Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I have been trying to convince DH of that for years! I gave him some liver cleanse tea the other night, and he wanted a second mug of it. Within 30 minutes, he felt sick to his stomach. I didn't tell him he was detoxing like mad, But I will let him only have 1 cup at a time from now on. Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California Check out our SALE PAGE at www.bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenoughhobbysale.html A day without Bill Barnhill is like a day without sunshine! goatclearing http://coloredboers.home.att.net/always.html No one ever gets far unless he accomplishes the impossible at least once a day. Elbert Hubbard - " Ieneke van Houten " <ienvan Monday, October 24, 2005 8:41 PM psoriasis > Neysa wrote: > > > Marge do you think this would help psoriasis?? > Thanks! > Neysa > > Neysa, > > If you or anyone near and dear to you has proriasis, > buy, borrow or steal the wonderful book > Healing Psoriasis, by chiropractic Dr. John Pagano. > > I thought it was out of print but it is alive and > well and available. > The illustrations of before and after are awesome. > > The main gist of the book: the root cause of > proriasis is leaky gut and a congested liver. > So, any herb that is good for your liver, like > dandelion, milk thistle or boldo, is good for > psoriasis as well. > > Some people in the book got clear skin from > no more than a daily teaspoon of slippery elm. > > Good luck! > > Ien in the Kootenays > *************************** > Good planets are hard to find. > Let's look after this one! > One way to sustainable activism > http://theforestpath.com > *************************** > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 The scratching method sounds a lot like using wang bu liu xing (vaccaria) seeds as an irritant on a point. Generally the instructions around ear stimulation with seeds in contemporary Chinese literature are pretty explicit in stating that the area stimulated should become " red and sore " , the scratch might just start you off right. I haven't heard of the other stuff, do you have characters for it? I can look on Wan Fang... Par Scott - Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:05 PM psoriasis I am researching a topical treatment for psoriasis that one of the my teachers in China was really into: CPT (Camptothecin?). CPT is (I think?) an alkaloid derived from the Chinese tree Camptotheca acuminata Decne. Searching the internet has not been too helpful in yielding useful information, for example, where to get it, does it work etc etc.. One quote from a respected journal is " Reports of topical use of CPT preparations in treatment of psoriasis vulgaris have shown considerable effectiveness and no severe side effects but mild local irritations. " I was wondering if others know anything about this or other effective topical treatments. On a side note: I also remember some scratching method on the ear where black pepper is put on the scratch.. or something like that???? Does that ring any bells?? Thanks, -Jason <Chinese Medicine> <Chinese Medicine> tel: <http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?src=jj_signature & To=303.545.5792+x102 & Em ail=> www.Chinese Medicine <https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30064918855 & v0=295000 & k0=1975548621> Add me to your address book... <http://www.plaxo.com/signature> Want a signature like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Par, I just found the first two characters ϲÊ÷, the full pinyin is Xi3 shu4 jian3 ¨C I just am unsure of what the jian3 would be, but there is a xi shu listed in the MMs. it is a popular cancer treatment, although now it is considered too toxic by many. It is the fruit of tree, Camptotheca acuminata Decne (Xi Shu): -Jason _____ On Behalf Of Par Scott Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:36 PM Re: psoriasis The scratching method sounds a lot like using wang bu liu xing (vaccaria) seeds as an irritant on a point. Generally the instructions around ear stimulation with seeds in contemporary Chinese literature are pretty explicit in stating that the area stimulated should become " red and sore " , the scratch might just start you off right. I haven't heard of the other stuff, do you have characters for it? I can look on Wan Fang... Par Scott - @ <%40> Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:05 PM psoriasis I am researching a topical treatment for psoriasis that one of the my teachers in China was really into: CPT (Camptothecin?). CPT is (I think?) an alkaloid derived