Guest guest Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I am looking to refer 2 female clients to acupuncturists in Boise. One seeks treatment for post-concussion syndrome, and the other has a medication intolerance and high blood pressure and a number of emotional issues, anxiety, night terrors, etc. If you are interested in working with one or both of them, please contact me at the address below. the clients are self-pay parties. Regards, Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. angelapfa www.InnerhealthSalem.com Phone: 503 364 3022 - Chinese Medicine Saturday, June 27, 2009 4:42 PM RE: anti-inflammatory Yes... I think that pretty much any type of therapy can be anti-inflammatory if it correct for the person / pattern. In addition, I could see how many types of therapy, including acupuncture, could be pro-inflammatory. What are your thoughts? - Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of mike Bowser Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:49 PM Chinese Traditional Medicine RE: anti-inflammatory Interesting but acupuncture has also been shown to be anti-inflammatory. Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:35:10 -0600 RE: anti-inflammatory IMHO, saying an herb is anti-inflammatory is not that helpful. 1) Inflammation has many aspects and pathways (in western / functional medicine). Essentially anything that corrects the body's imbalances can be anti-inflammatory. For example, something that corrects Spleen qi deficiency can easily stop a inflammatory cascade. 2) We should not forget that inflammation can be either hot or cold from a CM perspective. Quite simply, when discussing inflammation, we cannot reduce it to just the typical red, swollen, hot etc. Internal inflammation, from a western / functional medical perspective, is a much more complex beast that includes many systems of the body. I would though like to hear what others think about this issue. Hope this helps, - Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Ariel Solomon, L.Ac. Friday, June 26, 2009 4:07 PM Chinese Medicine Re: anti-inflammatory My source: various sources that list pharmacological data on chinese herbs on the internet. Gan cao, shu di, ze xie, sheng di, shan yao and yin chen hao, among others, all list " anti-inflammatory " as western properties. Gan cao and shan yao are said to have properties similar to cortisone according to a few websites. I obviously didn't look up every tonic herb... I just thought that it was interesting that some tonic herbs have anti-inflammatory properties since I was sort of assuming that only moving or heavy duty heat clearing herbs would have such properties. I'm just trying to put what I know about herbs in the TCM sense into a Western context- not always so easy! I told my patient not to take any herbs. We will do extra acupuncture to try and get back to where we were. . wrote: > > > On what sources do you base your assertion that 'nourishing' herbs are > anti-inflammatory? That's a pretty broad generalization . . . > > > On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Ariel Solomon, L.Ac. wrote: > >> >> >> Well, now I looked up the pharmacological effects of some of the >> herbs, >> and it seems like many nourishing herbs are anti-inflammatory! >> >> I guess maybe I should just go with no herbs for now unless anyone has >> any great ideas. >> >> Thanks, >> Ariel >> >> Ariel Solomon, L.Ac. wrote: >>> >>> >>> I have a patient who is getting a series of injections in her hip to >>> promote the healing of a ligament. Apparently, she can not take >>> anything that is anti-inflammatory while she is having this >> treatment. >>> I am treating her primarily for Raynaud's and fibromyalgia like >>> symptoms. I have been using herbs to move liver qi/ blood, nourish >>> liver blood/ yin and support spleen function. I switched her to a >> more >>> nourishing formula with no moving herbs because I was concerned >> that the >>> moving herbs could have anti-inflammatory properties. >> Unfortunately a >>> lot of her symptoms are coming back now- she really needs that >> liver qi >>> moved! >>> >>> I am wondering if moving herbs are actually anti-inflammatory at >> all. I >>> know that they promote healing and reduce inflammation, but I >> think they >>> probably do this in a very different way than NSAIDS. As I >> understand >>> it, NSAIDS stop the inflammatory process all together. I would think >>> moving herbs would just speed up the healing process as opposed to >>> stopping the inflammatory process, which shouldn't conflict with >> her hip >>> treatment. >>> >>> Any thoughts? Do any herbs have straight out anti-inflammatory >>> properties. Do you think it is safe to use herbs like chai hu, chuan >>> lian zi, dan shen, xiang fu, yin chen hao, zhi mu...? >>> >>> Ariel >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > Chair, Department of Herbal Medicine > Pacific College of Oriental Medicine > San Diego, Ca. 92122 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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