Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Anyone know if there is a for Dr. Tan's stuff? I am already aware of the forum on his webpage and am looking for something more. I've taken his 123 and global balance and have seen some amazing results thanks ?Beth Grubb Licensed Acupuncturist www.bethgrubb.com beth 410-591-2644 PCOM Alumni <alumni Cc: TCM List <Chinese Traditional Medicine > Mon, 18 Aug 2008 9:50 pm Treatment Discounts: no can do I had an interesting conversation with Robert Kientz who teaches the NCCAOM Ethics class about giving discounts. (Robert Keintz, btw, is the former pres & dean of curriculum at the phoenix college of acu. he was also an instrumental player in writing the practice act when AZ obtained licensure). On the issue of giving patients discounts: basically we cannot do this. commonly discounts are offered to a select group of people: eg. medicaid patients, seniors, students, your favorite club, blue cross patients, sliding scale. the reason we can't do this is that it's considered discriminatory against those who don't fall into the select group (regardless of whether or not it's offered for altruist reasons). this is a mestemeaner (sp?) offense. if insurance is involved so that insurance patients don't qualify for the discount (thus billing the insur co a higher rate than the cash patient), it becomes a felony. (a time of service discount would be ok, so long as everyone who pay at the time of service gets it, and its a reasonable discount: 25%). this means that the sliding scale fees offered by community acupuncture clinics and others are illegal. you have to set one flat rate that applies to everyone. you can offer a coupon for x amount off, so long as everyone is informed about the offer so that they may all take advantage of the discount. ($10 off the initial visit in September. you have to offer it to all new patients). you can offer a discount on a particular day or time: monday mornings are 10% off. again, you have to offer it to all your patients. if you want to offer a lower price to a particular population, you need a separate location: $45tx at x,y, z clinic. again, anyone who comes to that location gets the $45 tx. you would need to be able to show that the lower overhead at location B enables you to offer the tx at the lower rate: the location across town is a bare bones setting in a low rent district, with fewer amenities and staffing needs. another commonly used but illegal practice is pkg tx: get 10 tx for $500, this would normally be $700, and paid in adv gift certificates. the reason is accepting payment in adv of service constitutes insurance, and only insurance cos are licensed to do this. so a patient cannot pay on monday for the tx s/he will receive on friday. payment must be made after the tx is received, not prior to. complaints about these practices would be directed to the state atty generals office, the lic. boards, state orgs and nccaom. -- Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist Available at Asheville Center for , or web order at: Kamwo Herbal Pharmacy: NY - Chinatown https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 Golden Needle Acupuncture, Herbal & Medical Supply - Candler, NC http://www.goldenneedleonline.com/index.php?page=categories & category=14 & vendor= & \ product=5554 & pg= Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com <http://www.acupunctureasheville.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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