Suggestions wanted for someone with MS who has had a stroke

September 9, 2009

irene

At 07:00 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote:

,

Yesterday, I caught up with some friends and one of them is

desperate to get all and any information to help his partner towards

recovery of a stroke, recovery for as far as possible under the

circumstances..

The lady in question is 58 years of age, has been suffering with MS

for a number of years and was using a Goopher/scooter for transport

since last October.

In April of this year, she suffered a stroke and has been stuck in a

nursing home ever since with the prognosis being: she will never come

out of the nursing home, is bedridden and in another 12 months when

the effects of the stroke have mellowed out one will have a clear

picture of what she will be like for the rest of her life (this is

the message he was given by the medical and nursing staff of the nursing

home).

She receives physio therapy and some meds but I didn't ask what

medications, not whether the medds were for stroke related or MS

related problems. The lady has use of only one arm, unable to walk,

cannot speak other than grunt. It appears that she is still very much

with it although there appears to be some memory loss/non

recognition, and the frustration and anger she feels about not being

able to communicate as she used it gets the better of her at times.

With the help of pictures she is able to let them know if she wants a

glass of water, a coffee, or ovaltine..whether she wants her hair

dryer, a comb... etc etc. This just to give an idea of how they are

communicating.

She recognises the alphabet and she has been given a children's

keyboard which has large coloured letters which she manages to press

when taking her time to hit them properly. Yesterday, my daughter

printed off a sheet with sign language for one hand which may help

as well since she has the use of the one hand.

My question is: would there be a list of supplements, diet

ideas, exercise ideas which one wouldn't hear about in a nursing

home but will help towards a recovery?

Looking forward to your responses.

Hanneke

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September 9, 2009

Here is an excerpt from my book on natural health. My husband suffered a stroke at the age of 55 and this is how i treated him.

In the hospital they must have kept her in A/c conditions whereas a stroke patient needs to be kept warm.

these are different things that i got to know of from different sources. The speech also comes back with urd dal vadas made in cows ghee. cow's ghee itself is a medicine. Kulthi or horse gram rejuvenates the nerves. take care of nutrition. exposre etc. I think every detail is there in the fragment below. My husband started talking after 2 months and started driving his car after 4 months. We are in India he also drove in the US where everything is on the other side. continue with physiotherapy as that is what brings the funtions of the limbs back.

i don't know much about MS but swami Ramdev's kalal bhatti and anulom violom have helped people in strokes as well as in MS.

but as a disclaimer I am wrting that please do your checks before you use anything from here. i am not a doctor This is from my personal experience.

STROKE (treatment)

The mind should be free from all kinds of tension. A gentle oil massage on the head is recommended. First and foremost is to keep the patient warm as warm as can be. In the villages they make them sleep on the rice husk or the dried rice plants. Nothing cold should be given. Not only that which feels cold to touch, but also that which has cold properties, like the banana. Banana is totally prohibited as it is very cold. No fruits other than apple, papaya and cheeku are to be given, no fruit juices, only soups and that too, the best is of black channa to which some Kulthi (horse Gram) should be added. These should be boiled (without being pre-soaked, as pre soaking makes it cold) the thick dark extract should be given, for utmost strength to the body. Nothing should be soaked for the stroke victim. Black channa gives strength and kulthi is for all nerve

disorders.

In a stroke, the patient loses weight too fast and too much, actually the cause of stroke is also malnutrition, so all kind of nutritive things should be given, of course taking into account the things prohibited. Bottlegourd, coriander, onions, curds, and tomatoes, sugar and tea, these all come under cold foods. These should be avoided. All kinds of fruits also have cold properties other than papaya, apple and cheeku. It is better to avoid tea and coffee and to give lots of milk. Sugar can be replaced with jaggery and sugar candy (mishri)

As this happens due to malnutrition, so nutrition has to be supplemented as much as possible and through food alone. The water in which the patient takes bath should not be mixed with cold water. Water should be heated only to that point and no more. In case cold water has to be added then it should be mixed very well by lifting it and putting back with the mug.

The glass or cup that is used for the patient should be first rinsed with hot water so that there is no trace of cold in the last bit of the drink given to the patient. Make it a habit for everyone.

