Guest guest Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 Australia - Flu Shots Suspended - comments from Perth today on flu vaccine reactions Meryl Dorey <meryl http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/was-free-influenza-vaccination-program-has-been-suspended-for-children-under-five/comments-e6frg12c-1225857140885 Ann Marie Posted at 6:54 PM April 22, 2010 These are not the first adverse reactions and they will certainly not be the last as long as people continue to be vaccinated! Nor have they " only happened in WA " - there are worldwide adverse reactions, some of which are very serious. Parents, you need to do your own research - don't just listen to the health department which, to a large extent, is influenced by big pharma (who make the big bucks!) Comment 1 of 226 momof2 of Lesmurdie Posted at 7:01 PM April 22, 2010 My daughter had the flu vaccination 5 weeks ago and presented with high fever for more than 8 hours. Luckily she is not prone to febrile convulsions! I know of several other children that had the vaccination in the last 3 weeks who also presented with high fevers. Comment 2 of 226 Bianca Guthrie of Cloverdale Posted at 7:18 PM April 22, 2010 My children, aged 8 months and 3, were vaccinated mid morning yesterday and by mid afternoon had high temperatures. I promptly gave them panadol and although we had a sleepless night with both of them up and miserable they are almost back to normal today. I'm disappointed that the Health Department have put so much effort into promoting flu vaccination with letters and advertisements, and we were even offered it in a PMH waiting room while we waited to see a specialist, yet clearly not enough effort has gone into checking the safety of the vaccine or education about possible side effects. We were not given any information about side effects at our GP clinic. Comment 3 of 226 a mum Posted at 7:43 PM April 22, 2010 My son got his flu vac about 4 weeks ago and with in 8 hours his temp was up around 40 degrees and he wasnt well at all so its not just kids in the last 12 hours that have had it that are getting the very high temps from the flu vac Comment 4 of 226 Charli Girl of Cyber City Posted at 7:45 PM April 22, 2010 Has WA got a bad batch? Comment 5 of 226 fairywings of Port Kennedy Posted at 8:01 PM April 22, 2010 Do our children really need the flu vac? Am I a 'bad mother' for not giving it to my toddler? Although 139 children under 5 were hospitalized with the flu hence why the govenment want us to get it how many children are there under in 5 in WA, this is a really small percentage, a normal healthy child shouldn't need it Comment 6 of 226 mother of three of perth Posted at 8:02 PM April 22, 2010 my three children had the vaccine and all three of then were absolutely fine. not even a little bit hot or miserable and they are all under five, so i don't this is everyone just a small minority. the anti-vaccine brigade will be loving this, but it needs to be put into perpective Comment 7 of 226 tarah of perth Posted at 8:07 PM April 22, 2010 to new mothers- dont vaccinate... very very dangerous.. playing with mankind.... Comment 8 of 226 Pam Posted at 8:12 PM April 22, 2010 I had both my children 4 years and 10 months vaccinated yesterday afternoon. By 9pm last night they were both up vomiting and 39 degree + temps. Quite frightening indeed Comment 9 of 226 Educated Mum! Posted at 8:12 PM April 22, 2010 As with any vaccination parents must weigh up the 'pro's' and 'con's'. I would think that most parents would agree that a few hours of a child with a high temp is preferable to having a child contract swine flu or another flu strain. My 3 children (aged 8 and 5) are booked to have the vaccination next week and I will be keeping the appointment. Comment 10 of 226 toringsun of perth Posted at 8:14 PM April 22, 2010 yes while the rest of the world was getting told by media in the northern hemisphere that the threat of h1n1 had been over exaggerated and that countries had huge stock piles of vaccine and where wanting a full European investigation into big pharma and W.H.O. I noticed we here in Australia through main stream media we where still being told to get the vaccine. it will be the same again tomorrow all the talking heads will be out in force to tell everyone to trust this untested vaccine except now if you are under 5. Comment 11 of 226 stellastar_09 Posted at 8:17 PM April 22, 2010 yes the 12 hour thing is a joke. My 17 month old daughter had her flu shot 3 weeks ago and woke with a high fever and shudders/twitches. This has never happened to her before and she has had fevers prior. It is very scary that the HD is so strongly promoting treatments that endanger our children. Comment 12 of 226 upset mother Posted at 8:19 PM April 22, 2010 Two days ago I took my toddler to have his 18mnth vac for chickenpox. At that time I was convinced that it would be in my childs best interest to have the flu vac. I was not told about the possible side effects. At 3am my child woke. He was scared as he was very hot and having odd jerking movements. His temp didn't read as high but I cooled him down in a sink of water. After hearing about todays story I feel upset, teary as I feel terrible about what had happened and what could have happened to my child. This experience means no more flu vacs for my child! Comment 13 of 226 Worried mum of Floreat Posted at 8:20 PM April 22, 2010 I also vacinated my 2 boys (11mths & 4yrs) on Tuesday. The baby's temp soared suddenly after about 6 hrs & he started vomitting. I managed to get it down with wet cloths & Panadol and he is almost back to normal today. And this was just a half dose! My 4 yr old is fine, but he was also vacinated last year, so maybe this has helped. I just hope that they don't find a major problem with this batch... Comment 14 of 226 chas of gosnells Posted at 8:21 PM April 22, 2010 my son had his shots on tuesday and within 5 hrs had a fever of 39 deg vomiting and heart rate through the roof, armidale hospital doctor told me she had seen two cases every shift Comment 15 of 226 motherofperth Posted at 8:26 PM April 22, 2010 My child had the flu vaccination last week, for the last 4 days he has been grizzly. @ days after he had the vaccination he had diorehea, high temp and work up have a shaking fit as his temperature was so high. Is it so hard for the government to put a bit more effort into researching these vaccinations before making our children ill for no reason. Comment 16 of 226 M Posted at 8:29 PM April 22, 2010 There have been bad reactions for over a week, My work colleagues kids had a reaction to their flu shots (convultions, vomit & 39 temp) last week and when they phoned the health line they were told they were the 5th callers that nite. why only now for a warning? Comment 17 of 226 Govt rushing out again of morley Posted at 8:30 PM April 22, 2010 Surely this is tested prior to release well my 1 and 4 year old, as well as my pregnant wife are all sick right now from this sh*t! wheres the bloody info on what to do. No direct link to the vaccine my ass! Where do i take my legal case on this.. its so negligent its ridiculous Comment 18 of 226 Hey of Perth Posted at 8:32 PM April 22, 2010 mother of three of perth, I agree, there is always a risk but it is a small percentage. My 2 kids under 5 also had the flu vac (and all other vacs) and no problems. It's not good luck to have no side effects, it's bad luck if you do. The anti-vaccine brigade are going to have a field day! Comment 19 of 226 CJ of Duncraig Posted at 8:35 PM April 22, 2010 My 2 yr old had the same symptoms as Worried mum of floreat's 11mth old. Her temp soared to over 39 degrees after 6 hrs, she also had awful chills and vomited everything she had eaten in that time. Very scary. Comment 20 of 226 Bejf Posted at 8:37 PM April 22, 2010 why would you let your child have an immunisation without asking your gp the risks involved? and to both Educated Mum! and mother of three of perth, what on earth are the pro's? both influenza and swine flu strains change so often that the immunisation does not cover all the strains, and that within one season of flu, its likely that to have changed already?! so what exactly are you protecting your children against? something that no longer exists? yes i can understand vaccinations for serious stable viruses, but influenza and swine flu? perhaps you should check your education sources Comment 21 of 226 Jane of perth Posted at 8:45 PM April 22, 2010 This is a terrible situation for all mums, dads and bubs. I received letters in the mail advising me to vaccinate. I am not against the routine vaccinations however I do feel we are being overly cautious and aggresive with our need to vaccinate against everything. Our poor children are having up to 5 needles a year. Surely this is an issue. I am all for medical advances, lets hope they sort this out soon. Comment 22 of 226 STEVE Posted at 8:46 PM April 22, 2010 A spile in presentations what appalling dehumanising lingo it that.Medically " presentations " were traditionally samples, not the patient, and typically samples of human waste products. Is this the new Health sCare system.? Comment 23 of 226 NM of Perth Posted at 8:47 PM April 22, 2010 We spent 6 hours in emergency with our 20 month old after this vaccine and the doctor still tried to convinc us to give her the second dose! Comment 24 of 226 Chrisitne of Perth Posted at 8:48 PM April 22, 2010 My poor 18 month old had her needles yesterday afternoon and 6 hours later spiked a temperature with shaking/shivering fits. Got medication into her straight away but this only lasted 2 hours before it started again and I had to dose her with something else. Still high temps today Comment 25 of 226 Liz of Perth Posted at 8:49 PM April 22, 2010 2 Months ago, I asked a GP about the VAC. What were his thoughts on myself and my son having it. He said " the Govt. wants us to tell our patients to have it " . I then asked so will you be having it? He said " NO " . I found this strange seeing though he works around lots of sick people on a daily basis. Wouldn't a doctor be the first to have it? I would've thought. I've also decided to go along with his notion. Apparently the pharmaceutical companies will make a killing...in more ways than one. Comment 26 of 226 Philby Jam Posted at 8:49 PM April 22, 2010 Come on people.... do any of you question the stuff they put in these vaccines??? It is madness to blindly follow the doctors and government. In the UK when I lived their Doctors where paid for every MMR vaccine they gave. If the thing was so good and effective why should they have to be given financial incentive to make people have them?? Start questioning and thinking for yourselves people!! Comment 27 of 226 kalgoorlie Posted at 8:53 PM April 22, 2010 look i think the government is doing as much as they can to try and keep our children safe from all these diseases. There is only so much they can do. So what r u going to go on and blame the government for the earthquake in kalgoorlie as well. Wake up and realise as everyday passes these flu's and diseases are becomjng stronger and soon there will be no cure. Comment 28 of 226 Paddington Bear Posted at 8:58 PM April 22, 2010 Poor kiddies, I had the same symptoms over the weekend post flu - shot, never had a reaction like that before with them. At least I am older and understand why I was feeling so bad. This was the first year I considered not having it cos I am paranoid about the Swine flu combination - wishing now I didn't. You never know maybe it means a stronger immunity through the flu season - dunno... Comment 29 of 226 Rocky of Chasers lounge Posted at 9:00 PM April 22, 2010 You people really need to look into EXACTLY what they are putting into your children prior to blindly believing this crap they push onto people. Comment 30 of 226 Khyla of Victoria Park, Perth Posted at 9:05 PM April 22, 2010 Same...I had my 20 month old, and 3.5 year old, vaccinated on Tuesday. Both had dry fevers by the evening and the 3.5 year old vomited in his sleep. Panadol helped but my youngest was still not well the following day. Both boys are still not 100% but improving slowly. I only had them done this year as my youngest is prone to croupe! Not sure if Ill be going back for the 2nd vaccination in 28 days!!! Comment 31 of 226 Bejf Posted at 9:06 PM April 22, 2010 good point fairywings of Port Kenned comment 6, why DOES a healthy child need an immunisation against a non-life threatening illness? Comment 32 of 226 Dr Bob of Perth Posted at 9:06 PM April 22, 2010 Money, they're making us crap ourselves so they can make some more money. Comment 33 of 226 MP Posted at 9:07 PM April 22, 2010 My son had the vaccine in the ACT this afternoon and by 6pm, he was shivering and shaking with a very high temp. After panadol, it was still 38.6 when examined by an after hours doctor! These reactions are not localised to WA - think twice before having your young child (under 5) vaccinated. I wish I had listened to others, clearly more investigation is required before the program continues in