the power of Yi [Intention] in Healing

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

 

Bonilla E. [Evidence about the power of intention] [Article in

Spanish] Invest Clin. 2008 Dec;49(4):595-615. Instituto de

Investigaciones Clínica Dr. Ambrico Negrette-Centro de

Investigaciones Biomédicas IVIC-Zulia, Maracaibo, Venezuela.

ebromero Intention is defined as a directed thought to

perform a determined action. Thoughts targeted to an end can affect

inanimate objects and practically all living things from unicelular

organisms to human beings. The emission of light particles

(biophotons) seems to be the mechanism through which an intention

produces its effects. All living organisms emit a constant current of

photons as a mean to direct instantaneous nonlocal signals from one

part of the body to another and to the outside world. Biophotons are

stored in the intracelular DNA. When the organism is sick changes in

biophotons emissions are produced.Direct intention manifests itself

as an electric and magnetic energy producing an ordered flux of

photons. Our intentions seem to operate as highly coherent

frequencies capable of changing the molecular structure of matter.

For the intention to be effective it is necessary to choose the

appropriate time. In fact, living beings are mutually synchronized

and to the earth and its constant changes of magnetic energy. It has

been shown that the energy of thought can also alter the environment.

Hypnosis, stigmata phenomena and the placebo effect can also be

considered as types of intention, as instructions to the brain during

a particular state of consciousness. Cases of spontaneous cures or of

remote healing of extremely ill patients represent instances of an

exceedingly great intention to control diseases menacing our lives.

The intention to heal as well as the beliefs of the sick person on

the efficacy of the healing influences promote his healing. In

conclusion, studies on thought and consciousness are emerging as

fundamental aspects and not as mere epiphenomena that are rapidly

leading to a profound change in the paradigms of Biology and

Medicine. Publication Types: English Abstract PMID: 19245175 [PubMed -

in process]

 

Best regards,

 

[Guest guest]

Phil, Thank you for posting this.

I would love to see the details of the article.

There is one statement in this summary that raised the ??? for me: " Biophotons

are stored in the intracelular DNA " ;

 

I would have imagined that out ability to produce an impact associated with a

focused intention would be more dynamic - perhaps linked to out metabolic rate

at the moment (Wei Qi or Zheng Qi, vs the Jing commonly associated with the idea

of DNA). After all most of us are able to concentrate well when we are fresh in

the morning and less so after a long day when we are tired - the Qi of the body

is depleted (for a healthy person it will be recovered with a nights rest and

food), but there should not be a significant difference in the DNA strength

between morning and an evening.

 

I wonder if anyone would like to comment on this statement from the article.

Perhaps I misunderstood it.

 

Thanks,

Eugene Kokorin

L.Ac; DAOM

 

â€A superior pilot is one that uses his superior decision making to avoid

situations where his superior flying skills might be requiredâ€

 

 

 

 

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the power of Yi [intention] in Healing

 

 

Hi All,

 

Bonilla E. [Evidence about the power of intention] [Article in

Spanish] Invest Clin. 2008 Dec;49(4):595- 615. Instituto de

Investigaciones Clínica Dr. Ambrico Negrette-Centro de

Investigaciones Biomédicas IVIC-Zulia, Maracaibo, Venezuela.

ebromero (AT) cantv (DOT) net Intention is defined as a directed thought to

perform a determined action. Thoughts targeted to an end can affect

inanimate objects and practically all living things from unicelular

organisms to human beings. The emission of light particles

(biophotons) seems to be the mechanism through which an intention

produces its effects. All living organisms emit a constant current of

photons as a mean to direct instantaneous nonlocal signals from one

part of the body to another and to the outside world. Biophotons are

stored in the intracelular DNA. When the organism is sick changes in

biophotons emissions are produced.Direct intention manifests itself

as an electric and magnetic energy producing an ordered flux of

photons. Our intentions seem to operate as highly coherent

frequencies capable of changing the molecular structure of matter.

For the intention to be effective it is necessary to choose the

appropriate time. In fact, living beings are mutually synchronized

and to the earth and its constant changes of magnetic energy. It has

been shown that the energy of thought can also alter the environment.

Hypnosis, stigmata phenomena and the placebo effect can also be

considered as types of intention, as instructions to the brain during

a particular state of consciousness. Cases of spontaneous cures or of

remote healing of extremely ill patients represent instances of an

exceedingly great intention to control diseases menacing our lives.

