Itchy dogs - difficult cases

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thanks Phil

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi All,

 

Even for experienced holistic vets, itchy dogs are difficult cases to

treat. I do not see too many of these because I specialise more in

equine sports dysfunction (mainly musculo-skeletal cases.

 

A good western Dx (which may include examination of skin scrapings)

is essential for good success in itchy skins.

 

I use a few general principles when treating animals with AP.

 

(1) I assume that the Channels exist and that acupoints (including

extra points) are in basically similar places as in humans. I have

used GV20 (human location) and Yintang in nervous dogs. I rarely use

GB31 because I prefer GB30 and GB34 (easy to find in dogs).

 

In dogs, I place LI04 and LV03 (as Are Thoresen and most other vets

do) between MC / MT bones 2-3, rather than 1-2, because the dewclaws

are vestigeal. Are says that they are energetically atrophied.

 

(2) Whan treating castrated dogs / speyed bitches, I assume a KI Xu

in all cases and routinely treat animal Baihui (lumbosacral space) +

SP06 or KI07 + BL23 in those cases + whatever other points are

indicated by the S & Ss.

 

In many canine cases, I find no clear point sensitivities and the

S & Ss are minor or inconclusive. In THOSE cases, I use dowsing (by

pendulum) to locate best points to treat " on the day " .

 

IMO, herbal medicine is probably more effective than AP, and combines

very well with it. For best results one needs a good TCM Dx also,

because skin itch can feature in very many TCM syndromes.

 

Sagiv Ben Yakir (Israel) has been working with a few other vets using

herbal formulas applied in transdermal gels. He says that the results

are great.

 

I agree with Patricia that vaccines are overused greatly and that

multi-antigen simultaneous combinations is a fierce assault on the

immune system. IMO, routine mass vaccination is a money-spinner for

the manufacturers and those who administer the vaccines. IMO, it does

more long-term harm than good, and should be banned as national

policy in civilised states.

 

However, I do not agree with a TOTAL ban on vaccinations, esp if

there is significant local risk of life-threatening, or gravely

disfiguring diseases.

 

Best regards,

 

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Phil, the vaccines have many things that sensitize the immune system besides the

multiantigens involved. The aluminum in the vacines is resposible for converting

the patient to a highly inflamed state, the areas you see the itching, the

tailhead near the anal glands and the chewing of the four paws and face rubbing

to try and itch the eye area and ears......those areas are all highly counted

with the Langerhan cells that is where the T cells bring the atimulus at the

lymph caolescenses. Also there are a copule papers that show aluminum simply

never leaves the body so you have this constant inflammation, why we see

problems like Fibromyalgia, MS and Chronic Fatigue. Once you stick it to the

patient there is no return for life.......no matter what suppressive or

palliative treatment you use at best you are helping them live with their

disease better. The vaccines should not be a national policy in any place

civilized or not.Mad scientists creat vaccines, and they have not tested and

have no ide what they were doing, are doing to the immune system. We know now

more than ever before, the use of the medical vaccination program will be seen

for what it is, the most damaging medical assumption in the history of

man.....John Hopkins Bloomberg Scool of Public Medicine has a great site where

they published charts, vaccines did not alter and still do not the course of

disease, that hygeine and chlorinated water is what arrested infectious disease

and on their site they claim infectius disease is arrested so why are they even

giving so many vaccines?

I have contacted Ron Schultz, Jean Dodds and Rich Ford to see if there is any

because I could not find it any proof that vaccines have stoped disease even in

the animals...so long as you realize that you are trading the profile of acute

disease for chronic, you can see that you are using the vaccine to offset

natural selection but the trade off is genetic mutation and a chronically ill

patient. In the book we are completing this week, we show the ABCs of

vaccination are indeed all the diseases that we have seen since the use of

vaccines, autoimmune disease, cancder, allergy, atopy and every single day we

get even more proof that the vaccine administration is what confers the disease

to the patient, the immune response to the assault is the disease that that

particular patient expressses.

 

I have no longer afforded folks that anything we are doing is going to rid the

body of the innoculated poisons and toxins and the genetic mutations that occur,

I have resigned to the fact that palliation and supression is what we are doing,

treating the underlying emotional discordance is helpful for the patient as then

they will deal with their disease better.Medical symptoms srping forth from the

emotional component so yes, we can help but we don't cure, not this

time.Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology

 

 

 

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Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:22:22 +0000Itchy dogs - difficult cases

 

 

 

Hi All,Even for experienced holistic vets, itchy dogs are difficult cases to

treat. I do not see too many of these because I specialise more in equine sports

dysfunction (mainly musculo-skeletal cases.A good western Dx (which may include

examination of skin scrapings) is essential for good success in itchy skins.I

use a few general principles when treating animals with AP. (1) I assume that

the Channels exist and that acupoints (including extra points) are in basically

similar places as in humans. I have used GV20 (human location) and Yintang in

nervous dogs. I rarely use GB31 because I prefer GB30 and GB34 (easy to find in

dogs).In dogs, I place LI04 and LV03 (as Are Thoresen and most other vets do)

between MC / MT bones 2-3, rather than 1-2, because the dewclaws are vestigeal.

Are says that they are energetically atrophied.(2) Whan treating castrated dogs

/ speyed bitches, I assume a KI Xu in all cases and routinely treat animal

Baihui (lumbosacral space) + SP06 or KI07 + BL23 in those cases + whatever other

points are indicated by the S & Ss. In many canine cases, I find no clear point

sensitivities and the S & Ss are minor or inconclusive. In THOSE cases, I use

dowsing (by pendulum) to locate best points to treat " on the day " .IMO, herbal

medicine is probably more effective than AP, and combines very well with it. For

best results one needs a good TCM Dx also, because skin itch can feature in very

many TCM syndromes.Sagiv Ben Yakir (Israel) has been working with a few other

vets using herbal formulas applied in transdermal gels. He says that the results

are great.I agree with Patricia that vaccines are overused greatly and that

multi-antigen simultaneous combinations is a fierce assault on the immune

system. IMO, routine mass vaccination is a money-spinner for the manufacturers

and those who administer the vaccines. IMO, it does more long-term harm than

good, and should be banned as national policy in civilised states.However, I do

not agree with a TOTAL ban on vaccinations, esp if there is significant local

risk of life-threatening, or gravely disfiguring diseases. Best regards,Phil

Rogers

 

 

 

 

 

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