from the Chinese tree Camptotheca acuminata Decne. Searching the internet has not been too helpful in yielding useful information, for example, where to get it, does it work etc etc.. One quote from a respected journal is " Reports of topical use of CPT preparations in treatment of psoriasis vulgaris have shown considerable effectiveness and no severe side effects but mild local irritations. " I was wondering if others know anything about this or other effective topical treatments. On a side note: I also remember some scratching method on the ear where black pepper is put on the scratch.. or something like that???? Does that ring any bells?? Thanks, -Jason <http://www.chinesem <Chinese Medicine> edicinedoc.com> <http://www.chinesem <Chinese Medicine> edicinedoc.com> tel: <http://www.plaxo. <http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?src=jj_signature & To=303.545.5792+x102 & Em > com/click_to_call?src=jj_signature & To=303.545.5792+x102 & Em ail=@ <ail%3D%40Chinese Medicine> Chinese Medicine> www.Chinese Medicine <https://www. <https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30064918855 & v0=295000 & k0=1975548621> plaxo.com/add_me?u=30064918855 & v0=295000 & k0=1975548621> Add me to your address book... <http://www.plaxo. <http://www.plaxo.com/signature> com/signature> Want a signature like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 , " " wrote: > > Par, > > > > I just found the first two characters ϲÊ÷, the full pinyin is Xi3 shu4 > jian3 ¨C I just am unsure of what the jian3 would be, but there is a xi shu > listed in the MMs. it is a popular cancer treatment, although now it is > considered too toxic by many. It is the fruit of tree, Camptotheca > acuminata Decne (Xi Shu): It can be found in the zhong yao da ci dian. The fruit and root are both called han4 lian2 & #26097; & #33714; or xi3 shu4 & #21916; & #26641;, the latter name also refers to the Chinese botanical name of the plant. Its principle alkaloid is xi3 shu4 jian3 & #21916; & #26641; & #30897;, camptothecine. I believe that the official name for the herb is han lian, but it appears in the zhong yao da ci dian as xi shu (and han lian shares characters with the herb eclipta, which is officially called mo han lian but it often called han lian cao, making the use of the name han lian potentially confusing). In addition to camptothecine (xi shu jian), there are a few similar alkaloids in the whole herb preparation- whether they are useful or not medically, I have no idea. It also contains hydroxycamptothecine, deoxycamptothecine, and methoxycamptothecine. Here's some CM info on the fruit and root (translated from zhong yao da ci dian): Fructus seu Radix Camptothecae Camptotheca acuminata Decne. cold; bitter, astringent; toxic Tx: cancer; acute & chronic leukemia; hepatosplenomegaly due to schistosomiasis. (I saw in the database that it was also mentioned for psoriasis, but I didn't see it when I looked at the zydcd) By decoction, the dose range is 3-5 qian of the root bark or 1-3 qian of the fruit. It notes that the fruit is generally regarded as more effective but more toxic. The bark of the tree, xi shu pi, is used as well, and it is specifically indicated for psoriasis. The bark or twigs are made into a concentrated decoction which is mixed with an oil base and applied topically. The leaves are also used, but they are instead indicated for the initial-stage of swollen boils, welling-abscesses, & sores. Topically apply crushed & mixed with a pinch of salt. Eric Brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Eric, Yes I got all of that, but I am interested in its use for psoriasis, any info on that? -Jason _____ On Behalf Of Eric Brand Wednesday, June 27, 2007 1:12 AM Re: psoriasis @ <%40> , " " wrote: > > Par, > > > > I just found the first two characters ϲÊ÷, the full pinyin is Xi3 shu4 > jian3 ¨C I just am unsure of what the jian3 would be, but there is a xi shu > listed in the MMs. it is a popular cancer treatment, although now it is > considered too toxic by many. It is the fruit of tree, Camptotheca > acuminata Decne (Xi Shu): It can be found in the zhong yao da ci dian. The fruit and root are both called han4 lian2 & #26097; & #33714; or xi3 shu4 & #21916; & #26641;, the latter name also refers to the Chinese botanical name of the plant. Its principle alkaloid is xi3 shu4 jian3 & #21916; & #26641; & #30897;, camptothecine. I believe that the official name for the herb is han lian, but it appears in the zhong yao da ci dian as xi shu (and han lian shares characters with the herb eclipta, which is officially called mo han lian