Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Can one of the vats help me with my dog? he is a 8 years old short hair dog. In the last several months he started itching and biting off his hair on his back. He also developed a few cutaneous cysts. He is on Advantage for flees. Any input would be great. thanks alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 My dog developed a nervous/ flea sensitive itch a few years ago. One treatment using GB 31 and Yin Tang stopped the itching for a few months. alonmarcus2003 wrote: > > Can one of the vats help me with my dog? he is a 8 years old short > hair dog. In the last several months he started itching and biting off > his hair on his back. He also developed a few cutaneous cysts. He is > on Advantage for flees. Any input would be great. > > thanks > > alon > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Thank you for that info, Ariel, I shall try it straight away - my 8yr old Tibetan/Cerrin Terrrier has started this dance a few weeks ago. Hard to tell even what is going on - but she is very vocal about it and rubs and scratches herself against anything/anytime - when " it " comes on. (Maybe once or twice a day....?) I shall report back and thank you so much Verena www.giftofhealth.com Ariel Solomon, L.Ac. wrote: > > My dog developed a nervous/ flea sensitive itch a few years ago. One > treatment using GB 31 and Yin Tang stopped the itching for a few months. > > alonmarcus2003 wrote: > > > > Can one of the vats help me with my dog? he is a 8 years old short > > hair dog. In the last several months he started itching and biting off > > his hair on his back. He also developed a few cutaneous cysts. He is > > on Advantage for flees. Any input would be great. > > > > thanks > > > > alon > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 has you dog been vaccinated? if so how much and when last?Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology : alonmarcus: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 00:13:49 +0000Dog Itch Can one of the vats help me with my dog? he is a 8 years old shorthair dog. In the last several months he started itching and biting offhis hair on his back. He also developed a few cutaneous cysts. He ison Advantage for flees. Any input would be great.thanksalon _______________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 the reason they itch is that the neurologic involvement of the immune system and the localized immune cells that are sensitized. Evil Qi is on the inside of the dog and this needs to be addressed.Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology : ariel: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:27:52 -0800Re: Dog Itch My dog developed a nervous/ flea sensitive itch a few years ago. One treatment using GB 31 and Yin Tang stopped the itching for a few months. alonmarcus2003 wrote:>> Can one of the vats help me with my dog? he is a 8 years old short> hair dog. In the last several months he started itching and biting off> his hair on his back. He also developed a few cutaneous cysts. He is> on Advantage for flees. Any input would be great.>> thanks>> alon>> _______________ Get 5 GB of storage with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_5gb_112008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 how do you locate GB31 in a dog? is yin tang same location as humans? 400 29th St. Suite 419 Oakland Ca 94609 alonmarcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 He gets the usual shots, last time was a few weeks ago when we took to vat to ask about skin. That is all i know 400 29th St. Suite 419 Oakland Ca 94609 alonmarcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Patricia How do you suggest i do that? 400 29th St. Suite 419 Oakland Ca 94609 alonmarcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Hello Alon. Ffirst of all you need a correct diagnose both in chinese and ocidental medicine . The second one is needed to get a better prognosis of the case. Generally, itch problems in dogs are related to internal wind and blood deficiency usually by spleen deficiency. Try to see the tongue and the pulse of the dog to help in the diagnosis. I usually do hemopuncture ( injection of the own animal blood in acupuncture points), and some herbal medicines deppending on the diagose. I hope this could help ) sorry for my bad english). Eduardo Lobo MS Vet, Botucatu - SP Can one of the vats help me with my dog? he is a 8 years old short hair dog. In the last several months he started itching and biting off his hair on his back. He also developed a few cutaneous cysts. He is on Advantage for flees. Any input would be great. thanks alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Well, there is your problem. " the usual shots " is malpractice. Dr. Ron Schultz advises only one set for distemper,parvo,adenovirus at 15 weeks and then none for the remainder of the dogs life. Everyone needs to help get the colorable law of rabies vaccination changed. Dr. Ron Schultz and Dr. Jean Dodd are two of a very few that are published veterinary researchers, Dr. Schultz one of three doing any challenge or immunity studies. the vaccines make the animals and the people have allergies, there is so much information about this. I am completing a book right now on vaccine damage and vaccines are very definetly the source of most of the disease we treat. the skin of the immune system carries around sensitized T cells and the aluminum in the vaccines make dogs HIGHLY allergic, it also dysregulates the immune system. As a holistic practitioner i do not advice vaccines any longer and there will continue to be much vaccine induced disease to treat, it is a poison, a toxin, evil qi. Aluminum nevers comes out. Most of the science behind the disease of vaccines in animals is available from Dr. Jean's site on Hemopet.The work i am doing is showing with over 700 cases collected in less than 2 years that vaccine induced disease is the face of our internal medicine cases. I am sorry that your veterinarian did not educate you on this information. The title of my work is " Malpractice is the Standard of Care " . We need to rewrite the books of medicine to show that since vaccinations started, the face of disease and ill health sprung forth from that. Certainly, we all have to understand that what we were conditioned to believe about vaccines being responsible for eliminating infectious disease is incorrect. I use the very work from the JAMA and the Johns hopkins Bloomberg School of medicine to illustrate that fact. Vaccines, are bad, was your dog this itchy before he got the jabs?Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology : alonmarcus: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 15:30:56 -0800Re: Dog Itch He gets the usual shots, last time was a few weeks ago when we took to vat to ask about skin. That is all i know400 29th St. Suite 419Oakland Ca 94609alonmarcus[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ Get 5 GB of storage with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_5gb_112008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 The meridians in animals are very similar. The GB channel in dogs runs down the lateral back leg along the femur. You can use proportional measurement, just like in humans, to locate where you think the point should be. I then usually palpate to find what feels like the spot. GB31 is often tender on my dog and he squirms. Yin tang is in about the same place for dogs. I think it's a great idea to do differential diagnosis on the animal- but GB 31 is a point that you can try for itching without an in-dept diagnosis. Some veterinary acupuncturists use YT frequently to help calm the animal during the treatment. My dog tends to be a " stress case, " so I thought it was a great point for him. There are a few different books you can get: I have Veterinary Acupuncture by Allen Schoen (http://www.amazon.com/Veterinary-Acupuncture-Ancient-Modern-Medicine/dp/0323009\ 45X) I haven't used it very much, so I can't really vouch for it's greatness. It has a variety of point combos for different imbalances (basically the same as human acupuncture) and some information on the location of the points and how to administer acupuncture. Four Paws Five Directions gives you a very simple (when I say simple, I mean simple- no detailed diagnosis here) guide to TCM diagnosis in animals and shows the basic pathways of the meridians. It's very basic, but I really like it. Vaccines my indeed cause itching, but in the case of my dog, the itch started with a few fleas and the became a nervous habit prolonged by continually irritating his skin. Even after I got rid of the fleas he continued to scratch. I tried changing his diet, but that did not help. I gave him a total of three treatments over about a 6 month period and the scratching hasn't come back. Judging from his personality, he tends toward liver/ gallbladder imbalance. I would imagine a lot of dogs might have spleen related skin problems. Either way, I think GB 31 and YT are reasonable points to try. Ariel marcus wrote: > > how do you locate GB31 in a dog? is yin tang same location as humans? > > > 400 29th St. Suite 419 > Oakland Ca 94609 > > > > alonmarcus <alonmarcus%40wans.net> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 So what do i do now after the vaccines. My wife thinks he only got rabies since he was a puppy. 400 29th St. Suite 419 Oakland Ca 94609 alonmarcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 thanks i will needle him 400 29th St. Suite 419 Oakland Ca 94609 alonmarcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 andrea fochios lac, dvm in asheville nc suggests applying black tea bags to the affected area. i cannot provide details regarding the method of application. Chinese Medicine On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 7:13 PM, alonmarcus2003 <alonmarcus wrote: > Can one of the vats help me with my dog? he is a 8 years old short > hair dog. In the last several months he started itching and biting off > his hair on his back. He also developed a few cutaneous cysts. He is > on Advantage for flees. Any input would be great. > > thanks > > alon > > > -- Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist Available at Asheville Center for , or from the following suppliers: Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=categories & category=14 & vendor= & \ product=5554 & pg= Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 The rabies which is colorable law, senseless mandates for vaccines that will not protect further and do have adjuvant (aluminum hydroxide) in them.........I am not getting another companion animal until I won't be forced to mutate its DNA, inject disease.....there isn't anything I know that can remove the aluminum nor take care of this problem without palliation and supression. A frese diet of organic raw foods is the best way to detox your animal. Avoiding vaccines, getting the titer instead of any, really bad set backs occur whenever a vaccine is administered and we all know it, you have to demand that needless and dangerous vaccines are not administered. Vaccines due cause blood defeceincy, the do this through liver yin depletion and Dr. Huisheng Xie of Jing Tand Herbal ad the Chi Institute that trains vets in TCVM...he has formulas of herbs that help, I use acupuncture to help.......but what is happening isn palliation and supression. I sure hope CHina gets off the USA and WHO bandwagon for vaccines, they are now almost exclusively producing the influenza vaccines.........and to diminish the lack of third party testing for vaccine contamination, I really hate to see a country that can not manage to make nonlethal dog food making the worlds influenza vaccines. Chna is marketing these vaccines to their people now, so wait and see what happens to them for jumping in on medical superstition, on the assumption that vaccines have value in wellness and health.Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology : alonmarcus: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:50:36 -0800Re: Dog Itch So what do i do now after the vaccines. My wife thinks he only got rabies since he was a puppy.400 29th St. Suite 419Oakland Ca 94609alonmarcus[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_1120\ 08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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