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Something just came to mind... not Chinese but nevertheless a usefulnatural

alternative.

Homeopathic vaccines exist! It is now coming back to my mind that my daughter

got homeopathic tetanus and polio. It's not mainstream but can be found. We

obtained it through a homeopathic MD, Dr. Hiltner, in Ojai, CA. He had lots of

research to back up his faith in this method of vaccination, and a lifetime of

success with his patients.

Genevieve.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The pills are given in a sequence over a week or so. The idea as i understand it

is that the vibrations from the virus remain present in the person throughout

their life and make it seem 'unnecessary' for the live virus to invade (sorry so

anthropomorphic)? In this case the principle is Like repels Like.

Not sure if this is purely vibrational or if there is an immune mediated

recognition, whether biologically or energetically triggered or other. I suppose

i should ask Dr. Hiltner :)

 

Nei Jing Chap.74:

" Sometimes when the cause of a condition is in opposite nature to the manifested

signs and symptoms, for instance, TaiYang/Cold invasion manifesting fevers, the

use of herbs with properties which may be alike to the manifestations sucha s

sweet, pungent, and hot would be called for. In this situation, the approach of

using like properties to cure a like manifested condition is called fan zhi,

homeopathic treatment "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Is there a danger of taking nosodes and vaccines concurrently?

(I've read this somewhere, but can't remember the exact reference)

There could be a severe reaction when taking one before the other.

 

K

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Genevieve Le Goff <

mellowmoonherbs wrote:

 

>

>

> Something just came to mind... not Chinese but nevertheless a usefulnatural

> alternative.

> Homeopathic vaccines exist! It is now coming back to my mind that my

> daughter got homeopathic tetanus and polio. It's not mainstream but can be

> found. We obtained it through a homeopathic MD, Dr. Hiltner, in Ojai, CA. He

> had lots of research to back up his faith in this method of vaccination, and

> a lifetime of success with his patients.

> Genevieve.

>

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There are at least three books that i know of that are very well written about

homeoprophalaxis. One is from Australia by a doctor whom has kept decades of

records on the success. One is from the UK I believe and the one here in the US,

Kate Birch's use of Homeopathy to treat infectious disease and the the use of

homeopathy instead of vaccines. One of her books, if purchased off of Dana

Ullmans site will also come with her CD of the lecture on this very subject she

delivered at one of our NCH meetings. Her book is priceless, her experience is

priceless, she wrote this book because the other she referred to written my an

MD from this country, was no longer in print.I refer to her book often and it

includes the remedies that were used successfully for a century of treating

rabies cases.

 

Kate is an active homeopath herself and understands both the superior damaging

effect of any vaccine as well as the best way to handle the xanthomatic diseases

in childhood that if the child is cruelly prevented from experiencing will never

have an immune system fully functional that reaches full frutition.I have to

apologize for my lack of understanding my those whom seem to get their

information from the propaganda put out by the very minions that profit from the

use of vaccines......two years of indepth research to back up the 25 years I hae

experiencing the reality of vaccine use has lead me to conclude, they never

understood what they were doing and most of the " success " that is spouted off is

clearly not scientifc but the worse case of junk science and propaganda and

media manipulation that you could ever believe a profession of supposedly heath

promotion could ever be found to be a part of, it is ASSUMPTIONS and PRECIDENCE

and NOT TRUTH. There is alot more going on about why we are in this predicament

of having the next to last health despite the most expensive health care system.

Being proactive is crucial in these times, and please, if you are going to

believe the CDC, look into the CDC own historical pages on how they got here and

what all they have done to the citiczens of the US.Take a gander down the myraid

of vaccine recalls that they bother to even let us know about on the FDA pages

and see.....Look for the two CENTURIES of proof that vaccines have NEVER been

the reason that any infectious disease was decreased, even JAMA has a study out

showing a slight increase in death rates once vaccines were utilized in

mass.Homeopathy has much research behind it and has been expressivley more

successful in threatment of epidemics. I for one, abhor the very use of western

medicine and stand on a very strong foundation for my posisiton, it is not based

on occassional reading of propaganda from our Federally funded

medicalphamaceuticalindustrial complex.

 

Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

 

 

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Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:58:43 -0700

homeopathic vaccines available

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Something just came to mind... not Chinese but nevertheless a usefulnatural

alternative.

Homeopathic vaccines exist! It is now coming back to my mind that my daughter

got homeopathic tetanus and polio. It's not mainstream but can be found. We

obtained it through a homeopathic MD, Dr. Hiltner, in Ojai, CA. He had lots of

research to back up his faith in this method of vaccination, and a lifetime of

success with his patients.

