Lithium Orotate (WAS why do acidic foods increase smoking cravings?)

[Guest guest]

Lithium (orotate) is a natural trace element (found in simple things like

tomatoes...and apparently cigs, ug). It is only a prescription substance in

super-mega large doses used to treat some severe mental illnesses.

 

In fact, lithium can be used in supplemental form in small doses (no

prescription necessary).

 

Current research is showing that lithium orotate is a neuroprotective agent

- among other things, it has been shown to increase brain cells in the grey

matter (and this in people over the age of 55!) and it has also been shown

to protect neurons against glutamate toxicity...pretty provocative research,

imho. And, in higher doses (I'm not clear on what that dose range is right

off the top of my head) some early research is indicating that it can slow

or stop ALS.

 

The natural form is being used for things like alzheimers, memory loss,

depression, anxiety and for people with genetic dispositions to alcohol

addiction.

 

Natural Lithium (orotate) - typical supplemental dose is 5mg qd/bid.

 

Prescription Lithium (carbonate) - a 300mg capsule contains approx 55mg of

lithium and dosing is usually around 1-2caps, tid - so, 165-300mg of

lithium...this is significantly more than is used as a trace element and

patients should be monitored by a prescribing physician.

 

Lithium toxicity can occur in patients who are taking prescription lithium

at the maximum doses (and/or who abuse the OTC versions) leading to kidney

damage, HBP, and GI disturbances. Dr. David Horrobin uses a protocol of

using EFA's to stop lithium toxicity. This has lead to some recommendations

that when using natural lithium (orotate) supplement, patients should also

be taking EFA's (flax oil, walnut oil or fish oils).

 

J

 

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:55 AM,

wrote:

 

> yehuda:

>

> wow, i did not know lithium was in cigs. wondering how are the tobacco cos

> allow to put in this prescription substance?

>

> k

>

>

________

Joy Keller, LAc, Dipl.OM

Ramona Acupuncture & Integrative Medicine Clinic

Phone: (760) 654-1040 Fax: (760) 654-4019

www.RamonaAcupuncture.com

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

typical Western heroic medicine using an elephant to kill a fly, (and everything

else in its path as well), and living by the adage that if a little is good alot

is better.   In reality it would seem to me that therapeutic doses of healing

substances should never have any side effects. 

 

Then there is the other angle that there are so many wonderful foods and plants

that contain balanced substances which individually may have toxicity or side

effects, but in their food form are not only benign, but very balancing and

healing.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, Joy Keller <JKellerLAc wrote:

 

 

Joy Keller <JKellerLAc

Lithium Orotate (WAS Re: why do acidic foods increase smoking

cravings?)

Chinese Medicine

Friday, June 19, 2009, 2:05 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lithium (orotate) is a natural trace element (found in simple things like

tomatoes...and apparently cigs, ug). It is only a prescription substance in

super-mega large doses used to treat some severe mental illnesses.

 

In fact, lithium can be used in supplemental form in small doses (no

prescription necessary).

 

Current research is showing that lithium orotate is a neuroprotective agent

- among other things, it has been shown to increase brain cells in the grey

matter (and this in people over the age of 55!) and it has also been shown

to protect neurons against glutamate toxicity...pretty provocative research,

imho. And, in higher doses (I'm not clear on what that dose range is right

off the top of my head) some early research is indicating that it can slow

or stop ALS.

 

The natural form is being used for things like alzheimers, memory loss,

depression, anxiety and for people with genetic dispositions to alcohol

addiction.

 

Natural Lithium (orotate) - typical supplemental dose is 5mg qd/bid.

 

Prescription Lithium (carbonate) - a 300mg capsule contains approx 55mg of

lithium and dosing is usually around 1-2caps, tid - so, 165-300mg of

lithium...this is significantly more than is used as a trace element and

patients should be monitored by a prescribing physician.

 

Lithium toxicity can occur in patients who are taking prescription lithium

at the maximum doses (and/or who abuse the OTC versions) leading to kidney

damage, HBP, and GI disturbances. Dr. David Horrobin uses a protocol of

using EFA's to stop lithium toxicity. This has lead to some recommendations

that when using natural lithium (orotate) supplement, patients should also

be taking EFA's (flax oil, walnut oil or fish oils).

 

J

 

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:55 AM,

<acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com>wrote:

 

> yehuda:

>

> wow, i did not know lithium was in cigs. wondering how are the tobacco cos

> allow to put in this prescription substance?

>

> k

>

>

____________ _________ _________ _________ ___

Joy Keller, LAc, Dipl.OM

Ramona Acupuncture & Integrative Medicine Clinic

Phone: (760) 654-1040 Fax: (760) 654-4019

www.RamonaAcupunctu re.com

 

 

[Guest guest]

I'm assuming your comment is referring to the very large doses used in

prescriptive medicine.

 

I think research is supporting that small amounts of the natural trace

element are showing to be therapeutic and healing.

 

J

 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:38 PM, wrote:

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[Guest guest]

Absolutely.  But what I was adding is that in their natural form and in a

complex with others naturally co-occuring, rather than isolated in  chemical

form, trace minerals are generally safer, more metabolically functional and more

balancing. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, Joy Keller <JKellerLAc wrote:

 

 

Joy Keller <JKellerLAc

Re: Lithium Orotate (WAS Re: why do acidic foods increase smoking

cravings?)

Chinese Medicine

Friday, June 19, 2009, 3:10 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm assuming your comment is referring to the very large doses used in

prescriptive medicine.

 

I think research is supporting that small amounts of the natural trace

element are showing to be therapeutic and healing.

 

J

 

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:38 PM, >wrote:

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