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vaccine reactions

Meryl Dorey <meryl

 

 

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/was-free-influenza-vaccination-program-has-been-suspended-for-children-under-five/comments-e6frg12c-1225857140885

 

Ann Marie Posted at 6:54 PM April 22, 2010

 

These are not the first adverse reactions and they will certainly not

be the last as long as people continue to be vaccinated! Nor have they

" only happened in WA " - there are worldwide adverse reactions,

some of which are very serious. Parents, you need to do your own research

- don't just listen to the health department which, to a large extent, is

influenced by big pharma (who make the big bucks!)

Comment 1 of 226

momof2 of Lesmurdie Posted at 7:01 PM April 22, 2010

 

My daughter had the flu vaccination 5 weeks ago and presented with

high fever for more than 8 hours. Luckily she is not prone to febrile

convulsions! I know of several other children that had the vaccination in

the last 3 weeks who also presented with high fevers.

Comment 2 of 226

Bianca Guthrie of Cloverdale Posted at 7:18 PM April 22, 2010

 

My children, aged 8 months and 3, were vaccinated mid morning

yesterday and by mid afternoon had high temperatures. I promptly gave

them panadol and although we had a sleepless night with both of them up

and miserable they are almost back to normal today. I'm disappointed that

the Health Department have put so much effort into promoting flu

vaccination with letters and advertisements, and we were even offered it

in a PMH waiting room while we waited to see a specialist, yet clearly

not enough effort has gone into checking the safety of the vaccine or

education about possible side effects. We were not given any information

about side effects at our GP clinic.

Comment 3 of 226

a mum Posted at 7:43 PM April 22, 2010

 

My son got his flu vac about 4 weeks ago and with in 8 hours his temp

was up around 40 degrees and he wasnt well at all so its not just kids in

the last 12 hours that have had it that are getting the very high temps

from the flu vac

Comment 4 of 226

Charli Girl of Cyber City Posted at 7:45 PM April 22, 2010

 

Has WA got a bad batch?

Comment 5 of 226

fairywings of Port Kennedy Posted at 8:01 PM April 22, 2010

 

Do our children really need the flu vac? Am I a 'bad mother' for not

giving it to my toddler? Although 139 children under 5 were hospitalized

with the flu hence why the govenment want us to get it how many children

are there under in 5 in WA, this is a really small percentage, a normal

healthy child shouldn't need it

Comment 6 of 226

mother of three of perth Posted at 8:02 PM April 22, 2010

 

my three children had the vaccine and all three of then were

absolutely fine. not even a little bit hot or miserable and they are all

under five, so i don't this is everyone just a small minority. the

anti-vaccine brigade will be loving this, but it needs to be put into

perpective

Comment 7 of 226

tarah of perth Posted at 8:07 PM April 22, 2010

 

to new mothers- dont vaccinate... very very dangerous.. playing with

mankind....

Comment 8 of 226

Pam Posted at 8:12 PM April 22, 2010

 

I had both my children 4 years and 10 months vaccinated yesterday

afternoon. By 9pm last night they were both up vomiting and 39 degree +

temps. Quite frightening indeed

Comment 9 of 226

Educated Mum! Posted at 8:12 PM April 22, 2010

 

As with any vaccination parents must weigh up the 'pro's' and

'con's'. I would think that most parents would agree that a few hours of

a child with a high temp is preferable to having a child contract swine

flu or another flu strain. My 3 children (aged 8 and 5) are booked to

have the vaccination next week and I will be keeping the

appointment.

Comment 10 of 226

toringsun of perth Posted at 8:14 PM April 22, 2010

 

yes while the rest of the world was getting told by media in the

northern hemisphere that the threat of h1n1 had been over exaggerated and

that countries had huge stock piles of vaccine and where wanting a full

European investigation into big pharma and W.H.O. I noticed we here in

Australia through main stream media we where still being told to get the

vaccine. it will be the same again tomorrow all the talking heads will be

out in force to tell everyone to trust this untested vaccine except now

if you are under 5.

Comment 11 of 226

stellastar_09 Posted at 8:17 PM April 22, 2010

 

yes the 12 hour thing is a joke. My 17 month old daughter had her flu

shot 3 weeks ago and woke with a high fever and shudders/twitches. This

has never happened to her before and she has had fevers prior. It is very

scary that the HD is so strongly promoting treatments that endanger our

children.

Comment 12 of 226

upset mother Posted at 8:19 PM April 22, 2010

 

Two days ago I took my toddler to have his 18mnth vac for chickenpox.

At that time I was convinced that it would be in my childs best interest

to have the flu vac. I was not told about the possible side effects. At

3am my child woke. He was scared as he was very hot and having odd

jerking movements. His temp didn't read as high but I cooled him down in

a sink of water. After hearing about todays story I feel upset, teary as

I feel terrible about what had happened and what could have happened to

my child. This experience means no more flu vacs for my child!

Comment 13 of 226

Worried mum of Floreat Posted at 8:20 PM April 22, 2010

 

I also vacinated my 2 boys (11mths & 4yrs) on Tuesday. The baby's

temp soared suddenly after about 6 hrs & he started vomitting. I

managed to get it down with wet cloths & Panadol and he is almost

back to normal today. And this was just a half dose! My 4 yr old is fine,

but he was also vacinated last year, so maybe this has helped. I just

hope that they don't find a major problem with this batch...

Comment 14 of 226

chas of gosnells Posted at 8:21 PM April 22, 2010

 

my son had his shots on tuesday and within 5 hrs had a fever of 39

deg vomiting and heart rate through the roof, armidale hospital doctor

told me she had seen two cases every shift

Comment 15 of 226

motherofperth Posted at 8:26 PM April 22, 2010

 

My child had the flu vaccination last week, for the last 4 days he

has been grizzly. @ days after he had the vaccination he had diorehea,

high temp and work up have a shaking fit as his temperature was so high.

Is it so hard for the government to put a bit more effort into

researching these vaccinations before making our children ill for no

reason.

Comment 16 of 226

M Posted at 8:29 PM April 22, 2010

 

There have been bad reactions for over a week, My work colleagues

kids had a reaction to their flu shots (convultions, vomit & 39 temp)

last week and when they phoned the health line they were told they were

the 5th callers that nite. why only now for a warning?

Comment 17 of 226

Govt rushing out again of morley Posted at 8:30 PM April 22, 2010

 

 

Surely this is tested prior to release well my 1 and 4 year old, as

well as my pregnant wife are all sick right now from this sh*t! wheres

the bloody info on what to do. No direct link to the vaccine my ass!

Where do i take my legal case on this.. its so negligent its

ridiculous

Comment 18 of 226

Hey of Perth Posted at 8:32 PM April 22, 2010

 

mother of three of perth, I agree, there is always a risk but it is a

small percentage. My 2 kids under 5 also had the flu vac (and all other

vacs) and no problems. It's not good luck to have no side effects, it's

bad luck if you do. The anti-vaccine brigade are going to have a field

day!

Comment 19 of 226

CJ of Duncraig Posted at 8:35 PM April 22, 2010

 

My 2 yr old had the same symptoms as Worried mum of floreat's 11mth

old. Her temp soared to over 39 degrees after 6 hrs, she also had awful

chills and vomited everything she had eaten in that time. Very

scary.

Comment 20 of 226

Bejf Posted at 8:37 PM April 22, 2010

 

why would you let your child have an immunisation without asking your

gp the risks involved? and to both Educated Mum! and mother of three of

perth, what on earth are the pro's? both influenza and swine flu strains

change so often that the immunisation does not cover all the strains, and

that within one season of flu, its likely that to have changed already?!

so what exactly are you protecting your children against? something that

no longer exists? yes i can understand vaccinations for serious stable

viruses, but influenza and swine flu? perhaps you should check your

education sources

Comment 21 of 226

Jane of perth Posted at 8:45 PM April 22, 2010

 

This is a terrible situation for all mums, dads and bubs. I received

letters in the mail advising me to vaccinate. I am not against the

routine vaccinations however I do feel we are being overly cautious and

aggresive with our need to vaccinate against everything. Our poor

children are having up to 5 needles a year. Surely this is an issue. I am

all for medical advances, lets hope they sort this out soon.

Comment 22 of 226

STEVE Posted at 8:46 PM April 22, 2010

 

A spile in presentations what appalling dehumanising lingo it

that.Medically " presentations " were traditionally samples, not

the patient, and typically samples of human waste products. Is this the

new Health sCare system.?

Comment 23 of 226

NM of Perth Posted at 8:47 PM April 22, 2010

 

We spent 6 hours in emergency with our 20 month old after this

vaccine and the doctor still tried to convinc us to give her the second

dose!

Comment 24 of 226

Chrisitne of Perth Posted at 8:48 PM April 22, 2010

 

My poor 18 month old had her needles yesterday afternoon and 6 hours

later spiked a temperature with shaking/shivering fits. Got medication

into her straight away but this only lasted 2 hours before it started

again and I had to dose her with something else. Still high temps

today

Comment 25 of 226

Liz of Perth Posted at 8:49 PM April 22, 2010

 

2 Months ago, I asked a GP about the VAC. What were his thoughts on

myself and my son having it. He said " the Govt. wants us to tell our

patients to have it " . I then asked so will you be having it? He said

" NO " . I found this strange seeing though he works around lots

of sick people on a daily basis. Wouldn't a doctor be the first to have

it? I would've thought. I've also decided to go along with his notion.

Apparently the pharmaceutical companies will make a killing...in more

ways than one.

Comment 26 of 226

Philby Jam Posted at 8:49 PM April 22, 2010

 

Come on people.... do any of you question the stuff they put in these

vaccines??? It is madness to blindly follow the doctors and government.

In the UK when I lived their Doctors where paid for every MMR vaccine

they gave. If the thing was so good and effective why should they have to

be given financial incentive to make people have them?? Start questioning

and thinking for yourselves people!!

Comment 27 of 226

kalgoorlie Posted at 8:53 PM April 22, 2010

 

look i think the government is doing as much as they can to try and

keep our children safe from all these diseases. There is only so much

they can do. So what r u going to go on and blame the government for the

earthquake in kalgoorlie as well. Wake up and realise as everyday passes

these flu's and diseases are becomjng stronger and soon there will be no

cure.

Comment 28 of 226

Paddington Bear Posted at 8:58 PM April 22, 2010

 

Poor kiddies, I had the same symptoms over the weekend post flu -

shot, never had a reaction like that before with them. At least I am

older and understand why I was feeling so bad. This was the first year I

considered not having it cos I am paranoid about the Swine flu

combination - wishing now I didn't. You never know maybe it means a

stronger immunity through the flu season - dunno...

Comment 29 of 226

Rocky of Chasers lounge Posted at 9:00 PM April 22, 2010

 

You people really need to look into EXACTLY what they are putting

into your children prior to blindly believing this crap they push onto

people.

Comment 30 of 226

Khyla of Victoria Park, Perth Posted at 9:05 PM April 22, 2010

 

Same...I had my 20 month old, and 3.5 year old, vaccinated on

Tuesday. Both had dry fevers by the evening and the 3.5 year old vomited

in his sleep. Panadol helped but my youngest was still not well the

following day. Both boys are still not 100% but improving slowly. I only

had them done this year as my youngest is prone to croupe! Not sure if

Ill be going back for the 2nd vaccination in 28 days!!!

Comment 31 of 226

Bejf Posted at 9:06 PM April 22, 2010

 

good point fairywings of Port Kenned comment 6, why DOES a healthy

child need an immunisation against a non-life threatening

illness?

Comment 32 of 226

Dr Bob of Perth Posted at 9:06 PM April 22, 2010

 

Money, they're making us crap ourselves so they can make some more

money.