The intention to heal as well as the beliefs of the sick person on

the efficacy of the healing influences promote his healing. In

conclusion, studies on thought and consciousness are emerging as

fundamental aspects and not as mere epiphenomena that are rapidly

leading to a profound change in the paradigms of Biology and

Medicine. Publication Types: English Abstract PMID: 19245175 [PubMed -

in process]

 

Best regards,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Christian & All,

 

Christian, I assume that I have your permission to cross-post this to

other TCM lists on which the same discussion is ongoing.

 

Christian wrote:

> Hi all, I´m a practitioner who is open minded and trusting my own

> observations more than any theory. So I published some years ago in

> this forum " my little experiment " to show and prove that it is the

> intention that heals.Since march 2008 I´m doing all my treatments in

> horses and humans WITHOUT inserting a needle. See:

> http://www.torp.de/AOE-Acupuncture-orientated-energy-therapy.html It

> is hard stuff for many owners and for my colleagues too, but it was

> time for me to take this step. Last months I lived a hard time but I

> think I´m out of the wood now and I´m happy that I had the guts to do

> this pas. It´s quite logical that this method is more than subjective

> and any double blind study on it has to fail. But the center of my mind

> and interest is the patient and his improvement and healing process. So

> I see my part in giving the observation of a phenomenon and the result

> of treatment.Others may discuss how it works and why. Phil, you

> remember our meeting with Jean 2 years ago? To know people like you,

> him, Are and others is one of the big secrets of my personal

> development and I´m glad and very thankful of having met such

> personalities. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and opinions.

> Christian

 

Christian, of course I remember the few days with you! Meeting you

and your beautiful family, and seeing how you and Jean can help

horses made a deep impression on me, as have my visits to Are.

 

To treat effectively by Yi and without using needles or other

physical stimuli is in the realm of medical mastery. I salute you on

your success.

 

It is my dream that, some day, I may reach that degree of mastery.

Cristian, we have much in common, but I cannot match your skill, nor

claim 95% clinical success rates, at this time.

 

I am not in the same league as the Masters, even Masters like Marvin

& Emiel who believe that they must use needles! I am a slow-learning

student but I am progressing week by week and year by year.

 

Some day, I will have the guts to treat and heal without having to

use needles or physical stimuli. Meanwhile, my biggest mental blocks

to your (and Are's) methods are:

 

BLOCK 1: Lack of confidence in my ability to do what you do. I know

that I will never overcome that block unless I first:

 

(a) try it in a few cases,

and

(b) have a successful outcome in circa the same % of cases as I do

with needles.

 

All great healers whom I know need a MENTAL FRAME OF REFERENCE within

which to work. For those of us who use AP / Guasha / herbs, etc, our

frame of reference is our KNOWLEDGE of basic and advanced TCM

Theories. The more we understand those theories (so much so that they

become an instinctive part of our basic thought processes), the more

our confidence in the system grows, and, therefore, our self-

confidence with those methods grows also.

 

BLOCK 2: What Masters can do with Yi / Qigong seems to be in the

realm of true Magic of false Illusion. [We have had scandals recently

in Ireland that involved qualified medics practising so-called

energetic medicine (and charging unbelievably high fees) with no

worthwhile clinical benefit. One medic was struck off recently and is

in prison for fraud].

 

I know from meeting many Masters (and experiencing palpable energetic

transfers from them to me) that THEY ARE Masters. But my vet

colleagues here and most of my clients are NOT open to these ideas,

even if I were skilled enough to develop & use them. That is a huge

practical block when one is surrounded by materialistic, skeptical

people.

 

Today, I was invited to treat 2 horses at one of the top thoroughbred

hospitals on the Curragh.

 

Observed closely by three vet colleagues, 2 vet support-staff and the

2 horse owners [who had not seen AP done before], I needled mirror-,

distant- and regional points.

 

Muscular sensitivity / guarding that was clearly present immediately

before needling (right rump in Horse #1; left neck; right top rump +

right hamstring in horse #2) disappeared instantly after I needled

the first (mirror-) points. I added other needles to reinforce the

effect.

 

It was very hard for my observers to BELIEVE that. However, had I

merely used Yi without needles, they would almost certainly NOT

believed it and I would probably been dismissed as a complete

charlatan or lunatic. I would not have been invited back to treat

more horses at that hospital, even if the handlers confirmed that the

horses were moving better in the following days. In that case, they

would have attributed the improvement to " spontaneous self-cure " .

