Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 "In the video clip below Glenn Beck pretends to be doing people a favor by telling them to not go to the cars.gov website. Beck solicits the help of a Fox News anchor, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who backs up Beck's opinion to give it the appearance of legitimacy. Beck proceeds to demonstrate what he claims is a way the government website takes over your computer. Finally, Beck reads from a disclaimer on the website that he claims authorizes the government to access all your files. The Fox News anchor supports Beck by saying that after accessing the website the government can get a hold of all your "informations." In addition, she falsely claims that people going to the website are just trying to make a charitable "donation." Since when did receiving a $4500 credit from the government became a donation? The truth is of course far removed from the claims of Beck. As the blog Daily Kos outlines, Beck is showing a website that not the cars.gov website but instead another government website which can only be accessed by car dealers who are screened and registered for the CARS program. So it is only dealers who are using the government program that have access to the website. Furthermore, it makes sense that the government have access to the dealer's computer since it is a government program handing out billions of dollars that has the potential for fraud. Up to this point Glenn Beck's rants and misstatements of fact have only been harmful on a political level. This time if people listen to Beck they may very well not take part in a program that could save them thousands of dollars. So now not only is Beck making people dumber he is also potentially costing them money." http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-St-Louis-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m8d1-Video--Glenn-Beck-promotes-paranoia-with-recent-Cash-for-Clunkers-website-myths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 As far as I know The Daily Kos is controlled opposition. At 12:21 PM 4/08/2009, you wrote: " In the video clip below Glenn Beck pretends to be doing people a favor by telling them to not go to the cars.gov website. Beck solicits the help of a Fox News anchor, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who backs up Beck's opinion to give it the appearance of legitimacy. Beck proceeds to demonstrate what he claims is a way the government website takes over your computer. Finally, Beck reads from a disclaimer on the website that he claims authorizes the government to access all your files. The Fox News anchor supports Beck by saying that after accessing the website the government can get a hold of all your " informations. " In addition, she falsely claims that people going to the website are just trying to make a charitable " donation. " Since when did receiving a $4500 credit from the government became a donation? The truth is of course far removed from the claims of Beck. As the blog Daily Kos outlines, Beck is showing a website that not the cars.gov website but instead another government website which can only be accessed by car dealers who are screened and registered for the CARS program. So it is only dealers who are using the government program that have access to the website. Furthermore, it makes sense that the government have access to the dealer's computer since it is a government program handing out billions of dollars that has the potential for fraud. Up to this point Glenn Beck's rants and misstatements of fact have only been harmful on a political level. This time if people listen to Beck they may very well not take part in a program that could save them thousands of dollars. So now not only is Beck making people dumber he is also potentially costing them money. " http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-St-Louis-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m8d1-Video--Glenn-Beck-promotes-paranoia-with-recent-Cash-for-Clunkers-website-myths avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009 Tested on: 4/08/2009 12:25:22 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009Tested on: 4/08/2009 12:39:43 PMavast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 So bottom line is that Bea was also promotong paranoia by even posting Glenn Beck's misleading video. Not good. Josephine , Hanneke <blosshan wrote: > > As far as I know The Daily Kos is controlled opposition. > > At 12:21 PM 4/08/2009, you wrote: > > > > " In the video clip below Glenn Beck pretends to be doing people a > >favor by telling them to not go to the cars.gov website. Beck > >solicits the help of a Fox News anchor, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who > >backs up Beck's opinion to give it the appearance of > >legitimacy. Beck proceeds to demonstrate what he claims is a way > >the government website takes over your computer. Finally, Beck > >reads from a disclaimer on the website that he claims authorizes the > >government to access all your files. > > > >The Fox News anchor supports Beck by saying that after accessing the > >website the government can get a hold of all your > > " informations. " In addition, she falsely claims that people going > >to the website are just trying to make a charitable > > " donation. " Since when did receiving a $4500 credit from the > >government became a donation? > > > >The truth is of course far removed from the claims of > >Beck. <http://www.dailykos.com/>As the blog Daily Kos outlines, > >Beck is showing a website that not the cars.gov website but instead > >another government website which can only be accessed by car dealers > >who are screened and registered for the CARS program. So it is only > >dealers who are using the government program that have access to the > >website. Furthermore, it makes sense that the government have > >access to the dealer's computer since it is a government program > >handing out billions of dollars that has the potential for fraud. > > > >Up to this point Glenn Beck's rants and misstatements of fact have > >only been harmful on a political level. This time if people listen > >to Beck they may very well not take part in a program that could > >save them thousands of dollars. So now not only is Beck making > >people dumber he is also potentially costing them money. " > > > ><http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-St-Louis-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m8d1-Vide\ o--Glenn-Beck-promotes-paranoia-with-recent-Cash-for-Clunkers-website-myths>http\ ://www.examiner.com/x-5738-St-Louis-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m8d1-Video--Gle\ nn-Beck-promotes-paranoia-with-recent-Cash-for-Clunkers-website-myths > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > ><http://www.avast.com>avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > > > >Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009 > >Tested on: 4/08/2009 12:25:22 PM > >avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009 > Tested on: 4/08/2009 12:39:43 PM > avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 No, Beck's video is considered pretty much sound information Josephine. I was referring to the Daily Kos. Beck's video is everywhere. At 01:26 PM 4/08/2009, you wrote: >So bottom line is that Bea was also promotong paranoia by even >posting Glenn Beck's misleading video. Not good. Josephine > > > > , Hanneke <blosshan wrote: > > > > As far as I know The Daily Kos is controlled opposition. > > > > At 12:21 PM 4/08/2009, you wrote: > > > > > > > " In the video clip below Glenn Beck pretends to be doing people a > > >favor by telling them to not go to the cars.gov website. Beck > > >solicits the help of a Fox News anchor, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who > > >backs up Beck's opinion to give it the appearance of > > >legitimacy. Beck proceeds to demonstrate what he claims is a way > > >the government website takes over your computer. Finally, Beck > > >reads from a disclaimer on the website that he claims authorizes the > > >government to access all your files. > > > > > >The Fox News anchor supports Beck by saying that after accessing the > > >website the government can get a hold of all your > > > " informations. " In addition, she falsely claims that people going > > >to the website are just trying to make a charitable > > > " donation. " Since when did receiving a $4500 credit from the > > >government became a donation? > > > > > >The truth is of course far removed from the claims of > > >Beck. <http://www.dailykos.com/>As the blog Daily Kos outlines, > > >Beck is showing a website that not the cars.gov website but instead > > >another government website which can only be accessed by car dealers > > >who are screened and registered for the CARS program. So it is only > > >dealers who are using the government program that have access to the > > >website. Furthermore, it makes sense that the government have > > >access to the dealer's computer since it is a government program > > >handing out billions of dollars that has the potential for fraud. > > > > > >Up to this point Glenn Beck's rants and misstatements of fact have > > >only been harmful on a political level. This time if people listen > > >to Beck they may very well not take part in a program that could > > >save them thousands of dollars. So now not only is Beck making > > >people dumber he is also potentially costing them money. " > > > > > ><http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-St-Louis-Political-Buzz-Examiner~ > y2009m8d1-Video--Glenn-Beck-promotes-paranoia-with-recent-Cash-for-Clunkers-webs\ ite-myths>http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-St-Louis-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m\ 8d1-Video--Glenn-Beck-promotes-paranoia-with-recent-Cash-for-Clunkers-website-my\ ths > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------- > > ><http://www.avast.com>avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > > > > > >Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009 > > >Tested on: 4/08/2009 12:25:22 PM > > >avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > > > > > > > > --- > > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > > Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009 > > Tested on: 4/08/2009 12:39:43 PM > > avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > > > >--- > >«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» > >§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! § > > >Subscribe send email to: - > >«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» > >GREAT