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On Mar 14, 2004, at 9:11 AM, mike schulting wrote:

 

> is there anybody in seattle specializing in kidney

> disease? I am looking for a referral for a patient

> with kidney failure.

> Thanks,

> Mike

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Hi Mike,

 

We have worked with Kidney Failure [definitely a harder subject] and have

had decent results. We practice TCM focusing only on raw herbal formulas.

You can write (or call) me on my personal email address if you wish to take

this further.

 

Good luck.

 

David Akrish

Heaven and Earth CMHC

White Snake Choy Li Fut & Tai Chi Chuan

2100 E. Union Street suite-B

Seattle, WA 98122

206-320-1041

akrish

 

mike schulting [schulting]

Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:11 AM

 

referral in seattle

 

is there anybody in seattle specializing in kidney

disease? I am looking for a referral for a patient

with kidney failure.

Thanks,

Mike

 

 

 

Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam

 

 

 

 

Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including

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discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine.

 

 

 

 

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I client of mine is looking for a TCM practitioner in Seattle with a few years

of experience for her daughter. The daughter has migraines and severe

dysmenorrhea. If you are interested in being contacted by her, please send me an

email to the address below

 

Regards,

Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D.

 

angelapfa

 

www.InnerhealthSalem.com

 

Phone: 503 364 3022

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Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D.

Chinese Medicine

Monday, June 29, 2009 11:21 AM

Re: Referral in Boise

 

 

 

 

 

I am looking to refer 2 female clients to acupuncturists in Boise. One seeks

treatment for post-concussion syndrome, and the other has a medication

intolerance and high blood pressure and a number of emotional issues, anxiety,

night terrors, etc. If you are interested in working with one or both of them,

please contact me at the address below. the clients are self-pay parties.

 

Regards,

Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D.

 

angelapfa

 

www.InnerhealthSalem.com

 

Phone: 503 364 3022

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Chinese Medicine

Saturday, June 27, 2009 4:42 PM

RE: anti-inflammatory

 

Yes... I think that pretty much any type of therapy can be anti-inflammatory

if it correct for the person / pattern. In addition, I could see how many

types of therapy, including acupuncture, could be pro-inflammatory. What are

your thoughts?

 

-

 

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of mike

Bowser

Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:49 PM

Chinese Traditional Medicine

RE: anti-inflammatory

 

Interesting but acupuncture has also been shown to be anti-inflammatory.

 

Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc

Chinese Medicine

Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:35:10 -0600

RE: anti-inflammatory

 

IMHO, saying an herb is anti-inflammatory is not that helpful.

 

1) Inflammation has many aspects and pathways (in western / functional

 

medicine). Essentially anything that corrects the body's imbalances can be

 

anti-inflammatory. For example, something that corrects Spleen qi deficiency

 

can easily stop a inflammatory cascade.

 

2) We should not forget that inflammation can be either hot or cold

 

from a CM perspective. Quite simply, when discussing inflammation, we cannot

 

reduce it to just the typical red, swollen, hot etc. Internal inflammation,

 

from a western / functional medical perspective, is a much more complex

 

beast that includes many systems of the body.

 

I would though like to hear what others think about this issue.

 

Hope this helps,

 

-

 

Chinese Medicine

 

Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Ariel

 

Solomon, L.Ac.

 

Friday, June 26, 2009 4:07 PM

 

Chinese Medicine

 

Re: anti-inflammatory

 

My source: various sources that list pharmacological data on chinese

 

herbs on the internet. Gan cao, shu di, ze xie, sheng di, shan yao and

 

yin chen hao, among others, all list " anti-inflammatory " as western

 

properties. Gan cao and shan yao are said to have properties similar to

 

cortisone according to a few websites.

 

I obviously didn't look up every tonic herb... I just thought that it

 

was interesting that some tonic herbs have anti-inflammatory properties

 

since I was sort of assuming that only moving or heavy duty heat

 

clearing herbs would have such properties.

 

I'm just trying to put what I know about herbs in the TCM sense into a

 

Western context- not always so easy!

 

I told my patient not to take any herbs. We will do extra acupuncture

 

to try and get back to where we were.

 

. wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> On what sources do you base your assertion that 'nourishing' herbs are

 

> anti-inflammatory? That's a pretty broad generalization . . .