children under 5.. Comment 34 of 226 please re-consider of perth Posted at 9:11 PM April 22, 2010 No vaccination makes up for a poor immune system. Please educate yourselves on how to do this. You are giving your children a large dose of Thimerosal/Thiomersal which is 49% mercury by weight, amongst a whole lot of other compounds that haven't been tested thoroughly. Comment 35 of 226 Nurse JOJO of Perth NOR Posted at 9:14 PM April 22, 2010 Why are people complaining about not knowing about side-effects of a vaccine? Why would you get your child vaccinated without first asking about potential side-effects? Come on people, take some responsibility for your families health care and ask the questions yourself!! I vaccinate children everyday at work, and am amazed at the number of parents who don't bother to ask about possible side-effects. I inform parents of any potential side-effects, and what to do about them, as do all the nurses I work with. Comment 36 of 226 fidav of Joondalup Posted at 9:15 PM April 22, 2010 I called on Friday to book my 16 month old in for hers - she needed the two as she didn't get the booster last year - the second was due just as we are planning a long plane trip overseas, and the nurse said to me (on Friday!), this batch seems to be causing high fevers so don't do it too close to your departure, give it a few days. Fortunately my little one developed an ear infection over the weekend (not sure fortunately would normally be in that sentence) and when we went for our appointment for the jab on Monday she wasn't able to have it due to a slight fever and an ear infection - so I'm very pleased she got the ear infection .... maybe we'll skip the flu jab this year, clearly she wasn't meant to have the two last year as each time she got a cold or ear infection days before the second one was due and eventually the surgery ran out of flu jabs! The joys of winter and daycare and having an older sibling at school! Comment 37 of 226 Meryl Dorey of Bangalow NSW Posted at 9:17 PM April 22, 2010 Everyone, it is so important that these reactions get reported - not just ignored. If your doctor won't report to the government, visit the Australian Vaccination Network's website - www.avn.org.au - and report it there. Unless all reactions are reported, we will never know the safety profile of vaccinations. Comment 38 of 226 Julie.. concerned Posted at 9:19 PM April 22, 2010 To the Gentleman " govt rushing out again " It seems you have a lot on your hands tonight with 2 sick babies and a sick pregnant wife who is probably not in a fit stage to help. Looking at the other comments some of the mothers have said. They have tried to get the temps down and given them Tylenol but with 3 patients (or 4) youre best bet would be to get a family friend in to help or get a doctor around to ease your burden and charge the govt for the bill. Hope everything goes well .. concerned reader. Comment 39 of 226 Diana Posted at 9:22 PM April 22, 2010 My children had their flu vaccination last week and as I have always done with any vaccination, I gave them a dose of panadol BEFORE they were vaccinated and luckily they were both ok. They are aged 23 months and 5 years old. Comment 40 of 226 The Lunatics are Running the Asylum Posted at 9:22 PM April 22, 2010 So the Health Department sends parents a letter last week (I got one) using details they got from Medicare urging them to have your under 5's vaccinated and hey the Government will do it FOR FREE. Then the following week they tell parents NOT to get their under 5's vaccinated? WHAT THE???? Comment 41 of 226 concerned of perth Posted at 9:27 PM April 22, 2010 Same thing happened to us, we had our 17 month vaccinated last Wednesday, and within a few hours he was vomiting, had high fever and jerky shaking in both hands his whole body was limp and burning up. This continued through the night, by the morning he was alright again. We were encouraged to have the vaccination as he has asthma and colds and flu are his trigger. At the time we put the reaction down to a known egg allergy.. but now not so sure. The big question is, and the health-line people couldn't answer, what to do about the follow up jab? and what are the consequences of only having half the treatment? Comment 42 of 226 Mumma Z Posted at 9:28 PM April 22, 2010 Why did it take the health department so long to suspend this vaccine? My children were vaccinated 20/03/10.In the last week i have spoken to many mothers with the same story as me.The hospitals have been dealing with this for weeks. So why so long? Comment 43 of 226 Jae of Jane Brook Posted at 9:32 PM April 22, 2010 My sons (3 years and 8 months) had the shot last Friday. Bub's first (half dose) caused him to have a fever of 39.6 and vomiting by evening. 3 year had no affects but has had vac before. Rung Health Direct and she said it was a " Common side affect " and not to worry. Needless to say as others has said, has not been just in the last 24 hours. Perhaps the " Spike " was due to the letter the Immunisation Register sent out last week???? Comment 44 of 226 Johnnyred of Perth Hills Posted at 9:32 PM April 22, 2010 Anyone's kids had the shot without the bad reaction? Comment 45 of 226 Mel Posted at 9:39 PM April 22, 2010 I am a 45kg female resident of Melbourne who had a flu shot on Tuesday and I had a massive reaction 20 minutes after the jab which included profuse sweating, light headedness and a blood pressure of 100/50 which is very low for me. Perhaps this issue is not limited to the little ones in W.A. but it may have national consequences? Comment 46 of 226 chookster of perth Posted at 9:41 PM April 22, 2010 I think we all need to make our own choices on this.. Teling new mothers not to vaccinate could be lethal.. Also although we are highly reccomended to have these we are not forced to... I do feel a few hours of high fever would be better than a child very ill with swine flu... Comment 47 of 226 SEH Posted at 9:56 PM April 22, 2010 My Son is two and is not vaccinated and he has NEVER been sick. He has never had a cold or flu or any kind of gastric upset. His father and I have both suffered through numerous viruses, shared a bed with him and without thinking, have shared many of our germs with him. What does this say? Is he just lucky? Or his immune system free from the many toxic substances in vaccines? Is it not over-burdened by the ridiculous quantity of vaccines children are subjected to these days? You decide... Comment 48 of 226 A Parent Posted at 10:04 PM April 22, 2010 My child had a flu vaccination two weeks ago. That evening she presented a high fever, became weak and then began vomiting in the middle of the night. She had not reacted like this to previous vaccinations or last year's flu vaccination. Comment 49 of 226 CFMum of WA Posted at 10:13 PM April 22, 2010 My son had the injections yesterday he is 8 and has Cystic FIbrosis. I gave him Panadol last night at 8pm just in case, he woke at midnight, temp of 40 degreees, crying Mummy I'm cold, I'm so cold, teeth chattering and shaking like hell. We sponged him down and kept a cotton sheet on him, but he just shook for hours and couldnt sleep, it was pretty scary for him! Comment 50 of 226 A Parent Posted at 10:13 PM April 22, 2010 I forgot to mention that a couple of my friends also had their children vaccinated last week and their babies also experienced high fevers and vomiting. When you take your child to have any vaccination you are provided with a sheet stating possible side effects. I don't recall vomiting being mentioned and the risk of convultions were meant to be low but obviously not with this batch. Comment 51 of 226 LL Posted at 10:16 PM April 22, 2010 My 2 year old was vaccinated yesterday for the first time. I was actually unsure about doing it but after receiving a letter from the HD I decided to do it. Bad idea!! My son was so ill, 39.1 temp, vomiting, shaking, scared. I am so p'd off and angry. I feel misled and let down by the HD. They should be warning parents of side effects first!!! I want answers, I want an explanation. The truth not just some government jargon. Comment 52 of 226 ErinBrockovich of Perth Posted at 10:23 PM April 22, 2010 Yes parents owe it to their children to research inoculations of any type. Why take the word of total strangers when it comes to your most precious assets...your children Comment 53 of 226 Jomomma of perth Posted at 10:26 PM April 22, 2010 To the anti-vaccine parents; don't TELL other parents what to do (tarah, comment 8), parents are all entitled to make their own decisions. Hey whatever, don't vaccinate.. when your kids come down with rubella or whooping cough there will be noone to blame but you, and you will be the one begging the doctors to do all they can for your child.. while you ironically didn't. Yeah not all kids get sick or get horrible diseases if they aren't vaccinated, but not all kids have a reaction to vaccinations either. Don't tell other parents how to to raise their kids. My 4 year old had the vaccination, she got a temperature that I was prepared for (as with ANY other vaccination) and now she's peachy keen. A majority of positive reports outweighs a handful of negative ones.. just seems the negative ones express their feelings on the subject, louder than the positive ones. Comment 54 of 226 phantastik pharmaceuticals Posted at 10:37 PM April 22, 2010 Every year a new strain of the flu has mutated, and every year a new vaccine has to be studied, tested and approved safe and effective to use. Unfortunately this means new vaccines are rushed through the study process in order to get them manufactured in bulk to be made available to the public. When they're first released, they will probably not have been tested on children, the elderly or people with other conditions. This isn't new and it will only be compounded as our population grows and technology advances into even more unethical ways to keep people alive. However the benefit of these vaccines is simply to reduce the risk of an outbreak/pandemic, which increases the number of hospitalizations and complications, thus avoiding time off work/school/feeling sick. As with every pharmaceutical, there's side effects - read a pamphlet on any prescription drug, FEVER is side effect. I hope nurses administering the vaccinations explain the risks and management to parents. I can only speculate that the children admitted to hospital with febrile convulsions are the result of a fever that has not been managed properly. The vaccine won't kill you, but then again, neither will the flu. Comment 55 of 226 Tell no Lies of W.A. Posted at 10:47 PM April 22, 2010 Both my grandchildren had the vaccine yesterday and both had my daughter up all night with high temps and my grandson was even vomiting, my grandaughter has been unwell all day, i would say their is a definate link. Comment 56 of 226 Scozzie Posted at 11:12 PM April 22, 2010 My sister had her children vaccinated the very first day the vaccine was available. Her 14 month old was violently sick, 40 degree temp and heart rate through the roof her 3 year old wasn't well at all either...this lasted for a few days...She took her youngest straight to PMH and they said they had been over run with cases that night. A friends child also had same experience with convulsions too. This should have been made public weeks ago...thankfully there have been no deaths..... Comment 57 of 226 Bruce of Kambalda Posted at 11:23 PM April 22, 2010 Of course GPs are going to push you to get vaccinated - don't forget they get paid lots for it! Those of you who pay the doc for flu injections are paying for flu shots they get for FREE from the government! It's a scam. Comment 58 of 226 Sh@t Off of Perth Posted at 11:40 PM April 22, 2010 This is an absolute disgrace. Our two-year-old and five-year-old were vaccinated last week on direct recommendation from the GP. The two-year-old had a shocking fever that night and both have complained of sore stomachs and suffered diarrhoea since. Then we only find out there's a problem when the Health Minister pops up on the news sending parents all over the State into a panic with no information. Where's the detail on what's causing this? Where's the information I need to make sure my kids are protected? Why is this happening and what are the possible repercussions? I can't begin to say how angry I am about this. If my kids have any long-term repercussions at all from this then whoever is responsible will be getting a syringe full of dodgy flu vaccine jammed where the sun don't shine. Kim Hames the buck stops with you. Comment 59 of 226 Roger Posted at 11:45 PM April 22, 2010 My wife took our 19 months old boy for his flu vac last Friday 16th in the morning - around 6pm he started with a very strong fever hitting over 40 degrees! by midnight first we called the Helpline that directed us to go to the After hours GP - we took him to Royal perth Hosp (After hous GP), and we had to alternate paracetamol and neurofren for the next 24 hours. The fever just ended almost 48 hours after, and my boy is still a bit sick, coughing and running