MMS......dangerous?

December 6, 2009

I just came across this re: MMS:Betsy********************************Thought 'I' d do some checking and here's what turned up

....Rose

This listing is for the sale of real "miracle minerals" - instead of the extremely harmfull MMS.

"MMS Miracle Mineral SolutionMMS Miracle Mineral SolutionMMS Miracle Mineral Solution is the most horrific fraud pulled on the alternative health community by Multi Level Marketeers since they were selling bottles of irradiated water claiming that would cure all disease." MMS Miracle Mineral Solution is EXACTLY the same CHLORINE They put in Swimming Pools and Water Treatment MMS IS CHLORINE! Alarms should go off when you read on the MMS sales sites that "it is used to clean swimming pools and in water treatment facilities" (maybe they will remove that part now?), while swearing it isn't exactly the same as chlorine - explaining its sodium chlorite. What is sodium chlorite? Chlorine. He claims it converts to chlorine dioxide if you mix it with citric acid? What is chlorine dioxide? Chlorine. CHLORINE DIOXIDE IS ONE THE GREATEST OF ALL HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL DANGERS! IT IS A DEADLY TOXIN. The sale of MMS / Miracle Mineral Solution as a health product to be consumed is the most horrific fraud pulled on the alternative health community in nearly a hundred years. In fact, tens of millions of people buy bottled water specifically to avoid the sodium chlorite (chlorine). I don't think one person who buys MMS realizes they are pouring in a concentrated chemical that is exactly the chemical they buy bottled water or use a water filter to get rid of But, then, why do SO MANY PEOPLE WRITE TESTIMONIALS and rave on it? Because they sell it. It was made into a multi-level marketing affiliate product. They get from 15% to 50% for selling it. To them it is free money. So they post all over the Internet how great it, acting like they were someone whose life it saves and about every imaginable like and fake study they can make up - for money. EVERY TESTIMONIAL YOU READ ONLINE IS A LIE. A FAKE. All the paid for sponsored "is it a fake" pages - are paid sponsored advertisers. There has NEVER been ANY study done showing that sodium chlorite is beneficial. There is massive documentation that it is extremely harmful. The top-of-the-pyramid seller/maker, "Jim", isn't telling the truth about it - or himself. It is a bottle of a horrible known toxic chemical - but cheap to buy - that believed if consumed in extremely low concentration (like in a swimming pool or water from a city water treatment plant - won't hurt you too much. They use in to treat water and swimming pools because it's cheap. They can buy it by the truck load - cheap. Cheap chlorine. Sodium chloride to be exact. "Jim" does the ultimate P.T. Barnum trick ("there is a sucker born every minute") selling people cheap and health damaging swimming pool chemicals for you to drink - at a price that equates to hundreds of dollars a gallon, when in bulk it cost less than a penny a gallon (again, why cities use it to treat water and swimming pools.) He has to be laughing his head off! The known oxidizer for blood is hydrogen peroxide, not chlorine. I will contrast the difference between hydrogen peroxide ("The One Minute Cure") and sodium chlorite / chlorine ("Miracle Mineral Solution"). It is literally the difference between life and death!I am posting this to explain the difference and to expose "Brother Jim" and his "Miracle Mineral Solution." Maybe I can save a life or two by doing so. It is unthinkable to think there may be parents that are giving their children glass fulls of concentrated pool chemicals because they believe it good for their health! Here is the history of the MMS Miracle Mineral Solution (this is interesting and explains it all): It begins with old fella who is a Walter Mitty personality (means fantasizes of doing great things and tells people the fantasy is true - ultimately over years coming to believe it himself). On his video (staged by the Multi Level Marketing Company to look like they're in Africa even wearing safari hats) "Jim Humble" fantasizes of his make-believe past as if real. He tells how NASA couldn't fix the moon rover and had to call him in, that he invented the vacuum tube computer, he invented the electric garage door opener and he designed the first InterContinental Ballistic missile. From that, he explains his rationale behind his MMS. First, he notes that sodium chlorite / chlorine dioxide (chlorine - commonly called bleach) is used in swimming pools and many urban water treatment facilities. Therefore obviously it is safe. (Actually the main reason people drink bottled water or use water filters to avoid the chlorine.) Second, he points out that bleach /chlorine will kill germs and that even restaurants are allowed to use chlorine to clean up counter tops and kitchen equipment.THEREFORE, to his mind, those two facts prove that if a person consumes concentrated chlorine it is safe and will kill every disease in the body. There it is, that is the "science" behind MMS. BUT ALONG COMES A MULTI LEVEL MARKETING COMPANY. They understand the P.T. Barnum concept of "a sucker born every minute." Their goal is to find something, anything, NEW so there is no competition. Then all they have to do is make a video and have their affiliate sales force put up hundreds of websites of fake testimonials swamping the Internet with the new miracle cure. It couldn't possibly be not true with hundreds of people and hundreds of professional looking websites promoting it, no? So, astonishingly, they are making millions of dollars having people drinking basically concentrated chlorinated swimming pool water. THAT IS THE WHOLE MMS Miracle Mineral Solution story: It is chlorine. It is exactly, 100% the chlorine people put in swimming pools. It is more than a scam. Scams take people's money but don't literally hurt them. But this is an assault. Chlorine Dioxide is one of the most dangerous chemicals a person can consume. To tell people to give concentrated chlorine to their children and to tell cancer patients to give up all treatments (alternative or conventional) to instead drink bleach / chlorine because it "will cure cancer" is a crime. Literally, it is a crime.