Comment 33 of 226

MP Posted at 9:07 PM April 22, 2010

 

My son had the vaccine in the ACT this afternoon and by 6pm, he was

shivering and shaking with a very high temp. After panadol, it was still

38.6 when examined by an after hours doctor! These reactions are not

localised to WA - think twice before having your young child (under 5)

vaccinated. I wish I had listened to others, clearly more investigation

is required before the program continues in children under 5..

Comment 34 of 226

please re-consider of perth Posted at 9:11 PM April 22, 2010

 

No vaccination makes up for a poor immune system. Please educate

yourselves on how to do this. You are giving your children a large dose

of Thimerosal/Thiomersal which is 49% mercury by weight, amongst a whole

lot of other compounds that haven't been tested thoroughly.

Comment 35 of 226

Nurse JOJO of Perth NOR Posted at 9:14 PM April 22, 2010

 

Why are people complaining about not knowing about side-effects of a

vaccine? Why would you get your child vaccinated without first asking

about potential side-effects? Come on people, take some responsibility

for your families health care and ask the questions yourself!! I

vaccinate children everyday at work, and am amazed at the number of

parents who don't bother to ask about possible side-effects. I inform

parents of any potential side-effects, and what to do about them, as do

all the nurses I work with.

Comment 36 of 226

fidav of Joondalup Posted at 9:15 PM April 22, 2010

 

I called on Friday to book my 16 month old in for hers - she needed

the two as she didn't get the booster last year - the second was due just

as we are planning a long plane trip overseas, and the nurse said to me

(on Friday!), this batch seems to be causing high fevers so don't do it

too close to your departure, give it a few days. Fortunately my little

one developed an ear infection over the weekend (not sure fortunately

would normally be in that sentence) and when we went for our appointment

for the jab on Monday she wasn't able to have it due to a slight fever

and an ear infection - so I'm very pleased she got the ear infection ....

maybe we'll skip the flu jab this year, clearly she wasn't meant to have

the two last year as each time she got a cold or ear infection days

before the second one was due and eventually the surgery ran out of flu

jabs! The joys of winter and daycare and having an older sibling at

school!

Comment 37 of 226

Meryl Dorey of Bangalow NSW Posted at 9:17 PM April 22, 2010

 

Everyone, it is so important that these reactions get reported - not

just ignored. If your doctor won't report to the government, visit the

Australian Vaccination Network's website -

www.avn.org.au - and report it there.

Unless all reactions are reported, we will never know the safety profile

of vaccinations.

Comment 38 of 226

Julie.. concerned Posted at 9:19 PM April 22, 2010

 

To the Gentleman " govt rushing out again " It seems you have

a lot on your hands tonight with 2 sick babies and a sick pregnant wife

who is probably not in a fit stage to help. Looking at the other comments

some of the mothers have said. They have tried to get the temps down and

given them Tylenol but with 3 patients (or 4) youre best bet would be to

get a family friend in to help or get a doctor around to ease your burden

and charge the govt for the bill. Hope everything goes well .. concerned

reader.

Comment 39 of 226

Diana Posted at 9:22 PM April 22, 2010

 

My children had their flu vaccination last week and as I have always

done with any vaccination, I gave them a dose of panadol BEFORE they were

vaccinated and luckily they were both ok. They are aged 23 months and 5

years old.

Comment 40 of 226

The Lunatics are Running the Asylum Posted at 9:22 PM April 22, 2010

 

 

So the Health Department sends parents a letter last week (I got one)

using details they got from Medicare urging them to have your under 5's

vaccinated and hey the Government will do it FOR FREE. Then the following

week they tell parents NOT to get their under 5's vaccinated? WHAT

THE????

Comment 41 of 226

concerned of perth Posted at 9:27 PM April 22, 2010

 

Same thing happened to us, we had our 17 month vaccinated last

Wednesday, and within a few hours he was vomiting, had high fever and

jerky shaking in both hands his whole body was limp and burning up. This

continued through the night, by the morning he was alright again. We were

encouraged to have the vaccination as he has asthma and colds and flu are

his trigger. At the time we put the reaction down to a known egg

allergy.. but now not so sure. The big question is, and the health-line

people couldn't answer, what to do about the follow up jab? and what are

the consequences of only having half the treatment?

Comment 42 of 226

Mumma Z Posted at 9:28 PM April 22, 2010

 

Why did it take the health department so long to suspend this

vaccine? My children were vaccinated 20/03/10.In the last week i have

spoken to many mothers with the same story as me.The hospitals have been

dealing with this for weeks. So why so long?

Comment 43 of 226

Jae of Jane Brook Posted at 9:32 PM April 22, 2010

 

My sons (3 years and 8 months) had the shot last Friday. Bub's first

(half dose) caused him to have a fever of 39.6 and vomiting by evening. 3

year had no affects but has had vac before. Rung Health Direct and she

said it was a " Common side affect " and not to worry. Needless

to say as others has said, has not been just in the last 24 hours.

Perhaps the " Spike " was due to the letter the Immunisation

Register sent out last week????

Comment 44 of 226

Johnnyred of Perth Hills Posted at 9:32 PM April 22, 2010

 

Anyone's kids had the shot without the bad reaction?

Comment 45 of 226

Mel Posted at 9:39 PM April 22, 2010

 

I am a 45kg female resident of Melbourne who had a flu shot on

Tuesday and I had a massive reaction 20 minutes after the jab which

included profuse sweating, light headedness and a blood pressure of

100/50 which is very low for me. Perhaps this issue is not limited to the

little ones in W.A. but it may have national consequences?

Comment 46 of 226

chookster of perth Posted at 9:41 PM April 22, 2010

 

I think we all need to make our own choices on this.. Teling new

mothers not to vaccinate could be lethal.. Also although we are highly

reccomended to have these we are not forced to... I do feel a few hours

of high fever would be better than a child very ill with swine

flu...

Comment 47 of 226

SEH Posted at 9:56 PM April 22, 2010

 

My Son is two and is not vaccinated and he has NEVER been sick. He

has never had a cold or flu or any kind of gastric upset. His father and

I have both suffered through numerous viruses, shared a bed with him and

without thinking, have shared many of our germs with him. What does this

say? Is he just lucky? Or his immune system free from the many toxic

substances in vaccines? Is it not over-burdened by the ridiculous

quantity of vaccines children are subjected to these days? You

decide...

Comment 48 of 226

A Parent Posted at 10:04 PM April 22, 2010

 

My child had a flu vaccination two weeks ago. That evening she

presented a high fever, became weak and then began vomiting in the middle

of the night. She had not reacted like this to previous vaccinations or

last year's flu vaccination.

Comment 49 of 226

CFMum of WA Posted at 10:13 PM April 22, 2010

 

My son had the injections yesterday he is 8 and has Cystic FIbrosis.

I gave him Panadol last night at 8pm just in case, he woke at midnight,

temp of 40 degreees, crying Mummy I'm cold, I'm so cold, teeth chattering

and shaking like hell. We sponged him down and kept a cotton sheet on

him, but he just shook for hours and couldnt sleep, it was pretty scary

for him!

Comment 50 of 226

A Parent Posted at 10:13 PM April 22, 2010

 

I forgot to mention that a couple of my friends also had their

children vaccinated last week and their babies also experienced high

fevers and vomiting. When you take your child to have any vaccination you

are provided with a sheet stating possible side effects. I don't recall

vomiting being mentioned and the risk of convultions were meant to be low

but obviously not with this batch.

Comment 51 of 226

LL Posted at 10:16 PM April 22, 2010

 

My 2 year old was vaccinated yesterday for the first time. I was

actually unsure about doing it but after receiving a letter from the HD I

decided to do it. Bad idea!! My son was so ill, 39.1 temp, vomiting,

shaking, scared. I am so p'd off and angry. I feel misled and let down by

the HD. They should be warning parents of side effects first!!! I want

answers, I want an explanation. The truth not just some government

jargon.

Comment 52 of 226

ErinBrockovich of Perth Posted at 10:23 PM April 22, 2010

 

Yes parents owe it to their children to research inoculations of any

type. Why take the word of total strangers when it comes to your most

precious assets...your children

Comment 53 of 226

Jomomma of perth Posted at 10:26 PM April 22, 2010

 

To the anti-vaccine parents; don't TELL other parents what to do

(tarah, comment 8), parents are all entitled to make their own decisions.

Hey whatever, don't vaccinate.. when your kids come down with rubella or

whooping cough there will be noone to blame but you, and you will be the

one begging the doctors to do all they can for your child.. while you

ironically didn't. Yeah not all kids get sick or get horrible diseases if

they aren't vaccinated, but not all kids have a reaction to vaccinations

either. Don't tell other parents how to to raise their kids. My 4 year

old had the vaccination, she got a temperature that I was prepared for

(as with ANY other vaccination) and now she's peachy keen. A majority of

positive reports outweighs a handful of negative ones.. just seems the

negative ones express their feelings on the subject, louder than the

positive ones.

Comment 54 of 226

phantastik pharmaceuticals Posted at 10:37 PM April 22, 2010

 

Every year a new strain of the flu has mutated, and every year a new

vaccine has to be studied, tested and approved safe and effective to use.

Unfortunately this means new vaccines are rushed through the study

process in order to get them manufactured in bulk to be made available to

the public. When they're first released, they will probably not have been

tested on children, the elderly or people with other conditions. This

isn't new and it will only be compounded as our population grows and

technology advances into even more unethical ways to keep people alive.

However the benefit of these vaccines is simply to reduce the risk of an

outbreak/pandemic, which increases the number of hospitalizations and

complications, thus avoiding time off work/school/feeling sick. As with

every pharmaceutical, there's side effects - read a pamphlet on any

prescription drug, FEVER is side effect. I hope nurses administering the

vaccinations explain the risks and management to parents. I can only

speculate that the children admitted to hospital with febrile convulsions

are the result of a fever that has not been managed properly. The vaccine

won't kill you, but then again, neither will the flu.

Comment 55 of 226

Tell no Lies of W.A. Posted at 10:47 PM April 22, 2010

 

Both my grandchildren had the vaccine yesterday and both had my

daughter up all night with high temps and my grandson was even vomiting,

my grandaughter has been unwell all day, i would say their is a definate

link.

Comment 56 of 226

Scozzie Posted at 11:12 PM April 22, 2010

 

My sister had her children vaccinated the very first day the vaccine

was available. Her 14 month old was violently sick, 40 degree temp and

heart rate through the roof her 3 year old wasn't well at all

either...this lasted for a few days...She took her youngest straight to

PMH and they said they had been over run with cases that night. A friends

child also had same experience with convulsions too. This should have

been made public weeks ago...thankfully there have been no

deaths.....

Comment 57 of 226

Bruce of Kambalda Posted at 11:23 PM April 22, 2010

 

Of course GPs are going to push you to get vaccinated - don't forget

they get paid lots for it! Those of you who pay the doc for flu

injections are paying for flu shots they get for FREE from the

government! It's a scam.

Comment 58 of 226

Sh@t Off of Perth Posted at 11:40 PM April 22, 2010

 

This is an absolute disgrace. Our two-year-old and five-year-old were

vaccinated last week on direct recommendation from the GP. The

two-year-old had a shocking fever that night and both have complained of

sore stomachs and suffered diarrhoea since. Then we only find out there's

a problem when the Health Minister pops up on the news sending parents

all over the State into a panic with no information. Where's the detail

on what's causing this? Where's the information I need to make sure my

kids are protected? Why is this happening and what are the possible

repercussions? I can't begin to say how angry I am about this. If my kids

have any long-term repercussions at all from this then whoever is

responsible will be getting a syringe full of dodgy flu vaccine jammed

where the sun don't shine. Kim Hames the buck stops with you.

