Guest guest Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 phil: this is helpful: esp the suggestion of sangbaipi as a sub herb. with appreciation, kath On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:25 PM, < wrote: > Hi Kath, Z´ev & All, > > kath wrote: > > my new world press edition of the jin gui lists cortex prunus > > armeniacae as the final herb for running piglet (bentun) decoction > > (clause 8-3). it doesn't give the pin yin, and i can't find it in > > bensky's materia medica. does anyone know the pinyin, what herb is this > > and what are it's properties? thanks, > > Z'ev replied: > > It is li gen pi/plum root bark/pruni salicinae radicis cortex. Li gen > > pi is bitter and cold, and downbears ben tun qi/running piglet qi. > > See section on Bentun Tang-Running Piglet Dec in Acupuncture & > Moxibustion Formulas & Treatments by CHENG Dan-An at: > http://tinyurl.com/46hyzb > > Bob Flaws [ http://tinyurl.com/4m3pbo ] says that although Cortex > Radicis Pruni (Li Gen Pi) is one of the main medicinals of Ben Tun > Tang, it is difficult to find. Therefore, Dr. Zhang used Sang Bai Pi > to downbear the qi and move water. > > There are data on the formula at > http://tinyurl.com/4f2fun > http://tinyurl.com/3n9j6t > > Summary: > > BENTUN TANG - Running Piglet Dec [bentun Tang differs markedly from > Bentun Wan, though both are used to Tx Bentun Pattern] > > FORMULA CLASS: Rectify Qi; Move Qi; Descend Qi Uprising > > INGREDIENTS: Inclusion Rates (Mean & Range, %) in 3 separate formulas > were: > Gegen / Shenggegen 18.4 (16.7-20.0) [Clear Fire & Calm LV]; > Huangqin 8.5 (7.4-10.0) [Clear Fire & Calm LV]; > Chuanxiong / Xiongqiong 9.7 (8.0-11.1) [Nourish Xue & Rectify LV Qi]; > Danggui 8.5 (7.4-10.0) [Nourish Xue & Rectify LV Qi]; > Banxia 14.7 (13.3-16.1) [Rectify ST & Descend Qi Uprising]; > Shengjiang 14.7 (13.3-16.1) [Rectify ST & Descend Qi Uprising]; > Ligenbaipi / Ligenpi / Ganligenbaipi 9.7 (8.0-11.1) [Rectify ST & > Descend Qi Uprising; special Hb for Bentun Pattern]; > Baishao / Shaoyao 8.5 (7.4-10.0) [Ease Pain & other S & Ss of Bentun > Pattern]; > Gancao 7.3 (6.7-8.0) [Ease Pain & other S & Ss of Bentun Pattern]; > > if Ligenpi is unavailable, Sangbaipi may be used instead; 1 formula > omits Gancao & adds Shengdi at same rate as Banxia; Dec circa ??90g > of formula in Water; simmer down to circa 25% of original volume; > Remove dregs; divide into 4 parts & drink 1 part TID + once at night; > > Nourish Xue; Calm LV, Rectify ST; Descend Qi Uprising; > > INDICATIONS: Bentun Pattern is dt Fire PF from LV Qi Accumulation / > LV Qizhi; it manifests as a feeling of Running Piglet Qi Uprushing to > chest (Bentun Qi Shangchong Xiong), w abdomen pain & alternating > chills & fever (Wanglai Hanre); Bentun Pattern is common in cancers > of LV & pancreas; there are 5 types of Accumulations / Masses / > tumours (Ji): Bentun relates to KI Ji but that does not necessarily > mean KI cancer; it is dt Qizhi in chest / hypogastrium causing > Oppression in area under HT (Xinxia), w sensation like a piglet > running in all directions (esp upward), violent pain in chest & > dyspnoea +/- loin pain; is an emotional upset involving fear / > fright; some patients feel as if dying; > > Bentun has 2 Patterns: > > (1) LV Qizhi / linked to Heat Uprising w fever sensations; for Heat > signs, use Bentun Tang +/- CV04, CV06, SP06, LV03; CHENG Dan-An > suggests moxa at CV03, CV04, CV06, LV13, LV14; > > (2) KI Block dt Yin Cold (fear damages KI); for Cold signs use Guizhi > Jia Gui Tang / Fuling Guizhi Gancao Dazao Tang for HT Water > Accumulation (fright damages HT) +/- SP06, SP09, CV09, GV04, BL23; > > Bentun