Gold Bars In Fort Knox Are Fake! (OT)

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if you are buying gold as a hedge for the Market crash coming ...... VERIFY you are really getting gold ....... ,Paste the link if you don't receive the images.http://www.viewzone.com/fakegold.htmlFake gold bars! What's next?It's one thing to counterfeit a twenty or hundred dollar bill. The amount of financial damage is usually limited to a specific region and only affects dozens of people and thousands of dollars. Secret Service agents quickly notify the banks on how to recognize these phony bills and retail outlets usually have procedures in place (such as special pens to test the paper) to stop their proliferation. But what about gold? This is the most sacred of all commodities because it is thought to be the most trusted, reliable and valuable means of saving wealth.A recent discovery -- in October of 2009 -- has been suppressed by the main stream media but has been circulating among the "big money" brokers and financial kingpins and is just now being revealed to the public. It involves the gold in Fort Knox -- the US Treasury gold -- that is the equity of our national wealth. In short, millions (with an "m") of gold bars are fake!Who did this? Apparently our own government.BackgroundIn October of 2009 the Chinese received a shipment of gold bars. Gold is regularly exchanges between countries to pay debts and to settle the so-called balance of trade. Most gold is exchanged and stored in vaults under the supervision of a special organization based in London, the London Bullion Market Association (or LBMA). When the shipment was received, the Chinese government asked that special tests be performed to guarantee the purity and weight of the gold bars. In this test, four small holed are drilled into the gold bars and the metal is then analyzed.Officials were shocked to learn that the bars were fake. They contained cores of tungsten with only a outer coating of real gold. What's more, these gold bars, containing serial numbers for tracking, originated in the US and had been stored in Fort Knox for years. There were reportedly between 5,600 to 5,700 bars, weighing 400 oz. each, in the shipment!At first many gold experts assumed the fake gold originated in China, the world's best knock-off producers. The Chinese were quick to investigate and issued a statement that implicated the US in the scheme.What the Chinese uncovered:Roughly 15 years ago -- during the Clinton Administration [think Robert Rubin, Sir Alan Greenspan and Lawrence Summers] -- between 1.3 and 1.5 million 400 oz tungsten blanks were allegedly manufactured by a very high-end, sophisticated refiner in the USA [more than 16 Thousand metric tonnes]. Subsequently, 640,000 of these tungsten blanks received their gold plating and WERE shipped to Ft. Knox and remain there to this day.According to the Chinese investigation, the balance of this 1.3 million to 1.5 million 400 oz tungsten cache was also gold plated and then allegedly "sold" into the international market. Apparently, the global market is literally "stuffed full of 400 oz salted bars". Perhaps as much as 600-billion dollars worth. An obscure news item originally published in the N.Y. Post [written by Jennifer Anderson] in late Jan. 04 perhaps makes sense now.DA investigating NYMEX executive Manhattan, New York, --Feb. 2, 2004. A top executive at the New York Mercantile Exchange is being investigated by the Manhattan district attorney. Sources close to the exchange said that Stuart Smith, senior vice president of operations at the exchange, was served with a search warrant by the district attorney's office last week. Details of the investigation have not been disclosed, but a NYMEX spokeswoman said it was unrelated to any of the exchange's markets. She declined to comment further other than to say that charges had not been brought. A spokeswoman for the Manhattan district attorney's office also declined comment."The offices of the Senior Vice President of Operations -- NYMEX -- is exactly where you would go to find the records [serial number and smelter of origin] for EVERY GOLD BAR ever PHYSICALLY settled on the exchange. They are required to keep these records. These precise records would show the lineage of all the physical gold settled on the exchange and hence "prove" that the amount of gold in question could not have possibly come from the U.S. mining operations -- because the amounts in question coming from U.S. smelters would undoubtedly be vastly bigger than domestic mine production.No one knows whatever happened to Stuart Smith. After his offices were raided he took "administrative leave" from the NYMEX and he has never been heard from since. Amazingly, there never was any follow up on in the media on the original story as well as ZERO developments ever stemming from D.A. Morgenthau’s office who executed the search warrant.Are we to believe that NYMEX offices were raided, the Sr. V.P. of operations