Comment 59 of 226

Roger Posted at 11:45 PM April 22, 2010

 

My wife took our 19 months old boy for his flu vac last Friday 16th

in the morning - around 6pm he started with a very strong fever hitting

over 40 degrees! by midnight first we called the Helpline that directed

us to go to the After hours GP - we took him to Royal perth Hosp (After

hous GP), and we had to alternate paracetamol and neurofren for the next

24 hours. The fever just ended almost 48 hours after, and my boy is still

a bit sick, coughing and running nose. It was a big fright, but I feel

sorry for all the parents that had their kids with convulsions. Hope this

can be fixed as soon as possible by the government.

Comment 60 of 226

ben Posted at 11:56 PM April 22, 2010

 

Govt Rushing - don't be so pathetic. Legal case? You know the dangers

of vaccines going in. There has been no link established yet, just a

correlation.

Comment 61 of 226

Leesa of Northern Suburbs Posted at 12:34 AM Today

 

tarah of Perth. Comment 8, I agree. Dont vaccinate, Its dangerous!.

No way on this Earth are my kids having any flu vaccine, Especially that

swine vaccine. Not a hope!!

Comment 62 of 226

Worried Ballajura Mum of Ballajura Perth Western Australia. Posted at

12:41 AM Today

 

My husband and i took our to beautiful children aged 3 and 5 to get

their flu shot today before we heard about the suspension. I had not

wanted the swine flu vaccine as i have heard terrible news about it, but

has happy for them to have the influenza A and B that they have had

before. It was not until after the children had their injection that i

asked the nurse about her view on the swine flu vaccine and she said what

do you mean your children just had the swine flu and influenza A and B

all in one shot. I was totally unaware that it was all combined. Now i am

on a night vigil checking on my two wonderful children to make sure that

what was just injected into them does not do any harm. So far so good as

i have been giving them six hourly paracetamol so we will have to see how

we go the rest of the night. If children have been showing signs of an

adverse reaction for weeks why in the world have we not been told to even

take extra precautions. If i had known this before i would have taken my

chances of getting swine flu over the winter, i now think the odds are

better.

Comment 63 of 226

SH@t Off of Perth Posted at 12:44 AM Today

 

Is this for real? Following the apparently urgent warnings I went

looking for more information - the following is information taken from

the WA Dept of Healh website shortly befoe 1am today! This is just

negligent! For God's sake get the messages consistent and give us the

right information!!!!!! Here's what it says - great advice in the

circumstances ... " Vaccination against human swine flu is voluntary,

but everyone is encouraged to get vaccinated. There are two types of

vaccine available to protect you against human swine flu. Panvax will

protect against the human swine flu virus and is free for everyone over 6

months of age. Seasonal flu vaccine will protect against human swine flu

as well as two other strains of influenza. It is available to anyone on

prescription and is provided free for the following groups: pregnant

women children aged 6 months to 4 years in Western

Australia "

Comment 64 of 226

DBWookiee of Perth Posted at 2:04 AM Today

 

What did they do, buy the vaccine from Microsoft??? Test subjects are

now end users. " we'll work out the problems as they

arise " ???

Comment 65 of 226

David Perkins Posted at 3:21 AM Today

 

My mates one year old daughter is fighting for her life in Princess

Margret Hospital as we write our comments, she is the one on the news

referred to as critical. Give her your prayers and thoughts. Parents dont

take anything for granted with a vaccination, make sure it is right for

your child.

Comment 66 of 226

Kooyong Posted at 3:59 AM Today

 

There is a wealth of information on vaccines at naturalnews dot com.

Editor Mike Adams edits this site.

Comment 67 of 226

glenn Posted at 3:59 AM Today

 

why the hell would you get a child vaccinated against the flu ,are

you all friggin nuts

Comment 68 of 226

Island Boy of hanakapi'ai HI Posted at 4:51 AM Today

 

Well if anyone who has seen the TV series " V " would have bo

doubt about what is going on.

Comment 69 of 226

Julie Ripon of Ballarat, Vic Posted at 5:22 AM Today

 

I purchased two flu vaccines and was going to take my son 5 year old

son to the doctor today until, this news story. I paid $15 each for the

vaccine - can I take them back a refund? If not, it's a small price to

pay I guess for not having to go through what everyone else above

has.

Comment 70 of 226

Anthony of Coffs Posted at 5:27 AM Today

 

Flu vacs are only a scam for the government to give there drug

dealing mates heaps of money

Comment 71 of 226

Steph Fennell Posted at 5:58 AM Today

 

Physiological reaction after a vaccination is a good thing! It's a

sign that your immune system is mounting a defence against the antigen.

The better the defence, the better the vaccine has worked. That's the

whole point - you need your body to recognise and be able to vigorously

fight the bug next time the body encounters it. I am sick of uneducated

people banging on about how sick the vaccine made them and how it's so

bad for people. How would you feel if your kids actually came down with

influenza? You have a greater problem than a fever for a few hours. The

medial community are well aware that you are likely to come down with a

fever, aches and pains etc, it's an immune response people. Get over

it!

Comment 72 of 226

Mark of gold coast Posted at 6:29 AM Today

 

It's time there was a royal comission into the usefullness/dangers of

vaccination.

Comment 73 of 226

Nugget of Maryborough QLD Posted at 6:43 AM Today

 

Once you are vaccinated the side effects are irreversable who is

accountable for these vaccines that are so blantly false, is it the

Doctors that are brainwashed by the big pharmaceutical companies that

tell us we are all deficient in drugs,what a load of crap. Doctors today

do not even study health,they study disease,therefore they treat symptoms

and not the cause,they are taught virtually nothing about

nutrition,wellness or disease prevention expecting your doctor to guide

you on health issues is like expecting your accountant to pilot a jet

airliner its something that he or she has never been trained in, even a

genius cannot teach you something they know nothing about, pharmaceutical

drugs do not prevent any diseases, your body has no biological need for

any pharmaceuticals at all, people who believe they need pharmaceuticals

have simply been the victims of fabricated consent engineered by clever

advertising by the big pharmaceutical companies, if you believe them we

have virtually no role in our own health or healing,its all managed by

their drugs, its all a big lie that vaccines will cure disease, they are

not even looking for a cure, a patient cured is a patient lost,

Comment 74 of 226

Hasn't only happened in WA of NSW Posted at 6:45 AM Today

 

" ...the reported side effects had only happened in WA " .

Wrong - we're in NSW. My two children (4 and 6) along with my wife and me

were vaccinated four weeks ago. The kids both were up that night with 39

degree temps and our 4 year old son was particularly ill - if we hadn't

been so far away from a hospital, we would have taken him there. My wife

and I also had temps and headaches all the next day. We've been told the

children need a second shot (about now) but we will need to pull out.

Just because WA is the only state offering free vaccinations doesn't

preclude those who have (very foolishly it turns out) paid for the

vaccinations in other states.

Comment 75 of 226

Concerned of Perth Posted at 6:46 AM Today

 

It is best to build up a natural immunity - drug companies use scare

tatics and unfortunately Health Departments world wide go along with

them. You usually find people who die from influenza have other

underlying medical conditions. Where these vaccines manufactured locally

or like so many other products " made in China " or another

overseas country. Obvisously not tested fully.

Comment 76 of 226

Simone Meyer of Karratha WA Posted at 6:49 AM Today

 

I had my 18 month old vaccinated in Karratha WA a week ago. She also

had high temp and very unsettled for a few days.

Comment 77 of 226

Mum of 2 Posted at 6:55 AM Today

 

For those of you who said you received no information regarding side

effects, you should definitely talk to your GP. Every single time I

vaccinate my children (not just for flu) I am given a very thorough

information sheet and my GP discusses all the risks involved prior to

administering the vaccination. There are risks involved with any

vaccination. If this particular batch of flu vaccine is posing a greater

than normal risk, I hope they sort it out quickly. In saying that, I

would much rather a child with a fever than a child with influenza..

 

Comment 78 of 226

Z of Perth Posted at 6:59 AM Today

 

Yumm got to love that Mercury and Squalene cocktail. Yummo.

Comment 79 of 226

Katina of Adelaide Posted at 7:05 AM Today

 

I've just spent the whole night up with my 3 1/2 year old who had a

40.6 degree temperature along with vomiting and jerking/shivering after

having the flu vax yesterday at 11am. Was extremely scary. Not happy to

hear this story today. Makes you wonder whether the correct and adequate

research has been undertaken or whether it is part of a money making

scheme!

Comment 80 of 226

Blah of Perth Posted at 7:08 AM Today

 

High temperatures are a common side effect when young children are

given any vaccination. Most of the time, these side effects are made

known to parents and if not the parent should be asking what the side

effects are. Not to ask would just be negligent. Obviously the side

effects of this vaccination in young children should have been studied

for longer. But I certainly wouldn't have given it to my child who is

under five anyway. Shame on the health dept for not doing more thorough

testing for young children.

Comment 81 of 226

Sydneymum of Sydney Posted at 7:14 AM Today

 

It doesn't seem like this has happened just in WA, or for children

immunised within the last day or so. I am in Sydney and my 18 month old

daughter had the injection a few weeks ago. She ended up with a 40 degree

temperature that would not respond to Panadol, vomiting and a high heart

rate. At Royal North Shore they had three other children admitted the

same day after having the injection with similar symptoms. The triage

nurse told us she had seen " many " children with the similar

symptoms after having the injection. The doctor on duty also informed us

that the government had not even issued a Fact Sheet at that stage. Very

worrying indeed.

Comment 82 of 226

Dee Posted at 7:18 AM Today

 

This is a disgrace and should not be happening at all. I know someone

whose workplace had a free vaccinations session recently and most of the

people ended up sick after they were vaccinated with the new combined

H1N1 vaccine. Even the staff member that arranged the whole thing on

behalf of the company had to go home sick right after it. Some were still

off a few days later and others complaining of soreness and malaise. It

is obvious it is the vaccine that does this - why do idiot doctors and so

called professions still keep insisting " ooooh it can't be the

vaccine " . Do they think we are all as stupid as they are!

Comment 83 of 226

Alvin of Perth Posted at 7:27 AM Today

 

I think we are very much test subjects thus the free jab. No thank

you

Comment 84 of 226

Al Posted at 7:28 AM Today

 

The Government and Medical specialist keep telling us these vaccines

are safe.... and yet we still have these reactions. Is it any wonder

people are refusing to get their kids vaccinated ? These vaccines are

tested, against a small section of the community which is supposed to

give a representation of the general population... So, Your Children are

the test subjects. - For everything your GP wants to shoot into your

child: Ask what the difference is between an adult dose and a child dose,

ask what the adverse reactions could be, ask what the chances are of an

adverse reaction is. If you are not satisfied with the answers, dont get

the shot ! You DO have a legal right to refuse vaccinations to your

child. You will NOT be stopped from sending your child to school, it will

NOT affect any Family Assistance payments. Stick up for the health of

your child, as the government cannot.

Comment 85 of 226

Richard of Como Posted at 7:28 AM Today

 

My duaghter also had an extreme reaction three weeks ago and we took

her to PMH with a 40 degree temperature and heart rate over 220. Very

scary and not something I would ever want to experience again. While at

PMH, they said they had seen a steady stream of kids in with the same

reaction since Feb, and there was another child in with the same reaction

while we were there. Clearly there is something wrong here. I just hope

that its not soemthing that has had a long term effect on my

child.

Comment 86 of 226

Kay of yokine Posted at 7:29 AM Today

 

Unbelievable.

