Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I'd really appreciate some advice on this case. The guy came in about 10 weeks ago, about 40, overweight, had damp heat symptoms, his sperm count is low, he has difficulties maintaining an erection, has little sexual interest, his wife wants to conceive, he is unmotivated to lose any weight. I saw him for about 10 weeks, basically I dispersed the damp heat, his tongue cleared up, and his sperm count has increased very dramatically, but the sperm mobility is unchanged, too low, and his performance isn't improved; he achieves an erection but cannot maintain it.. Does anyone have experience with this? I have basically mixed temperature neutral " male tonics " such as yin yang huo, and sha yuan zi,, with heat clearing herbs, but I don't know how to improve sperm mobility. His pulse is slippery, his tongue a bit too red but not coated any more. He doesn't report any fatigue, but seems to have a cranky disposition. Regards, Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. angelapfa www.InnerhealthSalem.com Phone: 503 364 3022 - William Morse, D.C., FIACA Chinese Medicine Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:29 PM thanks for the shingles help! And Mercurius, we are all students of this fascinating and effective medicine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Is he on any medications that might affect an erection? Have you examined his thighs for signs of tension and blockage as this will impact the blood flow through the area? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine angelapfa Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:29:54 -0700 Re: TCM -Male infertility I'd really appreciate some advice on this case. The guy came in about 10 weeks ago, about 40, overweight, had damp heat symptoms, his sperm count is low, he has difficulties maintaining an erection, has little sexual interest, his wife wants to conceive, he is unmotivated to lose any weight. I saw him for about 10 weeks, basically I dispersed the damp heat, his tongue cleared up, and his sperm count has increased very dramatically, but the sperm mobility is unchanged, too low, and his performance isn't improved; he achieves an erection but cannot maintain it.. Does anyone have experience with this? I have basically mixed temperature neutral " male tonics " such as yin yang huo, and sha yuan zi,, with heat clearing herbs, but I don't know how to improve sperm mobility. His pulse is slippery, his tongue a bit too red but not coated any more. He doesn't report any fatigue, but seems to have a cranky disposition. Regards, Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. angelapfa www.InnerhealthSalem.com Phone: 503 364 3022 - William Morse, D.C., FIACA Chinese Medicine Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:29 PM thanks for the shingles help! And Mercurius, we are all students of this fascinating and effective medicine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Is he interested in women? - " mike Bowser " <naturaldoc1 <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Tuesday, June 09, 2009 6:40 PM RE: Re: TCM -Male infertility Is he on any medications that might affect an erection? Have you examined his thighs for signs of tension and blockage as this will impact the blood flow through the area? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine angelapfa Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:29:54 -0700 Re: TCM -Male infertility I'd really appreciate some advice on this case. The guy came in about 10 weeks ago, about 40, overweight, had damp heat symptoms, his sperm count is low, he has difficulties maintaining an erection, has little sexual interest, his wife wants to conceive, he is unmotivated to lose any weight. I saw him for about 10 weeks, basically I dispersed the damp heat, his tongue cleared up, and his sperm count has increased very dramatically, but the sperm mobility is unchanged, too low, and his performance isn't improved; he achieves an erection but cannot maintain it.. Does anyone have experience with this? I have basically mixed temperature neutral " male tonics " such as yin yang huo, and sha yuan zi,, with heat clearing herbs, but I don't know how to improve sperm mobility. His pulse is slippery, his tongue a bit too red but not coated any more. He doesn't report any fatigue, but seems to have a cranky disposition. Regards, Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. angelapfa www.InnerhealthSalem.com Phone: 503 364 3022 - William Morse, D.C., FIACA Chinese Medicine Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:29 PM thanks for the shingles help! And Mercurius, we are all students of this fascinating and effective medicine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Give him Shou Wu Chih (the non-alcoholic one), 3x per day, 1oz each time. Should start seeing good results in 1 mo or less. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:40 PM, mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote: Is he on any medications that might affect an erection? Have you examined his thighs for signs of tension and blockage as this will impact the blood flow through the area? Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc Chinese Medicine angelapfa Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:29:54 -0700 Re: TCM -Male infertility I'd really appreciate some advice on this case. The guy came in about 10 weeks ago, about 40, overweight, had damp heat symptoms, his sperm count is low, he has difficulties maintaining an erection, has little sexual interest, his wife wants to conceive, he is unmotivated to lose any weight. I saw him for about 10 weeks, basically I dispersed the damp heat, his tongue cleared up, and his sperm count has increased very dramatically, but the sperm mobility is unchanged, too low, and his performance isn't improved; he achieves an erection but cannot maintain it.. Does anyone have experience with this? I have basically mixed temperature neutral " male tonics " such as yin yang huo, and sha yuan zi,, with heat clearing herbs, but I don't know how to improve sperm mobility. His pulse is slippery, his tongue a bit too red but not coated any more. He doesn't report any fatigue, but seems to have a cranky disposition. Regards, Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. angelapfa