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Tim,

Thanks for the reminder.

 

A question about Jason Robertson's book about Wang Ju-yi:

Are there discussions on acupuncture needling technique in the text?

A teacher of mine is a student of Dr. Wang.

The palpation is effective, but the needling is almost of a surgical

precision.

Is this discussed in the book?

 

Thanks.

K.

 

 

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Tim Sharpe <listserve wrote:

 

> Received this in the mail today. Shop online at Borders.com and get 40%

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> An example of a great purchase would be: Jason Robertson's " Applied Channel

> Theory in : Wang Ju-yi's Lectures on Channel Therapeutics " .

> Retails for $75, but only $45 with free shipping in US. This book has a

> solid 5/5 rating in Amazon reader reviews, and has been well received by

> the

> community at large as many here well know.

>

>

> http://www.borders.com/online/store/SearchResults?type=1 & contrib=Jason+D.+Ro

> bertson

>

> -Tim Sharpe

>

>

>

 

 

 

--

aka Mu bong Lim

Father of Bhakti

 

The Four Reliances:

Do not rely upon the individual, but rely upon the teaching.

As far as teachings go, do not rely upon the words alone, but rely upon the

meaning that underlies them.

Regarding the meaning, do not rely upon the provisional meaning alone, but

rely upon the definitive meaning.

And regarding the definitive meaning, do not rely upon ordinary

consciousness, but rely upon wisdom awareness.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Received this in the mail today. Shop online at Borders.com and get 40% off

one book purchase >$20US this weekend only. Coupon code SAY5421X. there's

a small chance you may need to be a Border's rewards customer, but it's free

to join if that's the case.

 

An example of a great purchase would be: Jason Robertson's " Applied Channel

Theory in : Wang Ju-yi's Lectures on Channel Therapeutics " .

Retails for $75, but only $45 with free shipping in US. This book has a

solid 5/5 rating in Amazon reader reviews, and has been well received by the

community at large as many here well know.

 

http://www.borders.com/online/store/SearchResults?type=1 & contrib=Jason+D.+Ro

bertson

 

-Tim Sharpe

[Guest guest]

Tim,

Thanks for the reminder.

 

A question about Jason Robertson's book about Wang Ju-yi:

Are there discussions on acupuncture needling technique in the text?

A teacher of mine is a student of Dr. Wang.

The palpation is effective, but the needling is almost of a surgical

precision.

Is this discussed in the book?

 

Thanks.

K.

 

 

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Tim Sharpe <listserve wrote:

 

> Received this in the mail today. Shop online at Borders.com and get 40%

> off

> one book purchase >$20US this weekend only. Coupon code SAY5421X. there's

> a small chance you may need to be a Border's rewards customer, but it's

> free

> to join if that's the case.

>

> An example of a great purchase would be: Jason Robertson's " Applied Channel

> Theory in : Wang Ju-yi's Lectures on Channel Therapeutics " .

> Retails for $75, but only $45 with free shipping in US. This book has a

> solid 5/5 rating in Amazon reader reviews, and has been well received by

> the

> community at large as many here well know.

>

>

> http://www.borders.com/online/store/SearchResults?type=1 & contrib=Jason+D.+Ro

> bertson

>

> -Tim Sharpe

>

>

>

 

 

 

--

aka Mu bong Lim

Father of Bhakti

 

The Four Reliances:

Do not rely upon the individual, but rely upon the teaching.

As far as teachings go, do not rely upon the words alone, but rely upon the

meaning that underlies them.

Regarding the meaning, do not rely upon the provisional meaning alone, but

rely upon the definitive meaning.

And regarding the definitive meaning, do not rely upon ordinary

consciousness, but rely upon wisdom awareness.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Kokko,

 

Chapter 19 of the book has a lovely (though very short) discussion on Dr.

Wang's " modern interpretation " of classical needling techniques. Including

Q & A which is inspiring and worth a read.