Comment 87 of 226

Pat Posted at 7:30 AM Today

 

This is terrible but not at all surprising. It was always a matter of

time until something like this happened to children. Many dog owners have

learned the hard way about the risks from vaccination. My service dog

suffered neurologically within hours of her 'routine' vaccination booster

and almost died as a result. I subsequently Googled 'Dogs + Vaccination +

Adverse reaction' and disovered that routine 'boosters' constitute risk

without benefit. If anyone tries this little exercise and then doesn't

doubt that there is overwhelming evidence suggestive of a conspiracy

involving those who benefit from the practice then they need their head

examined. Vaccine manufactures have a lot to gain from effectively

promoting their product and consumers perhaps should be more wary of

blindly accepting what they are told by those who benefit from their

compliance.

Comment 88 of 226

cjay of wa Posted at 7:37 AM Today

 

I dont think it is only children under 5 having reactions. My 6 year

old had his flu shot on tuesday morning and by dinner time was feeling

lethagic so he went to bed early. By 7pm he had a really high temp, but

thankfully nothing eventuated from it. I think the health department

needs to be aware of these facts, so other parents of children older than

this age are aware. I will be ringing the GP today to advise of the

reaction and I urge all other parents whose children have had any kind of

symptoms to do the same. Maybe then the government will stop

" all " flu vacinations. This is the first time I have had my

children vacinnated against the flu, and only did so under the advise of

the local GP because we are travelling overseas soon. I however, will not

be giving them to the kids next year.

Comment 89 of 226

My mother told me Posted at 7:42 AM Today

 

Well thank god I went with my gut feeling and said NO to the pushy

nurse who wanted to vax my 3 year old. Being pregnant, I had the flu vax

as I have had it many times before with no drama. Damned if you do damned

if you don't but in this case I am glad I DIDN'T with my tot! Atleast I

can fight it and know what is going on with my body, a 3 year old

doesn't.

Comment 90 of 226

JS of Perth Posted at 7:42 AM Today

 

I'm a luxury car salesman and I already had queries from some of my

lawyer clients - keep it coming!

Comment 91 of 226

understanding Posted at 7:43 AM Today

 

I wonder how many of these kids will end up falling into the autism

spectrum disorder? Give lots of vitamin C and omega supplements.

Comment 92 of 226

Arwen of WA Posted at 7:47 AM Today

 

Maybe it's the luck of the draw and/or a bad batch (seeing that it's

only reported in WA at the moment)... I'm an adult with low immune

system, and I get the free flu vax for health issues every year. Some

years I have fever peaks after the vaccine, some years I don't have any

reaction at all.

Comment 93 of 226

SamRocks26 Posted at 7:51 AM Today

 

No the government never think before hand - to get to the point

though these vaccines are a " watered " down version of the virus

and I think they should be trailed and tested stringently before being

released to the public. Even normal immunisations cause horrible

reactions when my son got his pneumococcal vaccine he had a high temp

vomiting and had a disgusting raised rash like he had measles for like a

week that is why I have not given my kids the flu jab and I will

certainly not be getting it myself - my best friend got her kids and

herself done in January and all three of them were sick for 3 weeks with

high temps, vomiting, diareah and the like and even now my friend has

noticed that the last 2 years they got the jabs that they have gotten

sick more then when they hadnt had them. I think the government needs to

stop scaring people into having these shots I mean this is a new vaccine

for a new flu strain and obviously hasnt been tested accordingly they

just want to rush it out there - trust me people your kids are better off

without the shots

Comment 94 of 226

Brent of Perth Posted at 7:51 AM Today

 

And thats why i have never had and never will have one of these

things, not worth the risks. Not enough testing is done on these things

before roll out.

Comment 95 of 226

curious Posted at 7:56 AM Today

 

These reactions so far are being reported as only occurring in WA.

Strange indeed, I doubt that we are the only State using these particular

batches. I wonder if it has any link to the 'storm' and the subsequent

prolonged power outage suffered by our vaccine suppliers?

Comment 96 of 226

Skippy of Camillo Posted at 7:56 AM Today

 

I heard last week that if you wanted a flu injection to wait a few

weeks. When Perth had that big thunderstorm and heaps of suburbs were out

of power for ages, some of the places stocking the flu vaccinations were

out of power for some time. I heard that they might not work as

efficiently...maybe this has something to do with all these sick

kiddies?

Comment 97 of 226

HuwGro of Secret Harbour Posted at 8:04 AM Today

 

Quacks won't tell people this but there is evidence to suggest Flu

injections, among others, cause Juvenile Diabetes.

Comment 98 of 226

Concerned Parent of Victoria Posted at 8:07 AM Today

 

This is not isolated to WA we are in Victoria. Our young one was at

the doctors last night - vomitting and high temperature after receiving

this flu vaccine and chicken pox immunisation - Doctor had no record of

these symptoms being recorded elsewhere. We are now going to report this.

Very concerning as parents as you place great trust in the AMA to be on

top of these things quickly - it appears someone is not. Question : how

widely has this been tested and what contrary indications have been

reported and who has followed it up?

Comment 99 of 226

Sheesh Posted at 8:08 AM Today

 

 

 

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/04/17/major-vaccine-suspended-due-to-contamination-with-pig-virus.aspx

hmmm???

Comment 100 of 226

Sally of Perth Posted at 8:08 AM Today

 

I am very pro-vaccination, and was due to take my 3-year-old for his

vaccination next week; however, after reading the tales here from other

mothers concerning the condition of their children after recieving the

immunisation, I am in a quandry. I would like to know what the difference

is between the percentage of children hospitalised due to the vaccine and

those hospitilised with influenza? So if anyones has that information,

please comment.

Comment 101 of 226

Sally of Perth Posted at 8:17 AM Today

 

My 18 month old was vaccinated in Monday and my three year old on

Wednesday and both came down with high fevers. My three year old still

wasn't right the next day. I wish we had known about this

sooner.

Comment 102 of 226

nightskywoman` of Perth Posted at 8:19 AM Today

 

This is a terrible story and I know how awful it is to watch your

child having convulsions. But have to ask why parents feel the need to

have their children vaccinated at such a very very young age. One toddler

was only 10 months old!! Did without flu shots in the past so why the

need now? Please stop using kids as guinea pigs they are way too

precious.

Comment 103 of 226

KC of Perth Posted at 8:20 AM Today

 

My son had the vaccine last year and had the sniffles for 1 day -

then didn't catch as much as a cold all year (plus he was around sick

kids all year round at daycare). Must be a bad batch for this many kids

to become so ill.

Comment 104 of 226

sue of yangebup Posted at 8:23 AM Today

 

my grandaughter had the shot this week and my daughter was telling me

yesterday on skype how sick she was. we did not know about other kids

being so sick. My 2 year old grandaughter looked sick and told me, nannie

me sick. she had been vomiting and had such a high temp but because i

told my daughter she could have a reaction she put up with it but she was

scared with severity of it.

Comment 105 of 226

LH Posted at 8:32 AM Today

 

I have a 12 month old daughter who is due to be vaccinated for this

next week. A few days ago she had a mild fever (under 38) and she had a

febrile convulsion - so they can happen regardless of if they have just

been vaccinated or not. whilst they look very scary (especially if you

don't know what's happening) i was told by all the Dr's they are pretty

harmless. i think i would rather deal with a grizzly high temp child for

a day or 2 after a vaccine than a grizzly, high temp (plus all the other

symptoms)child who had the flu or swine flu which would last for more

than a day or 2 and be much more threatening to their health. but i'll

await the outcome of the investigation and decide from there. As for this

12 hour businness - don't they mean they are only likely to be affected

in the 12 hours after their vaccine - not it will only affect those

vaccinated in the last 12 hours????

Comment 106 of 226

Mark of Perth Posted at 8:36 AM Today

 

Comment 18 > unfortunately there is very little testing - of

either the flu part of the vaccine or the many other ingredients. We do

know that many of the other ingredients are toxic to the body - not just

short term but also long term. Unfortunately the profit of major

corporations come before your children and mine. They have deep pockets

to spend on advertising etc. When a number medical professionals and

their families abstain from vaccinations then you get an appreciation of

the potential downside. And remember GP's make extra money on reaching

quotas.

Comment 107 of 226

Sick Twins of Gidgegannup Posted at 8:37 AM Today

 

On Wednesday this week, 1 day before they suspended vaccinations for

children under 5, I had my twin girls 2.3 yo get the vaccination, both

had high fevers and 1 was sick 3 times thru the night, they seem to both

wake up okay in the morning. I really do feel for the parents of the kids

that had to be rushed off to hospital because of this vaccination

programme, why didn't the nurse that gave the shot;s say something surely

they must know. It's fine to say that the could get a slight fever and

not feel well, but there is a big difference between that and rushing

your child to hospital. Isn't it amazing that OH & S standards within

the work place for private companies has reach rediculous level's but the

government don't answer to anyone, people should lose their jobs over

this absolute stuff up.

Comment 108 of 226

Alysia Posted at 8:37 AM Today

 

I was told by a nurse at PMH over a week ago to hold off on giving my

9 month old the flu vacc as it was causing a spike in febrile convulsions

and temperatures. Why did the government not err on the side of caution

over a week ago when this was already apparent ? I will still be getting

him vaccinated when the new batch is released.

Comment 109 of 226

Mary Regts of Perth Posted at 8:40 AM Today

 

WA is the testing ground; that is just it! Why else is is free; is it

to lessen litigation?

Comment 110 of 226

mandurahmum Posted at 8:40 AM Today

 

if you ask about the side effects, you would know that fever,

grumpiness, vomiting and diarrhea are listed side effects of any

vaccination. it is a personal choice to get a vaccination, one that

should be made taking into consideration all aspects. but please do not

panic and refuse to get your vaccinated for any illness, through

injections we have been able to wipe out many diseases that kill

children. if third world countries had access to our health programs

their childhood mortality rates would be significantly less

Comment 111 of 226

mother of 4 darlings Posted at 8:47 AM Today

 

i had my 4 children aged 10,6,3 and 2 vaccinated early last week and

within 6 hours they all had high temps, vomiting and aches in their body.

By morning they were feeling a little better but still no quite

themselves, i also had the vaccine i didn't get as sick as them but did

not quite feel my normal self, I am very mad about this you are told this

is the best way to prevent your child from getting sick and yet this

happens what is going on, this needs to be investigated more my three

younger ones need another shot in a months time i don't think i will

letting them have them.

Comment 112 of 226

Nikki Posted at 8:52 AM Today

 

RE:Educated Mum! Posted at 8:12 PM April 22, 2010 Apparent;y not

educated at all otherwise you would know that the flu jab does not cover

the swine flu!!! Two very different injuections, back to being educated

for you.....and my advice is DON'T DO IT!!!!

Comment 113 of 226

love my gut feeling Posted at 8:55 AM Today

 

So glad i went with my gut and riped up the letter from medicare :)

please dont put that rubbish in your child or you Healing thoughts to the

children that are still sick from the meds

Comment 114 of 226

Dave of Perth Posted at 8:56 AM Today

 

Flu jabs can't make you sick as they have an innactive strain of the

flue. Right??? How many time have you beent old that only to get very

sick afterwards.

Comment 115 of 226

Dr Lajoie Posted at 9:06 AM Today

 

An obvious side-effect of vaccination, and they recommend to treat in

with another drug. A fever is a defense mechanism that indicates

something has invaded the body. There is no such thing as a bad batch,

only experimental batches!!