 

>

 

>

 

> On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Ariel Solomon, L.Ac. wrote:

 

>

 

>>

 

>>

 

>> Well, now I looked up the pharmacological effects of some of the

 

>> herbs,

 

>> and it seems like many nourishing herbs are anti-inflammatory!

 

>>

 

>> I guess maybe I should just go with no herbs for now unless anyone has

 

>> any great ideas.

 

>>

 

>> Thanks,

 

>> Ariel

 

>>

 

>> Ariel Solomon, L.Ac. wrote:

 

>>>

 

>>>

 

>>> I have a patient who is getting a series of injections in her hip to

 

>>> promote the healing of a ligament. Apparently, she can not take

 

>>> anything that is anti-inflammatory while she is having this

 

>> treatment.

 

>>> I am treating her primarily for Raynaud's and fibromyalgia like

 

>>> symptoms. I have been using herbs to move liver qi/ blood, nourish

 

>>> liver blood/ yin and support spleen function. I switched her to a

 

>> more

 

>>> nourishing formula with no moving herbs because I was concerned

 

>> that the

 

>>> moving herbs could have anti-inflammatory properties.

 

>> Unfortunately a

 

>>> lot of her symptoms are coming back now- she really needs that

 

>> liver qi

 

>>> moved!

 

>>>

 

>>> I am wondering if moving herbs are actually anti-inflammatory at

 

>> all. I

 

>>> know that they promote healing and reduce inflammation, but I

 

>> think they

 

>>> probably do this in a very different way than NSAIDS. As I

 

>> understand

 

>>> it, NSAIDS stop the inflammatory process all together. I would think

 

>>> moving herbs would just speed up the healing process as opposed to

 

>>> stopping the inflammatory process, which shouldn't conflict with

 

>> her hip

 

>>> treatment.

 

>>>

 

>>> Any thoughts? Do any herbs have straight out anti-inflammatory

 

>>> properties. Do you think it is safe to use herbs like chai hu, chuan

 

>>> lian zi, dan shen, xiang fu, yin chen hao, zhi mu...?

 

>>>

 

>>> Ariel

 

>>>

 

>>>

 

>>

 

>>

 

>>

 

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> Pacific College of Oriental Medicine

 

> San Diego, Ca. 92122

 

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Seattle is an interestingly spread-out town due to the layout of Puget Sound. I

can wholeheartedly recommend a fabulous practitioner in Poulsbo, Washington who

has a remarkable track record with pain conditions like Migraines: Bob Doane.

The url for the practice website is http://www.acupuncturewellness.net.

 

Mark Zaranski

East Wind Acupuncture, Inc.

Chesterton, Indiana

www.ewacupuncture.com

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Angela Pfaffenberger,

PH.D. " <angelapfa wrote:

>

> I client of mine is looking for a TCM practitioner in Seattle with a few years

of experience for her daughter. The daughter has migraines and severe

dysmenorrhea. If you are interested in being contacted by her, please send me an

email to the address below

>

> Regards,

> Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D.

>

> angelapfa

>

> www.InnerhealthSalem.com

>

> Phone: 503 364 3022

> -

> Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D.

> Chinese Medicine

> Monday, June 29, 2009 11:21 AM

> Re: Referral in Boise

>

>

>

>

>

> I am looking to refer 2 female clients to acupuncturists in Boise. One seeks

treatment for post-concussion syndrome, and the other has a medication

intolerance and high blood pressure and a number of emotional issues, anxiety,

night terrors, etc. If you are interested in working with one or both of them,

please contact me at the address below. the clients are self-pay parties.

>

> Regards,

> Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D.

>

> angelapfa

>

> www.InnerhealthSalem.com

>

> Phone: 503 364 3022

> -

>

> Chinese Medicine

> Saturday, June 27, 2009 4:42 PM

> RE: anti-inflammatory

>

> Yes... I think that pretty much any type of therapy can be anti-inflammatory

> if it correct for the person / pattern. In addition, I could see how many

> types of therapy, including acupuncture, could be pro-inflammatory. What are

> your thoughts?

>

> -

>

>

> Chinese Medicine

> Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of mike

> Bowser

> Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:49 PM

> Chinese Traditional Medicine

> RE: anti-inflammatory

>

> Interesting but acupuncture has also been shown to be anti-inflammatory.