Genevieve.

 

 

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I don't know Kokko, i've never heard anything about that. But that does bring up

a few questions:

why would one do both concurrently ?

if you took the homeopathic version first and it was working, theoretically

there should't be a fight? (that is, on the theory that the mechanism is purely

vibrational and doesn't involve immune response... no research i know of on that

subject... anyone????...)

if you took both together, i could see that there might be a fight? but again i

think to answer that question more needs to be understood about how homeopathy

works, so one could envision the scenario when mingled to the vaccine induced

immune response.

Sorry no help

G.

 

--- On Sun, 4/26/09, <johnkokko wrote:

 

<johnkokko

Re: homeopathic vaccines available

Chinese Medicine

Sunday, April 26, 2009, 7:31 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is there a danger of taking nosodes and vaccines concurrently?

(I've read this somewhere, but can't remember the exact reference)

There could be a severe reaction when taking one before the other.

 

K

 

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Genevieve Le Goff <

mellowmoonherbs@ > wrote:

 

>

>

> Something just came to mind... not Chinese but nevertheless a usefulnatural

> alternative.

> Homeopathic vaccines exist! It is now coming back to my mind that my

> daughter got homeopathic tetanus and polio. It's not mainstream but can be

> found. We obtained it through a homeopathic MD, Dr. Hiltner, in Ojai, CA. He

> had lots of research to back up his faith in this method of vaccination, and

> a lifetime of success with his patients.

> Genevieve.

>

>

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Homeopathic vaccines are available,and have been since Hahnemann's original

work.  There are different philosophies and protocols, and all are beneficial,

but the method in question, of taking nosodes and western vaccines at the same

time is possible, although " aggravations " are possible.  One should probably

seek guidance from an experienced homeopath, but at very low potency, the

homeopathic will allow the body to absorb the vaccine " more efficiently " ,  while

a stronger potency MAY cause the body to reject the  vaccine and render the

whole exercise useless.

David

--- On Sun, 4/26/09, Genevieve Le Goff <mellowmoonherbs wrote:

 

Genevieve Le Goff <mellowmoonherbs

Re: homeopathic vaccines available

Chinese Medicine

Sunday, April 26, 2009, 12:23 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know Kokko, i've never heard anything about that. But that does bring up

a few questions:

why would one do both concurrently ?

if you took the homeopathic version first and it was working, theoretically

there should't be a fight? (that is, on the theory that the mechanism is purely

vibrational and doesn't involve immune response... no research i know of on that

subject... anyone????.. .)

if you took both together, i could see that there might be a fight? but again i

think to answer that question more needs to be understood about how homeopathy

works, so one could envision the scenario when mingled to the vaccine induced

immune response.

Sorry no help

G.

 

--- On Sun, 4/26/09, <johnkokko (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

<johnkokko (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: homeopathic vaccines available

 

Sunday, April 26, 2009, 7:31 AM

 

Is there a danger of taking nosodes and vaccines concurrently?

(I've read this somewhere, but can't remember the exact reference)

There could be a severe reaction when taking one before the other.

 

K

 

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Genevieve Le Goff <

mellowmoonherbs@ > wrote:

 

>

>

> Something just came to mind... not Chinese but nevertheless a usefulnatural

> alternative.

> Homeopathic vaccines exist! It is now coming back to my mind that my

> daughter got homeopathic tetanus and polio. It's not mainstream but can be

> found. We obtained it through a homeopathic MD, Dr. Hiltner, in Ojai, CA. He

> had lots of research to back up his faith in this method of vaccination, and

> a lifetime of success with his patients.

> Genevieve.

>

>

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I ask this question, because I remember reading a book warning of

combining vaccinations with homeopathic nosodes....

is dangerous to do one before the other (can't remember exactly which

one came first).

There could be an exacerbation of sx.

 

This came from a homeopath. Anyone know?

 

Why would people do both?

1. Because they don't trust one or both to work by itself

2. Because they aren't paying attention

 

 

On 4/26/09, David Tarlo <d1tarlo wrote:

> Homeopathic vaccines are available,and have been since Hahnemann's original

> work.  There are different philosophies and protocols, and all are

> beneficial, but the method in question, of taking nosodes and western

> vaccines at the same time is possible, although " aggravations " are

> possible.  One should probably seek guidance from an experienced homeopath,

> but at very low potency, the homeopathic will allow the body to absorb the

> vaccine " more efficiently " ,  while a stronger potency MAY cause the body to

> reject the  vaccine and render the whole exercise useless.