Comment 116 of 226

The Clairvoyant of WA Posted at 9:08 AM Today

 

No way would I either subject my child to this 'vaccine' or have it

put into me. Stay away from people who are coughiong and sneezing, wash

your hands a lot and take plenty of vitamin C. There is mercury, pig

matter and a lot of other unsavoury material in these 'vaccines'.

 

Comment 117 of 226

M Posted at 9:09 AM Today

 

After the hail storm a couple of weeks ago, we were told at work that

we had to wait for our shots another week because the flu vaccine had

been contaminated after a power failure ( presumably from the storm). Now

the health dept is saying there could be a bad batch behind the Worse

than normal bad reactions?????my 2 yr old son had a fairly bad reaction

on we'd to this years shot. He had no reaction last year. Face it, we (

the non conspiricist theory masses) get vaccinated because we put our

faith in our health professionals because they know more about these

things and I'm fine with that. If it turns out they have dropped the ball

with providing bad batches of vaccine and taking so long (weeks) to do

anything about it then I'll be using the legal professionals to get

retribution.

Comment 118 of 226

Sue of Perth Posted at 9:10 AM Today

 

My boys,7 and 4, were vaccinated three weeks ago. No side effects.

People don't die from vaccinations but people have died from the flu. I

am so happy to live in an age where people have a choice of getting some

sort of protection.

Comment 119 of 226

Sue of Victoria Posted at 9:16 AM Today

 

My 3 year old grandson was hospitalised with very high temp and

convulsions, after getting a flu shot that morning. He had to endure a

lumber puncture and had an I.V for 24 hours. Was this a co-incidence? He

was not ill at all, and has never experienced fevers like that, and he

has not had a flu shot before. Medical staff could/would not blame the

vac; but strongly suggested he not have another. We are in country

Victoria - I believe this 'bad batch' is more widespread than

W.A.

Comment 120 of 226

Never Gonna Vaccinate of Western Australia Posted at 9:17 AM Today

 

 

I have a 12 week old baby girl and have not and will never give her a

single vaccination of ANY kind, READ WHAT IS IN THEM PEOPLE! open your

eyes they are full of chemicals and heavy metals and other things that

are just not good for a adult let alone a tiny baby!!

Comment 121 of 226

One Hundred Buckets of Fish Posted at 9:19 AM Today

 

Just because it's free doesn't mean you have to take it. I was

bullied by a previous workplace as I repeatedly refused to have the

shots. Every person there got sick, and somehow I managed to dodge it.

Karma? Or just luck of the draw? Either way, you have the right to choose

if you immunise or not.

Comment 122 of 226

Go the Magpies of Perth Posted at 9:25 AM Today

 

The reason the Minister is saying only if your child has had the

vaccine in the last 12 hours, is because the side effects would have

subsided by now, so only keep a closer eye on those who have had it the

most recently....DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH PEOPLE!!

Comment 123 of 226

JJ of Beechboro Posted at 9:35 AM Today

 

Anthony of Coffs, I like your comment. There are definitely legal and

illegal drug dealers in this country! Please parents, make informed

choices.

Comment 124 of 226

Jane Posted at 9:36 AM Today

 

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE people research the effects of vaccinations

before you give them to your children. I was like everyone else &

believed what we were all being told, but then when I had my first baby I

decided to investigate further. I was horrified by what I read, & no

it wasn't " unreliable " internet sources I got my information

from (though of course there are many reliable sources on the internet

now - Dr Mercola being one of them). I got books out from the library. As

a result of my research I have not vaccinated my children. I rarely tell

people that as there is such fear about non-vaccinated children. My

eldest is now in her late teens & all of my children are very

healthy. They have only had the occasional cold & that is not even

every year. I worry for these children that are given so many vaccines,

they are giving them more & more nowadays. There are links to autism

from the MMR vaccine. Please don't just believe what you are told.

Research thoroughly & not just the government websites. Then, if you

still wish to vaccinate, know that you are doing it fully informed &

not because you have been told to do it. Our kids have no say in what we

do to them!

Comment 125 of 226

Lisa of Perth Posted at 9:36 AM Today

 

I am so sorry to hear about all these sick kids, and I pray they all

get better. I was one of the lucky ones - I had all 3 of my kids (age 2,4

& 6) & myself vaccinated last week & we had no side effects

at all. Like past comments I also heard that the blackout caused problems

& alot of batches had to be destroyed - did they destroy

them????

Comment 126 of 226

doug of Perth Posted at 9:39 AM Today

 

To SEH, comment 48, yes your son is just very lucky. Immunizations

work and have wiped out many diseases and are well on the way to wiping

out more. If you look at the numbers kids who aren't immunized are far

more likely to get measles than kids who were. That said, this flu

vaccine is a bit of a worry and people do need to be careful

Comment 127 of 226

Dianne of Wanneroo of Wanneroo Posted at 9:40 AM Today

 

Help combat flu in your children. Cook chicken (free range) with

fresh vegies, and whole knob of garlic (take skin off & leave pieces

whole). Take chicken out after an hour & half simmering, remove

bones, and fatty skin, but leave some skin with the chicken - cut up

chicken and add back to soup plus ctn chicken stock. Add small soup pasta

& cook for further 20 mins. Secret is garlic - add garlic to potatoes

(whole garlic pieces) when boiling for mashed potatoes - if you leave

pieces garlic whole (less skin) then you don't get huge garlic taste

throughout you meal. If child has flu, each night cut an onion and place

each half on sauce and put on cupboard either side of child. The onion

absorbs bacteria, throw away in the morning and keep repeating when child

sleeps. Rub chest with Vicks and gently 'pummel' back and massage to

release any mucus. Healing touch of mothers/parents hands are a great

healer and hum softly whilst rocking them from time to time. Plenty sips

water and bath forehead and back of neck and feet

Comment 128 of 226

Sam of NSW Posted at 9:46 AM Today

 

This happened with the swine flu vaccine too, but the media covered

it up.

Comment 129 of 226

atarah of perth Posted at 9:48 AM Today

 

isnt it funny-- Everyone is coming out and telling their dangerous

stories of vaccines. Wake up parents.. its not safe to

vaccitnate

Comment 130 of 226

Atirah of perth Posted at 9:50 AM Today

 

PMH hospital needs business- without vaccines there wont be ill

children... without ill children-- No PMH hospital--Big business... kids

were never sick like this in the old days...

Comment 131 of 226

Alphabet of Perth Posted at 9:54 AM Today

 

It is quite normal for young kids to get high temperatures and aches

following any vaccines but the problem with this flu vaccine in

particular seems to be the high number with vomiting and convulsions

which are much rarer and more serious side-effects. Come on parents,

educate yourselves - don't take the governments word for it but try to do

some research and make your own decisions. I won't tell anyone to

vaccinate or not to vaccinate: the decision is the parents alone, but at

least ask some questions before making that decision. For the record, our

2.5 year-old has not had the flu vaccine.

Comment 132 of 226

Kylie of Perth Posted at 9:55 AM Today

 

Our government provides certain vaccines for free in the best

interest of our community, all medications we give ourselves and our

children are given on a risk v benefit scenario. We immunised our self

and our children because the risks of immunisation are far less than the

risk of contracting the disease they prevent against.

Comment 133 of 226

Jasmine B of West Perth Posted at 9:57 AM Today

 

would everyone who has had adverse reactions PLEASE report them??

unless there is an uprising of people & parents that want to know the

real truth then the government & big pharma will never be held

responsible. Consider your children lucky it was only a fever & not

something more sinister or fatal, as with other vaccine

reactions.

Comment 134 of 226

Ryan of Perth Posted at 10:04 AM Today

 

Out of love i tell you, do not take your children to get any

vaccinations. They are sponsored by a government who has no concern for a

righteous God and his ways. I would not be surprised if vaccinations are

part of a plan by elements of the NWO who are attempting to inject us

with a ticking time bomb. The NWO make no secret of the fact that their

primary goal is to reduce the population by 5 billion odd. Pray to God

for help, we need it.

Comment 135 of 226

Pox Posted at 10:06 AM Today

 

These are the side affects. Deal with it or get sick!

Comment 136 of 226

unimpressed of perth Posted at 10:10 AM Today

 

Understanding-92 Autism is a genetic problem, we as parents pass on

Autism to our children, my child doctor explained this to me. My daughter

has high functioning Autism and yes she had Autism before she had

vaccinations.

Comment 137 of 226

Finn of Perth Posted at 10:15 AM Today

 

" kids were never sick like this in the old days... " Mostly

because pre-vaccinations, they tended to DIE. Seriously. Vaccinations are

the reason you never suffered from rubella, polio or a number of terrible

diseases. The anti-vaccination crowd claim substances like thiomersal and

MMR in vaccines caused autism. They removed MMR from vaccinations. The

numbers of cases of autism still went up. The main proponent of the

anti-vaccination movement was recently disbarred as a medical doctor

because his " Research " on the issue was found to be flawed and

unethical. And guess what? Diseases like whooping cough and polio, once

considered to be " wiped out " ? They're coming back, because the

anti-vaccination crowd prey upon fear and ignorance. Ten minutes of

*proper* research would show this.

Comment 138 of 226

Ryan of Perth Posted at 10:15 AM Today

 

Any lawyers keen for a fight against pharma? I don't condone civil

court action but these people need a check.

Comment 139 of 226

angry Posted at 10:16 AM Today

 

This is not just limited to kids. My dad who has a heart condition

was given the vaccine as to prevent the flu because it would be unsafe to

his heart, within hrs he developed a temerature of 41.5 degrees and he

was shaking violently and vomitting!. He was admited to the emergency

where his blood pressure plummeted to 40/20 and he slipped briefly in to

a COMA!!!! All because of a flu jab!! He is ok now but he said never

again! He gave us a huge scare! This is not just limited to kids but to

adults with other conditions!

Comment 140 of 226

Perth Dad of Perth Posted at 10:20 AM Today

 

My daughter, 11 months old got high temp up to 39 after 9 hours for

the flu injection on April 19, 2001, together with the swine flu

injection. My elder daughter, 6 years, just got swine flu at the same

day, and OK.

Comment 141 of 226

tyrus of perth Posted at 10:23 AM Today

 

autism is caused by vaccines- no doubt about it. Im a nanny and the

child I look after had the mmr shot and then austism struck...

Comment 142 of 226

Busta Hymen of Fremantle Posted at 10:34 AM Today

 

It seams that a lot of people in Australia don't know about natural

vaccinations. Go see a Naturopath and find out how easy and reliable they

are. My family members only vaccinate this way and have no side affects

and are all in good health. Food for thought hey

Comment 143 of 226

Kylie of Perth Posted at 10:36 AM Today

 

Jane while I understand your choice not to vaccinate your children,

and that they have been healthy, I think it is worth noting that one of

the reasons your children were able to get to adulthood without any

serious illnesses is the fact that the vast majority of children are

vaccinated in our society. As someone who works in health care, I

routinely see children contract preventable diseases because they are

either too young to be vaccinated, and they have come in contacted with

an unimmunised child or they have never been vaccinated themselves. If

you are choosing consientious objection to immunisation you should be

aware of what the diseases we are trying to protect our children from

are, and what they can do. Some of them can be extremely dangerous,

that's why we immunise against them. If nothing else, swine flu should

have taught us that. I have seen way too many people critically ill from

swine flu, with their lives in danger, and we are not expecting this year

to be much different. I too know many people who have had a fever

following this years flu immunisation, but for me I would rather have

that than influenza.

Comment 144 of 226

concerned mum of 2 Posted at 10:39 AM Today

 

i am so glad i have my two boys (both under 5) booked in to have

their flu vac's in 2 weeks time - hopefully all should be ok by then! my

eldest son had a febrile convulsion at 9 months of age - scariest thing i

have ever experienced!