Comparing hydrogen peroxide to "MMS." First, a comparison. What authority supports MMS Miracle Mineral Solution? Only Jim Humble. He not only refuses to give any resume or credentials of himself, he openly opposes any testing of his MMS. Who supports hydrogen peroxide oxygenation therapy? Too many experts to name such as a twice Nobel prize laureate biochemist, over 30,000 doctors and health practitioners, and dozens of formal studies.

The One-Minute-Cure by Madison Cavanaugh, Dr. Rowen's Second Opinion Newsletter. The benefits of 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide has been presented by such authorities as Dr. David G. Williams in The Many Benefits of Hydrogen Peroxide, authoritative books including Hydrogen Peroxide: Medical Miracle by William Campbell Douglass II, Flood Your Body with Oxygen by Ed Mccabe, Hydrogen Peroxide & Ozone by Conrad LeBeau, and biochemist and two time Nobel Laurate Otto Warburg in The Prime Cause and Prevention of Cancer. Such known health rights advocates as Kevin Trudeau.

Dr. Donsbach, a world known doctor because of his high success rates with curing cancer. Dr. Sheldon Hendler, MD, Medical Researcher Cell Oxygenation, Author "The Oxygen Breakthrough. " Stephen Levine, a respected molecular biologist and geneticist, and Dr. Paris M. Kidd, Ph.D., Antioxidant Adaptation."Conscious Breathing," by Gay Hendricks, Ph.D. )Antioxidants Made Simple" by Dr. Bruce B. Miller. Anders Engdahl and Bengt Nelander,

Chemical Physics, Chemical Center University of Lund, P.O. Box 124, S-22100, Lund, Sweden. Suparno Chaudhuri, Sharmila Sengupta , Nitai P Bhattacharyya and Nukhendu B. BhattacharjeeCrystallography and Molecular Biology Division, Saha Institute of Nuclear Physics 1/AF Bldhan Nagar, Calcutta 700 064, India... to mention a few.

(I could put PAGES of chemists, medical doctors, biologists, geneticists, biochemists, searchers from around the world on the benefits of hydrogen peroxide therapy)

Jim Humble literally put up a website saying all those are 100% wrong because he figured it out all by himself - and urging nobody research his claims because it's "an underground movement."(his words)

He says he reasoned out that since people put chlorine in swimming pools and because chlorine kills germs, if you drink chlorine it will kill every disease and ailment every known.

Therefore, he claims that if you drink sodium chlorite and chloride dioxide - swimming pool chlorine) you buy from him in concentrated liquid form and you will be cured of every disease.