nose. It was a big fright, but I feel sorry for all the parents that had their kids with convulsions. Hope this can be fixed as soon as possible by the government. Comment 60 of 226 ben Posted at 11:56 PM April 22, 2010 Govt Rushing - don't be so pathetic. Legal case? You know the dangers of vaccines going in. There has been no link established yet, just a correlation. Comment 61 of 226 Leesa of Northern Suburbs Posted at 12:34 AM Today tarah of Perth. Comment 8, I agree. Dont vaccinate, Its dangerous!. No way on this Earth are my kids having any flu vaccine, Especially that swine vaccine. Not a hope!! Comment 62 of 226 Worried Ballajura Mum of Ballajura Perth Western Australia. Posted at 12:41 AM Today My husband and i took our to beautiful children aged 3 and 5 to get their flu shot today before we heard about the suspension. I had not wanted the swine flu vaccine as i have heard terrible news about it, but has happy for them to have the influenza A and B that they have had before. It was not until after the children had their injection that i asked the nurse about her view on the swine flu vaccine and she said what do you mean your children just had the swine flu and influenza A and B all in one shot. I was totally unaware that it was all combined. Now i am on a night vigil checking on my two wonderful children to make sure that what was just injected into them does not do any harm. So far so good as i have been giving them six hourly paracetamol so we will have to see how we go the rest of the night. If children have been showing signs of an adverse reaction for weeks why in the world have we not been told to even take extra precautions. If i had known this before i would have taken my chances of getting swine flu over the winter, i now think the odds are better. Comment 63 of 226 SH@t Off of Perth Posted at 12:44 AM Today Is this for real? Following the apparently urgent warnings I went looking for more information - the following is information taken from the WA Dept of Healh website shortly befoe 1am today! This is just negligent! For God's sake get the messages consistent and give us the right information!!!!!! Here's what it says - great advice in the circumstances ... " Vaccination against human swine flu is voluntary, but everyone is encouraged to get vaccinated. There are two types of vaccine available to protect you against human swine flu. Panvax will protect against the human swine flu virus and is free for everyone over 6 months of age. Seasonal flu vaccine will protect against human swine flu as well as two other strains of influenza. It is available to anyone on prescription and is provided free for the following groups: pregnant women children aged 6 months to 4 years in Western Australia " Comment 64 of 226 DBWookiee of Perth Posted at 2:04 AM Today What did they do, buy the vaccine from Microsoft??? Test subjects are now end users. " we'll work out the problems as they arise " ??? Comment 65 of 226 David Perkins Posted at 3:21 AM Today My mates one year old daughter is fighting for her life in Princess Margret Hospital as we write our comments, she is the one on the news referred to as critical. Give her your prayers and thoughts. Parents dont take anything for granted with a vaccination, make sure it is right for your child. Comment 66 of 226 Kooyong Posted at 3:59 AM Today There is a wealth of information on vaccines at naturalnews dot com. Editor Mike Adams edits this site. Comment 67 of 226 glenn Posted at 3:59 AM Today why the hell would you get a child vaccinated against the flu ,are you all friggin nuts Comment 68 of 226 Island Boy of hanakapi'ai HI Posted at 4:51 AM Today Well if anyone who has seen the TV series " V " would have bo doubt about what is going on. Comment 69 of 226 Julie Ripon of Ballarat, Vic Posted at 5:22 AM Today I purchased two flu vaccines and was going to take my son 5 year old son to the doctor today until, this news story. I paid $15 each for the vaccine - can I take them back a refund? If not, it's a small price to pay I guess for not having to go through what everyone else above has. Comment 70 of 226 Anthony of Coffs Posted at 5:27 AM Today Flu vacs are only a scam for the government to give there drug dealing mates heaps of money Comment 71 of 226 Steph Fennell Posted at 5:58 AM Today Physiological reaction after a vaccination is a good thing! It's a sign that your immune system is mounting a defence against the antigen. The better the defence, the better the vaccine has worked. That's the whole point - you need your body to recognise and be able to vigorously fight the bug next time the body encounters it. I am sick of uneducated people banging on about how sick the vaccine made them and how it's so bad for people. How would you feel if your kids actually came down with influenza? You have a greater problem than a fever for a few hours. The medial community are well aware that you are likely to come down with a fever, aches and pains etc, it's an immune response people. Get over it! Comment 72 of 226 Mark of gold coast Posted at 6:29 AM Today It's time there was a royal comission into the usefullness/dangers of vaccination. Comment 73 of 226 Nugget of Maryborough QLD Posted at 6:43 AM Today Once you are vaccinated the side effects are irreversable who is accountable for these vaccines that are so blantly false, is it the Doctors that are brainwashed by the big pharmaceutical companies that tell us we are all deficient in drugs,what a load of crap. Doctors today do not even study health,they study disease,therefore they treat symptoms and not the cause,they are taught virtually nothing about nutrition,wellness or disease prevention expecting your doctor to guide you on health issues is like expecting your accountant to pilot a jet airliner its something that he or she has never been trained in, even a genius cannot teach you something they know nothing about, pharmaceutical drugs do not prevent any diseases, your body has no biological need for any pharmaceuticals at all, people who believe they need pharmaceuticals have simply been the victims of fabricated consent engineered by clever advertising by the big pharmaceutical companies, if you believe them we have virtually no role in our own health or healing,its all managed by their drugs, its all a big lie that vaccines will cure disease, they are not even looking for a cure, a patient cured is a patient lost, Comment 74 of 226 Hasn't only happened in WA of NSW Posted at 6:45 AM Today " ...the reported side effects had only happened in WA " . Wrong - we're in NSW. My two children (4 and 6) along with my wife and me were vaccinated four weeks ago. The kids both were up that night with 39 degree temps and our 4 year old son was particularly ill - if we hadn't been so far away from a hospital, we would have taken him there. My wife and I also had temps and headaches all the next day. We've been told the children need a second shot (about now) but we will need to pull out. Just because WA is the only state offering free vaccinations doesn't preclude those who have (very foolishly it turns out) paid for the vaccinations in other states. Comment 75 of 226 Concerned of Perth Posted at 6:46 AM Today It is best to build up a natural immunity - drug companies use scare tatics and unfortunately Health Departments world wide go along with them. You usually find people who die from influenza have other underlying medical conditions. Where these vaccines manufactured locally or like so many other products " made in China " or another overseas country. Obvisously not tested fully. Comment 76 of 226 Simone Meyer of Karratha WA Posted at 6:49 AM Today I had my 18 month old vaccinated in Karratha WA a week ago. She also had high temp and very unsettled for a few days. Comment 77 of 226 Mum of 2 Posted at 6:55 AM Today For those of you who said you received no information regarding side effects, you should definitely talk to your GP. Every single time I vaccinate my children (not just for flu) I am given a very thorough information sheet and my GP discusses all the risks involved prior to administering the vaccination. There are risks involved with any vaccination. If this particular batch of flu vaccine is posing a greater than normal risk, I hope they sort it out quickly. In saying that, I would much rather a child with a fever than a child with influenza.. Comment 78 of 226 Z of Perth Posted at 6:59 AM Today Yumm got to love that Mercury and Squalene cocktail. Yummo. Comment 79 of 226 Katina of Adelaide Posted at 7:05 AM Today I've just spent the whole night up with my 3 1/2 year old who had a 40.6 degree temperature along with vomiting and jerking/shivering after having the flu vax yesterday at 11am. Was extremely scary. Not happy to hear this story today. Makes you wonder whether the correct and adequate research has been undertaken or whether it is part of a money making scheme! Comment 80 of 226 Blah of Perth Posted at 7:08 AM Today High temperatures are a common side effect when young children are given any vaccination. Most of the time, these side effects are made known to parents and if not the parent should be asking what the side effects are. Not to ask would just be negligent. Obviously the side effects of this vaccination in young children should have been studied for longer. But I certainly wouldn't have given it to my child who is under five anyway. Shame on the health dept for not doing more thorough testing for young children. Comment 81 of 226 Sydneymum of Sydney Posted at 7:14 AM Today It doesn't seem like this has happened just in WA, or for children immunised within the last day or so. I am in Sydney and my 18 month old daughter had the injection a few weeks ago. She ended up with a 40 degree temperature that would not respond to Panadol, vomiting and a high heart rate. At Royal North Shore they had three other children admitted the same day after having the injection with similar symptoms. The triage nurse told us she had seen " many " children with the similar symptoms after having the injection. The doctor on duty also informed us that the government had not even issued a Fact Sheet at that stage. Very worrying indeed. Comment 82 of 226 Dee Posted at 7:18 AM Today This is a disgrace and should not be happening at all. I know someone whose workplace had a free vaccinations session recently and most of the people ended up sick after they were vaccinated with the new combined H1N1 vaccine. Even the staff member that arranged the whole thing on behalf of the company had to go home sick right after it. Some were still off a few days later and others complaining of soreness and malaise. It is obvious it is the vaccine that does this - why do idiot doctors and so called professions still keep insisting " ooooh it can't be the vaccine " . Do they think we are all as stupid as they are! Comment 83 of 226 Alvin of Perth Posted at 7:27 AM Today I think we are very much test subjects thus the free jab. No thank you Comment 84 of 226 Al Posted at 7:28 AM Today The Government and Medical specialist keep telling us these vaccines are safe.... and yet we still have these reactions. Is it any wonder people are refusing to get their kids vaccinated ? These vaccines are tested, against a small section of the community which is supposed to give a representation of the general population... So, Your Children are the test subjects. - For everything your GP wants to shoot into your child: Ask what the difference is between an adult dose and a child dose, ask what the adverse reactions could be, ask what the chances are of an adverse reaction is. If you are not satisfied with the answers, dont get the shot ! You DO have a legal right to refuse vaccinations to your child. You will NOT be stopped from sending your child to school, it will NOT affect any Family Assistance payments. Stick up for the health of your child, as the government cannot. Comment 85 of 226 Richard of Como Posted at 7:28 AM Today My duaghter also had an extreme reaction three weeks ago and we took her to PMH with a 40 degree temperature and heart rate over 220. Very scary and not something I would ever want to experience again. While at PMH, they said they had seen a steady stream of kids in with the same reaction since Feb, and there was another child in with the same reaction while we were there. Clearly there is something wrong here. I just hope that its not soemthing that has had a long term effect on my child. Comment 86 of 226 Kay of yokine Posted at 7:29 AM Today Unbelievable. Comment 87 of 226 Pat Posted at 7:30 AM Today This is terrible but not at all surprising. It was always a matter of time until something like this happened to children. Many dog owners have learned the hard way about the risks from vaccination. My service dog suffered neurologically within hours of her 'routine' vaccination booster and almost died as a result. I subsequently Googled 'Dogs + Vaccination + Adverse reaction' and disovered that routine 'boosters' constitute risk without benefit. If anyone tries this little exercise and then doesn't doubt that there is overwhelming evidence suggestive