but it often called han lian cao, making the use of the name han lian potentially confusing). In addition to camptothecine (xi shu jian), there are a few similar alkaloids in the whole herb preparation- whether they are useful or not medically, I have no idea. It also contains hydroxycamptothecine, deoxycamptothecine, and methoxycamptothecine. Here's some CM info on the fruit and root (translated from zhong yao da ci dian): Fructus seu Radix Camptothecae Camptotheca acuminata Decne. cold; bitter, astringent; toxic Tx: cancer; acute & chronic leukemia; hepatosplenomegaly due to schistosomiasis. (I saw in the database that it was also mentioned for psoriasis, but I didn't see it when I looked at the zydcd) By decoction, the dose range is 3-5 qian of the root bark or 1-3 qian of the fruit. It notes that the fruit is generally regarded as more effective but more toxic. The bark of the tree, xi shu pi, is used as well, and it is specifically indicated for psoriasis. The bark or twigs are made into a concentrated decoction which is mixed with an oil base and applied topically. The leaves are also used, but they are instead indicated for the initial-stage of swollen boils, welling-abscesses, & sores. Topically apply crushed & mixed with a pinch of salt. Eric Brand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Hi Jason I found seven articles about the treatment of psoriasis with xishujian (the jian is apparently " soda/alkaloid " )ϲ˜ä‰A. If you have Wan Fang access is searched psoriasis in title and then for xisujian in the full text of the results of the first search. I only searched the more " technical " sounding term for psoriasis. If you don't have access I downloaded them and might be able to pull out the abstracts (see example below). Grabbing text from these is problematic, especially with roman letters and numbers and the PDF's have an encryption that makes them unviewable on computers that didn't download them... worse comes to worse I can print a couple and snail mail them to you. Observation of clinical efficacy on treating psoriasis with zinc pyrithione spray and camptothecine cream [ßÁà¤Áòä\šâìF„©ÅcÁu»ùϲ˜ä‰AÜ›¸àÖίŸãyм²¡ÅR´²Œ¦±ÈÓ^²ì]; ÖÜÑ´¡¢Àî»Ý; JOURNAL OF CHONGQING MEDICAL UNIVERSITY [ÖØ‘cát¿Æ´óŒWŒWˆó]; 2005, Vol.30, & nbspIssue 1 ϲ˜ä‰AÜ›¸à“ºÏï@¿ËÐÀÜ›¸àÖίŸŒ¤³£ÐÍãyм²¡; àæ¡¢ÓáéLt¡¢Ü⽨‡ø¡¢¹ùÑàÈØ¡¢Öìε; CLINICAL JOURNAL OF MEDICAL OFFICER [ÅR´²ÜŠátësÖ¾]; 2005, Vol.33, & nbspIssue 1 Í·½Ï²˜ä‰AͿĤ„©µÄÖÆ‚äºÍ¯ŸÐ§Ó^²ì; ÓݽBèT¡¢ˆÏ¼Áá; CHINA PHARMACEUTICALS [ÖЇøËŽ˜I]; 2001, Vol.10, & nbspIssue 6 Observation on the Effect of Modified Liangxue Xiaoyin Decoction(›öѪÏûãyœ«) on Psoriasis'a Report of 303 Cases [›öѪÏûãyœ«¼ÓœpÖίŸãyм²¡303Àý¯ŸÐ§Ó^²ì]; ÙIºÏľÌá.°¬„t×Ρ¢ÙIÃϽ.Žì –°à; SHANXI JOURNAL OF TRADITIONAL CHINESE MEDICINE [ɽÎ÷ÖÐát]; 2001, Vol.17, & nbspIssue 3 Clinical therapeutic effect of zinc pyritionate spray in the treatment of psoriasis vulgaris [ßÁà¤Áòä\šâìF„©ÖίŸŒ¤³£ÐÍãyм²¡ÅR´²¯ŸÐ§Ôuƒr]; ½ÎÄ¡¢êÅdƽ; CENTRAL CHINA MEDICAL JOURNAL [ÈAÖÐátŒWësÖ¾]; 2003, Vol.27, & nbspIssue 2 Clinical Observation of Curative Effect and Preparation on Camptothecine Gel [ϲ˜ä‰AÄýÄzµÄÖÆ‚äÅcÅR´²¯ŸÐ§Ó^²ì]; ¹ù•ÔÁÖ¡¢ÎÌС´º; HUBEI JOURNAL OF TRADITIONAL CHINESE MEDICINE [ºþ±±ÖÐátësÖ¾]; 2002, Vol.24, & nbspIssue 9 Here's an example of an abstract, if ti is useful I can pull the others... ´ïÁ¦Ê¿Ï²Ê÷¼îÈí¸àÖÎÁÆÑ°³£ÐÍÒøм²¡µÄÁÆЧ¹Û²ì ÄϾ©Ò½¿Æ´óѧ¸½Êô»´°²µÚһҽԺƤ·ô¿Æ£¨ & & ## " " £© ÕÅÐñ ժҪĿµÄ£º¹Û²ìÁ½Ò©ÔÚÖÎÁÆÑ°³£ÐÍÒøм²¡·½ÃæµÄÒìͬµã£¬ÒÔ»ýÀÛÁÙ´²ÓÃÒ©¾Ñé¡£·½·¨£ºËæ»ú\ ¡¢Æ½ÐжÔÕÕÖÎÁÆ¡£ ÓÃÁ½Ò©Í¿²ë»¼´¦£¬¹²+ÖÜ¡£½á¹û£ºÔÚ×ÜÓÐЧÂʼ°¶Ô²»Í¬²¡ÆÚ¡¢²»Í¬ÐÎ̬ƤÕîµÄÓÐЧÂʺÍÖÎÓúÍ\ £Ò©ºóµÄ½üÆÚ¸´·¢ÂÊ·½ ÃæÁ½Ò©¾ùÎÞÏÔÖøÐÔ²îÒ죨! ! " , " ¡¯£©¡£ÔÚÖÎÓúÂÊ¡¢ÖÎÓúʱ¼äºÍ²»Á¼·´Ó¦·½Ã棬Á½Ò©ÔòÓÐÏÔÖøÐÔ²îÒ죨! " " , " ¡¯£©£¬½á ÂÛ£ºÁ½Ò©¾ùÒÔ¾²Ö¹ÆÚÇ®±Ò״ƤÕîÕßÁÆЧ×î¼Ñ¡£ ¹Ø¼ü´ÊÒøм²¡Ñ°³£ÐÍ´ïÁ¦Ê¿Ï²Ê÷¼î - Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:38 PM RE: psoriasis Par, I just found the first two characters ϲÊ÷, the full pinyin is Xi3 shu4 jian3 ¨C I just am unsure of what the jian3 would be, but there is a xi shu listed in the MMs. it is a popular cancer treatment, although now it is considered too toxic by many. It is the fruit of tree, Camptotheca acuminata Decne (Xi Shu): -Jason _____ On Behalf Of Par Scott Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:36 PM Re: psoriasis The scratching method sounds a lot like using wang bu liu xing (vaccaria) seeds as an irritant on a point. Generally the instructions around ear stimulation with seeds in contemporary Chinese literature are pretty explicit in stating that the area stimulated should become " red and sore " , the scratch might just start you off right. I haven't heard of the