 

[All of us on the List probably accept that ALL cure is self-cure but

that our methods accelerate or trigger the homeostatic mechanisms

involved. Those of us who accept that the Creator / G_d and

immaterial spirits are real can still accept the concept of the

higher powers triggering self-cure via our methods; we act merely as

their hands on this planet.]

 

BLOCK 3: In trained hands, ESP (aimed at diagnostic input) and Qigong

/ Yi (aimed at therapeutic output) are most potent tools.

 

However, even open-minded, sincere students can become confused, even

misled (because of their lack of insight on the importance of the

" frame of reference " , mentioned in Block 1) when they see true

Masters heal without needles.

 

They think: " If Yi is ALL that is needed, why waste money and

valuable time - hundreds to thousands of hours - studying TCM

Theory? "

 

It is, IMO, the DUTY of AP teachers and Master Practitioners to leave

students in no doubt as to the importance of studying the basics

first, then begin simple acupuncture (using standard methods), BEFORE

they begin to experiment with the higher levels (ESP and Qigong / Yi,

etc).

 

I know many " wannabees " , often people with generous hearts and

genuine love of people / animals who, I believe, would be disasterous

as effective diagnosticians / therapists because of their lack of

basic medical and TCM theory.

 

I believe that, at all stages of their formal training, AP students

should be exposed to the concepts of ESP, Yi, dowsing, etc, and be

encouraged to read about and experiment with those.

 

I also agree with Are that there are at least three types of Yi (Yi

of thought / thinking, Yi of empathy / feeling and Yi of intent /

willing). However, it is not easy to teach these things to colleagues

who are not open to these ideas. Also, as in music, one can teach

basic music theory and notation to 100 students and be lucky if ONE

of them develops to a great musician.

 

Some of us will never develop mastery in ESP / Yi, no matter how hard

we may try. Therefore, the need to learn basic AP theory, the

functions and uses of the commonly used acupoints, and effective use

of the needles should remain the top priority for trainees in AP.

 

Best regards,

 

[Guest guest]

I'm glad you brought up music at the end, Phil. I tend to look at these

discussions in that sense and one thing I've heard from musicians is that one

cannot tell the quality of the performance from the feelings or mood of the

performer at the time. In other words, great performances come out of crappy

moods and vice versa. Sometimes I worry that Intention means a kind of tightened

sphinter and effort and intense - ion. I'd like to see the work done outside of

the treatment room, that the mood and mind of the practitioner be clear before

entering and so that even momentary distractions have little over all effect.

When these " spontaneous healings " happen it should be the thought of " that's

nice " but cultivating the " extra ordinary " when we have such great and ordinary

tools may be " putting cart in front of the horse " .

Doug

 

 

, " " < wrote:

>

> Hi Christian & All,

>

> Christian, I assume that I have your permission to cross-post this to

> other TCM lists on which the same discussion is ongoing.

>

> Christian wrote:

> > Hi all, I´m a practitioner who is open minded and trusting my own

> > observations more than any theory. So I published some years ago in

> > this forum " my little experiment " to show and prove that it is the

> > intention that heals.Since march 2008 I´m doing all my treatments in

> > horses and humans WITHOUT inserting a needle. See:

> > http://www.torp.de/AOE-Acupuncture-orientated-energy-therapy.html It

> > is hard stuff for many owners and for my colleagues too, but it was

> > time for me to take this step. Last months I lived a hard time but I

> > think I´m out of the wood now and I´m happy that I had the guts to do

> > this pas. It´s quite logical that this method is more than subjective

> > and any double blind study on it has to fail. But the center of my mind

> > and interest is the patient and his improvement and healing process. So

> > I see my part in giving the observation of a phenomenon and the result

> > of treatment.Others may discuss how it works and why. Phil, you

> > remember our meeting with Jean 2 years ago? To know people like you,

> > him, Are and others is one of the big secrets of my personal

> > development and I´m glad and very thankful of having met such

> > personalities. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and opinions.

> > Christian

>

> Christian, of course I remember the few days with you! Meeting you

> and your beautiful family, and seeing how you and Jean can help

> horses made a deep impression on me, as have my visits to Are.

>

> To treat effectively by Yi and without using needles or other

> physical stimuli is in the realm of medical mastery. I salute you on

> your success.

>

> It is my dream that, some day, I may reach that degree of mastery.

