Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I need help with a patient of mine. I need to choose a formula for him he does not mind taking granules. He is male 60 years old. He used to do a lot of alcohol drinking and drugs and a lot of sex. He quit drinking and drugs. He does a lot of exercise and has tendency to addiction. His new addiction is exercise. His main problem is frequent night urination it is getting better though he used to get up 6-7 times a night but now only 3-4. It still disturbs his sleep a lot. He has cloudy urination and dribbling of urine. He has thinks he has enlarged prostate but no definite diagnosis since he has not been to a doctor MD in 20 years. He has no pain or burning with urination and that is good.He is irritable and easily gets angry. Other problem that during sex he cann't hold erection very long. That is all that I know about his sexual health. He also has nightmares. Tongue: first time he came he had swollen with teethmarks. Second time he had: yellow greasy coating a lot of it more in the middle but really all over the tongue so I thought that he has damp heat in lower jiao. Last time I have seen him: he does not have greasy yellow coating anymore. Pulse: last time i seen him was very weak and thin I need help with formula. I have given him Rabdosia Prostate Formula from golden flower it is more for prostate cancer with heat signs. Now I need to help him with his frequent urination at night. So I thought of giving him granules since he does not mind. I found the formula that has no name for that the herbs are: YI Zi Ren, Wu Yao, Shan Yao, Sang Piao Xiao, Wu Wei Zi, Shan Zhu Yu, Bu GU Zhi, it is said use it with salt and grain based liquor I wander how it will work without it. Another herb that is useful is Tu Si zi it is for freq. urine, dribbling or turbid urine. The points that I have used are yintang, 3 jiaos, Ren 3 and 4, Sp 6, Sp 9. I think he has kidney qi and yang deficiency. I would alternate front and back treatment using also KI 23, Du4 and UB 52. Should I also add moxa? His chief complain is frequent cloudy urination at night an dribbling. Thank you for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Hi, Yuliya: Frequent urination can be caused by several different patterns. Based on your description, you might want to consider binding depression of liver qi. Can you please tell us the time sequence of how often you saw this patient? How much time passed between visits? Regards, Jack --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Yuliya Goldberg <ygold77 wrote: Yuliya Goldberg <ygold77 frequent night urination Chinese Traditional Medicine Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 9:15 PM I need help with a patient of mine. I need to choose a formula for him he does not mind taking granules. He is male 60 years old. He used to do a lot of alcohol drinking and drugs and a lot of sex. He quit drinking and drugs. He does a lot of exercise and has tendency to addiction. His new addiction is exercise. His main problem is frequent night urination it is getting better though he used to get up 6-7 times a night but now only 3-4. It still disturbs his sleep a lot. He has cloudy urination and dribbling of urine. He has thinks he has enlarged prostate but no definite diagnosis since he has not been to a doctor MD in 20 years. He has no pain or burning with urination and that is good.He is irritable and easily gets angry. Other problem that during sex he cann't hold erection very long. That is all that I know about his sexual health. He also has nightmares. Tongue: first time he came he had swollen with teethmarks. Second time he had: yellow greasy coating a lot of it more in the middle but really all over the tongue so I thought that he has damp heat in lower jiao. Last time I have seen him: he does not have greasy yellow coating anymore. Pulse: last time i seen him was very weak and thin I need help with formula. I have given him Rabdosia Prostate Formula from golden flower it is more for prostate cancer with heat signs. Now I need to help him with his frequent urination at night. So I thought of giving him granules since he does not mind. I found the formula that has no name for that the herbs are: YI Zi Ren, Wu Yao, Shan Yao, Sang Piao Xiao, Wu Wei Zi, Shan Zhu Yu, Bu GU Zhi, it is said use it with salt and grain based liquor I wander how it will work without it. Another herb that is useful is Tu Si zi it is for freq. urine, dribbling or turbid urine. The points that I have used are yintang, 3 jiaos, Ren 3 and 4, Sp 6, Sp 9. I think he has kidney qi and yang deficiency. I would alternate front and back treatment using also KI 23, Du4 and UB 52. Should I also add moxa? His chief complain is frequent cloudy urination at night an dribbling. Thank you for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Thank you for your reply. I have seen him every week or every 10 days for about 4 treatments. I think I should tell him to come 2 or 3 times a week. Yuliya --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy wrote: > Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy > Re: frequent night urination > Chinese Medicine > Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 10:31 PM > Hi, Yuliya: > > Frequent urination can be caused by several different > patterns. Based on your description, you might want to > consider binding depression of liver qi. > > Can you please tell us the time sequence of how often you > saw this patient? How much time passed between visits? > > Regards, Jack > > > --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Yuliya Goldberg > <ygold77 wrote: > > Yuliya Goldberg <ygold77 > frequent night urination > Chinese Traditional Medicine > Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 9:15 PM I need help with a patient of mine. I need to choose a > formula for him > he does not mind > taking granules. > > He is male 60 years old. He used to do a > lot of alcohol drinking and drugs and a lot of sex. He quit > drinking and drugs. He does a lot > of exercise and has tendency to addiction. His new > addiction is > exercise. His main problem is frequent night urination it > is getting > better though he used to get up 6-7 times a night but now > only 3-4. It still disturbs his sleep a lot. He has cloudy > urination > and dribbling of urine. > He has thinks he has enlarged prostate but no definite > diagnosis since > he has not been to a doctor MD in 20 years. He has no pain > or burning > with urination and that is good.He is irritable and easily > gets angry. > Other problem that during sex he cann't hold erection > very long. That > is all that I know about his sexual health. He also has > nightmares. > Tongue: first time he came he had swollen with teethmarks. > Second time he had: yellow greasy coating a lot of it more > in the > middle but really all over the tongue so I thought that he > has damp > heat in lower jiao. > Last time I have seen him: he does not have greasy yellow > coating anymore. > Pulse: last time i seen him was very weak and thin > I need help with formula. I have given him Rabdosia > Prostate Formula > from golden flower it is more for prostate cancer with heat > signs. Now > I need to help him with his frequent urination at night. So > I thought > of giving him granules since he does not mind. > I found the formula that has no name for that the herbs > are: > YI Zi Ren, Wu Yao, Shan Yao, Sang Piao Xiao, Wu Wei Zi, > Shan Zhu Yu, Bu GU Zhi, > it is said use it with salt and grain based liquor I wander > how it > will work without it. > Another herb that is useful is Tu Si zi it is for freq. > urine, > dribbling or turbid urine. > > The points that I have used are yintang, 3 jiaos, Ren 3 and > 4, Sp 6, Sp 9. > I think he has kidney qi and yang deficiency. I would > alternate front > and back treatment > using also KI 23, Du4 and UB 52. > Should I also add moxa? > > His chief complain is frequent cloudy urination at night an > dribbling. > > Thank you for your help. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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