That junk never would have gone anywhere, but the MLM Company picked it up and splashed it all over the Internet and forums with fake testimonials, gibberish science and all the other P.T. Barnum sales pitch. COMPARING CHLORINE DIOXIDE AND HYDROGEN PEROXIDE

Hydrogen peroxide is h2o2, which is water with an extra oxygen molecule that will release within organic substances. Water and oxygen are not lethal. Water and oxygen instead are essential for human life. Chlorine dioxide decomposes to making chlorine gas. So lethal, chlorine gas was used as a chemical weapon in WWI. MMS releases chlorine gas into your body and blood stream. This is intensely and accumulatively destructive to the human body. Hydrogen peroxide is not toxic in. Hydrogen peroxide consists only of two atoms of hydrogen and two atoms of oxygen - it is not toxin in any sense. To be exact, "MMS" is chlorine in the form of sodium chlorite (sodium means salt) - so it is a chloride salt (like you have cyanide salt as one of the different forms of cyanide - one of the most deadly poisons known). He claims that citric acid converts it to chlorine dioxide - the same chlorine they use in urban water treatment facilities and as bleach in manufacturing. Not even the companies that make chlorine for pools or water treatment claim it's good for you. Instead, they claim if the concentration is low enough it won't hurt you too much - and swimming pool chemical companies (same chemical) NEVER urge people to drink the water. "Jim" claims three things in his 1 hour+ plus long video put together by a Multi Level Marketing Company (wearing safari hats after showing Cheetahs to make it look like they're in Africa! Well executed theater by the MML marketing company): First, he claims that he found a way to concentrated it 1000 times. That is totally false, probably why he doesn't document it - like he doesn't document anything. Specifically, if chlorine dioxide reaches over 15% concentration, it explodes! Literally. For nearly 100 years you could buy concentrated chlorine or sodium chlorite from any chemical distributer. Cheap. Real cheap. I guess if you are going to sell a toxic chemical as your exclusively discovered cure to ever disease you would pick a really cheap chemical readily available to package. Hey, why not buy 5 gallon pail of pool chemical down at the pool supply store? And that, folks, is MMS, Miracle Mineral Solution. Water treatment facilities and swimming pool owners have been buying maximum concentration sodium chlorite and chlorine dioxide so for decades. The only limitation on concentration is that once it reaches too high a concentration it explodes. So concentration could not have been increased by the author decades later because have been available at the maximum non-explosive concentration for decades. Second, "Jim" claims that it is a power agent to kill germs. That is true. It is also true it can kill you - or anything. Sodium chlorite and chlorine dioxide will KILL EVERYTHING. There is no form of known life you cannot kill with chlorine. Does a chemical that will KILL EVERYTHING sound like something you want to drink? That is why they use it in water treatment facilities. It is a VERY cheap chemical that will kill germs - because it will kill anything and everything if high enough in concentration. So much so it was used to kill armies as a chemical weapon in WWI. Water facilities and swimming pools use a very low concentration so it doesn't kill you. (Or at least not quickly). But isn't that why you drink bottled water or have a water filter - so you DON'T DRINK THE CHLORINE!? Third, he claims it is safe and can't hurt you. Is he a chemist? No. Does he have a laboratory that he makes "safe" chlorine in? No. (No such thing as safe chlorine).Does he document anything? No. Has he ever produced one person he's cured of anything? No. In fact, sodium chloride is a deadly chemical that can destroy every organ in your body and it most definitely can kill you - because chlorine can kill anything. It can do it slowly over years if you use a little, or really fast if you consume a lot. So when you buy MMS/Miracle Mineral Solution, you should first decide whether you want to die really fast or very slowly over years. One of the most humorous things on his over 1 hour long video is his explaining why he wants NO research done on it. He says if that's done, then the FDA will learn about his "underground" movement. The FDA isn't fond of hydrogen peroxide either, but there are vast studies that have been done. What "underground movement" hidden from the FDA? Jim himself buys as sponsored search for his advertisements on all search engines. His affiliate sales people have gobs of paid searches on all search engines. There is no "underground movement." You don't pay Google, MSN, and thousands and thousands of dollars for paid advertising your product when you'd hiding it product in some underground movement! Vast numbers of products the FDA doesn't approve of are researched and their advocates calling for more research. But Jim doesn't want any research done by any lab, any chemist, or any other actually qualified organization so his underground movement can keep his product unknown to the FDA? Absurd. The promotion of sodium chlorite as a health product - putting the word "miracle" to it - is similar to how many decades ago a con artist was advertising in magazines for people to buy radioactive water as the miracle cure to all diseases. And his sales force told stories (lies) like Jim's affiliate sellers do of all the people cured of everything from cancer to the common cold. Even snoring. In fact, radiation causes cancers of all kinds. People bought it anyway. Died terrible