Comment 145 of 226

Practical Mum of Perth Posted at 10:40 AM Today

 

I have two kids under 5, myself and them had flu vacc's last year and

we all still got the flu badly. This year, no vacc (especially now), i

will deal with the flu when/or if they get it as with any other illness

they might get. These flu strains seem to constantly mutate and form new

strains that isn't covered by the vacc's. Last year we all got the flu at

various times, and by staying home, isolated, resting and dealing with

symptoms as they arise...we all recovered each time within about 4 days.

This included high fevers, vomitting, headaches. I still fully support

the immunisation programm for the major illnesses such as: measles, TB,

rubella, etc. But it is scary that this current flu vacc can bring on

such high fevers and feverile convulstions...i'm not willing to risk the

chance of seizures. I think it is still healthy to keep questioning what

is going into our bodies, and keep the health dept and practitioners on

their toes....and we are all blindly putting alot of trust into a health

dept chosen third party (drug making company), that they are making,

storing, transporting these drugs safely....when a drug making's main

concern is making money.

Comment 146 of 226

EL of nowhere near a hospital Posted at 10:41 AM Today

 

why would a parent vaccinate a child I wonder! Do you research on

what these vaccinations consist of then ask would you inject yourself and

your loved ones with these poisons.

Comment 147 of 226

mum of special boy Posted at 10:45 AM Today

 

My son had a 30 minute long febrile convulsion 2 weeks ago today

after receiving the flu needle. When we took him to PMH after thinking he

was going to die because he was making choking noises, they said they had

already had a lot of kids through that were febrile after the flu

injection. I'll never let anyone give him one again.

Comment 148 of 226

koji parent Posted at 10:47 AM Today

 

My 3yr old was vaccinated 4 weeks ago - no sign of any side effect.

But then none of my 4 children over the last 16 yrs have ever had a bad

side effect from any vaccine. Just lucky I guess.

Comment 149 of 226

bob Posted at 10:55 AM Today

 

Finn. While your comments are perhaps spot on in regards to

imunisation in general, this is a different case entirely. I agree that

the small risk of side effects is offset by the greater good of

vacinations. However in this case they have got it wrong and are guilty

of acting too slowly. Serious side effects have been presented to the

hospital for weeks now that are signifcantly above what would be

considered normal and they have been covered up and not disclosed to the

public. Somthing is cerainly wrong with this particular injection - i

know too many babies who have needed to go to hospital, some very sick.

The way doctors grand-stand on this issue and suggest that non-doctors

are not entitled to an opinion is dangerous. People are shouted down if

they ever question vacinations and what we are seeing is a result of the

arrogance of the medical profession.

Comment 150 of 226

Marlene from Mullaloo of Communications from The Krib Posted at 10:57 AM

Today

 

omg I am so pleased my girlfriend did'nt take her baby to have it.

When I mentioned it to her, she was adamant that as she was/is breast

feeding, her baby would be receiving enough antibodies. I feel so sorry

for anyone whose baby is ill as a result of this, poor parents trying to

protect their babies as best they can.

Comment 151 of 226

TheMoreILearnTheLessIKnow of Perth Posted at 10:57 AM Today

 

Finn of Perth, i spent over 18mnths studying research on pro's and

con's of vaccines. I concluded that if I had time back, I would not

vaccinate my kids, although they are up to speed. Why fix what's not

broke? However, i am not against vaccinating against main diseases, but

everything else?? In my humble opinion we need to eat well and do

everything to support our brilliant immune system. illnesses come in

cycles and can coincide with breaks in vaccinations. From research I

looked at some thoughts on the matter was that in the far distant future,

vaccines will be seen as the biggest faux par of the 21st century. Shame

we won't live long enough to find out if this is true. I have worked with

many swine flu patients during the outbreak here and was luckily never

sick but I lived on good grub, and immune supplements. All

opinions/rights to vaccinate should be personal and respectful, no one

should be forced either way. Whether an outbreak is down to lack of shots

or not, is something we may well find out in the future. Either way, I

would not want my kids to get every vaccine going, just because, just in

case. Why not have a bit of chemo, just in case...

Comment 152 of 226

Perth chic of Perth Posted at 11:00 AM Today

 

There are so many ill informed people out there. The whole anti-Vac

movement is a nightmare. Just because your child does not get the vac it

affects the immunity of the entire population. Just think about the

little girl who died last year of whoping cough as she was too young to

be immunised. She caught it from other children WHO HAD NOT been

vaccinated as their parents have the stupid attitude that the kids need

to catch all the kiddy diseases to toughen their immune system up!!!!!

Stupid, selfish, uneducated morons. Kids need to be vaccinated for their

health and for the health of others.

Comment 153 of 226

tan sw of Bunbury Posted at 11:02 AM Today

 

My daughter is 7 and had the injection last Monday, woke up feeling

sick in the tummy with a high temperature, makes us as parents wondering

if we have done the right thing. My four year old has to wait due to

having her 4 year old needles, so now we will question what to do in 5

weeks,! ! !

Comment 154 of 226

Jac of WA Posted at 11:02 AM Today

 

Dave Perkins Comment 66,I hope your friends 1 year old daughter will

be ok,She is in my thoughts and prayers.

Comment 155 of 226

Father of Three Posted at 11:03 AM Today

 

koji parent: You're not " just lucky " , you're one of the

99.9 per cent who have no problems with vaccinations. And your children

are lucky to have a parent like you who has acted responsibly to protect

them from some of the most horrific diseases known to man. My children

are lucky for the same reason. Well done!?

Comment 156 of 226

Dr Common Sense Posted at 11:09 AM Today

 

To those who say their child had high temps (no other symptoms) that

is just a common side effect of having any vaccination?!?!?! Some of you

are getting a bit carried away. (my post is NOT directed to those whose

children suffered from convulsions)

Comment 157 of 226

unimpressed of perth Posted at 11:10 AM Today

 

tyrus of perth -142 the child would have had Autism at birth,there

are alot of types of Autism. Perhaps this child has a different disorder,

kids are born with Autism or maybe the parents didn't know the signs?

 

Comment 158 of 226

Dapperado of out west Posted at 11:18 AM Today

 

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Comment 159 of 226

J Morris Posted at 11:21 AM Today

 

I had my 16 month old and 3 year old vacinated yesterday afternoon

and they are absolutely fine! Hope it stays that way!

Comment 160 of 226

GJ of cannington Posted at 11:22 AM Today

 

My dear jesus, what can I say. I vaccinated my 4 year old daughter

for the first time only becos we planned for a holiday overseas and I

just wanted the best for her. But when I watched yesterdays news @ 6.00,

I was speechless and I am not just out of the shock yet.I just thought I

was doing something good and looks like as a mother I have failed to

protect my child putting my faith on the medical professionals. Though

she didn't develop any symptoms,this worries me a lot. How many poor kids

and moms. What kind of a health system this is? Just can't beleive.

 

Comment 161 of 226

Mother of 1 of Edgewater Posted at 11:24 AM Today

 

My 14 month old son had his swine flu/regular flu shot a month ago

and was absolutely fine. I strongly believe it may be a bad batch however

this is really not good enough for the hundreds of worried parents out

there that are constantly questioning whether they are doing the right

thing by their child. It certainly doesn't give you confidence when these

issues arise however I believe each to their own. It is your individual

choice as to whether you vaccinate your child and you shouldn't be made

to feel guilty if you do or don't take this action. Consequences will at

times arise and generally it arises a lot more when we do not vaccinate.

Parents need to be informed and make knowledgable decisions rather then

jumping on the vaccinations are not good band wagon. I am confident as a

parent that I have done the right thing by my child.

Comment 162 of 226

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Comment 163 of 226

Another Perth Parent Posted at 11:37 AM Today

 

I'll add to the list. We had a 7, 4 and 2 yr old vaccinated on

Monday. That night they were all burning up and all needed Panadol, very

unsettled night for all. I was worried enough to be googling for known

side effects to the annual flu shot, it was very obviously related. My

wife had it same day and was affected also but not anywhere near the same

extent. We all have it every year and never had anything like

this.

Comment 164 of 226

Father of one of Perth Posted at 11:38 AM Today

 

To those who oppose vaccinations, look back in history at the

millions of lives saved from vaccines (e.g. measles, polio, influenzae).

The side effects (transient fever, vomiting) with the flu vaccination is

in my opinion a very small price to pay for protection against the flu

which can definitely kill. Have we forgotten that many healthy young

people died from swine flu last year? Most of the people who don't

vaccinate their kids are hypocritical as they depend on everybody else

vaccinating theirs to protect their own kids from getting sick (herd

immunity). People need to grow up, get educated and informed. The

conspiracy theories about the government and big pharmaceuticals trying

to poison the population are ridiculous and very far fetched. The

Government wants people to be vaccinated so that the hospitals (which are

already busting if you haven't noticed) don't fill up with kids/adults

with measles and flu.

Comment 165 of 226

Mother of 3 under 5 of Success Posted at 11:48 AM Today

 

I had all my 3 boys vaccinated for flu too and all had 39 degree temp

and vomiting within 6 hours of the injection too. Im unaware even if they

had febrile convulsion as they woke crying in the middle of the

night.

Comment 166 of 226

Confused Mum Posted at 11:50 AM Today

 

I'm confused here, is this 'flu shot' different to the 12mths old

immunisation? Because my 12 mths old is due for the immunisation and i

dont know what to do here.....

Comment 167 of 226

Miles Ruhl of Perth Posted at 11:51 AM Today

 

Well my first question is what the heck are you vaccinating against

the flu for!?! Maybe if you are 85 and quite sick already, but not

healthy people and kids. Healthy people will be fine, just feel a bit

crappy for a few days and kids it will build up their immune system

NATURALLY. Natural eh, well there's a thought! Talk about panic over

nothing. Harden up people, the flu is part of life!!!

Comment 168 of 226

Watcher of the real world Posted at 11:52 AM Today

 

We all had our annual flu shot on Monday - hubby myself and 3

children. It was the combined flu shot. No side effects for us this year,

not even a corked arm. We started vaccinating our children against the

flu 4 years ago and every day I am thankful I did. My son at age 3.5 was

in a small group of children who came into contact with both influenza A

and strep B at the same time...of this group of children, one little boy

died, his brother was very very ill for weeks. Three quarters of the

children in that group contracted influenza A and were quite ill for a

fortnight. Four of them hospitalized. My son had a sore throat from the

strep B and that's it. It was after this combination influenza A/Strep B

killed 4 otherwise healthy young WA children under 5 within weeks of each

other that the govt started offering the free flu jab for under 5's. So

yes, ordinary everyday illnesses can combine to kill.

Comment 169 of 226

Hmmm Posted at 11:53 AM Today

 

GJ of cannington Posted at 11:22 AM Today " How many poor kids

and moms " Do Dads not matter??

Comment 170 of 226

Mother of 3 of Secret Harbour Posted at 11:58 AM Today

 

motherofperth - Is it so hard for you to do your own research?? Why

does the govt need to do it for you? Also the Govt didnt make your child

ill. YOU chose to have your child vaccinated, they gave you a choice,

they didnt force it on you. My kids all get Vaccinated as I have done my

own research and found that the benefits far outweigh the side effects.