> Cristian, we have much in common, but I cannot match your skill, nor

> claim 95% clinical success rates, at this time.

>

> I am not in the same league as the Masters, even Masters like Marvin

> & Emiel who believe that they must use needles! I am a slow-learning

> student but I am progressing week by week and year by year.

>

> Some day, I will have the guts to treat and heal without having to

> use needles or physical stimuli. Meanwhile, my biggest mental blocks

> to your (and Are's) methods are:

>

> BLOCK 1: Lack of confidence in my ability to do what you do. I know

> that I will never overcome that block unless I first:

>

> (a) try it in a few cases,

> and

> (b) have a successful outcome in circa the same % of cases as I do

> with needles.

>

> All great healers whom I know need a MENTAL FRAME OF REFERENCE within

> which to work. For those of us who use AP / Guasha / herbs, etc, our

> frame of reference is our KNOWLEDGE of basic and advanced TCM

> Theories. The more we understand those theories (so much so that they

> become an instinctive part of our basic thought processes), the more

> our confidence in the system grows, and, therefore, our self-

> confidence with those methods grows also.

>

> BLOCK 2: What Masters can do with Yi / Qigong seems to be in the

> realm of true Magic of false Illusion. [We have had scandals recently

> in Ireland that involved qualified medics practising so-called

> energetic medicine (and charging unbelievably high fees) with no

> worthwhile clinical benefit. One medic was struck off recently and is

> in prison for fraud].

>

> I know from meeting many Masters (and experiencing palpable energetic

> transfers from them to me) that THEY ARE Masters. But my vet

> colleagues here and most of my clients are NOT open to these ideas,

> even if I were skilled enough to develop & use them. That is a huge

> practical block when one is surrounded by materialistic, skeptical

> people.

>

> Today, I was invited to treat 2 horses at one of the top thoroughbred

> hospitals on the Curragh.

>

> Observed closely by three vet colleagues, 2 vet support-staff and the

> 2 horse owners [who had not seen AP done before], I needled mirror-,

> distant- and regional points.

>

> Muscular sensitivity / guarding that was clearly present immediately

> before needling (right rump in Horse #1; left neck; right top rump +

> right hamstring in horse #2) disappeared instantly after I needled

> the first (mirror-) points. I added other needles to reinforce the

> effect.

>

> It was very hard for my observers to BELIEVE that. However, had I

> merely used Yi without needles, they would almost certainly NOT

> believed it and I would probably been dismissed as a complete

> charlatan or lunatic. I would not have been invited back to treat

> more horses at that hospital, even if the handlers confirmed that the

> horses were moving better in the following days. In that case, they

> would have attributed the improvement to " spontaneous self-cure " .

>

> [All of us on the List probably accept that ALL cure is self-cure but

> that our methods accelerate or trigger the homeostatic mechanisms

> involved. Those of us who accept that the Creator / G_d and

> immaterial spirits are real can still accept the concept of the

> higher powers triggering self-cure via our methods; we act merely as

> their hands on this planet.]

>

> BLOCK 3: In trained hands, ESP (aimed at diagnostic input) and Qigong

> / Yi (aimed at therapeutic output) are most potent tools.

>

> However, even open-minded, sincere students can become confused, even

> misled (because of their lack of insight on the importance of the

> " frame of reference " , mentioned in Block 1) when they see true

> Masters heal without needles.

>

> They think: " If Yi is ALL that is needed, why waste money and

> valuable time - hundreds to thousands of hours - studying TCM

> Theory? "

>

> It is, IMO, the DUTY of AP teachers and Master Practitioners to leave

> students in no doubt as to the importance of studying the basics

> first, then begin simple acupuncture (using standard methods), BEFORE

> they begin to experiment with the higher levels (ESP and Qigong / Yi,

> etc).

>

> I know many " wannabees " , often people with generous hearts and

> genuine love of people / animals who, I believe, would be disasterous

> as effective diagnosticians / therapists because of their lack of

> basic medical and TCM theory.

>

> I believe that, at all stages of their formal training, AP students

> should be exposed to the concepts of ESP, Yi, dowsing, etc, and be

> encouraged to read about and experiment with those.

>

> I also agree with Are that there are at least three types of Yi (Yi

> of thought / thinking, Yi of empathy / feeling and Yi of intent /

> willing). However, it is not easy to teach these things to colleagues

> who are not open to these ideas. Also, as in music, one can teach

> basic music theory and notation to 100 students and be lucky if ONE

> of them develops to a great musician.