cancer deaths. Chlorine causes every manner of disease, physical and mental destruction. But people are buying it anyway because it, too, is called a "miracle" cure and has an affiliate sales force posting websites, even paid sponsored ones (like this one) claiming to tell their personal story of how it cure them - of course showing you where to click to buy it from him. Pretty green color made to look like a blog - saying "Some people say MMS is a fraud. you'll have to decide - But let me tell you my story and how it helped me and my wife." (Follow the blog links and they take you to how you can get rich selling affiliate products like MMS - maybe that website just came down and he put up another one...) Or how it cured Susan B in Denver of cancer, how Tom J in California was cured of herpes and Cindy D in Orlando cured of Alzheimer's - all with swimming pool sodium chlorite in the MMS Miracle Mineral Solution - Telling you then how to buy it off a link from the website. Then the person gets $10 or $20 or $50, depending how much you buy. "There's a sucker born every minute," P.T. Barnum. It is absolutely amazing to think that people who probably filter their water or buy bottled water to avoid the water treatment chemicals - mostly to avoid the chlorine - are being talked into buying a product called a health miracle product - which has them putting teaspoons of chlorine into water specifically to drink an extremely high concentration the urban water treatment chemical they are spending money on bottled water or filters to avoid! If you really believe drinking chlorine is good for you, rather than buying "MMS" you could just go drink some water out of community swimming pool or go down to the pool supply shop. Experts, authors, doctors, researchers, studies, even a two time Nobel laureate biochemist have presented the oxygenating benefits of hydrogen peroxide. None, zero, no one legitimate, claim that consuming sodium chloride is good for you because it is extremely destructive to health. Only Jim and his affiliate program sales people do. About the author of MMS, the miracle mineral solution:Jim reportedly claims many things about himself as a brilliant inventor. He supposedly claims he worked on the moon vehicle, invented the electric garage door opener, invented the first intercontinental ballistic missile and that he wrote the manuals for the first vacuum tube computers. Jim claims many things. He claims he went to Africa to help poor people with malaria and if you buy his "MMS" you will help that cause. Actually the money goes into his pocket - here in the USA. (Latest word is that he's now hiding in Mexico). What is not mentioned is that he had problems the Ministry of Health of that Africa country and he's not in Africa. He's not a charity. MORE ABOUT "MMS" Miracle Mineral Solution Chlorine dioxide is well established as harmful to all forms of life. It is ranked in the USA as one of the most hazardous compounds to life and the worst for harm to the eco-system. "Jim Humble" (don't you love that name he uses) claims to have run tests, none of which he will publish and insisting he doesn't want anyone else to test it either. He claims to have cured people in Africa in a clinic, none of them can be found, and reportedly nobody has heard of him in the clinic that he claimed to have done this. He's not a chemist. Not a doctor. Not a health practitioner. He's an old Walter Mitty than an MLM company picked up to make millions selling a gibberish books of how you should drink one of the most deadly chemical as a health supplement claiming it a "miracle" discovery. The only reason anyone heard of MMS Miracle Mineral Solution is because a Multi Level Marketing company saw opportunity, made the video and the splashed it all over the Internet via their affiliate sales force - with HUNDREDS of websites of raving (fake) testimonials as if drinking swimming pool CHLORINE was the miracle cure of all time! Why? Because it is something new and MML companies know that NEW can sell (because they think people are stupid and can be talked into buying anything new if you tell enough lies about it.) What we do know about Jim is that what he is selling as a HEALTH SUPPLEMENT (OUTRAGEOUS! ) is used for bleaching wood pulp, it is used to clean swimming pools, and it is not safe for ingestion. Incredibly, because your body attempts to get rid of poisons, they warn you that it could cause nausea or vomiting. THEY CLAIM THE NASUEA AND VOMITING PROVES IT WORKS! AND PEOPLE BUY THAT!! The reason MMS makes you nauseous and vomit because you just swallowed an extremely toxic (and corrosive) chemical and your body is trying to get rid of it! The herx effect (medical talk offered as proof by his affiliate sales force) that people selling his stuff as a multi-level marketing affiliate product claim is not a herx effect at all, it is the result of poisoning. A true herx effect can flu like symptoms, not immediate nausea and vomiting. The list of dangers such as long term damage to the liver, thyroid and spleen damage is quite long. Since it is transported in red blood cells, spleen damage is high on the early damage list - and worse. THIS IS WHAT MMS MIRACLE MINERAL SOLUTION REALLY DOES TO YOUR BODY - Causes cancer, infertility, birth defects, kidney damage, lung damage, liver damage, bladder, colon and colon cancer, stomach damage and stomach cancer, brain damage, corrodes blood vessels, causes heart attack and stroke - to name some of the horrific health damage that MMS Miracle Mineral Solution / Supplement will cause. Known Chlorine / Sodium Chlorite / Chloride Dioxide Dangers: * Chlorine combines with natural organic matter decaying vegetation to form potent cancer causing trihalomethanes (THM's)* Collectively those compounds that chlorine / sodium chlorite combines with to make include such carcinogens as chloroforms, bromoforms carbon tectachloride, bischlorothane and other cancer causing agents* The level of chlorine in swimming pools is over 1,000% the level deemed minimally safe by the EPA in water. (Jim Humble says, instead, buy his product and swallow many times higher concentration than in swimming pools. You just couldn't possible drink as much swimming pool chlorine as his product a 1000 times more concentrated version of the identical chlorine swimming pool chemical.)