Nikki Posted at 8:52 AM Today - she obviously IS educated as this years

flu vac was combined with the swine flu vac. From the QLD Govt website -

Yes, the 2010 winter seasonal influenza vaccine includes the human swine

influenza antigen as well as two other influenza antigens. Why should my

kids have to put up with unvaccinated kids in their class rooms. 2yrs ago

I was told that I needed to leave work to get my childs current

immunisation status report from Medicare as another child had whooping

cough and as a precautionary measure all kids that werent vaccinated were

being excluded from class until they were cleared by a Dr. I have no

respect for people who are willing to put MY children in danger through

their own selfish beliefs

Comment 171 of 226

Philboy of Perth Posted at 11:58 AM Today

 

Better a temporary high fever than the flu these shots prevent, these

flu bugs KILL kids and older/sick people. I'm having mine today.

 

Comment 172 of 226

J.M. of Perth Posted at 11:58 AM Today

 

Sorry to hear about all the little ones who have had such bad

reactions. I hope they recover with no permanent issues. I found it

ironic that even though we have CO forms on file for both of our

children, the government still mailed us a letter telling us to bring our

youngest in for a free flu jab. Hmm...do they bother to check who has

filed CO forms? Why would someone who objects to " regular "

vaccinations bring in their child for a flu jab? I'm sure we're not the

only ones who received the letter. Imagine all the tax money wasted on

postage...sigh...bureaucracy at its best!

Comment 173 of 226

Flying of the handle Posted at 12:00 PM Today

 

Bad batch or not the fact is there is not enough long term research

into vaccinations in general. There is no doubt that some very dangerous

diseases have been bought under control by mass vaccination. The other

fact is it has also caused many healthy children to develop Autism and

other brain disorders like ADD ADHD. The danger of mass infection

outbreaks is less than the danger of complications (some difficult to

prove). Dont endanger your healthy child. Dont vaccinate.

Comment 174 of 226

Rosie of Floreat Posted at 12:03 PM Today

 

I had my two children (3 years and 16 months) vaccinated about 2

weeks ago. It was my 3 year old's third flu vac and my 16 month old's

first half dose. No side effects at all. I am just wondering do I risk

getting my 16 month old vaccinated again in a month's time for his second

half dose????????

Comment 175 of 226

MomofToddlerNOR of Joondalup Posted at 12:03 PM Today

 

I am glad I held off, not keen on giving vaccinations for ordinary

type diseases, like the flu. However, I think people are misreading the

advice. The danger period that the health department is giving is within

the 12 hours after the vaccination, not just vaccines used in the last 12

hours. I always give Nurofen prior to vaccinations which against the

reccomendation, but mu toddler has never had a fever after any

vaccinations. Not sure if this has any bearing on the matter.

Comment 176 of 226

Concerned of Perth Posted at 12:03 PM Today

 

It was a matter of time... Lets look at how a flu vaccine is

processed. Firstly the virus is isolated. The vaccine is then developed,

it is then tested (we are led to believe) and then production occurs.

This process takes at least several months. We know also the flu virus is

mutating all the time. So when we get the flu shot we are being immunised

against a virus that hit sydney about 6 months ago that may or may not

ever have come to Perth. The Swine flu scare was the perfect opportunity

for the government to say we can't vaccinate against it- we've got

nothing... So everyone needs to be as fit as you can, strengthen your

immune system, eat well, sleep well, etc. But no- stay inside, stay away

from everyone, and we'll rush through the next vaccine. This will not be

the last scare with these vaccines as they rush them through quicker and

quicker. I really do hope all the kids affected by this are

alright

Comment 177 of 226

Seekthetruth Posted at 12:05 PM Today

 

People this is so terrible. Look at what is happening to our

beautiful children!!! Anyone who had a child react to this vaccine or any

vaccine for that matter, you should be angry!!!! I chose not to vaccinate

my children after spending hours of reading up on the issues with vaccine

ingredients, safety and efficacy. It's a disgrace how governments bow

down to pharmacuetical companies multi billion dollar strong hold over

our so called best interests and 'health'. Vaccines are making us sick!

Bottom line. If your child had a bad reaction, get angry and be sure to

let the media know how you feel too. I'm tired of the totally biased pro

vaccine arguments we see in the media on a regular basis. Stand up for

your child and be heard!! Please this is a perfect oppurtunity.

Comment 178 of 226

Confidence of own immunity Posted at 12:07 PM Today

 

Comment 153, get your facts straight, the poor child that died from

whooping cough because she was too young to be vaccinated caught it from

another that was also too young to be vaccinated. Vaccination does not

guarantee you will never catch the disease. Research, not blind faith in

the medical profession will enlighten your feeble mind.

Comment 179 of 226

John of Lesmurdie Posted at 12:09 PM Today

 

I have been saying this for many years now, that these vaccines are

dangerous and they inject small amount of the actual flue into a person's

body. However, Government Ministers, Doctors, and Pharmaceutical

companies have ignored this advice because they are only interested in

votes/money.

Comment 180 of 226

Father of 4. of SOR Posted at 12:10 PM Today

 

Firstly I hope the affected kids get well soon. This news is

unfortunate about the severity of the flu jab reaction in the affected

kids. Fortunately our kids are fine after their injections at the start

of the week, though they have been off colour abit and ratty. It sounds

like the vaccination batch management process needs revision, as they may

have cross contaminated batches across after they where supposed to be

replaced. Now before people condemn vaccinations generally they need to

do research on the severity of the diseases these vaccinations protect

against. Then if they decide to NOT get the Flu jab for their kids then

so be it. However they should not then whine about how sick their kids

are if they get the full dose of swine flu. As for immunisations for the

main diseases like polio, whooping cough, diptheria and tuberculosis,

remember that most of these diseases use differing types of vaccination

methods to a flu jab, so lumping all vaccinations as bad is rubbish.

Basically a parent is neglecting a child if they dont protect them

against the lethal diseases. So once they replace the flu batches again

our kids will be going back for their second flu jabs.

Comment 181 of 226

Community Nurse of North West WA Posted at 12:12 PM Today

 

Comment 121, I hope for your little girls sake that she never gets

sick and in turn passes on a highly communicable virus to other vaxed

children. I find your comments selfish but you have that right. I have

seen a very sick child that was not vaxed and let me tell you it was

heart renching, the child passed away all because the mother suck to her

guns, which was rediculous considering she lived in a remote aboriginal

community. She put her child at risk for what price?

Comment 182 of 226

Seekthetruth Posted at 12:16 PM Today

 

Perth chic of perth...you say that everyone needs to be vaccinated

(herd immunity). How do you explain people who get whooping cough,

measles, chicken pox, pneumonia who are fully vaccinated?? These fully

vaccinated people are also spreading diseases to vaccinated and

unvaccinated people. The vaccines dont work as they are desigend to do

100% of the time if at all!!! You can't blame unvaccinated people. The

poor little baby who died from whooping cough, that is absolutely awful,

but unfortunately the whooping cough vaccine is one of the lease

effective of all the vaccines. It is failing. A child isn't safe until it

has had its third shot at 6 months of age and immunity only lasts for 2-5

years. So all our newborns are still very vulnerable to this disease

despite a 90-95% vaccination rate in Australia.

Comment 183 of 226

Rock paper scissors of Perth Posted at 12:17 PM Today

 

Isn't it interesting that doctors are one of the most trusted

professions and journalists are one of the least trusted yet everytime we

read about about a controversial treatment, we take the journalist's

opinion over the doctor's? People are strange.

Comment 184 of 226

Jezza of Perrth Posted at 12:18 PM Today

 

Bird Flu. Chinese Bird Flu. Swine Flu. Nothing sells like fear all

these flus are avian. Why are we susceptible to Bird flus is it because

we are vaccinated with Putrid diseases bred on chiken eggs? CSL you are

answerable

Comment 185 of 226

Kingseat of Perth Posted at 12:21 PM Today

 

My son was due his jab today. Drs telephoned at 8.30 to state that

the appointment was cancelled. It took me weeks to decided if he should

have the jab (he's 2) and make the appointment. I doubt very much if he

will be having it now. No way.

Comment 186 of 226

Belinda Lukatelich Posted at 12:21 PM Today

 

There is always a risk involved in taking a flu jab or taking any

kind of medicine. There is a risk involved just leaving your house every

day. It's always a case of weighint up the benefits and risks and making

a decision about anything in life that involves risk.

Comment 187 of 226

Dule of Hillarys Posted at 12:21 PM Today

 

Lot of 'armchair experts' advocating that you should do your own

research, but nothing indicating how. Let me join the experts but

actually give some links that might help educate. Firstly, we cant use

anecdotal evidence to make our judgements. This is a good site for some

info written by mostly MD's.

 

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?cat=36 The other points I want

to make is about the number of logical fallacies and breakdown of

critical thinking im seeing here.

 

http://www.theskepticsguide.org/resources/logicalfallacies.aspx PS.

im not claiming to be perfect or to have any better insight than anyone

else, but just wanted to point out some information that might help you

filter out whats crap and whats not. Thanks

Comment 188 of 226

Jezza of Perth Posted at 12:24 PM Today

 

Perth chic of Perth you are the one wo is most ill informed

Comment 189 of 226

EP of Perth Posted at 12:24 PM Today

 

This is of great concern for others! I'm presuming a bad batch. I

must say I had my 6 year old and 14 month immunised and they were fine.

No side effects.

Comment 190 of 226

Who of Perth Posted at 12:24 PM Today

 

Why are children given the flu shot?, I thought it was only

recommended to the old and people with health problems.

Comment 191 of 226

Dad of 4 of Sickville Posted at 12:25 PM Today

 

At JS, comment 91, about lawyers and car sales. Unless you are going

to comment in an informed way either for or against about this issue your

post is both un-welcome and pathetic. You are nothing but a smug

profiteering leech that cares only how this situation benefits you. The

welfare of our kids is of no concern to you obviously. Hopefully Karma is

heading your way, and also heading down to those ambulance chasing

lawyers in a big way.

Comment 192 of 226

Val Posted at 12:31 PM Today

 

I wonder if it just the flu vac, my daughter had a temp of 40 just 6

hours after getting her 4 month needles .... but the next day she was

fine. Hopefully it is resolved soon as vaccinations are better than

getting the real thing.

Comment 193 of 226

annie Posted at 12:34 PM Today

 

my 3 year old had a fever and developed flu like symptoms within

hours of the vaccine...yeah, hope they can look into it, to many lives at

risk.

Comment 194 of 226

Proud mother of 2 Posted at 12:42 PM Today

 

Both my children (1 and 2) were immunised with the flu vac yesterday.

My 1yo developed a high fever but was fine after panadol. A little bit

unsettled but nothing of concern. It is a known side effect that your

child may develop high temperates after immunisations and it is a risk

I'm prepared to take. My children will get the flu vac again next year.

We are hearing all about the kids with the high temps which is sad and

stressful for parents, especially those in hospital, but how many had

mild or no side effects. My 2yo was completely fine. Wouldn't even know

he had one.

Comment 195 of 226

F Posted at 12:48 PM Today

 

" The other fact is it has also caused many healthy children to

develop Autism and other brain disorders like ADD ADHD. " THERE IS NO

CONNECTION BETWEEN VACCINATIONS AND AUTISM. This has been gone over many

times in the past few years; scientific research bodies have investigated

it. They removed the chemical people claimed caused autism. It still was

found in kids. The simple fact is that we are better at determining

autism in kids than in the past so we find more cases of it. It's even

argued we may be overdiagnosing autism in general. Some parents even

claim that post-vaccine, their kids were found to be autistic; but if

they weren't tested for autism *before* the vaccine, you can say there is

a cause and effect.

Comment 196 of 226

Worried Posted at 1:08 PM Today

 

Pox comment 136 you are a complete idiot...the poor baby in PMH is in

critical condition and has brain damage, do you think that's a side

effect of immunisation...I think the parents would rather she had the flu

than what is happening to her right now. Have some sensitivity and

compassion for the parents whose kids have suffered due to this

vaccine...there is nothing more scary having a sick child. Thank

you!