then takes leave -- all for nothing?The revelations of fake gold bars also explains another highly unusual story that also happened in 2004:LONDON, April 14, 2004 (Reuters) -- NM Rothschild & Sons Ltd., the London-based unit of investment bank Rothschild [ROT.UL], will withdraw from trading commodities, including gold, in London as it reviews its operations, it said on Wednesday.Interestingly, GATA's Bill Murphy speculated about this back in 2004; "Why is Rothschild leaving the gold business at this time my colleagues and I conjectured today? Just a guess on my part, but suspect something is amiss. They know a big scandal is coming and they don't want to be a part of it... [The] Rothschild wants out before the proverbial "S" hits the fan." -- BILL MURPHY, LEMETROPOLE, 4-18-2004What is the GATA? The Gold Antitrust Action Committee (GATA) is an organisation which has been nipping at the heels of the US Treasury Federal Reserve for several years now. The basis of GATA's accusations is that these institutions, in coordination with other complicit central banks and the large gold-trading investment banks in the US, have been manipulating the price of gold for decades. What is the GLD?GLD is a short form for Good London Delivery. The London Bullion Market Association (LBMA) has defined "good delivery" as a delivery from an entity which is listed on their delivery list or meets the standards for said list and whose bars have passed testing requirements established by the associatin and updated from time to time. The bars have to be pure for AU in an area of 995.0 to 999.9 per 1000. Weight, Shape, Appearance, Marks and Weight Stamps are regulated as follows:Weight: minimum 350 fine ounces AU; maximum 430 fine ounces AU, gross weight of a bar is expressed in troy ounces, in multiples of 0.025, rounded down to the nearest 0.025 of an troy ounce.Dimensions: the recommended dimensions for a Good Delivery gold bar are: Top Surface: 255 x 81 mm; Bottom Surface: 236 x 57 mm; Thickness: 37 mm.Fineness: the minimum 995.0 parts per thousand fine gold. Marks: Serial number; Assay stamp of refiner; Fineness (to four significant figures); Year of manufacture (expressed in four digits).After reviewing their prospectus yet again, it becomes pretty clear that GLD was established to purposefully deflect investment dollars away from legitimate gold pursuits and to create a stealth, cesspool / catch-all, slush-fund and a likely destination for many of these fake tungsten bars where they would never see the light of day -- hidden behind the following legalese "shield" from the law:[Excerpt from the GLD prospectus on page 11] "Gold bars allocated to the Trust in connection with the creation of a Basket may not meet the London Good Delivery Standards and, if a Basket is issued against such gold, the Trust may suffer a loss. Neither the Trustee nor the Custodian independently confirms the fineness of the gold bars allocated to the Trust in connection with the creation of a Basket. The gold bars allocated to the Trust by the Custodian may be different from the reported fineness or weight required by the LBMA’s standards for gold bars delivered in settlement of a gold trade, or the London Good Delivery Standards, the standards required by the Trust. If the Trustee nevertheless issues a Basket against such gold, and if the Custodian fails to satisfy its obligation to credit the Trust the amount of any deficiency, the Trust may suffer a loss."The Federal Reserve knows but is apparently part of the schemeEarlier this year GATA filed a second Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the Federal Reserve System for documents from 1990 to date having to do with gold swaps, gold swapped, or proposed gold swaps.On Aug. 5, The Federal Reserve responded to this FOIA request by adding two more documents to those disclosed to GATA in April 2008 from the earlier FOIA request. These documents totaled 173 pages, many parts of which were redacted (blacked out). The Fed's response also noted that there were 137 pages of documents not disclosed that were alleged to be exempt from disclosure.GATA appealed this determination on Aug. 20. The appeal asked for more information to substantiate the legitimacy of the claimed exemptions from disclosure and an explanation on why some documents, such as one posted on the Federal Reserve Web site that discusses gold swaps, were not included in the Aug. 5 document release.In a Sept. 17, 2009, letter on Federal Reserve System letterhead, Federal Reserve governor Kevin M. Warsh completely denied GATA's appeal. The entire text of this letter can be examined at http://www.gata.orgGATAFedResponse-09-17-2009.pdf.The first paragraph on the third page is the most revealing."In connection with your appeal, I have confirmed that the information withheld under exemption 4 consists of confidential commercial or financial information relating to the operations of the Federal Reserve Banks that was obtained within the meaning of