> David

> --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Genevieve Le Goff <mellowmoonherbs wrote:

>

> Genevieve Le Goff <mellowmoonherbs

> Re: homeopathic vaccines available

> Chinese Medicine

> Sunday, April 26, 2009, 12:23 PM

>

>

I don't know Kokko, i've never heard anything about that. But that does

> bring up a few questions:

> why would one do both concurrently ?

> if you took the homeopathic version first and it was working, theoretically

> there should't be a fight? (that is, on the theory that the mechanism is

> purely vibrational and doesn't involve immune response... no research i know

> of on that subject... anyone????.. .)

> if you took both together, i could see that there might be a fight? but

> again i think to answer that question more needs to be understood about how

> homeopathy works, so one could envision the scenario when mingled to the

> vaccine induced immune response.

> Sorry no help

> G.

>

> --- On Sun, 4/26/09, <johnkokko (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> <johnkokko (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> Re: homeopathic vaccines available

>

> Sunday, April 26, 2009, 7:31 AM

>

> Is there a danger of taking nosodes and vaccines concurrently?

> (I've read this somewhere, but can't remember the exact reference)

> There could be a severe reaction when taking one before the other.

>

> K

>

> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Genevieve Le Goff <

> mellowmoonherbs@ > wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Something just came to mind... not Chinese but nevertheless a

>> usefulnatural

>> alternative.

>> Homeopathic vaccines exist! It is now coming back to my mind that my

>> daughter got homeopathic tetanus and polio. It's not mainstream but can be

>> found. We obtained it through a homeopathic MD, Dr. Hiltner, in Ojai, CA.

>> He

>> had lots of research to back up his faith in this method of vaccination,

>> and

>> a lifetime of success with his patients.

>> Genevieve.

>>

>>

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I am a trained homeopath and you would NEVER use nosodes and

vaccines.Understanding the rigors of the individual and the perscribing would be

something you need to be properly trained for. Classical SH Homeopathy is the

best use of Homeopathy and not something you willy nilly. Any classically

trained homeopath whom also understands the poisoning of western medicine and

understands vaccinology versus immunology would see that vaccinations are not

the answer. Optimal nutrition and then the use of homeopathics as needed. A

recent outbreak of Leptospirosis in Cuba was treated with Homeopathic nosodes

sucessfully. In those cases of nosode use, you are exchanging the chance of

encountering the disease force with the controlled application of the nosode

while the vital force would be exposed to the disease, in this way, the nosode

" covers " the vital force so that the disease force is not able to gain entrance

to the vital force. You would end up proving the remedy or the nosode if

overused or misused, even possibly causing the disease to affect vital force if

using just random application of nosodes. Most hemeopaths will not even let

anyone near nosodes if they are not working under a properly trained certified

homeopath.

 

Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

 

 

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johnkokko

Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:47:10 -0700

Re: homeopathic vaccines available

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I ask this question, because I remember reading a book warning of

combining vaccinations with homeopathic nosodes....

is dangerous to do one before the other (can't remember exactly which

one came first).

There could be an exacerbation of sx.

 

This came from a homeopath. Anyone know?

 

Why would people do both?

1. Because they don't trust one or both to work by itself

2. Because they aren't paying attention

 

On 4/26/09, David Tarlo <d1tarlo wrote:

> Homeopathic vaccines are available,and have been since Hahnemann's original

> work. There are different philosophies and protocols, and all are

> beneficial, but the method in question, of taking nosodes and western

> vaccines at the same time is possible, although " aggravations " are

> possible. One should probably seek guidance from an experienced homeopath,

> but at very low potency, the homeopathic will allow the body to absorb the

> vaccine " more efficiently " , while a stronger potency MAY cause the body to

> reject the vaccine and render the whole exercise useless.

> David

> --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Genevieve Le Goff <mellowmoonherbs wrote:

>

> Genevieve Le Goff <mellowmoonherbs

> Re: homeopathic vaccines available

> Chinese Medicine

> Sunday, April 26, 2009, 12:23 PM

>

>

I don't know Kokko, i've never heard anything about that. But that does

> bring up a few questions:

> why would one do both concurrently ?

> if you took the homeopathic version first and it was working, theoretically

> there should't be a fight? (that is, on the theory that the mechanism is

> purely vibrational and doesn't involve immune response... no research i know

> of on that subject... anyone????.. .)

