[PCOM Alumni] whooping cough resurgence

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Yes, I agree, there are definitely some vaccines that do wear off.

The boosters are evidence of that, but even they don't last forever

(eg, chicken pox), nor do most of them provide 100% immunity. I

doubt there's really dispute over those points even in the western

medical community, when you get down to the fine print...so many

claims are not based on the actual data. And not nearly enough is

known about many (most) of them, since many have yet to stand the

full test of time. How old is the pertussis vaccine. Some do seem

to " work " better than others, and I'm not sure why. Perhaps it is

about strain variability and ability to mutate (eg, the influenza

virus).

 

Thanks for the tip about Drossera! I have a 2 1/2 year old

unvaccinated son, and I'm not looking forward to pertussis. I'm not

sure if he will end up getting it or not, but I'd like to be

prepared. Do you have favorite formulas for pertussis? Obviously

pertussis is not a Chinese medical diagnosis, but I would think the

presentation would be fairly consistent considering the unique cough

(is there a term for that type of cough in CM?). I order herbs as-

needed, so I can't whip a prescription together. So I like to keep

on hand formulas for emergency situations.

 

Thanks-

Fiamma

 

Fiamma Sita Aaron, L.Ac., C.A., Dipl. O.M.

Acupuncturist & Practitioner of Traditional Oriental Medicine

105 North Third Avenue, Highland Park NJ 08904

732-979-8766

 

 

 

 

On May 29, 2009, at 6:50 PM, KSVaughan2 wrote:

 

> I have a friend with seven children. Part way through childbearing

> she decided that vaccinations were a bad thing for children so only

> four were vaccinated with the pertussis vaccine. They all caught

> whooping cough, vaccinated and nonvaccinated alike. The disease

> was easily stopped with penicillin, but the pediatrician turned her

> in and the State of Virginia tried to take away all of her

> children. (She ended up spiriting them out to friends where they

> stayed for three months until she won the legal proceedings.)

>

> But that means whooping cough vaccine doesn't even last through

> childhood.

>

> (FYI adding Sundew (Drossera) tincture from HerbPharm to the

> appropriate cough formula gets rid of whooping cough.)

>

> Measles doesn't last long either- there are many vaccinated college

> students coming down with it. But to have a vaccine that girls

> think of as " the safe sex vaccine " stop after five years is asking

> for trouble at all kinds of levels.

>

> Karen

>

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> In a message dated 5/29/2009 12:02:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> writes:

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I ran into a friend tonight who works at the local hospital. She

> told me she was recently diagnosed with whooping cough, and there

> have been a number of cases of it appearing in adults age 45 and

> older, across the country. The best theory on it, according to

> her, is that the vaccine that was given to most of us as children

> as a preventive, is wearing off. According to her, " no one knew

> how long the vaccine was supposed to offer protection, and we are

> now seeing cases in middle-aged people who had been vaccinated as

> children, and in children who have not been vaccinated for it. "

>

> This is the first I've heard of this, so I thought it might be news

> to you too. Anyone have any thoughts on how we can prepare

> ourselves and our patients? One question that comes to mind is

> whether the vaccine is really wearing off, or if the vaccine is

> acting as a sort of latent pathogen, coming back to haunt us 50

> years later...

>

> Thoughts, anyone?

>

> Andrea Beth

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