Comment 197 of 226

J.M. of Perth Posted at 1:09 PM Today

 

Thanks to Google Scholar and other means by which people can read

published medical papers firsthand, there's no need to rely on sites from

either " side. " SBM (as mentioned in comment 178) is hardly

bias-free. People need to do their own research and form their own

conclusions. Most cities also have university libraries (including

medical libraries) and you can access the materials there. As for comment

153, the pertussis vaccine does not prevent transmission. Even the CDC

knows this...http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol6no5/pdf/srugo.pdf My fully

vaccinated and up-to-date with boosters husband brought pertussis home to

our unvaxed kids. They've all recovered just fine. But don't rely on the

pertussis vaccine for protection from carriage of the bacteria.

Comment 198 of 226

Proudtobeaperthnowredneck of Fremantle Posted at 1:22 PM Today

 

NEWSFLASH: Unconfirmed reports kids with high temps walking round the

streets of perth moaning n groaning some kids have attack grown

adults...the batch of flu vacinne was some crazy govt experiment...now we

have ZOMBIE KIDS

Comment 199 of 226

Vaccine Injured Posted at 1:29 PM Today

 

Majority of the People, when are you going to learn to educate

yourself and do your OWN research before you vaccinate? This is not just

applicable to childhood vaccinations... Thought it was a " free "

vaccine? Did you know: The children in WA who got the free seasonal flu

vaccine were part of a study paid for by the vaccine manufacturers. In

other words - guinee pigs... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - I URGE YOU...

INVESTIGATE BEFORE YOU VACCINATE!!! Google, read books, visit Australian

Vaccination Network Website and Dr Mercola Website etc. - whatever it

takes... it's your health - and remember Big Pharma is in business to

make money... nothing else.

Comment 200 of 226

blaz Posted at 1:31 PM Today

 

It's because the swine flu vaccine was added to the flu shot this

year. Why dont you mention that Perth Now? Is it the swine flu vaccine ad

below the story? The swine flu vaccine was rushed, swine flu wasnt

dangerous and it came right during the GFC which means it amounted to a

multi billion dollar bailout of the poor pharma companies - if they

werent responsible for the swine flu in the first place.

Comment 201 of 226

Dianne of PERTH Posted at 1:34 PM Today

 

TAKE OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT DO YOUR own RESEARCH ON THIS IT WORKS

WONDERS

Comment 202 of 226

Kelli of Caversham Posted at 1:41 PM Today

 

My daugher who is 3 had the injection on Tuesday morning after

waiting a month to get an appointment at our local medical centre. That

night she had a temperature and vomited everywhere in her bed. The next

day she was still not right and was very tired and not hungry. She will

not getting any more flu shots if this is what the side effects

are.

Comment 203 of 226

Bejf Posted at 1:42 PM Today

 

comment 156 Father of Three " (parent) who has acted responsibly

to protect them from some of the most horrific diseases known to

man. " so when someone crazy in 50 years time releases smallpox back

into the world, and people die left, right and centre because no one has

a natural immunity, its ok because the original vaccine prevented people

from contracting it? there are not as many pro's as the medical

profession in australia leads the general public to believe

Comment 204 of 226

Natalie of Kingsley of Kingsley Posted at 1:45 PM Today

 

I had my 18 month old (very healthy and happy boy) vaccinated on

Tuesday 1pm and by 6pm that evening he was limp and pale and then the

temperure started along with severe vomitting. This lasted all night and

thank god for Health Direct and our common sense to try and get the temp

down as fast as we could. It is now Friday and my little boy is still not

himself but doing better!!!! What a fright and lets hope the Government

and associated agencies get it together!!!!

Comment 205 of 226

Vicki of Perth Posted at 1:47 PM Today

 

Had my 4 children done, mainly because i have a so called " high

risk " asthamtic child. All ok. However 9 month old was restless for

2 days - a big query hanging over me now to complete the final dose for

the baby!

Comment 206 of 226

Bejf Posted at 1:52 PM Today

 

one thing gp's do not make you aware of unless you ask, is that a

vaccine is a prevention method. it does not guarentee your child will not

get the disease. i was fully vaccinated, and was one of the unfortunate

children to get whopping cough when i was 7, a few years after the

vaccine.

Comment 207 of 226

Tim of Perth Posted at 1:56 PM Today

 

It's all Colin Barnett's fault. He should have signed up to the

federal health plan and Kevin would have swooped in and saved all the

children!

Comment 208 of 226

LB Posted at 1:59 PM Today

 

My Daughter (she's 2) had the flu jab 3pm yesterday afternoon,

luckily she did not suffer any side effects. My doctor must not have been

aware of the health warning. If I had known I would not have given her

the flu jab and I definately won't be giving it to my 5 month old and

doubt that they will be getting it in the future. How do you get a bad

batch anyway?

Comment 209 of 226

pawsforthought of Glen Forrest Posted at 2:00 PM Today

 

Last year (March 2009) our GP STRONGLY advised us NOT to have the

Swine Flue Vaccine as there were 'un-answered' issues surrounding it ...

This year,(April 2010) NOTHING has changed with the vaccine, but, as

Seniors, if we wish to have the Flue vaccine, we are FORCED to accept the

Swine Flue Vaccine as well, as it is an inseperable part of the flue

vaccine ... is it right that we are held to ransom, or, treated as Guinea

Pigs, by the Government ???

Comment 210 of 226

Well Informed of QLD Posted at 2:01 PM Today

 

Confidence of own immunity well said!!!! The government needs to

better educated parents on vaccination. It upsets me when mothers blame

non-vaccinated children for the reason their own vaccinated kids get

sick. HELlO just because your child is vaccinated doesn't stop them

getting sick, it's supposed to aid in them getting less sick as the

autoimmune response is supposed to kick in. Therefore if my

non-vaccinated child makes your kid sick its not because hes not

vaccinated - PURE LOGIC!! Another logic why is there strong history of

alzhemimers disease, parkinsons disease, arthitis etc, mental health

issues which have been linked to aluminium, mercury, lead. Why are there

so many egg based allergies, perhaps it's the fact they use these to

administer vaccinations??? you think???? Wake up people it's not a

conspiracy theory its fact and logic. Another incommon fact the

meningoccol vaccination that we give our kids here in Australia is not

even for the strain we have here in Australia, it's actually manufactured

overseas and brought into the country. We use too many

chemicals/antibiotics bacteria is becoming immune to it this means more

superviruses with no cure! Do your research!!!!

Comment 211 of 226

Mother of one Posted at 2:03 PM Today

 

To Ryan of Perth - your comment would have to be the most laughable

statement I have read all day. All you parents implying we who vacinate

out kids are bad parents.... do you drive your children anywhere? This is

the single most dangerous activity one does on a day to day basis.... yet

I imagine you're all very happy to do so.

Comment 212 of 226

DAMAN of Melbourne Posted at 2:04 PM Today

 

They can vaccinate my children when they've dragged them from my

cold, dead hands. Wake up people & do some research, vaccinations are

making thousands of cildren and the elderly sick. Do not trust everything

you're told!

Comment 213 of 226

Melanie of Perth Posted at 2:09 PM Today

 

My husband and I took our 2 year old son and ourselves off to get

vaccinated last weekend, as we do every year, without any problems or

side effects. This time our son experienced a high temperature about 6

hours afterwards then vomiting at about the 12 hour mark. Fortunately he

was better the next day. I hope that there is light shed as to why so

many people have experienced horrible side effects in this years release.

 

Comment 214 of 226

mummyto2 Posted at 2:17 PM Today

 

my kids had it 2 weeks ago - 4 & 7 and had absolutely no reaction

to it. I wonder if some batches are dodgy or very young children 2 &

under are more vulernable to having a reaction? The only thing I am

really annoyed about is I asked my GP if there were any reactions to this

flu vaccine before they got it (she said it would be a good idea to get

it) and she said no as it is not a live vaccine. Well, that obviously

wasn't true! I am glad my kids had no reaction to it....and I also wish

she had been better informed!

Comment 215 of 226

MomofToddlerNOR Posted at 2:18 PM Today

 

Comment 192 Tim of Perth. Well done at last someone who sees Mr Rudd

for what he is. A Fake who is all gloss and no substance.

Comment 216 of 226

Ryan (SOR) of South of River Posted at 2:20 PM Today

 

My two boy's 4 year old & a 20 month old both had their shot's

yesterday at 1pm. Both had slight fevers last night but today they are

destroying the house as usual ;)

Comment 217 of 226

Ron of Brisbane Posted at 2:22 PM Today

 

I got it at work. I'm 25 and I felt really sick 6 hrs after taking

it. 8 hrs later my temperature went to 39.2 C! There is something wrong

with this vaccination.

Comment 218 of 226

Barb of Secret Harbour Posted at 2:29 PM Today

 

BEJF comment 21, well said. Education sources are indeed

essential.

Comment 219 of 226

Hillarys Mum Posted at 2:38 PM Today

 

My three children aged 4, 6 & 8 had the vaccine almost a month

ago. They had no reaction, however now I am worried if it will be

effective...I hope there is no adverse reactions for them over the

following months. I'm glad there has been a quick response to the

problem.

Comment 220 of 226

Kellie Mum of 5 of NOR Posted at 2:40 PM Today

 

Why do we seem so keen to use our children as human guinea pigs for

pharmaceutical companies??? Its all about money, not our kids health. The

flu strain changes every season, so how can they vaccinate you for a

strain they don't even know about....these are our precious

children...think about it, before you get them jabbed! There is more than

meets the eye!!

Comment 221 of 226

FB of Perth Posted at 2:47 PM Today

 

Hope and pray all the children get well. My doctor offered me a free

shot last time I was there. I declined on the grounds there was not

enough information out there on the new vaccine. Would rather take my

chances with the flu. When millions and millions of doses are being made

there is too much room for human error.

Comment 222 of 226

this little piggie... of perth Posted at 2:48 PM Today

 

for the past 8 years, my now 18 yr old and myself have had the

fluvax, and my 4 yr old has had it for the past 2 years with no problems

also. normally we have had the vaccination by the end of March but this

year we still haven't had it and now will definitely not be having it. my

main concern initially was the inclusion of the swine flu vaccine with

the regular fluvax. last year during the swine flu epidemic i spoke to

several health workers and they said they personally would not have the

swine flu vaccine due to the short testing times and the lack of further

information. on these personal opinion i have decided to to have the

fluvax/swine flu vaccone this year. if the fluvax was available on its

own they YES i would be there with bells on.

Comment 223 of 226

Paul Posted at 3:08 PM Today

 

I wonder if it had anything to do with the blackouts we

had...

Comment 224 of 226

Perth Mum of Perth Posted at 3:09 PM Today

 

A co-worker took her two children to be vaccinated recently and was

told by her doctor that due to the storm in Perth and the subsequent

power failures, they would not give the vaccination, as the vaccine may

have been compromised (it is supposed to be kept at a particular

temperature in the fridge). They suggested she come back when they have

new stocks. Worth investigating, I think!

Comment 225 of 226

M Posted at 3:11 PM Today

 

Vaccinate or don't vaccinate. There are good reasons for both and

what ever your reasons are for doing either there is nothing gained from

telling someone I told u so? As a parent you just can't explain the

feeling you get when your watching you little child suffering from

something you decided to do. The issue here is that the Govt new about

this for weeks before acting and now must be made to pay! We need a royal

commission to uncover the facts behind this decission.

 

Meryl Dorey

meryl

Australian Vaccination Network

Living Wisdom magazine

Investigate before you vaccinate

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