VACATION RENTAL ON THE LAKE: www.vacationhomerentals.com/39833 > >DISCLOSURE: >Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be >news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always >consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any >course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. > > >SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP: >By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its >members, list owners, moderators & affiliates harmless of any >liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred. > >If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach your >name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record. >You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions >to the source of the material. Submissions are gladly accepted. >Please feel free to post material that you think are worthy. > >YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own >actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on >any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. > >IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 U.S. auto sales jumped to the highest level of 2009 in July as Americans rushed to take advantage of the government's "Cash for Clunkers" program, raising hopes that the battered sector is poised for recovery. Ford Motor Co's sales rose 2 percent, its first month's gain over the previous year since late 2007 and the first for any of the major automakers in the U.S. market since the financial crisis exploded last fall. Shares of the No. 2 automaker rose almost 7 percent and stoked gains for shares in auto suppliers. Automakers credited the runaway success of the U.S. government's $1 billion "Cash for Clunkers" incentive program, allowing people to trade in old cars and trucks, with lifting industry-wide sales back above 11 million units on an annualized basis tracked by analysts. Government measures in Europe to boost demand also bolstered car sales in that region for July. French sales rose 3 percent, Italian sales gained 6 percent but sales in Spain posted a slower decline. U.S. auto sales overall, which are watched as one of the earliest indicators of consumer demand, fell 12 percent from a year earlier. But the sales rate was the highest since September 2008 and marked a sharp increase from the depressed 9.6 million-vehicle sales pace that had held over the first half of the year. The U.S. government-incentive program, modeled on programs pioneered by European governments, offered consumers taxpayer-funded rebates of up to $4,500 to swap out of older, less fuel-efficient cars. The program pushed sales sharply higher in the final week of July and exhausted the full $1 billion allocated for it. The resulting boom also encouraged investor expectations that major automakers will increase production and could even start to raise prices by ending long-established discounts. "I think this is the greatest one-week stimulus program ever to come out of Washington or anywhere else," said Ford's chief sales analyst George Pipas. http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN0353048020090804?feedType=nl & feedName=ustopnewslate Highland/CDL Tuesday, August 04, 2009 2:51 PM Paranoia promoted with recent Cash for Clunkers website myths "In the video clip below Glenn Beck pretends to be doing people a favor by telling them to not go to the cars.gov website. Beck solicits the help of a Fox News anchor, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who backs up Beck's opinion to give it the appearance of legitimacy. Beck proceeds to demonstrate what he claims is a way the government website takes over your computer. Finally, Beck reads from a disclaimer on the website that he claims authorizes the government to access all your files. The Fox News anchor supports Beck by saying that after accessing the website the government can get a hold of all your "informations." In addition, she falsely claims that people going to the website are just trying to make a charitable "donation." Since when did receiving a $4500 credit from the government became a donation? The truth is of course far removed from the claims of Beck. As the blog Daily Kos outlines, Beck is showing a website that not the cars.gov website but instead another government website which can only be accessed by car dealers who are screened and registered for the CARS program. So it is only dealers who are using the government program that have access to the website. Furthermore, it makes sense that the government have access to the dealer's computer since it is a government program handing out billions of dollars that has the potential for fraud. Up to this point Glenn Beck's rants and misstatements of fact have only been harmful on a political level. This time if people listen to Beck they may very well not take part in a program that could save them thousands of dollars. So now not only is Beck making people dumber he is also potentially costing them money." http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-St-Louis-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m8d1-Video--Glenn-Beck-promotes-paranoia-with-recent-Cash-for-Clunkers-website-myths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 What do you mean by "controlled