* Causes atherosclerosis, stroke and heart attack* Causes skin to prematurely age* Damages the human eye * Causes bladder, breast, testicular, bladder, colon, or rectal and bowel cancer as well as malignant melanoma* Damages lung tissue * Causes acne, psoriasis, seborrhea and eczema* Converts to dioxins - the most dangerous of cancer causing chemicals and which build up permanently within a person's body causes infertility and birth defects* Damages the nervous system permanently Chlorine dioxide is well established to be harmful to all forms of life. It also is ranked in the USA as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to ecosystems. "Chlorine is so dangerous" according to PhD biologist/chemist Dr. Herbert Schwartz," that it should be banned. Putting chlorine in water is like starting a time bomb. Cancer, heart trouble, premature senility, both mental and physical are conditions attributable to chlorine treated water supplies. It is making us grow old before our time by producing symptoms of aging such as hardening of the arteries."Dr. Stephen Askin wrote: "The real issue is not just how toxic chlorine itself is but how the unintended by-products of chlorine (organochlorines and dioxins) remain in the environment. They are persistent in the environment; they do not break down readily and therefore bio-accumulate. This can create a very serious health problem; the dioxins and other toxic chemicals accumulate in the fatty tissues. These contaminants are also hormone disrupters because they mimic estrogen. The EPA has observed and documented hormonal imbalance, suppressed immune systems, reproductive infertility and alterations in fetal development of animals. In viewing the big picture, these factors are perhaps the most frightening results from the widespread use of chlorine."In Super Nutrition for Healthy Hearts Dr Richard Passwater shows how "the origin of heart disease is akin to the origin of cancer" Chlorination could very well be a key factor linking these two major diseases. Chlorine creates THM's and haloforms. These potent chemical pollutants can trigger the production of excess free radicals in our bodies. Free radicals cause cell damage. Excess free radicals can cause normal smooth muscle cells in the arterial wall to go haywire, to mutate. The fibrous plaque consequently formed is essentially a benign tumor. Unfortunately, this tumor is linked with the origin of heart disease." Sodium chlorite / chlorine dioxide are a deadly chemicals. If you don't take too much the destruction to your health will only be very gradual across years. That warning is missing on the MMS Miracle Mineral Solution label. Of course Jim says don't listen to any of those doctors, researchers, biochemists, environmental experts or chemical company manufacturer warnings. Because only Jim knows the real truth about chlorine. Jim says buy his pool chemical product and he promises you'll be cured of every disease cancer! (Literally he is in on video promising that. Maybe that is why the latest talk is he's hiding out in Mexico now?). Who the hell is Jim anyway? He the same Jim that also claims to have invented the computer, designed the moon rover because NASA couldn't, designed the InterContinental Ballistic Missile AND - best of all - designed the electric garage door opener?! And it is same Jim who came up with the ideal of drinking concentrated pool chemicals that you buy from him for your health. WHO NEEDS TO GO DOWN (civil and criminal) is the MLM sellers. (And that's going to happen - this has crossed all lines of civil and criminal illegality). Still want to buy MMS? Still believe the hype and fake testimonials and fake studies of his affiliate sales force? (I mean, my God folks, its chlorine!) If you already have it, it's not a TOTAL waste. Just don't use it anymore and put it to work at what it does well. It would work really well at killing mesquite eggs in standing water in old tires or other stagnant water around your place. Dump it in that water and watch the mesquites (and everything else) DIE. That would be its best use and then it could actually do something good. IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO BLOOD OXYDATION AND A NON-TOXIC INTERNAL BIOCIDE, THE CHEMICAL FOR THIS IS HYDROGEN PEROXIDE. It is 2 atoms of hydrogen and two atoms of oxygen (h2o2). In the blood it will decompose producing only pure water (h2o) and pure oxygen (o). Hydrogen, water and oxygen all are non-toxic. The best info source on hydrogen peroxide therapy currently is The One Minute Cure. Or there are many free websites on the topic online. If you are looking for a hydrogen peroxide product that also really is a mineral supplement, Guardian of Eden has the best there is at www.jutrianrx. com. It also lists authorities on the topic of oxidation with hydrogen peroxide including a two time Nobel laureate. (BTW, what IS the educational background and employment history of Jim?) Other companies that sell just concentrated food grade hydrogen peroxide include: www.TrinityNutraLab .com www.dfwx.com/ h2o2.htm www.cole-palmer. com