exemption 4. This includes information relating to swap arrangements with foreign banks on behalf of the Federal Reserve System and is not the type of information that is customarily disclosed to the public. This information was properly withheld from you."The above statement is an admission that the Federal Reserve has been involved with the fake gold bar swaps and that it refuses to disclose any information about its activities!Why use tungsten?If you are going to print fake money you need to have the special paper, otherwise the bills don't feel right and can be easily detected by special pens that most merchants and banks use. Likewise, if you are going to fake gold bars you had better be sure they have the same weight and properties of real gold.In early 2008 millions of dollars in gold at the central bank of Ethiopia turned out to be fake. What were supposed to be bars of solid gold turned out to be nothing more than gold-plated steel. They tried to sell the stuff to South Africa and it was sent back when the South Africans noticed this little problem.The problem with making good-quality fake gold is that gold is remarkably dense. It's almost twice the density of lead, and two-and-a-half times more dense than steel. You don't usually notice this because small gold rings and the like don't weigh enough to make it obvious, but if you've ever held a larger bar of gold, it's absolutely unmistakable: The stuff is very, very heavy.The standard gold bar for bank-to-bank trade, known as a "London good delivery bar" weighs 400 troy ounces (over thirty-three pounds), yet is no bigger than a paperback novel. A bar of steel the same size would weigh only thirteen and a half pounds.According to gold expert, Theo Gray, the problem is that there are very few metals that are as dense as gold, and with only two exceptions they all cost as much or more than gold.The first exception is depleted uranium, which is cheap if you're a government, but hard for individuals to get. It's also radioactive, which could be a bit of an issue.The second exception is a real winner: tungsten. Tungsten is vastly cheaper than gold (maybe $30 dollars a pound compared to $12,000 a pound for gold right now). And remarkably, it has exactly the same density as gold, to three decimal places. The main differences are that it's the wrong color, and that it's much, much harder than gold. (Very pure gold is quite soft, you can dent it with a fingernail.)A top-of-the-line fake gold bar should match the color, surface hardness, density, chemical, and nuclear properties of gold perfectly. To do this, you could could start with a tungsten slug about 1/8-inch smaller in each dimension than the gold bar you want, then cast a 1/16-inch layer of real pure gold all around it. This bar would feel right in the hand, it would have a dead ring when knocked as gold should, it would test right chemically, it would weigh *exactly* the right amount, and though I don't know this for sure, I think it would also pass an x-ray fluorescence scan, the 1/16" layer of pure gold being enough to stop the x-rays from reaching any tungsten. You'd pretty much have to drill it to find out it's fake.Such a top-quality fake London good delivery bar would cost about $50,000 to produce because it's got a lot of real gold in it, but you'd still make a nice profit considering that a real one is worth closer to $400,000. What's going to happen now? Politicians like Ron Paul have been demanding that the Federal Reserve be more transparent and open up their records for public scrutiny. But the Fed has consistently refused, stating that these disclosures would undermine its operation. Yes, it certainly would!The manufacture of fake gold bars goes back years and, because of this, it is not likely that the originator of this scheme will ever be revealed or brought to justice. Meanwhile the world is just beginning to learn that much of its national reserves of gold may be fake. If more testing reveals that this gold was guaranteed by Fort Knox and the US Treasury then perhaps they will demand an exchange for "real" gold -- wouldn't you? This is all happening at a time when the US economy is at its lowest and most vulnerable. The effects could be devastating.Some investors are already selling gold commodities before these facts are widely known. They are investing instead in silver -- the next best metal. This will undoubtedly drive silver prices up.According to Jim Willie, 24 year market analyst and Ph.D in statistics, "The bust cometh, and it will be spectacular. The stories told in the press will be peculiar, since not told objectively. The headlines might be a comedy, with phony reports of foreign subterfuge, when the perpetrators are home grown."This is yet another story in the decline of America and capitalism -- a decline based on greed, deception and fraud. Paranormal_Research - Scientific Data, Health Conspiracies & Anything Strange Paranormal_ResearchSubscribe:... Paranormal_Research-

