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Tongue flickering in and out like a snake's means what in

traditional diagnostics? Thanks, I know I learned this in school, but

forgot and now I don't see it in any book in my library...Thanks again,

-JB

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 Hi Jason:

 

I was reading about this last fall and it had some different info from what I am

about to produce, but there was some overlap...but I don't remember the source

for the different info.

 

 What I do have I think is pretty standard (nicely summarised in Yi and Stone):

 

a tongue that sticks out momentarily and then returns, like that of a snake, is

called " licking " tongue. Some translators use " worried " tongue.

 

it is due to pathogenic heat in either the heart or the spleen channel.

 

 Hope that helps,

 Hugo

 

 

 

 

 

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org

 

 

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Diagnostic question...

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Tongue flickering in and out like a snake's means what in

traditional diagnostics? Thanks, I know I learned this in school, but

forgot and now I don't see it in any book in my library...Thanks again,

-JB

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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If I remember it correctly it means Heart Fire.

 

Eugene

 

”A superior pilot is one that uses his superior decision making to avoid

situations where his superior flying skills might be required”

 

 

 

 

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Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:12:37 PM

Diagnostic question...

 

 

Tongue flickering in and out like a snake's means what in

traditional diagnostics? Thanks, I know I learned this in school, but

forgot and now I don't see it in any book in my library...Thanks again,

-JB

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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with wind

 

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Hugo Ramiro <subincor

Re: Diagnostic question...

Chinese Medicine

Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 5:39 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Hi Jason:

 

 

 

I was reading about this last fall and it had some different info from what I am

about to produce, but there was some overlap...but I don't remember the source

for the different info.

 

 

 

 What I do have I think is pretty standard (nicely summarised in Yi and Stone):

 

 

 

a tongue that sticks out momentarily and then returns, like that of a snake, is

called " licking " tongue. Some translators use " worried " tongue.

 

 

 

it is due to pathogenic heat in either the heart or the spleen channel.

 

 

 

 Hope that helps,

 

 Hugo

 

 

 

Hugo Ramiro

 

http://middlemedici ne.wordpress. com

 

http://www.chinesem edicaltherapies. org

 

 

 

--- On Wed, 18/2/09, jasonwcom <jasonwcom > wrote:

 

 

 

jasonwcom <jasonwcom >

 

Diagnostic question...

 

 

 

Wednesday, 18 February, 2009, 5:12 PM

 

 

 

Tongue flickering in and out like a snake's means what in

 

traditional diagnostics? Thanks, I know I learned this in school, but

 

forgot and now I don't see it in any book in my library...Thanks again,

 

-JB

 

 

 

 

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Yes,

In pediatrics it is associated with a spleen repletion pattern,

described by the 12th century pediatric physician Qian Yi. He

developed a prescription for it called xie huang san, drain the yellow

powder. . .

 

 

On Feb 18, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Hugo Ramiro wrote:

 

> Hi Jason:

>

> I was reading about this last fall and it had some different info

> from what I am about to produce, but there was some overlap...but I

> don't remember the source for the different info.

>

> What I do have I think is pretty standard (nicely summarised in Yi

> and Stone):

>

> a tongue that sticks out momentarily and then returns, like that of

> a snake, is called " licking " tongue. Some translators use " worried "

> tongue.

>

> it is due to pathogenic heat in either the heart or the spleen

> channel.

>

> Hope that helps,

> Hugo

>

> Hugo Ramiro

> http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

> http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org

>

> --- On Wed, 18/2/09, jasonwcom <jasonwcom wrote:

>

> jasonwcom <jasonwcom

> Diagnostic question...

> Chinese Medicine

> Wednesday, 18 February, 2009, 5:12 PM

>

> Tongue flickering in and out like a snake's means what in

> traditional diagnostics? Thanks, I know I learned this in school, but

> forgot and now I don't see it in any book in my library...Thanks

> again,

> -JB

>

>

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Jason,

Based on tongue alone does not signify anything, but it may give a

clue......... Someone said it is Heart Fire, another Wind.

However, Heart Fire can be deficiency or excess, which one? The

same as true in Wind, deficiency or excess, Exterior or Interior ????

Pulses, Inquiry, and Listening ( background )must be acquired.

If it is Heart Fire, does it show any heat, dryness, red tongue,

insomnia, dementia, chest discomfort, tinnitus or cough ?????

If it is Wind, does it show any signs of dizziness, vertigo,

headache, tinnitus, imbalance, hypochondriac discomfort, anger easily ???

If there is no sign above or just a few signs, it may not mean

so...... And how about pulses ?

If the pulse is weak ( thready ), no sign of excess, nor fire, nor

wind...... If it is Flooding ( then, maybe... Fire not heart fire yet

if Heart meridian or organ not affected. )

If pulse is not wiry ( not Liver channel, nor internal Wind ..... )

 

That is just a thought, do not judge on just a sign !!!

I have seen this kind of tongue, flickering as a snake. I ignored it

and looked for other signs and symptoms +++++

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