also can be dt disease of Taiyang (BL-SI) passing to Shaoyin > (HT-KI) +/- HT-KI Yangxu [Water & Cold Move to Chongmai & block HT]; > finally, fright / mental upset cause LV Qizhi that travels via > Chongmai causing chest tightness > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > BENTUN WAN - Running Piglet Pill [bentun Wan differs markedly from > Bentun Tang, though both are used to Tx Bentun Pattern] > > FORMULA CLASS: Rectify Qi; Move Qi; Descend Qi Uprising > > INGREDIENTS: Inclusion Rates (Mean & Range, %) in 3 separate formulas > (incl Bensky´s) were: > Fuling 24.8 (24.2-25.6); > Juhe 22.8 (19.9-24.2); > Chuanlianzi 16.4 (16.1-17.0); > Lizhihe 13.2 (12.9-13.6); > Muxiang 11.4 (11.1-11.9); > Xiaohuixiang 11.4 (11.1-11.9); > > Calm LV; Rectify Qi; Move Qi; Descend Qi Uprising; Warm Yang; > Disperse Cold; > > INDICATIONS: Running piglet disorder dt Cold in Lower Burner which > affects LV, causing Qi Uprising; S & Ss (see Bentun Tang also): body > Cold, limbs Cold, periumbilical palpitations w Qi Upsurge from > abdomen to sternum as patient becomes unnerved; > T: pale w F greasy-white; > P: Tight-Wiry (Jin Xian); > Bob Flaws suggests AP at LV03, CV17, PC06, SP04; > > A Chinese version of Bentun Wan at http://www.zhong- > yao.net/zyfj/B/200802/13126.html differs greatly from this; it has: > Houpo 21g; Huanglian 15g; Kulian 9g; Baifuling 6g; Zexie 6g; > Shichangpu 6g; Xuanhu 4.5g; Quanxie 3g; Fuzi 3g; Duhuo 3g; Chuanwutou > (Pao) 1.5g; Dingxiang 1.5g; Badoushuang 1.2g; Rougui 0.6g; > > Indications: KI Ji w abdomen~ lower pain, pain / oppression under HT > w Qi Upsurge, gasping Counterflow (Chuanni), bone atrophy (Guwei), > breathlessness (Shaoqi); also helps male Interior Bind 7 Hernias > (Nanzi Neijie Qishan) & female lumps & gatherings w leucorrhoea > (Furen Jiaju Daixia) / problems of Daimai; > > Best regards, > > > -- Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist Available at Asheville Center for , or from the following suppliers: Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=categories & category=14 & vendor= & \ product=5554 & pg= Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 Hi Kath, Z´ev & All, kath wrote: > my new world press edition of the jin gui lists cortex prunus > armeniacae as the final herb for running piglet (bentun) decoction > (clause 8-3). it doesn't give the pin yin, and i can't find it in > bensky's materia medica. does anyone know the pinyin, what herb is this > and what are it's properties? thanks, Z'ev replied: > It is li gen pi/plum root bark/pruni salicinae radicis cortex. Li gen > pi is bitter and cold, and downbears ben tun qi/running piglet qi. See section on Bentun Tang-Running Piglet Dec in Acupuncture & Moxibustion Formulas & Treatments by CHENG Dan-An at: http://tinyurl.com/46hyzb Bob Flaws [ http://tinyurl.com/4m3pbo ] says that although Cortex Radicis Pruni (Li Gen Pi) is one of the main medicinals of Ben Tun Tang, it is difficult to find. Therefore, Dr. Zhang used Sang Bai Pi to downbear the qi and move water. There are data on the formula at http://tinyurl.com/4f2fun http://tinyurl.com/3n9j6t Summary: BENTUN TANG - Running Piglet Dec [bentun Tang differs markedly from Bentun Wan, though both are used to Tx Bentun Pattern] FORMULA CLASS: Rectify Qi; Move Qi; Descend Qi Uprising INGREDIENTS: Inclusion Rates (Mean & Range, %) in 3 separate formulas were: Gegen / Shenggegen 18.4 (16.7-20.0) [Clear Fire & Calm LV]; Huangqin 8.5 (7.4-10.0) [Clear Fire & Calm LV]; Chuanxiong / Xiongqiong 9.7 (8.0-11.1) [Nourish Xue & Rectify LV Qi]; Danggui 8.5 (7.4-10.0) [Nourish Xue & Rectify LV Qi]; Banxia 14.7 (13.3-16.1) [Rectify