of a conspiracy involving those who benefit from the practice then they need their head examined. Vaccine manufactures have a lot to gain from effectively promoting their product and consumers perhaps should be more wary of blindly accepting what they are told by those who benefit from their compliance. Comment 88 of 226 cjay of wa Posted at 7:37 AM Today I dont think it is only children under 5 having reactions. My 6 year old had his flu shot on tuesday morning and by dinner time was feeling lethagic so he went to bed early. By 7pm he had a really high temp, but thankfully nothing eventuated from it. I think the health department needs to be aware of these facts, so other parents of children older than this age are aware. I will be ringing the GP today to advise of the reaction and I urge all other parents whose children have had any kind of symptoms to do the same. Maybe then the government will stop " all " flu vacinations. This is the first time I have had my children vacinnated against the flu, and only did so under the advise of the local GP because we are travelling overseas soon. I however, will not be giving them to the kids next year. Comment 89 of 226 My mother told me Posted at 7:42 AM Today Well thank god I went with my gut feeling and said NO to the pushy nurse who wanted to vax my 3 year old. Being pregnant, I had the flu vax as I have had it many times before with no drama. Damned if you do damned if you don't but in this case I am glad I DIDN'T with my tot! Atleast I can fight it and know what is going on with my body, a 3 year old doesn't. Comment 90 of 226 JS of Perth Posted at 7:42 AM Today I'm a luxury car salesman and I already had queries from some of my lawyer clients - keep it coming! Comment 91 of 226 understanding Posted at 7:43 AM Today I wonder how many of these kids will end up falling into the autism spectrum disorder? Give lots of vitamin C and omega supplements. Comment 92 of 226 Arwen of WA Posted at 7:47 AM Today Maybe it's the luck of the draw and/or a bad batch (seeing that it's only reported in WA at the moment)... I'm an adult with low immune system, and I get the free flu vax for health issues every year. Some years I have fever peaks after the vaccine, some years I don't have any reaction at all. Comment 93 of 226 SamRocks26 Posted at 7:51 AM Today No the government never think before hand - to get to the point though these vaccines are a " watered " down version of the virus and I think they should be trailed and tested stringently before being released to the public. Even normal immunisations cause horrible reactions when my son got his pneumococcal vaccine he had a high temp vomiting and had a disgusting raised rash like he had measles for like a week that is why I have not given my kids the flu jab and I will certainly not be getting it myself - my best friend got her kids and herself done in January and all three of them were sick for 3 weeks with high temps, vomiting, diareah and the like and even now my friend has noticed that the last 2 years they got the jabs that they have gotten sick more then when they hadnt had them. I think the government needs to stop scaring people into having these shots I mean this is a new vaccine for a new flu strain and obviously hasnt been tested accordingly they just want to rush it out there - trust me people your kids are better off without the shots Comment 94 of 226 Brent of Perth Posted at 7:51 AM Today And thats why i have never had and never will have one of these things, not worth the risks. Not enough testing is done on these things before roll out. Comment 95 of 226 curious Posted at 7:56 AM Today These reactions so far are being reported as only occurring in WA. Strange indeed, I doubt that we are the only State using these particular batches. I wonder if it has any link to the 'storm' and the subsequent prolonged power outage suffered by our vaccine suppliers? Comment 96 of 226 Skippy of Camillo Posted at 7:56 AM Today I heard last week that if you wanted a flu injection to wait a few weeks. When Perth had that big thunderstorm and heaps of suburbs were out of power for ages, some of the places stocking the flu vaccinations were out of power for some time. I heard that they might not work as efficiently...maybe this has something to do with all these sick kiddies? Comment 97 of 226 HuwGro of Secret Harbour Posted at 8:04 AM Today Quacks won't tell people this but there is evidence to suggest Flu injections, among others, cause Juvenile Diabetes. Comment 98 of 226 Concerned Parent of Victoria Posted at 8:07 AM Today This is not isolated to WA we are in Victoria. Our young one was at the doctors last night - vomitting and high temperature after receiving this flu vaccine and chicken pox immunisation - Doctor had no record of these symptoms being recorded elsewhere. We are now going to report this. Very concerning as parents as you place great trust in the AMA to be on top of these things quickly - it appears someone is not. Question : how widely has this been tested and what contrary indications have been reported and who has followed it up? Comment 99 of 226 Sheesh Posted at 8:08 AM Today http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/04/17/major-vaccine-suspended-due-to-contamination-with-pig-virus.aspx hmmm??? Comment 100 of 226 Sally of Perth Posted at 8:08 AM Today I am very pro-vaccination, and was due to take my 3-year-old for his vaccination next week; however, after reading the tales here from other mothers concerning the condition of their children after recieving the immunisation, I am in a quandry. I would like to know what the difference is between the percentage of children hospitalised due to the vaccine and those hospitilised with influenza? So if anyones has that information, please comment. Comment 101 of 226 Sally of Perth Posted at 8:17 AM Today My 18 month old was vaccinated in Monday and my three year old on Wednesday and both came down with high fevers. My three year old still wasn't right the next day. I wish we had known about this sooner. Comment 102 of 226 nightskywoman` of Perth Posted at 8:19 AM Today This is a terrible story and I know how awful it is to watch your child having convulsions. But have to ask why parents feel the need to have their children vaccinated at such a very very young age. One toddler was only 10 months old!! Did without flu shots in the past so why the need now? Please stop using kids as guinea pigs they are way too precious. Comment 103 of 226 KC of Perth Posted at 8:20 AM Today My son had the vaccine last year and had the sniffles for 1 day - then didn't catch as much as a cold all year (plus he was around sick kids all year round at daycare). Must be a bad batch for this many kids to become so ill. Comment 104 of 226 sue of yangebup Posted at 8:23 AM Today my grandaughter had the shot this week and my daughter was telling me yesterday on skype how sick she was. we did not know about other kids being so sick. My 2 year old grandaughter looked sick and told me, nannie me sick. she had been vomiting and had such a high temp but because i told my daughter she could have a reaction she put up with it but she was scared with severity of it. Comment 105 of 226 LH Posted at 8:32 AM Today I have a 12 month old daughter who is due to be vaccinated for this next week. A few days ago she had a mild fever (under 38) and she had a febrile convulsion - so they can happen regardless of if they have just been vaccinated or not. whilst they look very scary (especially if you don't know what's happening) i was told by all the Dr's they are pretty harmless. i think i would rather deal with a grizzly high temp child for a day or 2 after a vaccine than a grizzly, high temp (plus all the other symptoms)child who had the flu or swine flu which would last for more than a day or 2 and be much more threatening to their health. but i'll await the outcome of the investigation and decide from there. As for this 12 hour businness - don't they mean they are only likely to be affected in the 12 hours after their vaccine - not it will only affect those vaccinated in the last 12 hours???? Comment 106 of 226 Mark of Perth Posted at 8:36 AM Today Comment 18 > unfortunately there is very little testing - of either the flu part of the vaccine or the many other ingredients. We do know that many of the other ingredients are toxic to the body - not just short term but also long term. Unfortunately the profit of major corporations come before your children and mine. They have deep pockets to spend on advertising etc. When a number medical professionals and their families abstain from vaccinations then you get an appreciation of the potential downside. And remember GP's make extra money on reaching quotas. Comment 107 of 226 Sick Twins of Gidgegannup Posted at 8:37 AM Today On Wednesday this week, 1 day before they suspended vaccinations for children under 5, I had my twin girls 2.3 yo get the vaccination, both had high fevers and 1 was sick 3 times thru the night, they seem to both wake up okay in the morning. I really do feel for the parents of the kids that had to be rushed off to hospital because of this vaccination programme, why didn't the nurse that gave the shot;s say something surely they must know. It's fine to say that the could get a slight fever and not feel well, but there is a big difference between that and rushing your child to hospital. Isn't it amazing that OH & S standards within the work place for private companies has reach rediculous level's but the government don't answer to anyone, people should lose their jobs over this absolute stuff up. Comment 108 of 226 Alysia Posted at 8:37 AM Today I was told by a nurse at PMH over a week ago to hold off on giving my 9 month old the flu vacc as it was causing a spike in febrile convulsions and temperatures. Why did the government not err on the side of caution over a week ago when this was already apparent ? I will still be getting him vaccinated when the new batch is released. Comment 109 of 226 Mary Regts of Perth Posted at 8:40 AM Today WA is the testing ground; that is just it! Why else is is free; is it to lessen litigation? Comment 110 of 226 mandurahmum Posted at 8:40 AM Today if you ask about the side effects, you would know that fever, grumpiness, vomiting and diarrhea are listed side effects of any vaccination. it is a personal choice to get a vaccination, one that should be made taking into consideration all aspects. but please do not panic and refuse to get your vaccinated for any illness, through injections we have been able to wipe out many diseases that kill children. if third world countries had access to our health programs their childhood mortality rates would be significantly less Comment 111 of 226 mother of 4 darlings Posted at 8:47 AM Today i had my 4 children aged 10,6,3 and 2 vaccinated early last week and within 6 hours they all had high temps, vomiting and aches in their body. By morning they were feeling a little better but still no quite themselves, i also had the vaccine i didn't get as sick as them but did not quite feel my normal self, I am very mad about this you are told this is the best way to prevent your child from getting sick and yet this happens what is going on, this needs to be investigated more my three younger ones need another shot in a months time i don't think i will letting them have them. Comment 112 of 226 Nikki Posted at 8:52 AM Today RE:Educated Mum! Posted at 8:12 PM April 22, 2010 Apparent;y not educated at all otherwise you would know that the flu jab does not cover the swine flu!!! Two very different injuections, back to being educated for you.....and my advice is DON'T DO IT!!!! Comment 113 of 226 love my gut feeling Posted at 8:55 AM Today So glad i went with my gut and riped up the letter from medicare please dont put that rubbish in your child or you Healing thoughts to the children that are still sick from the meds Comment 114 of 226 Dave of Perth Posted at 8:56 AM Today Flu jabs can't make you sick as they have an innactive strain of the flue. Right??? How many time have you beent old that only to get very sick afterwards. Comment 115 of 226 Dr Lajoie Posted at 9:06 AM Today An obvious side-effect of vaccination, and they recommend to treat in with another drug. A fever is a defense mechanism that indicates something has invaded the body. There is no such thing as a bad batch, only experimental batches!! Comment 116 of 226 The Clairvoyant of WA Posted at 9:08 AM Today No way would I either subject my child to this 'vaccine' or have it put into me. Stay away from people who are coughiong and sneezing, wash your hands a lot and take plenty of vitamin C. There is mercury, pig matter and a lot of other unsavoury material in these 'vaccines'. Comment 117 of 226 M Posted at 9:09 AM Today After the hail storm a couple of weeks ago, we were told at work that we had to wait for our shots another week because the flu vaccine had been contaminated after a power failure ( presumably from the storm). Now the health dept is saying there could be a bad batch behind the Worse than normal bad reactions?????my 