Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I guess you didn't read the article properly. It's in China, completely different to USA. Attilio Chinese Medicine , " Mercurius Trismegistus " <magisterium_magnum wrote: > > That's impossible. The word " cure " can only be used to refer to successful > treatments based on drugs and surgery. In the US, at least... > > > > - > " " <attiliodalberto > <Chinese Medicine > > Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:30 PM > TCM cures H1N1 flu in Beijing > > > > Hi all, > > > > See: http://tinyurl.com/lbjtcz > > > > Regards, > > > > Attilio > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at Times > > http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine > > and acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia > > > > > > and adjust > > accordingly. > > > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group > > requires prior permission from the author. > > > > Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely > > necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 That's impossible. The word " cure " can only be used to refer to successful treatments based on drugs and surgery. In the US, at least... - " " <attiliodalberto <Chinese Medicine > Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:30 PM TCM cures H1N1 flu in Beijing > Hi all, > > See: http://tinyurl.com/lbjtcz > > Regards, > > Attilio > > > > --- > > Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at Times > http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine > and acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia > > > and adjust > accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group > requires prior permission from the author. > > Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely > necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 H1N1 is just a flu and it is no major differences from any other flu as far as herbal treatment methods are concerned. Any decent Chinese medicine doctors should treat it promptly. Seems to me most of our group memebers focus upon acu. treatment and won't see flu patients, it does not make differences to us. By the way, the first Tamiflu failure case has been reported in Netherlands and the second one was reported today. It indicates one edge of Chinese medicine over western medicine when it comes to pandemic. SUNG, Yuk-ming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Dear group, I feel like deliberating more about my last post because there are geographical differences that our tcm students may not be familiar with. In Hong Kong(or China), herbal shop doctors prescribe herbals only and all patients are walk-ins. My estimate that 50 to 60% patients seek treatment of the exterior, cold and influ. Others are residing symptoms like residual phlegm after taking western medication. Therefore, it is common that we see anywhere 5 to 10 flu patients per day. As swine flu pandemic has already broken out in the city (over 50 cases reported daily). We deal with these potential H1N1-infected patients everyday. Since we CM doctors have no way to tell if they are H1N1-infected, we treat them according to any other flu. Although the pandemic is highly contagious, it is not lethal. Hope that ease some doubts about this post. SUNG, Yuk-ming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 I just (most likely) had the h1n1 flu. Have not been tested but had a high fever first time in 30 years just as h1n1 hit the bay area. The majority of the flu cases 3-4 weeks ago in the bay were the swine flu according to kaiser. I responded quite well to herbs and was back at work in three days. That said i have also seen several patients that had done only NSAIDs and have done well as well. At least the version that hit the bay area is not that severe for most adults. 400 29th St. Suite 419 Oakland Ca 94609 alonmarcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Good for you, Mr Marcus. We all understand that Chinese medicine can fix the flu symptoms and the flu itself. I think it is the opportunity to educate the general public about what Chinese medicine can do. On the other hand, this type A H1N1 is a bit different. As there are the mixture of both avian and swine genes from Asia and America, it will become a bit scary after mutations and it is happening. Another fact is it is the first reported case of Tamiflu-resistence in Hong Kong (the 2nd one worldwide, after Danmark). The case involves a 18-year-old female flying from San Francisco. Her symptom was mild and she did not complete her treatment in the hospital. It was only found out by lab test after she left the hospital. We understand it is the political reason why it is not widely reported of the resistence issue. I don't expect everyone will wear a mouth mask in SF or any city in the world unless a huge outbreak of pandemic occurs. Afterall, there are almost no causalties reported (any flu will claim a few lives). The least we can do is to educate our patients to take proper precautions, esp. those susceptible. Isn't that the principle from ZHANG, Zhong-jing, treating the disease before they manifest? SUNG, Yuk-ming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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