Cowâ€™s ghee preferably made at home is the best medium to cook a stroke patientâ€™s food. This has the properties of retaining what is needed by the body and throwing out what is not needed. It is not heavy as people generally believe; rather it is lighter and healthier, and it provides the much needed nutrition to the body.

In the right sided stroke, speech is affected and there are many ways to bring it back. One is a homeopathic medicine by the name Causticum. It can be taken in 30 potency. Then Kali phos again of 30 potency is good for speech. Magnesia phos is good as well. It is also for all ailments of the right side.

Another very interesting cure for speech is vadas made out of urad dal fried in cowâ€™s ghee. (This has been mentioned in three books that I have). In earlier stages when the patient is not able to chew any thing and the diet is semi liquid, that time these vadas can be crushed in the mixie and added to the soup of the patient.

Many oil formulations are there for application (oil massage of the body) on the side that is affected.

The easiest one to make at home is; take sesame or mustard oil and put garlic and ginger in it, let it heat to the point of the herbs getting burnt, let cool down, then strain and bottle it.

This has to be applied (not rubbed vigorously) on the affected parts and the applying has to be done downwards and outwards, away from the body, and after that a hot fomentation should be given. For this take an old cloth put some urd lentils in it, tie the cloth make two such potlis (bags) and on the tava, (the girdle), put both to heat, take one, give fomentation to the whole area where oil has been applied by the time this gets cold the other one is ready on the tava, now take that and put this first one on the girdle. It goes without saying that the potlis should be just hot enough to be bearable. This should not scald the patient. Like this alternate between the two so that there is no gap during fomentation. The hot oils for massage can be bought from any shops that dispense ayurvedic medicines. Mahanarayani is the most common oil but there are many more with good effect.

This is good for the blood vessels that have gone cold; they come alive with this fomentation.

Kali phos, a bio chemic medicine or cell salt or in plain language homeopathic medicine is the main remedy for the limp in the leg, the slur in the speech as well as the afflictions of the brain. It also helps the High Blood pressure.

Kali phos is also a brain tonic thereby greatly helping the stroke patient.

Kali phos helps the affliction of the speech due to paralysis, in short it is good for the total affectations by the stroke.

Magnesia Phos is for strengthening of the nerves. A very good remedy for nerves as well as stroke itself, very effective for right sided afflictions.

Calcarea flour is for the muscles.

Calc phos for general health. All these are cell salts.

An effective remedy is the horse gram (kulthi). Given in any form it relieves the effects of the stroke. This is a must. Kulthi is good for all neurological disorders. It can be given as soup or plain boiled or any which way cook it and give it, it should go in.

For general debility black channa soup can be given everyday.

As a brain tonic, five almonds, five pistachios, five small green cardamoms, five munnakkas, five corns of black pepper all ground and mixed with misri should be given to the patient.

One of the causes of stroke is malnutrition. It does not mean that a rich person cannot suffer from malnutrition; they are more prone to it as they eat whatever they like and afford and not according to the nutritional needs. So the deficiency of nutrients occurs and thus the stroke comes around. Due to this very reason there is a strong possibility of the stroke repeating itself. But if proper care is taken of the nutrition then the chances of a repeat can be aborted. Bhupen lived a full life 14 years after the stroke and it did not repeat.

How do we make sure that nutrition is taken care of?

If we give all kinds of vegetables and legumes to the patient that will ensure that he is fortified against malnutrition.

Milk is an absolute essentiality. It should be cowâ€™s milk. The cow preferably desi the one with a hump and not the jersey cow, not the one which is genetically modified. If that is not possible then whatever best is available.

Only three fruits, apple, papaya and cheeku can be taken. All other fruits are cold .

All kinds of food, wide and varied should be taken if certain vegetables donâ€™t fit in your food preparations then add them to soups, saag, sambhar pav bhaji, upama, mixed vegetable dish etc.

Lots of ginger should be added to food or to be given in any other way to the patient. It is warm in nature and is carminative and digestive. Ginger with salt taken 20 minutes before meals stokes the digestive fire. I add lime juice to it.

Similarly warm water taken in regular intervals helps the digestive fire.

