Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Phil, could it be qian Á° fengshi, qian meaning anterior, front? Tom Verhaeghe Stationsplein 59 8770 Ingelmunster www.chinese-geneeskunde.be _____ Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of Phil Rogers donderdag 23 oktober 2008 17:54 Pa-l ; PVA-L ; Chinese Medicine Cc: Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine NEW point on the leg: Jianfengshi / Chienfengshih Hi All, I have mislaid / lost my personal copy of the booklet " Newest illustrations of the AP points (1973). by Medicine & Health Publishing Co., Hong Kong, 100 pp. If YOU have a copy: (1) Could you please check the details for the NEW point Jian-feng- shi / Chien-feng-shih (on the leg) and email them to me? (2) I also need the HANZI character for the first syllable - " Jian " / Chien " - in that point. [The last 2 characters (Feng-Shi) are the same as in GB31]. I can find no trace of the details on WWW, except for my own page at http://tinyurl. <http://tinyurl.com/6nez2e> com/6nez2e My listing there says: Jianfengshi* Behind GB31 (Wind Market) ? NL23 2' ant to GB31- Fengshi, which is at post edge of femur, where finger 3 touches side of thigh when arms at sides Chienfengshih There must be an error in that listing; JIAN cannot mean Behind (because the point is BEFORE (ant to) GB31. (3) Would you be willing to lend me your copy for a few weeks? Many thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 probably Qian2feng1shi4 meeaning *before wind market* see this character at: http://us.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php?page=worddictbasic & wdqb=%E5%89% 8D & wdrst=0 & wdeac=1 Also, the shanghai text has NLE-23 as Maibu a few inches away on the anterior thigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Hi All, I have mislaid / lost my personal copy of the booklet " Newest illustrations of the AP points (1973). by Medicine & Health Publishing Co., Hong Kong, 100 pp. If YOU have a copy: (1) Could you please check the details for the NEW point Jian-feng- shi / Chien-feng-shih (on the leg) and email them to me? (2) I also need the HANZI character for the first syllable - " Jian " / Chien " - in that point. [The last 2 characters (Feng-Shi) are the same as in GB31]. I can find no trace of the details on WWW, except for my own page at http://tinyurl.com/6nez2e My listing there says: Jianfengshi* Behind GB31 (Wind Market) ? NL23 2' ant to GB31- Fengshi, which is at post edge of femur, where finger 3 touches side of thigh when arms at sides Chienfengshih There must be an error in that listing; JIAN cannot mean Behind (because the point is BEFORE (ant to) GB31. (3) Would you be willing to lend me your copy for a few weeks? Many thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Hi All, & Tom & I wrote: > ... My listing there says: Jianfengshi* Behind GB31 (Wind Market) ? > NL23 2' ant to GB31- Fengshi, which is at post edge of femur, where > finger 3 touches side of thigh when arms at sides Chienfengshih There > must be an error in that listing; JIAN cannot mean Behind (because the > point is BEFORE (ant to) GB31. Tom replied: > Phil, could it be qian Á° fengshi, qian meaning anterior, front? JReid replied > ...probably Qian2feng1shi4 meaning *before wind market* see this > character at ... Many thanks. There is a point on WWW with the Hanzi characters for Qianfengshi but there are few useful data online on the point. All that I can find is: Qianfengshi Before Wind Market [GB31] NL23 2 " ant to GB31- Fengshi, which is at post edge of femur, where finger 3 touches side of thigh when arms at sides polio; paraplegia; hemiplegia; for limbs~ lower palsy / paralysis, cannot lift leg, aches & pains, use Qianfengshi + Qianjinxue If you have more on that point, or have a copy of booklet " Newest illustrations of the AP points " (1973). by Medicine & Health Publishing Co., Hong Kong, 100 pp., please post the data. Unless I made a transcription mistake, the point is listed there as Jian-feng- shi / Chien-feng-shih. JReid also wrote: > ...Also, the shanghai text has NLE-23 as Maibu a few inches away on the > anterior thigh. You are correct. My code for Jian-feng-shi (NL23) was personal, given in the late 1970s when I had access to little info on New & Strange Points. It bears no relationship to the Shanghai codes, which I have now. My (sparce) notes on Maibu are: Maibu [stride / Step Forward] NL24 / N-LE23 / Ex-LE14: on ant-lat thigh, on lat edge of rectus femoris & vastus lateralis ms, 2-2.5 " " below ST31 / 2.5 " below hollow just below ant sup iliac spine on lat side of sartorius m w leg flexed; Needle Perp 0.8-2 " ; MOXA OK ; Actions: Move Foot Forwards; Free Channel Bi; Indications: polio / polio sequel; limbs~ lower paralysis; hemiplegia; Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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