>

> Some of us will never develop mastery in ESP / Yi, no matter how hard

> we may try. Therefore, the need to learn basic AP theory, the

> functions and uses of the commonly used acupoints, and effective use

> of the needles should remain the top priority for trainees in AP.

>

> Best regards,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Christian & All,

 

Christian, I assume that I have your permission to cross-post this to

other TCM lists on which the same discussion is ongoing.

 

Christian wrote:

> Hi all, I´m a practitioner who is open minded and trusting my own

> observations more than any theory. So I published some years ago in

> this forum " my little experiment " to show and prove that it is the

> intention that heals.Since march 2008 I´m doing all my treatments in

> horses and humans WITHOUT inserting a needle. See:

> http://www.torp.de/AOE-Acupuncture-orientated-energy-therapy.html It

> is hard stuff for many owners and for my colleagues too, but it was

> time for me to take this step. Last months I lived a hard time but I

> think I´m out of the wood now and I´m happy that I had the guts to do

> this pas. It´s quite logical that this method is more than subjective

> and any double blind study on it has to fail. But the center of my mind

> and interest is the patient and his improvement and healing process. So

> I see my part in giving the observation of a phenomenon and the result

> of treatment.Others may discuss how it works and why. Phil, you

> remember our meeting with Jean 2 years ago? To know people like you,

> him, Are and others is one of the big secrets of my personal

> development and I´m glad and very thankful of having met such

> personalities. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and opinions.

> Christian

 

Christian, of course I remember the few days with you! Meeting you

and your beautiful family, and seeing how you and Jean can help

horses made a deep impression on me, as have my visits to Are.

 

To treat effectively by Yi and without using needles or other

physical stimuli is in the realm of medical mastery. I salute you on

your success.

 

It is my dream that, some day, I may reach that degree of mastery.

Cristian, we have much in common, but I cannot match your skill, nor

claim 95% clinical success rates, at this time.

 

I am not in the same league as the Masters, even Masters like Marvin

& Emiel who believe that they must use needles! I am a slow-learning

student but I am progressing week by week and year by year.

 

Some day, I will have the guts to treat and heal without having to

use needles or physical stimuli. Meanwhile, my biggest mental blocks

to your (and Are's) methods are:

 

BLOCK 1: Lack of confidence in my ability to do what you do. I know

that I will never overcome that block unless I first:

 

(a) try it in a few cases,

and

(b) have a successful outcome in circa the same % of cases as I do

with needles.

 

All great healers whom I know need a MENTAL FRAME OF REFERENCE within

which to work. For those of us who use AP / Guasha / herbs, etc, our

frame of reference is our KNOWLEDGE of basic and advanced TCM

Theories. The more we understand those theories (so much so that they

become an instinctive part of our basic thought processes), the more

our confidence in the system grows, and, therefore, our self-

confidence with those methods grows also.

 

BLOCK 2: What Masters can do with Yi / Qigong seems to be in the

realm of true Magic of false Illusion. [We have had scandals recently

in Ireland that involved qualified medics practising so-called

energetic medicine (and charging unbelievably high fees) with no

worthwhile clinical benefit. One medic was struck off recently and is

in prison for fraud].

 

I know from meeting many Masters (and experiencing palpable energetic

transfers from them to me) that THEY ARE Masters. But my vet

colleagues here and most of my clients are NOT open to these ideas,

even if I were skilled enough to develop & use them. That is a huge

practical block when one is surrounded by materialistic, skeptical

people.

 

Today, I was invited to treat 2 horses at one of the top thoroughbred

hospitals on the Curragh.

 

Observed closely by three vet colleagues, 2 vet support-staff and the

2 horse owners [who had not seen AP done before], I needled mirror-,

distant- and regional points.

 

Muscular sensitivity / guarding that was clearly present immediately

before needling (right rump in Horse #1; left neck; right top rump +

right hamstring in horse #2) disappeared instantly after I needled

the first (mirror-) points. I added other needles to reinforce the

effect.

 

It was very hard for my observers to BELIEVE that. However, had I

merely used Yi without needles, they would almost certainly NOT

believed it and I would probably been dismissed as a complete

charlatan or lunatic. I would not have been invited back to treat

more horses at that hospital, even if the handlers confirmed that the

horses were moving better in the following days. In that case, they

would have attributed the improvement to " spontaneous self-cure " .

