Guest guest Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Hi all - I have a patient with severe muscle and nerve pain from 12 years ago. I did indirect moxa on him before, during and after treatment and he loved it, said it really helped. I'd send him home with a moxa stick, but the pain is in his neck (injury to C3 - C7, cadaver bone implanted 10 years ago to stabilize the vertebrae) and refers to both scapulae. He lives alone, so he can't self-administer. Any suggestions for something he can use himself? It would be great if it were as nourishing as moxa (he's too poor to buy much food, he has diabetes, COPD and a thyroid condition, and he's completely dependent on others to drive him anywhere - I know, kind of a train wreck). I'd be ecstatic to find something that interrupted the pain so that I could focus on, you know, a few other things... thanks! karen Karen R. Adams, Lic Ac, Dipl Ac 25 - 27 Bank Row Greenfield, MA 01301 413-768-8333 Do or do not. There is no try. Yoda, The Empire Strikes Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Tens? Hypnotism? - " turusachan " <turusachan <Chinese Medicine > Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:42 PM moxa substitute > Hi all - I have a patient with severe muscle and nerve pain from 12 years > ago. I did indirect moxa on him before, during and after treatment and he > loved it, said it really helped. I'd send him home with a moxa stick, but > the pain is in his neck (injury to C3 - C7, cadaver bone implanted 10 > years ago to stabilize the vertebrae) and refers to both scapulae. He > lives alone, so he can't self-administer. > > Any suggestions for something he can use himself? It would be great if it > were as nourishing as moxa (he's too poor to buy much food, he has > diabetes, COPD and a thyroid condition, and he's completely dependent on > others to drive him anywhere - I know, kind of a train wreck). I'd be > ecstatic to find something that interrupted the pain so that I could focus > on, you know, a few other things... > > thanks! > karen > > > > > Karen R. Adams, > Lic Ac, Dipl Ac > 25 - 27 Bank Row > Greenfield, MA 01301 > 413-768-8333 > > > > Do or do not. > There is no try. > Yoda, The Empire Strikes Back > > > > > > --- > > Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at Times > http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine > and acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia > > > and adjust > accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group > requires prior permission from the author. > > Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely > necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Heating oils, die da jiu (trauma wine), hot poultice compress. Hugo ________________________________ Hugo Ramiro http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org ________________________________ turusachan <turusachan Chinese Medicine Wednesday, 19 August, 2009 19:42:14 moxa substitute Hi all - I have a patient with severe muscle and nerve pain from 12 years ago. I did indirect moxa on him before, during and after treatment and he loved it, said it really helped. I'd send him home with a moxa stick, but the pain is in his neck (injury to C3 - C7, cadaver bone implanted 10 years ago to stabilize the vertebrae) and refers to both scapulae. He lives alone, so he can't self-administer. Any suggestions for something he can use himself? It would be great if it were as nourishing as moxa (he's too poor to buy much food, he has diabetes, COPD and a thyroid condition, and he's completely dependent on others to drive him anywhere - I know, kind of a train wreck). I'd be ecstatic to find something that interrupted the pain so that I could focus on, you know, a few other things... thanks! karen Karen R. Adams, Lic Ac, Dipl Ac 25 - 27 Bank Row Greenfield, MA 01301 413-768-8333 Do or do not. There is no try. Yoda, The Empire Strikes Back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Chinese Medicine , " turusachan " <turusachan wrote: >Hi, you can recommend to your patient to use castor oil pack. You can find information on how to do it on internet or look at http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/castoroiluses.html TG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Thanks to all of you who replied about moxa substitutes; I picked up some good hints. Unfortunately, none are usable by my patient, who has limited mobility and arm use. Even writing will bring on muscle spasms, so that pretty much leaves out poultices. He's trying to get his insurer to pay for some kind of very expensive heating pad, but found the moxa to penetrate more deeply (isn't that interesting?). Thanks everyone, for your help. k Karen R. Adams, Lic Ac, Dipl Ac 25 - 27 Bank Row Greenfield, MA 01301 413-768-8333 Do or do not. There is no try. Yoda, The Empire Strikes Back ________________________________ tgaid1 <tvgaid Chinese Medicine Friday, August 21, 2009 8:35:40 PM Re: moxa substitute Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine , " turusachan " <turusachan@ ...> wrote: >Hi, you can recommend to your patient to use castor oil pack. You can find information on how to do it on internet or look at http://www.annieapp leseedproject. org/castoroiluse s.html TG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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