other stuff, do you have characters for it? I can look on Wan Fang... Par Scott - @ <%40> Tuesday, June 26, 2007 8:05 PM psoriasis I am researching a topical treatment for psoriasis that one of the my teachers in China was really into: CPT (Camptothecin?). CPT is (I think?) an alkaloid derived from the Chinese tree Camptotheca acuminata Decne. Searching the internet has not been too helpful in yielding useful information, for example, where to get it, does it work etc etc.. One quote from a respected journal is " Reports of topical use of CPT preparations in treatment of psoriasis vulgaris have shown considerable effectiveness and no severe side effects but mild local irritations. " I was wondering if others know anything about this or other effective topical treatments. On a side note: I also remember some scratching method on the ear where black pepper is put on the scratch.. or something like that???? Does that ring any bells?? Thanks, -Jason <http://www.chinesem <Chinese Medicine> edicinedoc.com> <http://www.chinesem <Chinese Medicine> edicinedoc.com> tel: <http://www.plaxo. <http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?src=jj_signature & To=303.545.5792+x102 & Em > com/click_to_call?src=jj_signature & To=303.545.5792+x102 & Em ail=@ <ail%3D%40Chinese Medicine> Chinese Medicine> www.Chinese Medicine <https://www. <https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30064918855 & v0=295000 & k0=1975548621> plaxo.com/add_me?u=30064918855 & v0=295000 & k0=1975548621> Add me to your address book... <http://www.plaxo. <http://www.plaxo.com/signature> com/signature> Want a signature like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 , " " wrote: > > Eric, > > > > Yes I got all of that, but I am interested in its use for psoriasis, any > info on that? Like I said, the bark is used for psoriasis, and the database also mentioned psoriasis under the fruit/root as well (I'm not sure of the source of that one, though). You can also check pubmed, it has 9 hits for camptothecine and psoriasis, and more than 6000 hits for camptothecine alone. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Eric, I do appreciate your post, but maybe there was some miscommunication in what I am looking for. I am already aware that xi shu jian (fruit of the xi shu tree) is used for psoriasis. I am looking for information or people's experience in efficacy, where to get it, as well as preparation methods for CPT (made from fruit not the not the bark.) Barks as we know can be drastically different in nature and action (i.e. sang bai pi and sang shen). The preparations of CPT (what I am interested in) as I understand it, are quite tricky to make due to its toxicity. There are specific ratios that you need to make this topical (which many times is from a standardized extract with Vaseline). One cannot just slather on some xi shu jian, from what I understand. The pubmed was also already previously checked and one can notice that there are not even any abstracts for the entries that are of any note. I will check out Par's leads they seem promising. Thanks Par and Eric. If other's have any more information I would love to hear about it. - _____ On Behalf Of Eric Brand Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:59 AM Re: psoriasis @ <%40> , " " wrote: > > Eric, > > > > Yes I got all of that, but I am interested in its use for psoriasis, any > info on that? Like I said, the bark is used for psoriasis, and the database also mentioned psoriasis under the fruit/root as well (I'm not sure of the source of that one, though). You can also check pubmed, it has 9 hits for camptothecine and psoriasis, and more than 6000 hits for camptothecine alone. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 I will be more looking for what people recommend for this than adding to the answer... but without really having any knowledge, I am using teatree shampoo .... I have psoriasis in my scalp... Is patchouli supposed to help? The teatree is really great for soothing the burning symptoms... doesn't seem to be alleviating it, however.. What if I got some actual tea tree oil? Would that do anything? My lymph nodes in my neck are a little swollen, and they said it is most likely from my scalp. So I am guessing some staph is growing as well.. Please anyone who knows more to add or answers to the questions... Help. Thanks!! Kristen --- On Tue, 6/24/08, Jenn Lo <ladyhawke2900 wrote: Jenn Lo <ladyhawke2900 Psoriasis Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 11:08 AM Does anyone have any good remedys for psoriasis? Right now I am using patchouli in