 

Wang Ju Yi and Jason Roberts came together to teach us at the Five Branches

DAOM. What a fun, lively and wonderful class that was! Dr. Wang told many

stories of how he came to develop precise locations of points (or altogether

different location vs. what we learn from CAM) from channel palpation. He

had a very practical and inquisitive approach. You could tell that he turned

each one of the classical ideas over and over again, constantly questioning

and exploring, verifying things through experience and channel palpation.

And having Jason to translate and supplement the lecture was such a gift!

 

From their lecture and demos, I came away with the impression is that Dr.

Wang's surgical precision comes largely from experience of palpating

thousands upon thousands of channels. When one spends decades feeling and

studying the nodules, valleys, nooks and crannies of every patient's

channels, it seems the precision of point location and needling depth is a

natural result. My imagination is that this is a skill that comes mainly

from experience and not from book learning. But regardless, I heartily

agree that this book is an excellent value!!

 

~edith

 

 

 

--

Edith Chan, L.Ac.

Doctoral Fellow

Ph: 415.298.5324

www.EdithChanAcupuncture.com

 

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:33 AM, <johnkokko wrote:

 

> Tim,

> Thanks for the reminder.

>

> A question about Jason Robertson's book about Wang Ju-yi:

> Are there discussions on acupuncture needling technique in the text?

> A teacher of mine is a student of Dr. Wang.

> The palpation is effective, but the needling is almost of a surgical

> precision.

> Is this discussed in the book?

>

> Thanks.

> K.

>

> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Tim Sharpe

<listserve<listserve%40doctortim.net>>

> wrote:

>

> > Received this in the mail today. Shop online at Borders.com and get 40%

> > off

> > one book purchase >$20US this weekend only. Coupon code SAY5421X. there's

> > a small chance you may need to be a Border's rewards customer, but it's

> > free

> > to join if that's the case.

> >

> > An example of a great purchase would be: Jason Robertson's " Applied

> Channel

> > Theory in : Wang Ju-yi's Lectures on Channel

> Therapeutics " .

> > Retails for $75, but only $45 with free shipping in US. This book has a

> > solid 5/5 rating in Amazon reader reviews, and has been well received by

> > the

> > community at large as many here well know.

> >

> >

> >

> http://www.borders.com/online/store/SearchResults?type=1 & contrib=Jason+D.+Ro

> > bertson

> >

> > -Tim Sharpe

> >

> >

> >

>

> --

> aka Mu bong Lim

> Father of Bhakti

>

> The Four Reliances:

> Do not rely upon the individual, but rely upon the teaching.

> As far as teachings go, do not rely upon the words alone, but rely upon the

> meaning that underlies them.

> Regarding the meaning, do not rely upon the provisional meaning alone, but

> rely upon the definitive meaning.

> And regarding the definitive meaning, do not rely upon ordinary

> consciousness, but rely upon wisdom awareness.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tim and John-

 

John wrote:

 

A question about Jason Robertson's book about Wang Ju-yi:

Are there discussions on acupuncture needling technique in the text?

A teacher of mine is a student of Dr. Wang.The palpation is effective, but the

needling is almost of a surgicalprecision.Is this discussed in the book?

 

Thanks for the interest in the book.  In some ways, the entire text is about

technique.  Namely, refining palpatory technique will improve point location-

thus helping one to needle with the precision you mention. A favoritte classical

insight on this note comes from a section at the end of the first chapter of the

Divine Pivot:

 

“…[Amongst] the intersections of [these] divisions, there are 365 meetings

[points]. The knowledge of their importance can be spoken in [just] a few words.

[Nevertheless,] to be ignorant of their importance is to invite endless

confusion. The divisions are where the spirit qi moves, exits and enters. They

are not [the same as] skin, flesh, sinews and bones.”

The points are in the spaces.  Find the empty space next to all of the

structures and that is where the needle goes.  This space is often quite small.

 

There are two chapters specifically on needle technique in the book. One chapter

explores some selected ideas on the subject from the Classic of Difficulties

while another explores Dr. Wang's own approach to the patient encounter.

 

Respectfully,

 

Jason Robertson