> if you took both together, i could see that there might be a fight? but

> again i think to answer that question more needs to be understood about how

> homeopathy works, so one could envision the scenario when mingled to the

> vaccine induced immune response.

> Sorry no help

> G.

>

> --- On Sun, 4/26/09, <johnkokko (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> <johnkokko (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> Re: homeopathic vaccines available

>

> Sunday, April 26, 2009, 7:31 AM

>

> Is there a danger of taking nosodes and vaccines concurrently?

> (I've read this somewhere, but can't remember the exact reference)

> There could be a severe reaction when taking one before the other.

>

> K

>

> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Genevieve Le Goff <

> mellowmoonherbs@ > wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Something just came to mind... not Chinese but nevertheless a

>> usefulnatural

>> alternative.

>> Homeopathic vaccines exist! It is now coming back to my mind that my

>> daughter got homeopathic tetanus and polio. It's not mainstream but can be

>> found. We obtained it through a homeopathic MD, Dr. Hiltner, in Ojai, CA.

>> He

>> had lots of research to back up his faith in this method of vaccination,

>> and

>> a lifetime of success with his patients.

>> Genevieve.

>>

>>

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Patricia,

So, which one is it? Should people especially not take Nosodes before or

after vaccinations.

There might be those out there who receive nosode therapy and then get

vaccinated,

without the supervision of a trained homeopath. You can get nosodes on the

internet.

 

K

 

 

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Patricia Jordan <

coastalcatclinic wrote:

 

>

>

>

> I am a trained homeopath and you would NEVER use nosodes and

> vaccines.Understanding the rigors of the individual and the perscribing

> would be something you need to be properly trained for. Classical SH

> Homeopathy is the best use of Homeopathy and not something you willy nilly.

> Any classically trained homeopath whom also understands the poisoning of

> western medicine and understands vaccinology versus immunology would see

> that vaccinations are not the answer. Optimal nutrition and then the use of

> homeopathics as needed. A recent outbreak of Leptospirosis in Cuba was

> treated with Homeopathic nosodes sucessfully. In those cases of nosode use,

> you are exchanging the chance of encountering the disease force with the

> controlled application of the nosode while the vital force would be exposed

> to the disease, in this way, the nosode " covers " the vital force so that the

> disease force is not able to gain entrance to the vital force. You would end

> up proving the remedy or the nosode if overused or misused, even possibly

> causing the disease to affect vital force if using just random application

> of nosodes. Most hemeopaths will not even let anyone near nosodes if they

> are not working under a properly trained certified homeopath.

>

>

> Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

>

> To:

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

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> johnkokko <johnkokko%40gmail.com>

> Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:47:10 -0700

>

> Re: homeopathic vaccines available

>

> I ask this question, because I remember reading a book warning of

> combining vaccinations with homeopathic nosodes....

> is dangerous to do one before the other (can't remember exactly which

> one came first).

> There could be an exacerbation of sx.

>

> This came from a homeopath. Anyone know?

>

> Why would people do both?

> 1. Because they don't trust one or both to work by itself

> 2. Because they aren't paying attention

>

> On 4/26/09, David Tarlo <d1tarlo <d1tarlo%40>> wrote:

> > Homeopathic vaccines are available,and have been since Hahnemann's

> original

> > work. There are different philosophies and protocols, and all are

> > beneficial, but the method in question, of taking nosodes and western

> > vaccines at the same time is possible, although " aggravations " are

> > possible. One should probably seek guidance from an experienced

> homeopath,

> > but at very low potency, the homeopathic will allow the body to absorb

> the

> > vaccine " more efficiently " , while a stronger potency MAY cause the body

> to

> > reject the vaccine and render the whole exercise useless.

> > David

> > --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Genevieve Le Goff

<mellowmoonherbs<mellowmoonherbs%40>>

> wrote:

> >

> > Genevieve Le Goff

<mellowmoonherbs<mellowmoonherbs%40>

> >

> > Re: homeopathic vaccines available

> > To:

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>

> > Sunday, April 26, 2009, 12:23 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't know Kokko, i've never heard anything about that. But that does

> > bring up a few questions:

> > why would one do both concurrently ?

> > if you took the homeopathic version first and it was working,

> theoretically

> > there should't be a fight? (that is, on the theory that the mechanism is

> > purely vibrational and doesn't involve immune response... no research i

> know

> > of on that subject... anyone????.. .)