a hot bath but its not enough. Thanks LADYHAWKE we are all related live~laugh~love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Jenny, This is what I use. (I get it pretty bad, and I'm way allergic to Patchouli) I use some crushed up aspirin in my shampoo. (mine is on my head mainly) I also use T-gel (or a coal tar shampoo when it gets really bad) for a lotion I've made up some emu oil lotion, and it does wonders. when ever it starts to itch really bad (after I sweat, I slather some of that on the spots. Other wise pine tar soap is good for it. Also when I get really frustrated. I use a sulfur paste that I got at the mexican specialty aisle in HEB, (If you don't have an HEB, then look on line for either a sulfur soap, or a sulfur paste) (sulfur dries things out.) Aspirin (is salicylic acid) I've also found that nioxin (has rosemary and peppermint in it) helps too. (and it's a really great shampoo too. ) It makes my hair look like I have some... (I use nioxin for my hair loss.) {hormones and stuff.} Jennifer. (I've had this most of my life, so I know what it's like when you find something that's supposed to work, but doesn't for you. It's one of those things where not everything works for everybody.) Did you know that psoriasis is an immune condition? Did you know that it can show more at times of high stress? Did you know that sometimes taking an antihistamine can help calm it? > - > Jenn Lo > 06/24/08 10:08 am > > Psoriasis > > > > > Does anyone have any good remedys for psoriasis? Right now I am using > patchouli in a hot bath but its not enough. > Thanks > > > LADYHAWKE > we are all related > live~laugh~love > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Try working on the liver... My husband also suffers with psoriasis. For the past three months, I've had him taking a liver-supporting formula which includes milk thistle, blessed thistle, and dandelion root. His spots are definitely clearing up. Some of the smaller ones are even showing pink new skin! This month we are adding EFA's, but I can't report on their effects yet. Shana On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:36 PM, <pixieladie wrote: > > > Did you know that psoriasis is an immune condition? Did you know that it > can show more at times of high stress? > > Did you know that sometimes taking an antihistamine can help calm it? > > > - > > Jenn Lo > > 06/24/08 10:08 am > > <%40> > > Psoriasis > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any good remedys for psoriasis? Right now I am using > > patchouli in a hot bath but its not enough. > > Thanks > > > > > > LADYHAWKE > > we are all related > > live~laugh~love > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Thanks :-) pixieladie wrote: Jenny, This is what I use. (I get it pretty bad, and I'm way allergic to Patchouli) I use some crushed up aspirin in my shampoo. (mine is on my head mainly) I also use T-gel (or a coal tar shampoo when it gets really bad) for a lotion I've made up some emu oil lotion, and it does wonders. when ever it starts to itch really bad (after I sweat, I slather some of that on the spots. Other wise pine tar soap is good for it. Also when I get really frustrated. I use a sulfur paste that I got at the mexican specialty aisle in HEB, (If you don't have an HEB, then look on line for either a sulfur soap, or a sulfur paste) (sulfur dries things out.) Aspirin (is salicylic acid) I've also found that nioxin (has rosemary and peppermint in it) helps too. (and it's a really great shampoo too. ) It makes my hair look like I have some... (I use nioxin for my hair loss.) {hormones and stuff.} Jennifer. (I've had this most of my life, so I know what it's like when you find something that's supposed to work, but doesn't for you. It's one of those things where not everything works for everybody.) Did you know that psoriasis is an immune condition? Did you know that it can show more at times of high stress? Did you know that sometimes taking an antihistamine can help calm it? > - > Jenn Lo > 06/24/08 10:08 am > > Psoriasis > > > > > Does anyone have any good remedys for psoriasis? Right now I am using > patchouli in a hot bath but its not enough. > Thanks > > > LADYHAWKE > we are all related > live~laugh~love > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 I have used EFA's and had good results with Borage oil in particular. I think you will have good luck with it in combination. Shana Clagg <A.Healthier.Shana wrote: Try working on the liver... My husband also suffers with psoriasis. For the past three months, I've had him taking a liver-supporting formula which includes