www.InnerhealthSalem.com Phone: 503 364 3022 - William Morse, D.C., FIACA Chinese Medicine Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:29 PM thanks for the shingles help! And Mercurius, we are all students of this fascinating and effective medicine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Angela, Does this guy want the pregnancy? Regards, Thomas Does this ons, 10 06 2009 kl. 01:40 +0000, skrev mike Bowser: > > > > Is he on any medications that might affect an erection? Have you > examined his thighs for signs of tension and blockage as this will > impact the blood flow through the area? > > Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc > Chinese Medicine > angelapfa > Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:29:54 -0700 > Re: TCM -Male infertility > > I'd really appreciate some advice on this case. The guy came in about > 10 weeks ago, about 40, overweight, had damp heat symptoms, his sperm > count is low, he has difficulties maintaining an erection, has little > sexual interest, his wife wants to conceive, he is unmotivated to lose > any weight. I saw him for about 10 weeks, basically I dispersed the > damp heat, his tongue cleared up, and his sperm count has increased > very dramatically, but the sperm mobility is unchanged, too low, and > his performance isn't improved; he achieves an erection but cannot > maintain it.. Does anyone have experience with this? I have basically > mixed temperature neutral " male tonics " such as yin yang huo, and sha > yuan zi,, with heat clearing herbs, but I don't know how to improve > sperm mobility. His pulse is slippery, his tongue a bit too red but > not coated any more. He doesn't report any fatigue, but seems to have > a cranky disposition. > > Regards, > > Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. > > angelapfa > > www.InnerhealthSalem.com > > Phone: 503 364 3022 > > - > > William Morse, D.C., FIACA > > Chinese Medicine > > Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:29 PM > > thanks for the shingles help! > > And Mercurius, we are all students of this fascinating and effective > medicine! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Angela, I had a patient who had sperm motility of 35% and after 3 months of herbs his motility was up to 80%. I don't recall his underlying condition, but i used Jane Lyttleton's book, Treatment of Infertility with as a guide. She has a chapter devoted to male infertility. I hope this helps. Respectfully, Douglas Knapp ________________________________ " Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. " <angelapfa Chinese Medicine Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:29:54 PM Re: TCM -Male infertility I'd really appreciate some advice on this case. The guy came in about 10 weeks ago, about 40, overweight, had damp heat symptoms, his sperm count is low, he has difficulties maintaining an erection, has little sexual interest, his wife wants to conceive, he is unmotivated to lose any weight. I saw him for about 10 weeks, basically I dispersed the damp heat, his tongue cleared up, and his sperm count has increased very dramatically, but the sperm mobility is unchanged, too low, and his performance isn't improved; he achieves an erection but cannot maintain it.. Does anyone have experience with this? I have basically mixed temperature neutral " male tonics " such as yin yang huo, and sha yuan zi,, with heat clearing herbs, but I don't know how to improve sperm mobility. His pulse is slippery, his tongue a bit too red but not coated any more. He doesn't report any fatigue, but seems to have a cranky disposition. Regards, Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. angelapfa (AT) comcast (DOT) net www.InnerhealthSale m.com Phone: 503 364 3022 - William Morse, D.C., FIACA Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:29 PM thanks for the shingles help! And Mercurius, we are all students of this fascinating and effective medicine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Thanks, Douglas that helps. I have relied on " Handbook of TCM Urology " and actually not found it helpful with actual client scenarios; I think it's a straight translation of a Chinese text, and it never fits my cases. Regards, Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. angelapfa www.InnerhealthSalem.com Phone: 503 364 3022 - Douglas Knapp Chinese Medicine Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:11 PM Re: Re: TCM -Male infertility Angela, I had a patient who had sperm motility of 35% and after 3 months of herbs his motility was up to 80%. I don't recall his underlying condition, but i used Jane Lyttleton's book, Treatment of Infertility with as a guide. She has a chapter devoted to male infertility. I hope this helps. Respectfully, Douglas Knapp ________________________________ " Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. " <angelapfa Chinese Medicine Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:29:54 PM Re: TCM -Male infertility I'd really appreciate some advice on this case. The guy came in about 10 weeks ago, about 40, overweight, had damp heat symptoms, his sperm count is low, he has difficulties maintaining an erection, has little sexual interest, his wife wants to conceive, he is unmotivated to lose any weight. I saw him for about 10 weeks, basically I dispersed the damp heat, his tongue cleared up, and his sperm count has increased very dramatically, but the sperm mobility is unchanged, too low, and his performance isn't improved; he achieves an erection but cannot maintain it.. Does anyone have experience with this? I have basically mixed temperature neutral " male tonics " such as yin yang huo, and sha yuan zi,, with heat clearing herbs, but I don't know how to improve sperm mobility. His pulse is slippery, his tongue a bit too red but not coated any more. He doesn't report any fatigue, but seems to have a cranky disposition. Regards, Angela Pfaffenberger, Ph.D. angelapfa (AT) comcast (DOT) net www.InnerhealthSale m.com Phone: 503 364 3022 - William Morse, D.C., FIACA Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:29 PM thanks for the shingles help! And Mercurius, we are all students of this fascinating and effective medicine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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