2 yr old son had a fairly bad reaction on we'd to this years shot. He had no reaction last year. Face it, we ( the non conspiricist theory masses) get vaccinated because we put our faith in our health professionals because they know more about these things and I'm fine with that. If it turns out they have dropped the ball with providing bad batches of vaccine and taking so long (weeks) to do anything about it then I'll be using the legal professionals to get retribution. Comment 118 of 226 Sue of Perth Posted at 9:10 AM Today My boys,7 and 4, were vaccinated three weeks ago. No side effects. People don't die from vaccinations but people have died from the flu. I am so happy to live in an age where people have a choice of getting some sort of protection. Comment 119 of 226 Sue of Victoria Posted at 9:16 AM Today My 3 year old grandson was hospitalised with very high temp and convulsions, after getting a flu shot that morning. He had to endure a lumber puncture and had an I.V for 24 hours. Was this a co-incidence? He was not ill at all, and has never experienced fevers like that, and he has not had a flu shot before. Medical staff could/would not blame the vac; but strongly suggested he not have another. We are in country Victoria - I believe this 'bad batch' is more widespread than W.A. Comment 120 of 226 Never Gonna Vaccinate of Western Australia Posted at 9:17 AM Today I have a 12 week old baby girl and have not and will never give her a single vaccination of ANY kind, READ WHAT IS IN THEM PEOPLE! open your eyes they are full of chemicals and heavy metals and other things that are just not good for a adult let alone a tiny baby!! Comment 121 of 226 One Hundred Buckets of Fish Posted at 9:19 AM Today Just because it's free doesn't mean you have to take it. I was bullied by a previous workplace as I repeatedly refused to have the shots. Every person there got sick, and somehow I managed to dodge it. Karma? Or just luck of the draw? Either way, you have the right to choose if you immunise or not. Comment 122 of 226 Go the Magpies of Perth Posted at 9:25 AM Today The reason the Minister is saying only if your child has had the vaccine in the last 12 hours, is because the side effects would have subsided by now, so only keep a closer eye on those who have had it the most recently....DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH PEOPLE!! Comment 123 of 226 JJ of Beechboro Posted at 9:35 AM Today Anthony of Coffs, I like your comment. There are definitely legal and illegal drug dealers in this country! Please parents, make informed choices. Comment 124 of 226 Jane Posted at 9:36 AM Today PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE people research the effects of vaccinations before you give them to your children. I was like everyone else & believed what we were all being told, but then when I had my first baby I decided to investigate further. I was horrified by what I read, & no it wasn't " unreliable " internet sources I got my information from (though of course there are many reliable sources on the internet now - Dr Mercola being one of them). I got books out from the library. As a result of my research I have not vaccinated my children. I rarely tell people that as there is such fear about non-vaccinated children. My eldest is now in her late teens & all of my children are very healthy. They have only had the occasional cold & that is not even every year. I worry for these children that are given so many vaccines, they are giving them more & more nowadays. There are links to autism from the MMR vaccine. Please don't just believe what you are told. Research thoroughly & not just the government websites. Then, if you still wish to vaccinate, know that you are doing it fully informed & not because you have been told to do it. Our kids have no say in what we do to them! Comment 125 of 226 Lisa of Perth Posted at 9:36 AM Today I am so sorry to hear about all these sick kids, and I pray they all get better. I was one of the lucky ones - I had all 3 of my kids (age 2,4 & 6) & myself vaccinated last week & we had no side effects at all. Like past comments I also heard that the blackout caused problems & alot of batches had to be destroyed - did they destroy them???? Comment 126 of 226 doug of Perth Posted at 9:39 AM Today To SEH, comment 48, yes your son is just very lucky. Immunizations work and have wiped out many diseases and are well on the way to wiping out more. If you look at the numbers kids who aren't immunized are far more likely to get measles than kids who were. That said, this flu vaccine is a bit of a worry and people do need to be careful Comment 127 of 226 Dianne of Wanneroo of Wanneroo Posted at 9:40 AM Today Help combat flu in your children. Cook chicken (free range) with fresh vegies, and whole knob of garlic (take skin off & leave pieces whole). Take chicken out after an hour & half simmering, remove bones, and fatty skin, but leave some skin with the chicken - cut up chicken and add back to soup plus ctn chicken stock. Add small soup pasta & cook for further 20 mins. Secret is garlic - add garlic to potatoes (whole garlic pieces) when boiling for mashed potatoes - if you leave pieces garlic whole (less skin) then you don't get huge garlic taste throughout you meal. If child has flu, each night cut an onion and place each half on sauce and put on cupboard either side of child. The onion absorbs bacteria, throw away in the morning and keep repeating when child sleeps. Rub chest with Vicks and gently 'pummel' back and massage to release any mucus. Healing touch of mothers/parents hands are a great healer and hum softly whilst rocking them from time to time. Plenty sips water and bath forehead and back of neck and feet Comment 128 of 226 Sam of NSW Posted at 9:46 AM Today This happened with the swine flu vaccine too, but the media covered it up. Comment 129 of 226 atarah of perth Posted at 9:48 AM Today isnt it funny-- Everyone is coming out and telling their dangerous stories of vaccines. Wake up parents.. its not safe to vaccitnate Comment 130 of 226 Atirah of perth Posted at 9:50 AM Today PMH hospital needs business- without vaccines there wont be ill children... without ill children-- No PMH hospital--Big business... kids were never sick like this in the old days... Comment 131 of 226 Alphabet of Perth Posted at 9:54 AM Today It is quite normal for young kids to get high temperatures and aches following any vaccines but the problem with this flu vaccine in particular seems to be the high number with vomiting and convulsions which are much rarer and more serious side-effects. Come on parents, educate yourselves - don't take the governments word for it but try to do some research and make your own decisions. I won't tell anyone to vaccinate or not to vaccinate: the decision is the parents alone, but at least ask some questions before making that decision. For the record, our 2.5 year-old has not had the flu vaccine. Comment 132 of 226 Kylie of Perth Posted at 9:55 AM Today Our government provides certain vaccines for free in the best interest of our community, all medications we give ourselves and our children are given on a risk v benefit scenario. We immunised our self and our children because the risks of immunisation are far less than the risk of contracting the disease they prevent against. Comment 133 of 226 Jasmine B of West Perth Posted at 9:57 AM Today would everyone who has had adverse reactions PLEASE report them?? unless there is an uprising of people & parents that want to know the real truth then the government & big pharma will never be held responsible. Consider your children lucky it was only a fever & not something more sinister or fatal, as with other vaccine reactions. Comment 134 of 226 Ryan of Perth Posted at 10:04 AM Today Out of love i tell you, do not take your children to get any vaccinations. They are sponsored by a government who has no concern for a righteous God and his ways. I would not be surprised if vaccinations are part of a plan by elements of the NWO who are attempting to inject us with a ticking time bomb. The NWO make no secret of the fact that their primary goal is to reduce the population by 5 billion odd. Pray to God for help, we need it. Comment 135 of 226 Pox Posted at 10:06 AM Today These are the side affects. Deal with it or get sick! Comment 136 of 226 unimpressed of perth Posted at 10:10 AM Today Understanding-92 Autism is a genetic problem, we as parents pass on Autism to our children, my child doctor explained this to me. My daughter has high functioning Autism and yes she had Autism before she had vaccinations. Comment 137 of 226 Finn of Perth Posted at 10:15 AM Today " kids were never sick like this in the old days... " Mostly because pre-vaccinations, they tended to DIE. Seriously. Vaccinations are the reason you never suffered from rubella, polio or a number of terrible diseases. The anti-vaccination crowd claim substances like thiomersal and MMR in vaccines caused autism. They removed MMR from vaccinations. The numbers of cases of autism still went up. The main proponent of the anti-vaccination movement was recently disbarred as a medical doctor because his " Research " on the issue was found to be flawed and unethical. And guess what? Diseases like whooping cough and polio, once considered to be " wiped out " ? They're coming back, because the anti-vaccination crowd prey upon fear and ignorance. Ten minutes of *proper* research would show this. Comment 138 of 226 Ryan of Perth Posted at 10:15 AM Today Any lawyers keen for a fight against pharma? I don't condone civil court action but these people need a check. Comment 139 of 226 angry Posted at 10:16 AM Today This is not just limited to kids. My dad who has a heart condition was given the vaccine as to prevent the flu because it would be unsafe to his heart, within hrs he developed a temerature of 41.5 degrees and he was shaking violently and vomitting!. He was admited to the emergency where his blood pressure plummeted to 40/20 and he slipped briefly in to a COMA!!!! All because of a flu jab!! He is ok now but he said never again! He gave us a huge scare! This is not just limited to kids but to adults with other conditions! Comment 140 of 226 Perth Dad of Perth Posted at 10:20 AM Today My daughter, 11 months old got high temp up to 39 after 9 hours for the flu injection on April 19, 2001, together with the swine flu injection. My elder daughter, 6 years, just got swine flu at the same day, and OK. Comment 141 of 226 tyrus of perth Posted at 10:23 AM Today autism is caused by vaccines- no doubt about it. Im a nanny and the child I look after had the mmr shot and then austism struck... Comment 142 of 226 Busta Hymen of Fremantle Posted at 10:34 AM Today It seams that a lot of people in Australia don't know about natural vaccinations. Go see a Naturopath and find out how easy and reliable they are. My family members only vaccinate this way and have no side affects and are all in good health. Food for thought hey Comment 143 of 226 Kylie of Perth Posted at 10:36 AM Today Jane while I understand your choice not to vaccinate your children, and that they have been healthy, I think it is worth noting that one of the reasons your children were able to get to adulthood without any serious illnesses is the fact that the vast majority of children are vaccinated in our society. As someone who works in health care, I routinely see children contract preventable diseases because they are either too young to be vaccinated, and they have come in contacted with an unimmunised child or they have never been vaccinated themselves. If you are choosing consientious objection to immunisation you should be aware of what the diseases we are trying to protect our children from are, and what they can do. Some of them can be extremely dangerous, that's why we immunise against them. If nothing else, swine flu should have taught us that. I have seen way too many people critically ill from swine flu, with their lives in danger, and we are not expecting this year to be much different. I too know many people who have had a fever following this years flu immunisation, but for me I would rather have that than influenza. Comment 144 of 226 concerned mum of 2 Posted at 10:39 AM Today i am so glad i have my two boys (both under 5) booked in to have their flu vac's in 2 weeks time - hopefully all should be ok by then! my eldest son had a febrile convulsion at 9 months of age - scariest thing i have ever experienced! Comment 145 of 226 Practical Mum of Perth Posted at 10:40 AM Today I have two kids under 5, myself and them had flu vacc's last year and we all still got the flu badly. This year, no vacc (especially now), i will deal with the flu when/or if they get it as with any other illness they might get. These flu strains seem to constantly mutate and form new strains that isn't covered by the vacc's. Last year we all got the flu at various times, and by staying home, isolated, resting and dealing with symptoms as they arise...we all recovered each time within about 4 days. This included high fevers, vomitting, headaches. I still