opposition"? Cash for Clunkers Claim: Users of the "Cash for Clunkers" web site must agree that their computers become U.S. government property. FALSE Example: [Collected via e-mail, July 2009] "DO NOT GO ON CARS.GOV, a disclaimer says by using the site your computer and all of it's files are then property of the government. This means they can look at your computer anytime and if you use a program like Skype they can eaves drop on any call you make. It is like having the government sitting by your side as you use it. WARNING - DO NOT LOG ON TO CARS.GOV If you log on to cars.gov and accept the privacy terms, the government now has the right to take all the information on your computer. That will include all your personal information, bank records, transactions, web site log ins, EVERYTHING ON YOUR COMPUTER. I am not saying the government will take your personal information. I am telling you that accepting the terms will allow them to. Is this what our government is coming to?" Origins: CARS.gov is the web site for the U.S. government's Car Allowance Rebate System (CARS), a program more commonly referred to as "Cash for Clunkers" which provides consumers with $3,500 or $4,500 discounts for their trade-ins when they purchase or lease new vehicles. In late July 2009, a rumor began spreading that the terms and conditions on the CARS.gov web site specified that by using the site, consumers explicitly agreed that their computers would be considered U.S. government property. This false rumor was apparently based on someone's mistaken interpretation of a "Privacy Act & Security Statement" linked from the CARS.gov web site. However, that statement is actually tied to the "Submit Transaction" function on the Dealer Support portion of the web site and relates to a login page for entry to the Enterprise Services Center (ESC) web site at esc.gov, which is used by automobile dealers (not consumers) who have been authorized and registered to participate in the CARS program. In short, users visiting the CARS.gov web site do not have to agree that the federal government can take control of their computers, nor will they be asked to grant permission for the government to do so. Last updated: 3 August 2009 http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/clunkers.asp Hanneke Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:09 PM [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Paranoia promoted with recent Cash for Clunkers website myths As far as I know The Daily Kos is controlled opposition.At 12:21 PM 4/08/2009, you wrote: "In the video clip below Glenn Beck pretends to be doing people a favor by telling them to not go to the cars.gov website. Beck solicits the help of a Fox News anchor, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who backs up Beck's opinion to give it the appearance of legitimacy. Beck proceeds to demonstrate what he claims is a way the government website takes over your computer. Finally, Beck reads from a disclaimer on the website that he claims authorizes the government to access all your files. The Fox News anchor supports Beck by saying that after accessing the website the government can get a hold of all your "informations." In addition, she falsely claims that people going to the website are just trying to make a charitable "donation." Since when did receiving a $4500 credit from the government became a donation?The truth is of course far removed from the claims of Beck. As the blog Daily Kos outlines, Beck is showing a website that not the cars.gov website but instead another government website which can only be accessed by car dealers who are screened and registered for the CARS program. So it is only dealers who are using the government program that have access to the website. Furthermore, it makes sense that the government have access to the dealer's computer since it is a government program handing out billions of dollars that has the potential for fraud.Up to this point Glenn Beck's rants and misstatements of fact have only been harmful on a political level. This time if people listen to Beck they may very well not take part in a program that could save them thousands of dollars. So now not only is Beck making people dumber he is also potentially costing them money."http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-St-Louis-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m8d1-Video--Glenn-Beck-promotes-paranoia-with-recent-Cash-for-Clunkers-website-myths avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009Tested on: 4/08/2009 12:25:22 PMavast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009Tested on: 4/08/2009 12:39:43 PMavast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=23344 At 05:40 PM 4/08/2009, you wrote: What do you mean by " controlled opposition " ? Cash for Clunkers Claim: Users of the " Cash for Clunkers " web site must agree that their computers become U.S. government property. FALSE Example: [Collected via e-mail, July 2009] " DO NOT GO ON CARS.GOV, a disclaimer says by using the site your computer and all of it's files are then property of the government. This means they can look at your computer anytime and if you use a program like Skype they can eaves drop on any call you make. It is like having the government sitting by your side as you use it. WARNING - DO