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I am very skeptical about this article. I have read Dr. Mercola's posts and web site for quite a few years now and for just as many years he has pushed silver as a safe investment. Then this article shows up just too conveniently, without any references or any links to check it out. 

has been suppressed by the main stream media but has been circulating among the " big money " brokers and financial kingpins and is just now being revealed to the public. 

Where and how is this now being revealed to the public??? Give us some solid references please?

Craig

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Craig I am curious

have you read:

http://www.apfn.net/doc-100_bankruptcy10.htm

 

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http://www.infowars.com/gold-market-breakdown/

 

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> if you are buying gold as a hedge for the Market crash coming ...... VERIFY

you are really getting gold .......

>

> ,

>

> Paste the link if you don't receive the images.

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> http://www.viewzone.com/fakegold.html

Fake gold bars! What's next?

> It's one thing to counterfeit a twenty or hundred dollar bill. The amount of

financial damage is usually limited to a specific region and only affects dozens

of people and thousands of dollars. Secret Service agents quickly notify the

banks on how to recognize these phony bills and retail outlets usually have

procedures in place (such as special pens to test the paper) to stop their

proliferation.

> But what about gold? This is the most sacred of all commodities because it is

thought to be the most trusted, reliable and valuable means of saving wealth.

> A recent discovery -- in October of 2009 -- has been suppressed by the main

stream media but has been circulating among the " big money " brokers and

financial kingpins and is just now being revealed to the public. It involves the

gold in Fort Knox -- the US Treasury gold -- that is the equity of our national

wealth. In short, millions (with an " m " ) of gold bars are fake!

> Who did this? Apparently our own government.

> Background

> In October of 2009 the Chinese received a shipment of gold bars. Gold is

regularly exchanges between countries to pay debts and to settle the so-called

balance of trade. Most gold is exchanged and stored in vaults under the

supervision of a special organization based in London, the London Bullion Market

Association (or LBMA). When the shipment was received, the Chinese government

asked that special tests be performed to guarantee the purity and weight of the

gold bars. In this test, four small holed are drilled into the gold bars and the

metal is then analyzed.

> Officials were shocked to learn that the bars were fake. They contained cores

of tungsten with only a outer coating of real gold. What's more, these gold

bars, containing serial numbers for tracking, originated in the US and had been

stored in Fort Knox for years. There were reportedly between 5,600 to 5,700

bars, weighing 400 oz. each, in the shipment!

> At first many gold experts assumed the fake gold originated in China, the

world's best knock-off producers. The Chinese were quick to investigate and

issued a statement that implicated the US in the scheme.

> What the Chinese uncovered:

> Roughly 15 years ago -- during the Clinton Administration [think Robert Rubin,

Sir Alan Greenspan and Lawrence Summers] -- between 1.3 and 1.5 million 400 oz

tungsten blanks were allegedly manufactured by a very high-end, sophisticated

refiner in the USA [more than 16 Thousand metric tonnes]. Subsequently, 640,000

of these tungsten blanks received their gold plating and WERE shipped to Ft.

Knox and remain there to this day.

>

> According to the Chinese investigation, the balance of this 1.3 million to 1.5

million 400 oz tungsten cache was also gold plated and then allegedly " sold "

into the international market. Apparently, the global market is literally

" stuffed full of 400 oz salted bars " . Perhaps as much as 600-billion dollars

worth.

> An obscure news item originally published in the N.Y. Post [written by

Jennifer Anderson] in late Jan. 04 perhaps makes sense now.

> DA investigating NYMEX executive

> Manhattan, New York, --Feb. 2, 2004. A top executive at the New York

Mercantile Exchange is being investigated by the Manhattan district attorney.

Sources close to the exchange said that Stuart Smith, senior vice president of

operations at the exchange, was served with a search warrant by the district

attorney's office last week. Details of the investigation have not been

disclosed, but a NYMEX spokeswoman said it was unrelated to any of the

exchange's markets. She declined to comment further other than to say that

charges had not been brought. A spokeswoman for the Manhattan district

attorney's office also declined comment. "

> The offices of the Senior Vice President of Operations -- NYMEX -- is exactly

where you would go to find the records [serial number and smelter of origin] for

EVERY GOLD BAR ever PHYSICALLY settled on the exchange. They are required to

keep these records. These precise records would show the lineage of all the

physical gold settled on the exchange and hence " prove " that the amount of gold

in question could not have possibly come from the U.S. mining operations --

because the amounts in question coming from U.S. smelters would undoubtedly be

vastly bigger than domestic mine production.

> No one knows whatever happened to Stuart Smith. After his offices were raided

he took " administrative leave " from the NYMEX and he has never been heard from

since. Amazingly, there never was any follow up on in the media on the original

story as well as ZERO developments ever stemming from D.A. Morgenthau’s office

who executed the search warrant.

> Are we to believe that NYMEX offices were raided, the Sr. V.P. of operations

then takes leave -- all for nothing?

