Guest guest Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 Although Chinese medicine designates autumn as the time of lung, true scientists have discovered the probable causes of asthma in youngsters. If you find their explanations thoroughly unsatisfactory, this is because you are hopelessly anti-scientific. Even speculative pseudo-science as posited in this article is more scientific than " folk medicine. " http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/health/research/09asthma.html?_r=1 & ei=5070 & emc\ =eta1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 ycmgh, I'm hopefully anti-scientific. For the very simple reason that, in my work, I consider the patient's uniqueness as a fundamental issue, *the*fundamental issue, and scientific method is a knowledge-producting tool incapable of dealing with singular phenomena: that goes against its design. Reproductibility of the experiment is a cornerstone of said method and a patient, considered from a chinese medicine viewpoint, cannot be reproduced. To do that you'd have to make the faustian bargain of dealing with the abstraction " disease " (wich would be " the same " in everyone). Of course that shifts the focus of clinical attention, with effects often disastrous for the patient. Naturally, that's not to say that scientific method cannot produce knowledge within the field of chinese medicine. The difficulties of that task have been often debated in this forum. What never ceases to amaze me is how scientific knowledge is often mistaken for the only " true knowledge " . Should science ever became the only truth (God forfend!), that would mean art and faith, powerful forces in virtually every human culture, forces that have shaped the destiny not just of billions of individual human beings throughout history but also of entire societies, would no longer be " truths " . Gimme " folk medicine " first, always. Respectfully, Daniel Luz 2008/12/10 ycmgh <ycmgh > Although Chinese medicine designates autumn as the time of lung, true > scientists have discovered the probable causes of asthma in youngsters. > > If you find their explanations thoroughly unsatisfactory, this is > because you are hopelessly anti-scientific. Even speculative > pseudo-science as posited in this article is more scientific than > " folk medicine. " > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/health/research/09asthma.html?_r=1 & ei=5070 & emc\ =eta1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 By the way, I wasn't aware that scientific knowledge had varying degrees of " scientificity " . Can one article be " more scientific " than another? And, shouldn't " true scientists " find out " the truth " , not just " probable causes " ? Daniel 2008/12/12 Daniel Luz <paraodaniel > ycmgh, > > I'm hopefully anti-scientific. For the very simple reason that, in my work, > I consider the patient's uniqueness as a fundamental issue, *the*fundamental issue, and scientific method is a knowledge-producting tool > incapable of dealing with singular phenomena: that goes against its design. > Reproductibility of the experiment is a cornerstone of said method and a > patient, considered from a chinese medicine viewpoint, cannot be reproduced. > To do that you'd have to make the faustian bargain of dealing with the > abstraction " disease " (wich would be " the same " in everyone). Of course that > shifts the focus of clinical attention, with effects often disastrous for > the patient. > > Naturally, that's not to say that scientific method cannot produce > knowledge within the field of chinese medicine. The difficulties of that > task have been often debated in this forum. What never ceases to amaze me is > how scientific knowledge is often mistaken for the only " true knowledge " . > Should science ever became the only truth (God forfend!), that would mean > art and faith, powerful forces in virtually every human culture, forces that > have shaped the destiny not just of billions of individual human beings > throughout history but also of entire societies, would no longer be > " truths " . > > Gimme " folk medicine " first, always. > > Respectfully, > Daniel Luz > > 2008/12/10 ycmgh <ycmgh > > Although Chinese medicine designates autumn as the time of lung, true >> scientists have discovered the probable causes of asthma in youngsters. >> >> If you find their explanations thoroughly unsatisfactory, this is >> because you are hopelessly anti-scientific. Even speculative >> pseudo-science as posited in this article is more scientific than >> " folk medicine. " >> >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/health/research/09asthma.html?_r=1 & ei=5070 & emc\ =eta1 >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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