>

> Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc

> Chinese Medicine

>

> Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:35:10 -0600

> RE: anti-inflammatory

>

> IMHO, saying an herb is anti-inflammatory is not that helpful.

>

> 1) Inflammation has many aspects and pathways (in western / functional

>

> medicine). Essentially anything that corrects the body's imbalances can be

>

> anti-inflammatory. For example, something that corrects Spleen qi deficiency

>

> can easily stop a inflammatory cascade.

>

> 2) We should not forget that inflammation can be either hot or cold

>

> from a CM perspective. Quite simply, when discussing inflammation, we cannot

>

> reduce it to just the typical red, swollen, hot etc. Internal inflammation,

>

> from a western / functional medical perspective, is a much more complex

>

> beast that includes many systems of the body.

>

> I would though like to hear what others think about this issue.

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> -

>

> Chinese Medicine

>

> Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Ariel

>

> Solomon, L.Ac.

>

> Friday, June 26, 2009 4:07 PM

>

> Chinese Medicine

>

> Re: anti-inflammatory

>

> My source: various sources that list pharmacological data on chinese

>

> herbs on the internet. Gan cao, shu di, ze xie, sheng di, shan yao and

>

> yin chen hao, among others, all list " anti-inflammatory " as western

>

> properties. Gan cao and shan yao are said to have properties similar to

>

> cortisone according to a few websites.

>

> I obviously didn't look up every tonic herb... I just thought that it

>

> was interesting that some tonic herbs have anti-inflammatory properties

>

> since I was sort of assuming that only moving or heavy duty heat

>

> clearing herbs would have such properties.

>

> I'm just trying to put what I know about herbs in the TCM sense into a

>

> Western context- not always so easy!

>

> I told my patient not to take any herbs. We will do extra acupuncture

>

> to try and get back to where we were.

>

> . wrote:

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > On what sources do you base your assertion that 'nourishing' herbs are

>

> > anti-inflammatory? That's a pretty broad generalization . . .

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Ariel Solomon, L.Ac. wrote:

>

> >

>

> >>

>

> >>

>

> >> Well, now I looked up the pharmacological effects of some of the

>

> >> herbs,

>

> >> and it seems like many nourishing herbs are anti-inflammatory!

>

> >>

>

> >> I guess maybe I should just go with no herbs for now unless anyone has

>

> >> any great ideas.

>

> >>

>

> >> Thanks,

>

> >> Ariel

>

> >>

>

> >> Ariel Solomon, L.Ac. wrote:

>

> >>>

>

> >>>

>

> >>> I have a patient who is getting a series of injections in her hip to

>

> >>> promote the healing of a ligament. Apparently, she can not take

>

> >>> anything that is anti-inflammatory while she is having this

>

> >> treatment.

>

> >>> I am treating her primarily for Raynaud's and fibromyalgia like

>

> >>> symptoms. I have been using herbs to move liver qi/ blood, nourish

>

> >>> liver blood/ yin and support spleen function. I switched her to a

>

> >> more

>

> >>> nourishing formula with no moving herbs because I was concerned

>

> >> that the

>

> >>> moving herbs could have anti-inflammatory properties.

>

> >> Unfortunately a

>

> >>> lot of her symptoms are coming back now- she really needs that

>

> >> liver qi

>

> >>> moved!

>

> >>>

>

> >>> I am wondering if moving herbs are actually anti-inflammatory at

>

> >> all. I

>

> >>> know that they promote healing and reduce inflammation, but I

>

> >> think they

>

> >>> probably do this in a very different way than NSAIDS. As I

>

> >> understand

>

> >>> it, NSAIDS stop the inflammatory process all together. I would think

>

> >>> moving herbs would just speed up the healing process as opposed to

>

> >>> stopping the inflammatory process, which shouldn't conflict with

>

> >> her hip

>

> >>> treatment.

>

> >>>

>

> >>> Any thoughts? Do any herbs have straight out anti-inflammatory

>

> >>> properties. Do you think it is safe to use herbs like chai hu, chuan

>

> >>> lian zi, dan shen, xiang fu, yin chen hao, zhi mu...?

>

> >>>

>

> >>> Ariel

>

> >>>

>

> >>>

>

> >>

>

> >>

>

> >>

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine

>

> > Pacific College of Oriental Medicine

>

> > San Diego, Ca. 92122

>

> >

>

> >

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