 

[All of us on the List probably accept that ALL cure is self-cure but

that our methods accelerate or trigger the homeostatic mechanisms

involved. Those of us who accept that the Creator / G_d and

immaterial spirits are real can still accept the concept of the

higher powers triggering self-cure via our methods; we act merely as

their hands on this planet.]

 

BLOCK 3: In trained hands, ESP (aimed at diagnostic input) and Qigong

/ Yi (aimed at therapeutic output) are most potent tools.

 

However, even open-minded, sincere students can become confused, even

misled (because of their lack of insight on the importance of the

" frame of reference " , mentioned in Block 1) when they see true

Masters heal without needles.

 

They think: " If Yi is ALL that is needed, why waste money and

valuable time - hundreds to thousands of hours - studying TCM

Theory? "

 

It is, IMO, the DUTY of AP teachers and Master Practitioners to leave

students in no doubt as to the importance of studying the basics

first, then begin simple acupuncture (using standard methods), BEFORE

they begin to experiment with the higher levels (ESP and Qigong / Yi,

etc).

 

I know many " wannabees " , often people with generous hearts and

genuine love of people / animals who, I believe, would be disasterous

as effective diagnosticians / therapists because of their lack of

basic medical and TCM theory.

 

I believe that, at all stages of their formal training, AP students

should be exposed to the concepts of ESP, Yi, dowsing, etc, and be

encouraged to read about and experiment with those.

 

I also agree with Are that there are at least three types of Yi (Yi

of thought / thinking, Yi of empathy / feeling and Yi of intent /

willing). However, it is not easy to teach these things to colleagues

who are not open to these ideas. Also, as in music, one can teach

basic music theory and notation to 100 students and be lucky if ONE

of them develops to a great musician.

 

Some of us will never develop mastery in ESP / Yi, no matter how hard

we may try. Therefore, the need to learn basic AP theory, the

functions and uses of the commonly used acupoints, and effective use

of the needles should remain the top priority for trainees in AP.

 

Best regards,

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Christian, & All,

 

Marty Eisen (on PA-L List) wrote:

> 1. Perhaps the way to convince people about the power of intention is

> to list all experiments that show that intention works. You can find

> references to some of these at McTaggart's website

> http://www.theintentionexperiment. com/ and in her book The Intention

Experiment.

> The theoretical science explaining why it works should also be

> included.

>

> 2. Acupuncture without needles is a Qigong technique and is described

> in a chapter The Invisible Needle Theory and its Applications in

> Chinese Medical Qigong Therapy by J. Johnson, Int. Inst. of Medical

> Qigong, Pacific Grove , CA, 2000.

>

> 3. Dr. Christian could you please explain your method of diagnosis

> to arrive at the one point to treat.

 

Christian, could you summarise how you reach your conclusion as to

which one point to treat (with / without using a needle)?

 

I will forward your reply to the other Lists also.

 

Best regards,

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Christian, & All,

 

Marty Eisen (on PA-L List) wrote:

> 1. Perhaps the way to convince people about the power of intention is

> to list all experiments that show that intention works. You can find

> references to some of these at McTaggart's website

> http://www.theintentionexperiment. com/ and in her book The Intention

Experiment.

> The theoretical science explaining why it works should also be

> included.

>

> 2. Acupuncture without needles is a Qigong technique and is described

> in a chapter The Invisible Needle Theory and its Applications in

> Chinese Medical Qigong Therapy by J. Johnson, Int. Inst. of Medical

> Qigong, Pacific Grove , CA, 2000.

>

> 3. Dr. Christian could you please explain your method of diagnosis

> to arrive at the one point to treat.

 

Christian, could you summarise how you reach your conclusion as to

which one point to treat (with / without using a needle)?

 

I will forward your reply to the other Lists also.

 

Best regards,

 

[Guest guest]

Acupuncture without needles is taught in workshops by Jeff Nagel, L.Ac.

in workshops around the U.S. These trainings are qigong based. Jeff has

many years of experience in the internal martial arts, Asian bodywork,

and acupuncture. He is not the only one, of course. Jerry Alan Johnson

has a whole curriculum to become a qi-healer.

 

I completely agree that formalized training in the Chinese medical arts

should be the basis, whether one works more with the yi or not. I

studied qigong and taiji for a long time before entering acupuncture

school which helped me to fully realize the importance of that earlier

training in my work as well as in taking good care of my own jing-qi-shen.

 

Frances Gander

Athens, Ohio