milk thistle, blessed thistle, and dandelion root. His spots are definitely clearing up. Some of the smaller ones are even showing pink new skin! This month we are adding EFA's, but I can't report on their effects yet. Shana On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:36 PM, <pixieladie wrote: > > > Did you know that psoriasis is an immune condition? Did you know that it > can show more at times of high stress? > > Did you know that sometimes taking an antihistamine can help calm it? > > > - > > Jenn Lo > > 06/24/08 10:08 am > > <%40> > > Psoriasis > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any good remedys for psoriasis? Right now I am using > > patchouli in a hot bath but its not enough. > > Thanks > > > > > > LADYHAWKE > > we are all related > > live~laugh~love > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Also take into consideration what you eat. Eggs in one's diet can cause skin problems. While you may not have a typical allergic reaction to eggs, it is known to cause ezcema and other skin problems. Dede , Jenn Lo <ladyhawke2900 wrote: > > > > Does anyone have any good remedys for psoriasis? Right now I am using patchouli in a hot bath but its not enough. > Thanks > > > > > LADYHAWKE > we are all related > live~laugh~love > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Morning all,  I use cold-pressed macadamia oil! It seems to work on a lot of skin problems. If I had psoriasis on the scalp (or anywhere else) I would massage it into the scalp then wash with a pure shampoo.  Don't use any shampoo with synthetics, sls, sla and things you can't pronounce or spell! Coconut oil (for good cleaning) Olive oil (because it is great for your skin) Macadamia oil (because it is my favourite oil in so many ways) then whatever essential oil you wish to use. Use sodium hydroxide with water, add the other oils; beat like mad and pour into moulds.  When firm take out of moulds and cut to size. Leave to get rock hard. You'll never go back  Regards Merinda  Don't burn your bridges until you have built a pontoon Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.7.com.au/mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 I have some psoriasis too, on one elbow and in my hair. I just read a wonderful book: Healing psoriasis, the natural alternative, by dr. John Pagano. I've already implemented some of his suggestions, especially in my diet, and I already see some improvement._This is his website: http://www.psoriasis-healing.com/ Greetz, Saskia _,_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Do any of you know what helps control best or even better get rid and cures psoriasis ?Vinh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Detox, elimination diets and I have heard that cow udder ointment helps topically, each patient is different as far as some needs are concerned. Best, Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ - shepaussii Saturday, May 08, 2010 1:35 AM Psoriasis Do any of you know what helps control best or even better get rid and cures psoriasis ?Vinh Internal Virus Database is out of date.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2396 - Release 09/26/09 05:51:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Hi.. Since it is a skin thing if the blood is toxic that can show evidence in skin problems....A fast detox is what helped me get rid of the cause/causes and did detox out the meds and other 'stuff' such as parasites, toxins, etc. (long story) Mary In a message dated 5/9/2010 10:55:15 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, westoo writes: I never looked into psoriasis too deeply but avoidance of red meat and dairy products has been said to help. I had a friend who reversed his psoriasis by only cutting red meat out of his diet which may or not work for someone else.Betsy ☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 I never looked into psoriasis too deeply but avoidance of red meat and dairy products has been said to help. I had a friend who reversed his psoriasis by only cutting red meat out of his diet which may or not work for someone else.Betsy ☺shepaussii <aussie.shepherds Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 10:35:53 AM Psoriasis Do any of you know what helps control best or even better get rid and cures psoriasis ?Vinh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Most udder balms are loaded withgarbage ingredients like: propylene glycol, methylparaben, propylparaben, etc. Putting these ingredients on the skin is especially damaging if you are exposed to any UV light. This is analogous to frying your food