fully support the immunisation programm for the major illnesses such as: measles, TB, rubella, etc. But it is scary that this current flu vacc can bring on such high fevers and feverile convulstions...i'm not willing to risk the chance of seizures. I think it is still healthy to keep questioning what is going into our bodies, and keep the health dept and practitioners on their toes....and we are all blindly putting alot of trust into a health dept chosen third party (drug making company), that they are making, storing, transporting these drugs safely....when a drug making's main concern is making money. Comment 146 of 226 EL of nowhere near a hospital Posted at 10:41 AM Today why would a parent vaccinate a child I wonder! Do you research on what these vaccinations consist of then ask would you inject yourself and your loved ones with these poisons. Comment 147 of 226 mum of special boy Posted at 10:45 AM Today My son had a 30 minute long febrile convulsion 2 weeks ago today after receiving the flu needle. When we took him to PMH after thinking he was going to die because he was making choking noises, they said they had already had a lot of kids through that were febrile after the flu injection. I'll never let anyone give him one again. Comment 148 of 226 koji parent Posted at 10:47 AM Today My 3yr old was vaccinated 4 weeks ago - no sign of any side effect. But then none of my 4 children over the last 16 yrs have ever had a bad side effect from any vaccine. Just lucky I guess. Comment 149 of 226 bob Posted at 10:55 AM Today Finn. While your comments are perhaps spot on in regards to imunisation in general, this is a different case entirely. I agree that the small risk of side effects is offset by the greater good of vacinations. However in this case they have got it wrong and are guilty of acting too slowly. Serious side effects have been presented to the hospital for weeks now that are signifcantly above what would be considered normal and they have been covered up and not disclosed to the public. Somthing is cerainly wrong with this particular injection - i know too many babies who have needed to go to hospital, some very sick. The way doctors grand-stand on this issue and suggest that non-doctors are not entitled to an opinion is dangerous. People are shouted down if they ever question vacinations and what we are seeing is a result of the arrogance of the medical profession. Comment 150 of 226 Marlene from Mullaloo of Communications from The Krib Posted at 10:57 AM Today omg I am so pleased my girlfriend did'nt take her baby to have it. When I mentioned it to her, she was adamant that as she was/is breast feeding, her baby would be receiving enough antibodies. I feel so sorry for anyone whose baby is ill as a result of this, poor parents trying to protect their babies as best they can. Comment 151 of 226 TheMoreILearnTheLessIKnow of Perth Posted at 10:57 AM Today Finn of Perth, i spent over 18mnths studying research on pro's and con's of vaccines. I concluded that if I had time back, I would not vaccinate my kids, although they are up to speed. Why fix what's not broke? However, i am not against vaccinating against main diseases, but everything else?? In my humble opinion we need to eat well and do everything to support our brilliant immune system. illnesses come in cycles and can coincide with breaks in vaccinations. From research I looked at some thoughts on the matter was that in the far distant future, vaccines will be seen as the biggest faux par of the 21st century. Shame we won't live long enough to find out if this is true. I have worked with many swine flu patients during the outbreak here and was luckily never sick but I lived on good grub, and immune supplements. All opinions/rights to vaccinate should be personal and respectful, no one should be forced either way. Whether an outbreak is down to lack of shots or not, is something we may well find out in the future. Either way, I would not want my kids to get every vaccine going, just because, just in case. Why not have a bit of chemo, just in case... Comment 152 of 226 Perth chic of Perth Posted at 11:00 AM Today There are so many ill informed people out there. The whole anti-Vac movement is a nightmare. Just because your child does not get the vac it affects the immunity of the entire population. Just think about the little girl who died last year of whoping cough as she was too young to be immunised. She caught it from other children WHO HAD NOT been vaccinated as their parents have the stupid attitude that the kids need to catch all the kiddy diseases to toughen their immune system up!!!!! Stupid, selfish, uneducated morons. Kids need to be vaccinated for their health and for the health of others. Comment 153 of 226 tan sw of Bunbury Posted at 11:02 AM Today My daughter is 7 and had the injection last Monday, woke up feeling sick in the tummy with a high temperature, makes us as parents wondering if we have done the right thing. My four year old has to wait due to having her 4 year old needles, so now we will question what to do in 5 weeks,! ! ! Comment 154 of 226 Jac of WA Posted at 11:02 AM Today Dave Perkins Comment 66,I hope your friends 1 year old daughter will be ok,She is in my thoughts and prayers. Comment 155 of 226 Father of Three Posted at 11:03 AM Today koji parent: You're not " just lucky " , you're one of the 99.9 per cent who have no problems with vaccinations. And your children are lucky to have a parent like you who has acted responsibly to protect them from some of the most horrific diseases known to man. My children are lucky for the same reason. Well done!? Comment 156 of 226 Dr Common Sense Posted at 11:09 AM Today To those who say their child had high temps (no other symptoms) that is just a common side effect of having any vaccination?!?!?! Some of you are getting a bit carried away. (my post is NOT directed to those whose children suffered from convulsions) Comment 157 of 226 unimpressed of perth Posted at 11:10 AM Today tyrus of perth -142 the child would have had Autism at birth,there are alot of types of Autism. Perhaps this child has a different disorder, kids are born with Autism or maybe the parents didn't know the signs? Comment 158 of 226 Dapperado of out west Posted at 11:18 AM Today Are the vaccines stored correctly and do they have historical data on the temperatures they are stored at? https://www.tim4biz.com/products/environmental-monitoring/?ref=1 Comment 159 of 226 J Morris Posted at 11:21 AM Today I had my 16 month old and 3 year old vacinated yesterday afternoon and they are absolutely fine! Hope it stays that way! Comment 160 of 226 GJ of cannington Posted at 11:22 AM Today My dear jesus, what can I say. I vaccinated my 4 year old daughter for the first time only becos we planned for a holiday overseas and I just wanted the best for her. But when I watched yesterdays news @ 6.00, I was speechless and I am not just out of the shock yet.I just thought I was doing something good and looks like as a mother I have failed to protect my child putting my faith on the medical professionals. Though she didn't develop any symptoms,this worries me a lot. How many poor kids and moms. What kind of a health system this is? Just can't beleive. Comment 161 of 226 Mother of 1 of Edgewater Posted at 11:24 AM Today My 14 month old son had his swine flu/regular flu shot a month ago and was absolutely fine. I strongly believe it may be a bad batch however this is really not good enough for the hundreds of worried parents out there that are constantly questioning whether they are doing the right thing by their child. It certainly doesn't give you confidence when these issues arise however I believe each to their own. It is your individual choice as to whether you vaccinate your child and you shouldn't be made to feel guilty if you do or don't take this action. Consequences will at times arise and generally it arises a lot more when we do not vaccinate. Parents need to be informed and make knowledgable decisions rather then jumping on the vaccinations are not good band wagon. I am confident as a parent that I have done the right thing by my child. Comment 162 of 226 Dapperado of out west Posted at 11:34 AM Today TIM4biz environmental monitoring and alerting As environmental, industrial and system conditions becomes more important in the workplace so do the alerting, environmental legal, monitoring, and reporting requirements. The seemingly simple task of monitoring refrigeration requires at least three temperature measurements taken and logged per day per refrigeration device. Maintaining a consistent logging, reporting and archival record is a necessary but time consuming and typically inconsistent and variable process. TIM4biz environmental monitoring provides minute-by-minute logging with samples used for immediate alerting and archived for historic reporting. Reports are available in a variety of text and graphic formats online and can be automatically scheduled and delivered via email. www.tim4biz.com Comment 163 of 226 Another Perth Parent Posted at 11:37 AM Today I'll add to the list. We had a 7, 4 and 2 yr old vaccinated on Monday. That night they were all burning up and all needed Panadol, very unsettled night for all. I was worried enough to be googling for known side effects to the annual flu shot, it was very obviously related. My wife had it same day and was affected also but not anywhere near the same extent. We all have it every year and never had anything like this. Comment 164 of 226 Father of one of Perth Posted at 11:38 AM Today To those who oppose vaccinations, look back in history at the millions of lives saved from vaccines (e.g. measles, polio, influenzae). The side effects (transient fever, vomiting) with the flu vaccination is in my opinion a very small price to pay for protection against the flu which can definitely kill. Have we forgotten that many healthy young people died from swine flu last year? Most of the people who don't vaccinate their kids are hypocritical as they depend on everybody else vaccinating theirs to protect their own kids from getting sick (herd immunity). People need to grow up, get educated and informed. The conspiracy theories about the government and big pharmaceuticals trying to poison the population are ridiculous and very far fetched. The Government wants people to be vaccinated so that the hospitals (which are already busting if you haven't noticed) don't fill up with kids/adults with measles and flu. Comment 165 of 226 Mother of 3 under 5 of Success Posted at 11:48 AM Today I had all my 3 boys vaccinated for flu too and all had 39 degree temp and vomiting within 6 hours of the injection too. Im unaware even if they had febrile convulsion as they woke crying in the middle of the night. Comment 166 of 226 Confused Mum Posted at 11:50 AM Today I'm confused here, is this 'flu shot' different to the 12mths old immunisation? Because my 12 mths old is due for the immunisation and i dont know what to do here..... Comment 167 of 226 Miles Ruhl of Perth Posted at 11:51 AM Today Well my first question is what the heck are you vaccinating against the flu for!?! Maybe if you are 85 and quite sick already, but not healthy people and kids. Healthy people will be fine, just feel a bit crappy for a few days and kids it will build up their immune system NATURALLY. Natural eh, well there's a thought! Talk about panic over nothing. Harden up people, the flu is part of life!!! Comment 168 of 226 Watcher of the real world Posted at 11:52 AM Today We all had our annual flu shot on Monday - hubby myself and 3 children. It was the combined flu shot. No side effects for us this year, not even a corked arm. We started vaccinating our children against the flu 4 years ago and every day I am thankful I did. My son at age 3.5 was in a small group of children who came into contact with both influenza A and strep B at the same time...of this group of children, one little boy died, his brother was very very ill for weeks. Three quarters of the children in that group contracted influenza A and were quite ill for a fortnight. Four of them hospitalized. My son had a sore throat from the strep B and that's it. It was after this combination influenza A/Strep B killed 4 otherwise healthy young WA children under 5 within weeks of each other that the govt started offering the free flu jab for under 5's. So yes, ordinary everyday illnesses can combine to kill. Comment 169 of 226 Hmmm Posted at 11:53 AM Today GJ of cannington Posted at 11:22 AM Today " How many poor kids and moms " Do Dads not matter?? Comment 170 of 226 Mother of 3 of Secret Harbour Posted at 11:58 AM Today motherofperth - Is it so hard for you to do your own research?? Why does the govt need to do it for you? Also the Govt didnt make your child ill. YOU chose to have your child vaccinated, they gave you a choice, they didnt force it on you. My kids all get Vaccinated as I have done my own research and found that the benefits far outweigh the side effects. Nikki Posted at 8:52 AM Today - she obviously IS educated as this years flu vac was combined with the swine flu vac. From the QLD Govt website - Yes, the 2010 winter seasonal influenza vaccine includes the human swine influenza antigen as well as two other influenza antigens. Why should my kids have to put up with unvaccinated kids in their class rooms. 