ST & Descend Qi Uprising]; Shengjiang 14.7 (13.3-16.1) [Rectify ST & Descend Qi Uprising]; Ligenbaipi / Ligenpi / Ganligenbaipi 9.7 (8.0-11.1) [Rectify ST & Descend Qi Uprising; special Hb for Bentun Pattern]; Baishao / Shaoyao 8.5 (7.4-10.0) [Ease Pain & other S & Ss of Bentun Pattern]; Gancao 7.3 (6.7-8.0) [Ease Pain & other S & Ss of Bentun Pattern]; if Ligenpi is unavailable, Sangbaipi may be used instead; 1 formula omits Gancao & adds Shengdi at same rate as Banxia; Dec circa ??90g of formula in Water; simmer down to circa 25% of original volume; Remove dregs; divide into 4 parts & drink 1 part TID + once at night; Nourish Xue; Calm LV, Rectify ST; Descend Qi Uprising; INDICATIONS: Bentun Pattern is dt Fire PF from LV Qi Accumulation / LV Qizhi; it manifests as a feeling of Running Piglet Qi Uprushing to chest (Bentun Qi Shangchong Xiong), w abdomen pain & alternating chills & fever (Wanglai Hanre); Bentun Pattern is common in cancers of LV & pancreas; there are 5 types of Accumulations / Masses / tumours (Ji): Bentun relates to KI Ji but that does not necessarily mean KI cancer; it is dt Qizhi in chest / hypogastrium causing Oppression in area under HT (Xinxia), w sensation like a piglet running in all directions (esp upward), violent pain in chest & dyspnoea +/- loin pain; is an emotional upset involving fear / fright; some patients feel as if dying; Bentun has 2 Patterns: (1) LV Qizhi / linked to Heat Uprising w fever sensations; for Heat signs, use Bentun Tang +/- CV04, CV06, SP06, LV03; CHENG Dan-An suggests moxa at CV03, CV04, CV06, LV13, LV14; (2) KI Block dt Yin Cold (fear damages KI); for Cold signs use Guizhi Jia Gui Tang / Fuling Guizhi Gancao Dazao Tang for HT Water Accumulation (fright damages HT) +/- SP06, SP09, CV09, GV04, BL23; Bentun also can be dt disease of Taiyang (BL-SI) passing to Shaoyin (HT-KI) +/- HT-KI Yangxu [Water & Cold Move to Chongmai & block HT]; finally, fright / mental upset cause LV Qizhi that travels via Chongmai causing chest tightness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BENTUN WAN - Running Piglet Pill [bentun Wan differs markedly from Bentun Tang, though both are used to Tx Bentun Pattern] FORMULA CLASS: Rectify Qi; Move Qi; Descend Qi Uprising INGREDIENTS: Inclusion Rates (Mean & Range, %) in 3 separate formulas (incl Bensky´s) were: Fuling 24.8 (24.2-25.6); Juhe 22.8 (19.9-24.2); Chuanlianzi 16.4 (16.1-17.0); Lizhihe 13.2 (12.9-13.6); Muxiang 11.4 (11.1-11.9); Xiaohuixiang 11.4 (11.1-11.9); Calm LV; Rectify Qi; Move Qi; Descend Qi Uprising; Warm Yang; Disperse Cold; INDICATIONS: Running piglet disorder dt Cold in Lower Burner which affects LV, causing Qi Uprising; S & Ss (see Bentun Tang also): body Cold, limbs Cold, periumbilical palpitations w Qi Upsurge from abdomen to sternum as patient becomes unnerved; T: pale w F greasy-white; P: Tight-Wiry (Jin Xian); Bob Flaws suggests AP at LV03, CV17, PC06, SP04; A Chinese version of Bentun Wan at http://www.zhong- yao.net/zyfj/B/200802/13126.html differs greatly from this; it has: Houpo 21g; Huanglian 15g; Kulian 9g; Baifuling 6g; Zexie 6g; Shichangpu 6g; Xuanhu 4.5g; Quanxie 3g; Fuzi 3g; Duhuo 3g; Chuanwutou (Pao) 1.5g; Dingxiang 1.5g; Badoushuang 1.2g; Rougui 0.6g; Indications: KI Ji w abdomen~ lower pain, pain / oppression under HT w Qi Upsurge, gasping Counterflow (Chuanni), bone atrophy (Guwei), breathlessness (Shaoqi); also helps male Interior Bind 7 Hernias (Nanzi Neijie Qishan) & female lumps & gatherings w leucorrhoea (Furen Jiaju Daixia) / problems of Daimai; Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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