> The revelations of fake gold bars also explains another highly unusual story

that also happened in 2004:

> LONDON, April 14, 2004 (Reuters) -- NM Rothschild & Sons Ltd., the

London-based unit of investment bank Rothschild [ROT.UL], will withdraw from

trading commodities, including gold, in London as it reviews its operations, it

said on Wednesday.

> Interestingly, GATA's Bill Murphy speculated about this back in 2004;

> " Why is Rothschild leaving the gold business at this time my colleagues and I

conjectured today? Just a guess on my part, but suspect something is amiss.

They know a big scandal is coming and they don't want to be a part of it...

[The] Rothschild wants out before the proverbial " S " hits the fan. " -- BILL

MURPHY, LEMETROPOLE, 4-18-2004

> What is the GATA?

> The Gold Antitrust Action Committee (GATA) is an organisation which has been

nipping at the heels of the US Treasury Federal Reserve for several years now.

The basis of GATA's accusations is that these institutions, in coordination with

other complicit central banks and the large gold-trading investment banks in the

US, have been manipulating the price of gold for decades.

> What is the GLD?

> GLD is a short form for Good London Delivery. The London Bullion Market

Association (LBMA) has defined " good delivery " as a delivery from an entity

which is listed on their delivery list or meets the standards for said list and

whose bars have passed testing requirements established by the associatin and

updated from time to time. The bars have to be pure for AU in an area of 995.0

to 999.9 per 1000. Weight, Shape, Appearance, Marks and Weight Stamps are

regulated as follows:

> Weight: minimum 350 fine ounces AU; maximum 430 fine ounces AU, gross weight

of a bar is expressed in troy ounces, in multiples of 0.025, rounded down to the

nearest 0.025 of an troy ounce.

> Dimensions: the recommended dimensions for a Good Delivery gold bar are: Top

Surface: 255 x 81 mm; Bottom Surface: 236 x 57 mm; Thickness: 37 mm.

> Fineness: the minimum 995.0 parts per thousand fine gold. Marks: Serial

number; Assay stamp of refiner; Fineness (to four significant figures); Year of

manufacture (expressed in four digits).

>

> After reviewing their prospectus yet again, it becomes pretty clear that GLD

was established to purposefully deflect investment dollars away from legitimate

gold pursuits and to create a stealth, cesspool / catch-all, slush-fund and a

likely destination for many of these fake tungsten bars where they would never

see the light of day -- hidden behind the following legalese " shield " from the

law:

> [Excerpt from the GLD prospectus on page 11]

> " Gold bars allocated to the Trust in connection with the creation of a Basket

may not meet the London Good Delivery Standards and, if a Basket is issued

against such gold, the Trust may suffer a loss. Neither the Trustee nor the

Custodian independently confirms the fineness of the gold bars allocated to the

Trust in connection with the creation of a Basket. The gold bars allocated to

the Trust by the Custodian may be different from the reported fineness or weight

required by the LBMA’s standards for gold bars delivered in settlement of a

gold trade, or the London Good Delivery Standards, the standards required by the

Trust. If the Trustee nevertheless issues a Basket against such gold, and if the

Custodian fails to satisfy its obligation to credit the Trust the amount of any

deficiency, the Trust may suffer a loss. "

> The Federal Reserve knows but is apparently part of the scheme

> Earlier this year GATA filed a second Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)

request with the Federal Reserve System for documents from 1990 to date having

to do with gold swaps, gold swapped, or proposed gold swaps.

> On Aug. 5, The Federal Reserve responded to this FOIA request by adding two

more documents to those disclosed to GATA in April 2008 from the earlier FOIA

request. These documents totaled 173 pages, many parts of which were redacted

(blacked out). The Fed's response also noted that there were 137 pages of

documents not disclosed that were alleged to be exempt from disclosure.

> GATA appealed this determination on Aug. 20. The appeal asked for more

information to substantiate the legitimacy of the claimed exemptions from

disclosure and an explanation on why some documents, such as one posted on the

Federal Reserve Web site that discusses gold swaps, were not included in the

Aug. 5 document release.

> In a Sept. 17, 2009, letter on Federal Reserve System letterhead, Federal

Reserve governor Kevin M. Warsh completely denied GATA's appeal. The entire text

of this letter can be examined at

http://www.gata.orgGATAFedResponse-09-17-2009.pdf.

