Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Tongue flickering in and out like a snake's means what in traditional diagnostics? Thanks, I know I learned this in school, but forgot and now I don't see it in any book in my library...Thanks again, -JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Â Hi Jason: Â I was reading about this last fall and it had some different info from what I am about to produce, but there was some overlap...but I don't remember the source for the different info. Â Â What I do have I think is pretty standard (nicely summarised in Yi and Stone): Â a tongue that sticks out momentarily and then returns, like that of a snake, is called " licking " tongue. Some translators use " worried " tongue. Â it is due to pathogenic heat in either the heart or the spleen channel. Â Â Hope that helps, Â Hugo Hugo Ramiro http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org --- On Wed, 18/2/09, jasonwcom <jasonwcom wrote: jasonwcom <jasonwcom Diagnostic question... Chinese Medicine Wednesday, 18 February, 2009, 5:12 PM Tongue flickering in and out like a snake's means what in traditional diagnostics? Thanks, I know I learned this in school, but forgot and now I don't see it in any book in my library...Thanks again, -JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 If I remember it correctly it means Heart Fire. Eugene ”A superior pilot is one that uses his superior decision making to avoid situations where his superior flying skills might be required” ________________________________ jasonwcom <jasonwcom Chinese Medicine Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:12:37 PM Diagnostic question... Tongue flickering in and out like a snake's means what in traditional diagnostics? Thanks, I know I learned this in school, but forgot and now I don't see it in any book in my library...Thanks again, -JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 with wind --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote: Hugo Ramiro <subincor Re: Diagnostic question... Chinese Medicine Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 5:39 PM Hi Jason: I was reading about this last fall and it had some different info from what I am about to produce, but there was some overlap...but I don't remember the source for the different info. What I do have I think is pretty standard (nicely summarised in Yi and Stone): a tongue that sticks out momentarily and then returns, like that of a snake, is called " licking " tongue. Some translators use " worried " tongue. it is due to pathogenic heat in either the heart or the spleen channel. Hope that helps, Hugo Hugo Ramiro http://middlemedici ne.wordpress. com http://www.chinesem edicaltherapies. org --- On Wed, 18/2/09, jasonwcom <jasonwcom > wrote: jasonwcom <jasonwcom > Diagnostic question... Wednesday, 18 February, 2009, 5:12 PM Tongue flickering in and out like a snake's means what in traditional diagnostics? Thanks, I know I learned this in school, but forgot and now I don't see it in any book in my library...Thanks again, -JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Yes, In pediatrics it is associated with a spleen repletion pattern, described by the 12th century pediatric physician Qian Yi. He developed a prescription for it called xie huang san, drain the yellow powder. . . On Feb 18, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Hugo Ramiro wrote: > Hi Jason: > > I was reading about this last fall and it had some different info > from what I am about to produce, but there was some overlap...but I > don't remember the source for the different info. > > What I do have I think is pretty standard (nicely summarised in Yi > and Stone): > > a tongue that sticks out momentarily and then returns, like that of > a snake, is called " licking " tongue. Some translators use " worried " > tongue. > > it is due to pathogenic heat in either the heart or the spleen > channel. > > Hope that helps, > Hugo > > Hugo Ramiro > http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com > http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org > > --- On Wed, 18/2/09, jasonwcom <jasonwcom wrote: > > jasonwcom <jasonwcom > Diagnostic question... > Chinese Medicine > Wednesday, 18 February, 2009, 5:12 PM > > Tongue flickering in and out like a snake's means what in > traditional diagnostics? Thanks, I know I learned this in school, but > forgot and now I don't see it in any book in my library...Thanks > again, > -JB > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Jason, Based on tongue alone does not signify anything, but it may give a clue......... Someone said it is Heart Fire, another Wind. However, Heart Fire can be deficiency or excess, which one? The same as true in Wind, deficiency or excess, Exterior or Interior ???? Pulses, Inquiry, and Listening ( background )must be acquired. If it is Heart Fire, does it show any heat, dryness, red tongue, insomnia, dementia, chest discomfort, tinnitus or cough ????? If it is Wind, does it show any signs of dizziness, vertigo, headache, tinnitus, imbalance, hypochondriac discomfort, anger easily ??? If there is no sign above or just a few signs, it may not mean so...... And how about pulses ? If the pulse is weak ( thready ), no sign of excess, nor fire, nor wind...... If it is Flooding ( then, maybe... Fire not heart fire yet if Heart meridian or organ not affected. ) If pulse is not wiry ( not Liver channel, nor internal Wind ..... ) That is just a thought, do not judge on just a sign !!! I have seen this kind of tongue, flickering as a snake. I ignored it and looked for other signs and symptoms +++++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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