It is important for a stroke patient to clear his bowels, for this triphala is good as it is not habit forming and the best in initial stages is Castor oil with ginger powder.

A tablespoon of castor oil and one tea spoon of ginger powder should be mixed in warm milk and taken 2-3 times a week is very helpful. Those who have bad memories of the smell of castor oil need not worry as these days it does not smell so bad and ginger is also an ameliorating factor to that smell.

There is an exercise for control over the bowel movements, it helps dramatically.

With the patient on his back fold the legs such that the feet are on the bed and closer to the buttocks, lift the hip region as much as the patient can and hold it for as long as he can. This exercise done regularly helps very much. It is also called the setu bandh asana. It is also called the pelvic lift.

There is another exercise for control over motions and urination and that is the keggel exercises or in yoga it is called the ashwini mudra where you pull the anus upwards and release, do it a few times about 50- 60 times a day. Do not attempt to overdo this as it may result in adverse effect. Over doing it, gave slip disc to some one I know. He was doing it the whole day.

Other exercises notwithstanding, those are as important so all the exercises should be done.

For the mouth, tongue and speech:

Roll the tongue over the teeth, upper jaw as well as lower jaw and outside as well as inside of the teeth. This strengthens the teeth as well as the gums, and the tongue also gets strength. Then another exercise is taking the tongue from one cheek to another stretching the cheeks out wards.

Filling the mouth cavity with air is another good exercise. Filling air in the balloon is often advised.

Stretching of the lips, action of saying U Z alternately also helps. All these exercises help in drooling as well.

Simhasan is where we take the tongue out as much as possible making the sound of the roar of the lion, hence the name.is another exercise for controlling the drooling.

Physiotherapy not withstanding: as that is what starts the patient to regain his functions i.e. movement of arms and legs. These should be continued till total movements are gained. Otherwise the muscles die away. This happens due to high blood pressure which again happens due to malnutrition and lack of oxygen.

If there is a clot and the stroke happens due to a clot then homeopathic medicine, Calc Flour, a cell salt, (bio-Chemic) is very good to dissolve the clot, it also helps the muscles. 6 or 6X potency is what I would use.

In biochemic or homeopathic medicines Kali phos is the single best remedy for stroke. Of course Calc Phos should be taken for general health, calc flour for blood clot and muscle strength, Magnesia phos for magnesium, nerves and for right sided stroke, Kali mur for digestion, Natrum Mur for cold feeling or the cold that has set in the body.

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333.eceireneAt 07:00 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote:

,Yesterday, I caught up with some friends and one of them is desperate to get all and any information to help his partner towards recovery of a stroke, recovery for as far as possible under the circumstances. .The lady in question is 58 years of age, has been suffering with MS for a number of years and was using a Goopher/scooter for transport since last October.In April of this year, she suffered a stroke and has been stuck in a nursing home ever since with the prognosis being: she will never come out of the nursing home, is bedridden and in another 12 months when the effects of the stroke have mellowed out one will have a clear picture of what she will be like for the rest of her life (this is the message he was given by the medical and nursing staff of the nursing home).She receives physio therapy and some meds but I didn't ask

what medications, not whether the medds were for stroke related or MS related problems. The lady has use of only one arm, unable to walk, cannot speak other than grunt. It appears that she is still very much with it although there appears to be some memory loss/non recognition, and the frustration and anger she feels about not being able to communicate as she used it gets the better of her at times.With the help of pictures she is able to let them know if she wants a glass of water, a coffee, or ovaltine..whether she wants her hair dryer, a comb... etc etc. This just to give an idea of how they are communicating.She recognises the alphabet and she has been given a children's keyboard which has large coloured letters which she manages to press when taking her time to hit them properly. Yesterday, my daughter printed off a sheet with sign language for one hand which may help as well since she

has the use of the one hand.My question is: would there be a list of supplements, diet ideas, exercise ideas which one wouldn't hear about in a nursing home but will help towards a recovery?Looking forward to your responses.Hanneke---avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.Virus Database (VPS): 090908-0, 08/09/2009Tested on: 9/09/2009 12:30:55 PMavast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software.http://www.avast. com

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