NOT LOG ON TO CARS.GOV If you log on to cars.gov and accept the privacy terms, the government now has the right to take all the information on your computer. That will include all your personal information, bank records, transactions, web site log ins, EVERYTHING ON YOUR COMPUTER. I am not saying the government will take your personal information. I am telling you that accepting the terms will allow them to. Is this what our government is coming to? " Origins: CARS.gov is the web site for the U.S. government's Car Allowance Rebate System (CARS), a program more commonly referred to as " Cash for Clunkers " which provides consumers with $3,500 or $4,500 discounts for their trade-ins when they purchase or lease new vehicles. In late July 2009, a rumor began spreading that the terms and conditions on the CARS.gov web site specified that by using the site, consumers explicitly agreed that their computers would be considered U.S. government property. This false rumor was apparently based on someone's mistaken interpretation of a " Privacy Act & Security Statement " linked from the CARS.gov web site. However, that statement is actually tied to the " Submit Transaction " function on the Dealer Support portion of the web site and relates to a login page for entry to the Enterprise Services Center (ESC) web site at esc.gov, which is used by automobile dealers (not consumers) who have been authorized and registered to participate in the CARS program. In short, users visiting the CARS.gov web site do not have to agree that the federal government can take control of their computers, nor will they be asked to grant permission for the government to do so. Last updated: 3 August 2009 http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/clunkers.asp Hanneke Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:09 PM [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Paranoia promoted with recent Cash for Clunkers website myths As far as I know The Daily Kos is controlled opposition. At 12:21 PM 4/08/2009, you wrote: " In the video clip below Glenn Beck pretends to be doing people a favor by telling them to not go to the cars.gov website. Beck solicits the help of a Fox News anchor, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who backs up Beck's opinion to give it the appearance of legitimacy. Beck proceeds to demonstrate what he claims is a way the government website takes over your computer. Finally, Beck reads from a disclaimer on the website that he claims authorizes the government to access all your files. The Fox News anchor supports Beck by saying that after accessing the website the government can get a hold of all your " informations. " In addition, she falsely claims that people going to the website are just trying to make a charitable " donation. " Since when did receiving a $4500 credit from the government became a donation? The truth is of course far removed from the claims of Beck. As the blog Daily Kos outlines, Beck is showing a website that not the cars.gov website but instead another government website which can only be accessed by car dealers who are screened and registered for the CARS program. So it is only dealers who are using the government program that have access to the website. Furthermore, it makes sense that the government have access to the dealer's computer since it is a government program handing out billions of dollars that has the potential for fraud. Up to this point Glenn Beck's rants and misstatements of fact have only been harmful on a political level. This time if people listen to Beck they may very well not take part in a program that could save them thousands of dollars. So now not only is Beck making people dumber he is also potentially costing them money. " http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-St-Louis-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m8d1-Video--Glenn-Beck-promotes-paranoia-with-recent-Cash-for-Clunkers-website-myths avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009 Tested on: 4/08/2009 12:25:22 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009 Tested on: 4/08/2009 12:39:43 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009 Tested on: 4/08/2009 5:46:15 PM avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009Tested on: 4/08/2009 5:56:35 PMavast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 But what do you mean by "controlled opposition"? Do you realise that Daily Kos is a collaborative blog, offering comment-posting privileges to its visitors, (20 million visits per month) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Kos If it is "controlled", it is by it's readers correcting posted errors, (or FOX BS). Here is an example. Beck conspiracy theory: "Cash for clunkers" site lets Feds control your PC by Jed Lewison Sat Aug 01, 2009 at 09:32:03 AM PDT Before you play the video of Glenn Beck's latest loony-tunes conspiracy theory, keep in mind that it's totally nuts. Here's the key information debunking it: If you are a consumer visiting cars.gov (the "cash for clunkers" website) the Federal government cannot take control over your computer, nor will it ask permission to do so. The "Terms of Use" statement to which Beck refers in this clip is not from cars.gov. Rather it is a login page for dealer transactions located at esc.gov. The