2yrs ago I was told that I needed to leave work to get my childs current immunisation status report from Medicare as another child had whooping cough and as a precautionary measure all kids that werent vaccinated were being excluded from class until they were cleared by a Dr. I have no respect for people who are willing to put MY children in danger through their own selfish beliefs Comment 171 of 226 Philboy of Perth Posted at 11:58 AM Today Better a temporary high fever than the flu these shots prevent, these flu bugs KILL kids and older/sick people. I'm having mine today. Comment 172 of 226 J.M. of Perth Posted at 11:58 AM Today Sorry to hear about all the little ones who have had such bad reactions. I hope they recover with no permanent issues. I found it ironic that even though we have CO forms on file for both of our children, the government still mailed us a letter telling us to bring our youngest in for a free flu jab. Hmm...do they bother to check who has filed CO forms? Why would someone who objects to " regular " vaccinations bring in their child for a flu jab? I'm sure we're not the only ones who received the letter. Imagine all the tax money wasted on postage...sigh...bureaucracy at its best! Comment 173 of 226 Flying of the handle Posted at 12:00 PM Today Bad batch or not the fact is there is not enough long term research into vaccinations in general. There is no doubt that some very dangerous diseases have been bought under control by mass vaccination. The other fact is it has also caused many healthy children to develop Autism and other brain disorders like ADD ADHD. The danger of mass infection outbreaks is less than the danger of complications (some difficult to prove). Dont endanger your healthy child. Dont vaccinate. Comment 174 of 226 Rosie of Floreat Posted at 12:03 PM Today I had my two children (3 years and 16 months) vaccinated about 2 weeks ago. It was my 3 year old's third flu vac and my 16 month old's first half dose. No side effects at all. I am just wondering do I risk getting my 16 month old vaccinated again in a month's time for his second half dose???????? Comment 175 of 226 MomofToddlerNOR of Joondalup Posted at 12:03 PM Today I am glad I held off, not keen on giving vaccinations for ordinary type diseases, like the flu. However, I think people are misreading the advice. The danger period that the health department is giving is within the 12 hours after the vaccination, not just vaccines used in the last 12 hours. I always give Nurofen prior to vaccinations which against the reccomendation, but mu toddler has never had a fever after any vaccinations. Not sure if this has any bearing on the matter. Comment 176 of 226 Concerned of Perth Posted at 12:03 PM Today It was a matter of time... Lets look at how a flu vaccine is processed. Firstly the virus is isolated. The vaccine is then developed, it is then tested (we are led to believe) and then production occurs. This process takes at least several months. We know also the flu virus is mutating all the time. So when we get the flu shot we are being immunised against a virus that hit sydney about 6 months ago that may or may not ever have come to Perth. The Swine flu scare was the perfect opportunity for the government to say we can't vaccinate against it- we've got nothing... So everyone needs to be as fit as you can, strengthen your immune system, eat well, sleep well, etc. But no- stay inside, stay away from everyone, and we'll rush through the next vaccine. This will not be the last scare with these vaccines as they rush them through quicker and quicker. I really do hope all the kids affected by this are alright Comment 177 of 226 Seekthetruth Posted at 12:05 PM Today People this is so terrible. Look at what is happening to our beautiful children!!! Anyone who had a child react to this vaccine or any vaccine for that matter, you should be angry!!!! I chose not to vaccinate my children after spending hours of reading up on the issues with vaccine ingredients, safety and efficacy. It's a disgrace how governments bow down to pharmacuetical companies multi billion dollar strong hold over our so called best interests and 'health'. Vaccines are making us sick! Bottom line. If your child had a bad reaction, get angry and be sure to let the media know how you feel too. I'm tired of the totally biased pro vaccine arguments we see in the media on a regular basis. Stand up for your child and be heard!! Please this is a perfect oppurtunity. Comment 178 of 226 Confidence of own immunity Posted at 12:07 PM Today Comment 153, get your facts straight, the poor child that died from whooping cough because she was too young to be vaccinated caught it from another that was also too young to be vaccinated. Vaccination does not guarantee you will never catch the disease. Research, not blind faith in the medical profession will enlighten your feeble mind. Comment 179 of 226 John of Lesmurdie Posted at 12:09 PM Today I have been saying this for many years now, that these vaccines are dangerous and they inject small amount of the actual flue into a person's body. However, Government Ministers, Doctors, and Pharmaceutical companies have ignored this advice because they are only interested in votes/money. Comment 180 of 226 Father of 4. of SOR Posted at 12:10 PM Today Firstly I hope the affected kids get well soon. This news is unfortunate about the severity of the flu jab reaction in the affected kids. Fortunately our kids are fine after their injections at the start of the week, though they have been off colour abit and ratty. It sounds like the vaccination batch management process needs revision, as they may have cross contaminated batches across after they where supposed to be replaced. Now before people condemn vaccinations generally they need to do research on the severity of the diseases these vaccinations protect against. Then if they decide to NOT get the Flu jab for their kids then so be it. However they should not then whine about how sick their kids are if they get the full dose of swine flu. As for immunisations for the main diseases like polio, whooping cough, diptheria and tuberculosis, remember that most of these diseases use differing types of vaccination methods to a flu jab, so lumping all vaccinations as bad is rubbish. Basically a parent is neglecting a child if they dont protect them against the lethal diseases. So once they replace the flu batches again our kids will be going back for their second flu jabs. Comment 181 of 226 Community Nurse of North West WA Posted at 12:12 PM Today Comment 121, I hope for your little girls sake that she never gets sick and in turn passes on a highly communicable virus to other vaxed children. I find your comments selfish but you have that right. I have seen a very sick child that was not vaxed and let me tell you it was heart renching, the child passed away all because the mother suck to her guns, which was rediculous considering she lived in a remote aboriginal community. She put her child at risk for what price? Comment 182 of 226 Seekthetruth Posted at 12:16 PM Today Perth chic of perth...you say that everyone needs to be vaccinated (herd immunity). How do you explain people who get whooping cough, measles, chicken pox, pneumonia who are fully vaccinated?? These fully vaccinated people are also spreading diseases to vaccinated and unvaccinated people. The vaccines dont work as they are desigend to do 100% of the time if at all!!! You can't blame unvaccinated people. The poor little baby who died from whooping cough, that is absolutely awful, but unfortunately the whooping cough vaccine is one of the lease effective of all the vaccines. It is failing. A child isn't safe until it has had its third shot at 6 months of age and immunity only lasts for 2-5 years. So all our newborns are still very vulnerable to this disease despite a 90-95% vaccination rate in Australia. Comment 183 of 226 Rock paper scissors of Perth Posted at 12:17 PM Today Isn't it interesting that doctors are one of the most trusted professions and journalists are one of the least trusted yet everytime we read about about a controversial treatment, we take the journalist's opinion over the doctor's? People are strange. Comment 184 of 226 Jezza of Perrth Posted at 12:18 PM Today Bird Flu. Chinese Bird Flu. Swine Flu. Nothing sells like fear all these flus are avian. Why are we susceptible to Bird flus is it because we are vaccinated with Putrid diseases bred on chiken eggs? CSL you are answerable Comment 185 of 226 Kingseat of Perth Posted at 12:21 PM Today My son was due his jab today. Drs telephoned at 8.30 to state that the appointment was cancelled. It took me weeks to decided if he should have the jab (he's 2) and make the appointment. I doubt very much if he will be having it now. No way. Comment 186 of 226 Belinda Lukatelich Posted at 12:21 PM Today There is always a risk involved in taking a flu jab or taking any kind of medicine. There is a risk involved just leaving your house every day. It's always a case of weighint up the benefits and risks and making a decision about anything in life that involves risk. Comment 187 of 226 Dule of Hillarys Posted at 12:21 PM Today Lot of 'armchair experts' advocating that you should do your own research, but nothing indicating how. Let me join the experts but actually give some links that might help educate. Firstly, we cant use anecdotal evidence to make our judgements. This is a good site for some info written by mostly MD's. http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?cat=36 The other points I want to make is about the number of logical fallacies and breakdown of critical thinking im seeing here. http://www.theskepticsguide.org/resources/logicalfallacies.aspx PS. im not claiming to be perfect or to have any better insight than anyone else, but just wanted to point out some information that might help you filter out whats crap and whats not. Thanks Comment 188 of 226 Jezza of Perth Posted at 12:24 PM Today Perth chic of Perth you are the one wo is most ill informed Comment 189 of 226 EP of Perth Posted at 12:24 PM Today This is of great concern for others! I'm presuming a bad batch. I must say I had my 6 year old and 14 month immunised and they were fine. No side effects. Comment 190 of 226 Who of Perth Posted at 12:24 PM Today Why are children given the flu shot?, I thought it was only recommended to the old and people with health problems. Comment 191 of 226 Dad of 4 of Sickville Posted at 12:25 PM Today At JS, comment 91, about lawyers and car sales. Unless you are going to comment in an informed way either for or against about this issue your post is both un-welcome and pathetic. You are nothing but a smug profiteering leech that cares only how this situation benefits you. The welfare of our kids is of no concern to you obviously. Hopefully Karma is heading your way, and also heading down to those ambulance chasing lawyers in a big way. Comment 192 of 226 Val Posted at 12:31 PM Today I wonder if it just the flu vac, my daughter had a temp of 40 just 6 hours after getting her 4 month needles .... but the next day she was fine. Hopefully it is resolved soon as vaccinations are better than getting the real thing. Comment 193 of 226 annie Posted at 12:34 PM Today my 3 year old had a fever and developed flu like symptoms within hours of the vaccine...yeah, hope they can look into it, to many lives at risk. Comment 194 of 226 Proud mother of 2 Posted at 12:42 PM Today Both my children (1 and 2) were immunised with the flu vac yesterday. My 1yo developed a high fever but was fine after panadol. A little bit unsettled but nothing of concern. It is a known side effect that your child may develop high temperates after immunisations and it is a risk I'm prepared to take. My children will get the flu vac again next year. We are hearing all about the kids with the high temps which is sad and stressful for parents, especially those in hospital, but how many had mild or no side effects. My 2yo was completely fine. Wouldn't even know he had one. Comment 195 of 226 F Posted at 12:48 PM Today " The other fact is it has also caused many healthy children to develop Autism and other brain disorders like ADD ADHD. " THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN VACCINATIONS AND AUTISM. This has been gone over many times in the past few years; scientific research bodies have investigated it. They removed the chemical people claimed caused autism. It still was found in kids. The simple fact is that we are better at determining autism in kids than in the past so we find more cases of it. It's even argued we may be overdiagnosing autism in general. Some parents even claim that post-vaccine, their kids were found to be autistic; but if they weren't tested for autism *before* the vaccine, you can say there is a cause and effect. Comment 196 of 226 Worried Posted