bloodletting & cupping for ....

August 26, 2009

Please differentiate how the bloodletting is more or less effective than others,

eg regular needling.

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Re: bloodletting & cupping for insect bites

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Friday, August 7, 2009, 10:46 AM

someone sent a link to an md's site who is doing electric shock therapy on

bites. i thought it was a radical approach. perhaps this is where the idea

germinated from.

kath

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:35 PM, mystir <ykcul_ritsym@ > wrote:

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> Hi. I also have seen and tried this: native people take a spark plug wire

> from a car or another internal combustion engine, like a lawn mower or

> tractor, turn the engine, and let the spark ground, arc, on the bite area.

> Very effective in recent venomous attacks.

> If days pass then the venom is too diffuse so bleed and medicate herbally.

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> Thursday, July 30, 2009, 9:35 PM

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> i'm researching tx for a patient coming tomorrow for a brn recluse spider

>

> bite. bite happened a week+ ago. doc put her on AB. she's reporting

>

> arthralgias and worsening necrotic, blk tissue at the bite site. (haven't

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> seen her yet: this is info from our initial phone conversation today).

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> some of the derm books i'm referencing are suggesting bloodletting and

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> cupping, which i'm inclined to do.

>

> any comments about this approach?

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> k

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August 28, 2009

I'd love to hear someone more expert than me reply, as this approach is little

more than a 'where there is no doctor' method, actually, a 'where there is no

antivenom'. These days the 'cut between the fangs and suction poison out' tx is

regarded as having little value, as are most of the old-time measures. I agree

unless it is done IMMEDIATELY after bite, then it may help some. Traditional

pts are bleeding bafeng and baxie. Cover with clay cooked painted toad, or baked

clay. - Not something most people carry. So, when skin turns bruised or later

rancid, seven star needling and cupping 'may' help, compared to nothing. (This

is also poison measures.) The spark plug type tx is done surrounding the area

and moving inwards, sometimes it can I guess nuetralize the toxins. But this is

last ditch heroic stuff. Best to let person be inert and get to a clinic if

possible.

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Steve Segal <stevsgl wrote:

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Re: bloodletting & cupping for ....