> > if you took both together, i could see that there might be a fight? but

> > again i think to answer that question more needs to be understood about

> how

> > homeopathy works, so one could envision the scenario when mingled to the

> > vaccine induced immune response.

> > Sorry no help

> > G.

> >

> > --- On Sun, 4/26/09, <johnkokko (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

> >

> > <johnkokko (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> > Re: homeopathic vaccines available

> >

> > Sunday, April 26, 2009, 7:31 AM

> >

> > Is there a danger of taking nosodes and vaccines concurrently?

> > (I've read this somewhere, but can't remember the exact reference)

> > There could be a severe reaction when taking one before the other.

> >

> > K

> >

> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Genevieve Le Goff <

> > mellowmoonherbs@ > wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> Something just came to mind... not Chinese but nevertheless a

> >> usefulnatural

> >> alternative.

> >> Homeopathic vaccines exist! It is now coming back to my mind that my

> >> daughter got homeopathic tetanus and polio. It's not mainstream but can

> be

> >> found. We obtained it through a homeopathic MD, Dr. Hiltner, in Ojai,

> CA.

> >> He

> >> had lots of research to back up his faith in this method of vaccination,

> >> and

> >> a lifetime of success with his patients.

> >> Genevieve.

> >>

> >>

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I used the homeopathic vaccines on my children.

 

Another good source about these 'vaccines' is the work of Francisco

Eizayaga, M.D., who used them extensively in his practice in Buenos

Aires.

 

 

On Apr 26, 2009, at 4:56 PM, David Tarlo wrote:

 

>

>

> Homeopathic vaccines are available,and have been since Hahnemann's

> original work. There are different philosophies and protocols, and

> all are beneficial, but the method in question, of taking nosodes

> and western vaccines at the same time is possible, although

> " aggravations " are possible. One should probably seek guidance from

> an experienced homeopath, but at very low potency, the homeopathic

> will allow the body to absorb the vaccine " more efficiently " , while

> a stronger potency MAY cause the body to reject the vaccine and

> render the whole exercise useless.

> David

> --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Genevieve Le Goff <mellowmoonherbs

> wrote:

>

> Genevieve Le Goff <mellowmoonherbs

> Re: homeopathic vaccines available

> Chinese Medicine

> Sunday, April 26, 2009, 12:23 PM

>

> I don't know Kokko, i've never heard anything about that. But that

> does bring up a few questions:

> why would one do both concurrently ?

> if you took the homeopathic version first and it was working,

> theoretically there should't be a fight? (that is, on the theory

> that the mechanism is purely vibrational and doesn't involve immune

> response... no research i know of on that subject... anyone????.. .)

> if you took both together, i could see that there might be a fight?

> but again i think to answer that question more needs to be

> understood about how homeopathy works, so one could envision the

> scenario when mingled to the vaccine induced immune response.

> Sorry no help

> G.

>

> --- On Sun, 4/26/09, <johnkokko (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> <johnkokko (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> Re: homeopathic vaccines available

>

> Sunday, April 26, 2009, 7:31 AM

>

> Is there a danger of taking nosodes and vaccines concurrently?

> (I've read this somewhere, but can't remember the exact reference)

> There could be a severe reaction when taking one before the other.

>

> K

>

> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Genevieve Le Goff <

> mellowmoonherbs@ > wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Something just came to mind... not Chinese but nevertheless a

> usefulnatural

> > alternative.

> > Homeopathic vaccines exist! It is now coming back to my mind that my

> > daughter got homeopathic tetanus and polio. It's not mainstream

> but can be

> > found. We obtained it through a homeopathic MD, Dr. Hiltner, in

> Ojai, CA. He

> > had lots of research to back up his faith in this method of

> vaccination, and

> > a lifetime of success with his patients.

> > Genevieve.

> >

> >

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Nosodes are not to be taken with vaccines, they need to only be taken by those

whom are under the care of a trained homeopath. Homeopathy is a powerful form of

medicine, you want to willy nilly remedies, you are on your own.There are all

sorts of " things on the internet " just like there are all sorts of herbal

remedies sold by all sorts of " sources " , just like taking drugs you find on the

internet, or TCM herbs. The training of the homeopaths in this country if not

under classical SH training, are not practicing classical homeopathy, I don't

know what they call the thing they are doing but it is not classical SH

Homeopathy. Perhaps bird shot medicine would be a good name for it.

 

Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

 

 

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johnkokko

Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:28:52 -0700

Re: homeopathic vaccines available

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Patricia,

So, which one is it? Should people especially not take Nosodes before or

after vaccinations.