> The first paragraph on the third page is the most revealing.

> " In connection with your appeal, I have confirmed that the information

withheld under exemption 4 consists of confidential commercial or financial

information relating to the operations of the Federal Reserve Banks that was

obtained within the meaning of exemption 4. This includes information relating

to swap arrangements with foreign banks on behalf of the Federal Reserve System

and is not the type of information that is customarily disclosed to the public.

This information was properly withheld from you. "

>

> The above statement is an admission that the Federal Reserve has been involved

with the fake gold bar swaps and that it refuses to disclose any information

about its activities!

> Why use tungsten?

> If you are going to print fake money you need to have the special paper,

otherwise the bills don't feel right and can be easily detected by special pens

that most merchants and banks use. Likewise, if you are going to fake gold bars

you had better be sure they have the same weight and properties of real gold.

> In early 2008 millions of dollars in gold at the central bank of Ethiopia

turned out to be fake. What were supposed to be bars of solid gold turned out to

be nothing more than gold-plated steel. They tried to sell the stuff to South

Africa and it was sent back when the South Africans noticed this little problem.

> The problem with making good-quality fake gold is that gold is remarkably

dense. It's almost twice the density of lead, and two-and-a-half times more

dense than steel. You don't usually notice this because small gold rings and the

like don't weigh enough to make it obvious, but if you've ever held a larger bar

of gold, it's absolutely unmistakable: The stuff is very, very heavy.

> The standard gold bar for bank-to-bank trade, known as a " London good delivery

bar " weighs 400 troy ounces (over thirty-three pounds), yet is no bigger than a

paperback novel. A bar of steel the same size would weigh only thirteen and a

half pounds.

> According to gold expert, Theo Gray, the problem is that there are very few

metals that are as dense as gold, and with only two exceptions they all cost as

much or more than gold.

> The first exception is depleted uranium, which is cheap if you're a

government, but hard for individuals to get. It's also radioactive, which could

be a bit of an issue.

> The second exception is a real winner: tungsten. Tungsten is vastly cheaper

than gold (maybe $30 dollars a pound compared to $12,000 a pound for gold right

now). And remarkably, it has exactly the same density as gold, to three decimal

places. The main differences are that it's the wrong color, and that it's much,

much harder than gold. (Very pure gold is quite soft, you can dent it with a

fingernail.)

> A top-of-the-line fake gold bar should match the color, surface hardness,

density, chemical, and nuclear properties of gold perfectly. To do this, you

could could start with a tungsten slug about 1/8-inch smaller in each dimension

than the gold bar you want, then cast a 1/16-inch layer of real pure gold all

around it. This bar would feel right in the hand, it would have a dead ring when

knocked as gold should, it would test right chemically, it would weigh *exactly*

the right amount, and though I don't know this for sure, I think it would also

pass an x-ray fluorescence scan, the 1/16 " layer of pure gold being enough to

stop the x-rays from reaching any tungsten. You'd pretty much have to drill it

to find out it's fake.

> Such a top-quality fake London good delivery bar would cost about $50,000 to

produce because it's got a lot of real gold in it, but you'd still make a nice

profit considering that a real one is worth closer to $400,000.

> What's going to happen now?

> Politicians like Ron Paul have been demanding that the Federal Reserve be

more transparent and open up their records for public scrutiny. But the Fed has

consistently refused, stating that these disclosures would undermine its

operation. Yes, it certainly would!

> The manufacture of fake gold bars goes back years and, because of this, it is

not likely that the originator of this scheme will ever be revealed or brought

to justice. Meanwhile the world is just beginning to learn that much of its

national reserves of gold may be fake. If more testing reveals that this gold

was guaranteed by Fort Knox and the US Treasury then perhaps they will demand an

exchange for " real " gold -- wouldn't you?

> This is all happening at a time when the US economy is at its lowest and most

vulnerable. The effects could be devastating.

> Some investors are already selling gold commodities before these facts are

widely known. They are investing instead in silver -- the next best metal. This

will undoubtedly drive silver prices up.

> According to Jim Willie, 24 year market analyst and Ph.D in statistics, " The

bust cometh, and it will be spectacular. The stories told in the press will be

peculiar, since not told objectively. The headlines might be a comedy, with

phony reports of foreign subterfuge, when the perpetrators are home grown. "

> This is yet another story in the decline of America and capitalism -- a

decline based on greed, deception and fraud.

>

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