publ=WLHMTAG & crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSch\ ool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Chinese Medicine , " Mercurius Trismegistus " <magisterium_magnum wrote: > > I think it's based on star anise, but the way it is used in western terms > does not conform to TCM pattern diagnosis. I did quite a deal of research about this drug several months ago; posted my findings on my blog http://margihealing.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/veracity-an-anti-viral-and-the-pand\ emic/. The side-effects are well-documented, and are no secret. I still don't understand why something which is well-documented to have side-effects as significant as influenza itself, and which is also documented by Roche - the maker - to have those neuro-psychiatric effects, is so aggressively promoted by allopaths who live and breathe EBM [ Evidence Based Medicine ]. It borders on the bizarre! Yes, the product does have its origins in one of the phytochemicals - an acid I think - found in star anise, but it goes through a number of chemical processes to get it to the state it is in " Tamiflu " . 20 steps from memory; phosphorylation etc etc [any chemists out there?] TCM it aint. But a harbinger of things to come, as " big pharma " selectively sources single molecules from the multitudes made by plants... distorts them, and makes them into something else, devoid of synergy, co-factors etc Margi Macdonald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 90% of what " medicine " does would not meet the qualifications in order that define " evidence based medicine " , vaccines is the biggest, chemotherapy follows. I have found the big words of " evidence based " are defined " no it isn't " . This is actually not my view but the facts. Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology Chinese Medicine margi.macdonald Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:57:20 +0000 Re: Negative report on Tamiflu Chinese Medicine , " Mercurius Trismegistus " <magisterium_magnum wrote: > > I think it's based on star anise, but the way it is used in western terms > does not conform to TCM pattern diagnosis. I did quite a deal of research about this drug several months ago; posted my findings on my blog http://margihealing.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/veracity-an-anti-viral-and-the-pand\ emic/. The side-effects are well-documented, and are no secret. I still don't understand why something which is well-documented to have side-effects as significant as influenza itself, and which is also documented by Roche - the maker - to have those neuro-psychiatric effects, is so aggressively promoted by allopaths who live and breathe EBM [ Evidence Based Medicine ]. It borders on the bizarre! Yes, the product does have its origins in one of the phytochemicals - an acid I think - found in star anise, but it goes through a number of chemical processes to get it to the state it is in " Tamiflu " . 20 steps from memory; phosphorylation etc etc [any chemists out there?] TCM it aint. But a harbinger of things to come, as " big pharma " selectively sources single molecules from the multitudes made by plants... distorts them, and makes them into something else, devoid of synergy, co-factors etc Margi Macdonald _______________ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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