There might be those out there who receive nosode therapy and then get

vaccinated,

without the supervision of a trained homeopath. You can get nosodes on the

internet.

 

K

 

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Patricia Jordan <

coastalcatclinic wrote:

 

>

>

>

> I am a trained homeopath and you would NEVER use nosodes and

> vaccines.Understanding the rigors of the individual and the perscribing

> would be something you need to be properly trained for. Classical SH

> Homeopathy is the best use of Homeopathy and not something you willy nilly.

> Any classically trained homeopath whom also understands the poisoning of

> western medicine and understands vaccinology versus immunology would see

> that vaccinations are not the answer. Optimal nutrition and then the use of

> homeopathics as needed. A recent outbreak of Leptospirosis in Cuba was

> treated with Homeopathic nosodes sucessfully. In those cases of nosode use,

> you are exchanging the chance of encountering the disease force with the

> controlled application of the nosode while the vital force would be exposed

> to the disease, in this way, the nosode " covers " the vital force so that the

> disease force is not able to gain entrance to the vital force. You would end

> up proving the remedy or the nosode if overused or misused, even possibly

> causing the disease to affect vital force if using just random application

> of nosodes. Most hemeopaths will not even let anyone near nosodes if they

> are not working under a properly trained certified homeopath.

>

>

> Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

>

> To:

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>

> johnkokko <johnkokko%40gmail.com>

> Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:47:10 -0700

>

> Re: homeopathic vaccines available

>

> I ask this question, because I remember reading a book warning of

> combining vaccinations with homeopathic nosodes....

> is dangerous to do one before the other (can't remember exactly which

> one came first).

> There could be an exacerbation of sx.

>

> This came from a homeopath. Anyone know?

>

> Why would people do both?

> 1. Because they don't trust one or both to work by itself

> 2. Because they aren't paying attention

>

> On 4/26/09, David Tarlo <d1tarlo <d1tarlo%40>> wrote:

> > Homeopathic vaccines are available,and have been since Hahnemann's

> original

> > work. There are different philosophies and protocols, and all are

> > beneficial, but the method in question, of taking nosodes and western

> > vaccines at the same time is possible, although " aggravations " are

> > possible. One should probably seek guidance from an experienced

> homeopath,

> > but at very low potency, the homeopathic will allow the body to absorb

> the

> > vaccine " more efficiently " , while a stronger potency MAY cause the body

> to

> > reject the vaccine and render the whole exercise useless.

> > David

> > --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Genevieve Le Goff

<mellowmoonherbs<mellowmoonherbs%40>>

> wrote:

> >

> > Genevieve Le Goff

<mellowmoonherbs<mellowmoonherbs%40>

> >

> > Re: homeopathic vaccines available

> > To:

Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\

ogroups.com>

> > Sunday, April 26, 2009, 12:23 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't know Kokko, i've never heard anything about that. But that does

> > bring up a few questions:

> > why would one do both concurrently ?

> > if you took the homeopathic version first and it was working,

> theoretically

> > there should't be a fight? (that is, on the theory that the mechanism is

> > purely vibrational and doesn't involve immune response... no research i

> know

> > of on that subject... anyone????.. .)

> > if you took both together, i could see that there might be a fight? but

> > again i think to answer that question more needs to be understood about

> how

> > homeopathy works, so one could envision the scenario when mingled to the

> > vaccine induced immune response.

> > Sorry no help

> > G.

> >

> > --- On Sun, 4/26/09, <johnkokko (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

> >

> > <johnkokko (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

> > Re: homeopathic vaccines available

> >

> > Sunday, April 26, 2009, 7:31 AM

> >

> > Is there a danger of taking nosodes and vaccines concurrently?

> > (I've read this somewhere, but can't remember the exact reference)

> > There could be a severe reaction when taking one before the other.

> >

> > K

> >

> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Genevieve Le Goff <

> > mellowmoonherbs@ > wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> Something just came to mind... not Chinese but nevertheless a

> >> usefulnatural

> >> alternative.

> >> Homeopathic vaccines exist! It is now coming back to my mind that my

> >> daughter got homeopathic tetanus and polio. It's not mainstream but can

> be

> >> found. We obtained it through a homeopathic MD, Dr. Hiltner, in Ojai,

> CA.

> >> He

> >> had lots of research to back up his faith in this method of vaccination,

> >> and

> >> a lifetime of success with his patients.

> >> Genevieve.

> >>

> >>

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