in motor oil. Do you know of any udder balms that are healthy? I think taking vitamin A, and zinc internally is impotrtant in addition to some good sun exposure without getting a burn. Shea butter, MMS, MSM, lanolin, Egyptian Magic, aloe, and homeopathic ointments can all be helpful if you can't get a good udder balm/--- On Sun, 5/9/10, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote: Jane MacRoss <highfield1Re: Psoriasis Date: Sunday, May 9, 2010, 3:48 AM Detox, elimination diets and I have heard that cow udder ointment helps topically, each patient is different as far as some needs are concerned. Best, Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ - shepaussii Saturday, May 08, 2010 1:35 AM Psoriasis Do any of you know what helps control best or even better get rid and cures psoriasis ?Vinh Internal Virus Database is out of date.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2396 - Release 09/26/09 05:51:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010  My friend is vegetarian and the only thing that has helped him for years is one of the Neway's creams. The barrier cream, 15 years he's used this for - he wont be without it. Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ - Betsy Sinkey Monday, May 10, 2010 2:55 AM Re: Psoriasis I never looked into psoriasis too deeply but avoidance of red meat and dairy products has been said to help. I had a friend who reversed his psoriasis by only cutting red meat out of his diet which may or not work for someone else.Betsy ☺ shepaussii <aussie.shepherds Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 10:35:53 AM Psoriasis Do any of you know what helps control best or even better get rid and cures psoriasis ?Vinh Internal Virus Database is out of date.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2396 - Release 09/26/09 05:51:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010  Was only going by hearsay - have never used udder cream. Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ - Tony De Angelis Monday, May 10, 2010 5:40 AM Re: Psoriasis Most udder balms are loaded withgarbage ingredients like: propylene glycol, methylparaben, propylparaben, etc. Putting these ingredients on the skin is especially damaging if you are exposed to any UV light. This is analogous to frying your food in motor oil. Do you know of any udder balms that are healthy? I think taking vitamin A, and zinc internally is impotrtant in addition to some good sun exposure without getting a burn. Shea butter, MMS, MSM, lanolin, Egyptian Magic, aloe, and homeopathic ointments can all be helpful if you can't get a good udder balm/--- On Sun, 5/9/10, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote: Jane MacRoss <highfield1Re: Psoriasis Date: Sunday, May 9, 2010, 3:48 AM Detox, elimination diets and I have heard that cow udder ointment helps topically, each patient is different as far as some needs are concerned. Best, Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ - shepaussii Saturday, May 08, 2010 1:35 AM Psoriasis Do any of you know what helps control best or even better get rid and cures psoriasis ?Vinh Internal Virus Database is out of date.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2396 - Release 09/26/09 05:51:00 Internal Virus Database is out of date.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2396 - Release 09/26/09 05:51:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010  Do some googling for LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone). May you soon find a solution for your problem! Yannic shepaussii <aussie.shepherds (AT) ymail (DOT) com> Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 10:35:53 AM Psoriasis Do any of you know what helps control best or even better get rid and cures psoriasis ?Vinh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010  Ah does LDN help psoriasis as well? I haven't really studied it yet. Jane http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~ - Hen & Yan Monday, May 10, 2010 6:48 AM Re: Psoriasis  Do some googling for LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone). May you soon find a solution for your problem! Yannic shepaussii <aussie.shepherds (AT) ymail (DOT) com> Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 10:35:53 AM Psoriasis Do any of you know what helps control best or even better get rid and cures psoriasis ?Vinh Internal Virus Database is out of date.Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2396 - Release 09/26/09 05:51:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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