at 1:08 PM Today Pox comment 136 you are a complete idiot...the poor baby in PMH is in critical condition and has brain damage, do you think that's a side effect of immunisation...I think the parents would rather she had the flu than what is happening to her right now. Have some sensitivity and compassion for the parents whose kids have suffered due to this vaccine...there is nothing more scary having a sick child. Thank you! Comment 197 of 226 J.M. of Perth Posted at 1:09 PM Today Thanks to Google Scholar and other means by which people can read published medical papers firsthand, there's no need to rely on sites from either " side. " SBM (as mentioned in comment 178) is hardly bias-free. People need to do their own research and form their own conclusions. Most cities also have university libraries (including medical libraries) and you can access the materials there. As for comment 153, the pertussis vaccine does not prevent transmission. Even the CDC knows this...http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol6no5/pdf/srugo.pdf My fully vaccinated and up-to-date with boosters husband brought pertussis home to our unvaxed kids. They've all recovered just fine. But don't rely on the pertussis vaccine for protection from carriage of the bacteria. Comment 198 of 226 Proudtobeaperthnowredneck of Fremantle Posted at 1:22 PM Today NEWSFLASH: Unconfirmed reports kids with high temps walking round the streets of perth moaning n groaning some kids have attack grown adults...the batch of flu vacinne was some crazy govt experiment...now we have ZOMBIE KIDS Comment 199 of 226 Vaccine Injured Posted at 1:29 PM Today Majority of the People, when are you going to learn to educate yourself and do your OWN research before you vaccinate? This is not just applicable to childhood vaccinations... Thought it was a " free " vaccine? Did you know: The children in WA who got the free seasonal flu vaccine were part of a study paid for by the vaccine manufacturers. In other words - guinee pigs... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - I URGE YOU... INVESTIGATE BEFORE YOU VACCINATE!!! Google, read books, visit Australian Vaccination Network Website and Dr Mercola Website etc. - whatever it takes... it's your health - and remember Big Pharma is in business to make money... nothing else. Comment 200 of 226 blaz Posted at 1:31 PM Today It's because the swine flu vaccine was added to the flu shot this year. Why dont you mention that Perth Now? Is it the swine flu vaccine ad below the story? The swine flu vaccine was rushed, swine flu wasnt dangerous and it came right during the GFC which means it amounted to a multi billion dollar bailout of the poor pharma companies - if they werent responsible for the swine flu in the first place. Comment 201 of 226 Dianne of PERTH Posted at 1:34 PM Today TAKE OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT DO YOUR own RESEARCH ON THIS IT WORKS WONDERS Comment 202 of 226 Kelli of Caversham Posted at 1:41 PM Today My daugher who is 3 had the injection on Tuesday morning after waiting a month to get an appointment at our local medical centre. That night she had a temperature and vomited everywhere in her bed. The next day she was still not right and was very tired and not hungry. She will not getting any more flu shots if this is what the side effects are. Comment 203 of 226 Bejf Posted at 1:42 PM Today comment 156 Father of Three " (parent) who has acted responsibly to protect them from some of the most horrific diseases known to man. " so when someone crazy in 50 years time releases smallpox back into the world, and people die left, right and centre because no one has a natural immunity, its ok because the original vaccine prevented people from contracting it? there are not as many pro's as the medical profession in australia leads the general public to believe Comment 204 of 226 Natalie of Kingsley of Kingsley Posted at 1:45 PM Today I had my 18 month old (very healthy and happy boy) vaccinated on Tuesday 1pm and by 6pm that evening he was limp and pale and then the temperure started along with severe vomitting. This lasted all night and thank god for Health Direct and our common sense to try and get the temp down as fast as we could. It is now Friday and my little boy is still not himself but doing better!!!! What a fright and lets hope the Government and associated agencies get it together!!!! Comment 205 of 226 Vicki of Perth Posted at 1:47 PM Today Had my 4 children done, mainly because i have a so called " high risk " asthamtic child. All ok. However 9 month old was restless for 2 days - a big query hanging over me now to complete the final dose for the baby! Comment 206 of 226 Bejf Posted at 1:52 PM Today one thing gp's do not make you aware of unless you ask, is that a vaccine is a prevention method. it does not guarentee your child will not get the disease. i was fully vaccinated, and was one of the unfortunate children to get whopping cough when i was 7, a few years after the vaccine. Comment 207 of 226 Tim of Perth Posted at 1:56 PM Today It's all Colin Barnett's fault. He should have signed up to the federal health plan and Kevin would have swooped in and saved all the children! Comment 208 of 226 LB Posted at 1:59 PM Today My Daughter (she's 2) had the flu jab 3pm yesterday afternoon, luckily she did not suffer any side effects. My doctor must not have been aware of the health warning. If I had known I would not have given her the flu jab and I definately won't be giving it to my 5 month old and doubt that they will be getting it in the future. How do you get a bad batch anyway? Comment 209 of 226 pawsforthought of Glen Forrest Posted at 2:00 PM Today Last year (March 2009) our GP STRONGLY advised us NOT to have the Swine Flue Vaccine as there were 'un-answered' issues surrounding it ... This year,(April 2010) NOTHING has changed with the vaccine, but, as Seniors, if we wish to have the Flue vaccine, we are FORCED to accept the Swine Flue Vaccine as well, as it is an inseperable part of the flue vaccine ... is it right that we are held to ransom, or, treated as Guinea Pigs, by the Government ??? Comment 210 of 226 Well Informed of QLD Posted at 2:01 PM Today Confidence of own immunity well said!!!! The government needs to better educated parents on vaccination. It upsets me when mothers blame non-vaccinated children for the reason their own vaccinated kids get sick. HELlO just because your child is vaccinated doesn't stop them getting sick, it's supposed to aid in them getting less sick as the autoimmune response is supposed to kick in. Therefore if my non-vaccinated child makes your kid sick its not because hes not vaccinated - PURE LOGIC!! Another logic why is there strong history of alzhemimers disease, parkinsons disease, arthitis etc, mental health issues which have been linked to aluminium, mercury, lead. Why are there so many egg based allergies, perhaps it's the fact they use these to administer vaccinations??? you think???? Wake up people it's not a conspiracy theory its fact and logic. Another incommon fact the meningoccol vaccination that we give our kids here in Australia is not even for the strain we have here in Australia, it's actually manufactured overseas and brought into the country. We use too many chemicals/antibiotics bacteria is becoming immune to it this means more superviruses with no cure! Do your research!!!! Comment 211 of 226 Mother of one Posted at 2:03 PM Today To Ryan of Perth - your comment would have to be the most laughable statement I have read all day. All you parents implying we who vacinate out kids are bad parents.... do you drive your children anywhere? This is the single most dangerous activity one does on a day to day basis.... yet I imagine you're all very happy to do so. Comment 212 of 226 DAMAN of Melbourne Posted at 2:04 PM Today They can vaccinate my children when they've dragged them from my cold, dead hands. Wake up people & do some research, vaccinations are making thousands of cildren and the elderly sick. Do not trust everything you're told! Comment 213 of 226 Melanie of Perth Posted at 2:09 PM Today My husband and I took our 2 year old son and ourselves off to get vaccinated last weekend, as we do every year, without any problems or side effects. This time our son experienced a high temperature about 6 hours afterwards then vomiting at about the 12 hour mark. Fortunately he was better the next day. I hope that there is light shed as to why so many people have experienced horrible side effects in this years release. Comment 214 of 226 mummyto2 Posted at 2:17 PM Today my kids had it 2 weeks ago - 4 & 7 and had absolutely no reaction to it. I wonder if some batches are dodgy or very young children 2 & under are more vulernable to having a reaction? The only thing I am really annoyed about is I asked my GP if there were any reactions to this flu vaccine before they got it (she said it would be a good idea to get it) and she said no as it is not a live vaccine. Well, that obviously wasn't true! I am glad my kids had no reaction to it....and I also wish she had been better informed! Comment 215 of 226 MomofToddlerNOR Posted at 2:18 PM Today Comment 192 Tim of Perth. Well done at last someone who sees Mr Rudd for what he is. A Fake who is all gloss and no substance. Comment 216 of 226 Ryan (SOR) of South of River Posted at 2:20 PM Today My two boy's 4 year old & a 20 month old both had their shot's yesterday at 1pm. Both had slight fevers last night but today they are destroying the house as usual Comment 217 of 226 Ron of Brisbane Posted at 2:22 PM Today I got it at work. I'm 25 and I felt really sick 6 hrs after taking it. 8 hrs later my temperature went to 39.2 C! There is something wrong with this vaccination. Comment 218 of 226 Barb of Secret Harbour Posted at 2:29 PM Today BEJF comment 21, well said. Education sources are indeed essential. Comment 219 of 226 Hillarys Mum Posted at 2:38 PM Today My three children aged 4, 6 & 8 had the vaccine almost a month ago. They had no reaction, however now I am worried if it will be effective...I hope there is no adverse reactions for them over the following months. I'm glad there has been a quick response to the problem. Comment 220 of 226 Kellie Mum of 5 of NOR Posted at 2:40 PM Today Why do we seem so keen to use our children as human guinea pigs for pharmaceutical companies??? Its all about money, not our kids health. The flu strain changes every season, so how can they vaccinate you for a strain they don't even know about....these are our precious children...think about it, before you get them jabbed! There is more than meets the eye!! Comment 221 of 226 FB of Perth Posted at 2:47 PM Today Hope and pray all the children get well. My doctor offered me a free shot last time I was there. I declined on the grounds there was not enough information out there on the new vaccine. Would rather take my chances with the flu. When millions and millions of doses are being made there is too much room for human error. Comment 222 of 226 this little piggie... of perth Posted at 2:48 PM Today for the past 8 years, my now 18 yr old and myself have had the fluvax, and my 4 yr old has had it for the past 2 years with no problems also. normally we have had the vaccination by the end of March but this year we still haven't had it and now will definitely not be having it. my main concern initially was the inclusion of the swine flu vaccine with the regular fluvax. last year during the swine flu epidemic i spoke to several health workers and they said they personally would not have the swine flu vaccine due to the short testing times and the lack of further information. on these personal opinion i have decided to to have the fluvax/swine flu vaccone this year. if the fluvax was available on its own they YES i would be there with bells on. Comment 223 of 226 Paul Posted at 3:08 PM Today I wonder if it had anything to do with the blackouts we had... Comment 224 of 226 Perth Mum of Perth Posted at 3:09 PM Today A co-worker took her two children to be vaccinated recently and was told by her doctor that due to the storm in Perth and the subsequent power failures, they would not give the vaccination, as the vaccine may have been compromised (it is supposed to be kept at a particular temperature in the fridge). They suggested she come back when they have new stocks. Worth investigating, I think! Comment 225 of 226 M Posted at 3:11 PM Today Vaccinate or don't vaccinate. There are good reasons for both and what ever your reasons are for doing either there is nothing gained from telling someone I told u so? As a parent you just can't explain the feeling you get when your watching you little child suffering from something you decided to do. The issue here is that the Govt new about this for weeks before acting and now must be made to pay! We need a royal commission to uncover the facts behind this decission. Meryl Dorey meryl Australian Vaccination Network Living Wisdom magazine Investigate before you vaccinate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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