only people who can get login credentials for the esc.gov site are dealers who have been screened and registered for the "cash for clunkers" program. To summarize: the page in question isn't on cars.gov and can only be used by dealers who have already registered. Consumers won't be impacted by any of this. With that out of the way, enjoy the crazy: ps. one way to tell honest truth from crazy, honest truth provides the sources so that you can self verify, whereas crazy says "don't check" and "trust me". Hanneke Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:26 PM http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=23344At 05:40 PM 4/08/2009, you wrote: What do you mean by "controlled opposition"? Cash for ClunkersClaim: Users of the "Cash for Clunkers" web site must agree that their computers become U.S. government property.FALSEExample: [Collected via e-mail, July 2009]"DO NOT GO ON CARS.GOV, a disclaimer says by using the site your computer and all of it's files are then property of the government. This means they can look at your computer anytime and if you use a program like Skype they can eaves drop on any call you make. It is like having the government sitting by your side as you use it.WARNING - DO NOT LOG ON TO CARS.GOVIf you log on to cars.gov and accept the privacy terms, the government now has the right to take all the information on your computer. That will include all your personal information, bank records, transactions, web site log ins, EVERYTHING ON YOUR COMPUTER.I am not saying the government will take your personal information. I am telling you that accepting the terms will allow them to.Is this what our government is coming to?"Origins:CARS.gov is the web site for the U.S. government's Car Allowance Rebate System (CARS), a program more commonly referred to as "Cash for Clunkers" which provides consumers with $3,500 or $4,500 discounts for their trade-ins when they purchase or lease new vehicles.In late July 2009, a rumor began spreading that the terms and conditions on the CARS.gov web site specified that by using the site, consumers explicitly agreed thattheir computers would be considered U.S. government property.This false rumor was apparently based on someone's mistaken interpretation of a "Privacy Act & Security Statement" linked from the CARS.gov web site.However, that statement is actually tied to the "Submit Transaction" function on the Dealer Support portion of the web site and relates to a login page for entry to the Enterprise Services Center (ESC) web site at esc.gov, which is used by automobile dealers (not consumers) who have been authorized and registered to participate in the CARS program.In short, users visiting the CARS.gov web site do not have to agree that the federal government can take control of their computers, nor will they be asked to grant permission for the government to do so.Last updated: 3 August 2009http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/clunkers.asp Hanneke Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:09 PM[Norton AntiSpam] Re: Paranoia promoted with recent Cash for Clunkers website myths As far as I know The Daily Kos is controlled opposition.At 12:21 PM 4/08/2009, you wrote: "In the video clip below Glenn Beck pretends to be doing people a favor by telling them to not go to the cars.gov website. Beck solicits the help of a Fox News anchor, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who backs up Beck's opinion to give it the appearance of legitimacy. Beck proceeds to demonstrate what he claims is a way the government website takes over your computer. Finally, Beck reads from a disclaimer on the website that he claims authorizes the government to access all your files. The Fox News anchor supports Beck by saying that after accessing the website the government can get a hold of all your "informations." In addition, she falsely claims that people going to the website are just trying to make a charitable "donation." Since when did receiving a $4500 credit from the government became a donation?The truth is of course far removed from the claims of Beck. As the blog Daily Kos outlines, Beck is showing a website that not the cars.gov website but instead another government website which can only be accessed by car dealers who are screened and registered for the CARS program. So it is only dealers who are using the government program that have access to the website. Furthermore, it makes sense that the government have access to the dealer's computer since it is a government program handing out billions of dollars that has the potential for fraud.Up to this point Glenn Beck's rants and misstatements of fact have only been harmful on a political level. This time if people listen to Beck they may very well not take part in a program that could save them thousands of dollars. So now not only is Beck making people dumber he is also potentially costing them money."http://www.examiner.com/x-5738-St-Louis-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m8d1-Video--Glenn-Beck-promotes-paranoia-with-recent-Cash-for-Clunkers-website-myths avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090804-0, 04/08/2009Tested on: 4/08/2009 12:25:22 PMavast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. 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