www.purehh2o2forhea lth.com/minerals .htm Whether you want to explore oxygenation in a source of internal biocide therapy is your decision. BUT DON'T DRINK CHLORINE DIOXIDE and Sodium chlorite! Not since selling bottles of irradiated water has a more evil product been sold on the health products market than MMS Miracle Mineral Solution- and there's a lot of junk the Multi Level Marketeers are flooding the Internet with fake testimonials, massive affiliate sales force website blitzes. It just about finding any way, saying anything, to get money from your pocket to their pockets. This listing is for a hydrogen peroxide product so this can be on eBay. Fully understanding what MMS Miracle Mineral Solution is - That the MLM company is having affiliates advertise that people should abandon all alternative health products, all alternative health practitioners and all prescription medication to instead be guaranteed a cure of any disease if they buy their affiliate product - AND are telling people to give sodium chlorite / chlorine dioxide even to their little children - There is an ethical duty to warn of the extreme body destruction it causes. You should too.

ADDED INFO - research on MMS in the EU:

Toxicity in humansDue to its oxidative nature, sodium chlorate can be very toxic if ingested. The oxidative effect on hemoglobin leads to methaemoglobin formation, which is followed by denaturation of the globin protein and a cross-linking of erythrocyte membrane proteins with resultant damage to the membrane enzymes. This leads to increased permeability of the membrane, and severe hemolysis. The denaturation of hemoglobin overwhelms the capacity of the G6PD metabolic pathway. In addition, this enzyme is directly denatured by chlorate reducing its activity.Therapy with ascorbic acid and methylene blue may be effective. However, since methylene blue requires the presence of NADPH that requires normal functioning of G6PD system, it is less effective than in other conditions characterized by hemoglobin oxidation. Acute severe hemolysis results, with multi-organ failure, including DIC and renal failure.Trade NamesThe active ingredient sodium chlorate is found in a variety of commercial herbicides. Some trade names for products containing sodium chlorate include Atlacide, Defol, De-Fol-Ate, Drop-Leaf, Fall, Harvest-Aid, Kusatol, Leafex, and Tumbleaf. The compound may be used in combination with other herbicides such as atrazine, 2,4-D, bromacil, diuron, and sodium metaborate. In the United Kingdom there are many brands of Sodium Chlorate Weedkillers. Two well known ones are Doff and Wilkinsons. In Italy it is found under the Zapi brand, sold as "Grasskiller Liquid".Withdrawal from MarketSodium chlorate products are to be withdrawn from the market due to an EC decision on the chemical, and its associated hazards.

This listing is for 1 PINT of TrinityNutraLab 17.5% food grade hydrogen peroxide that you can also find on our other eBay listings.