individual variance ... a couple more thoughts

July 28, 2009

Hello Tony.

You are most welcome.

A couple more thoughts on continuities & discontinuities from individual to

individual especially in cumulative toxicities & deficiences.

Most " altered states " are not subtle. An accumulated " body-burden " is not

subtle at all. It is ascertainable, case-by-case, clinically, by measurement &

sign, not mere subjective Sense Data (aka symptom). Symptom history itself has

enough power (same weight as any declaration) that symptom-taking is abandoned

in modern medical history-taking. Once part of standard practice,

symptom-taking is now relegated to homeopathy & maybe the various naturapathies

& physical medicines.

If symptom notes were taken in standard clinical practice (US-norm) the record

of uselessness & even damage would be simply too incriminating.

Never mind the sugar-stoned collective. What about the altered state, also

collective, & the errors in judgment, arising from serum & tissue levels of

industrial chemicals? Did you know that there are now even established " norms "

for these novel substances? How old do you think these new norms are?

Did you know that even the body-temperature norm has been recalibrated? Since

back in the 50s, the body-temperature " norm " is no longer pinpointed at 98.6.

It has been widened so as to " normalize " body temperature to a window at least 2

degrees lower. I know this from my mother's own lips; my own temperature has

read 96.xx ever since that time at least.

One might realize, by corollary, that a reading of 98.6 may then be a fever,

under these new standards, in some cases, of 2.6 degrees. " Standard practice "

does not really catch up with itself. For a licensed practitioner to deviate

from " standard practice " is to risk all, & the censure of the guild. Please

understand " Standard Practice " is itself required to be malpractice, having long

abandoned " ahimsa " or the principal of " First Do No Harm " .

NOTE: Deviation of 2.6 degrees is significant. For years, I ran a fever of 101

degrees, dismissed as " low grade " based on assumption that my normal was 98.6

which it had not been for years. So for years (with clearly elevated white

count) I ran a 4-degree fever without drawing remark from any of my licensed

so-called practitioners (with one remarkable exception).

So here we meet. We have " normalized " chronic toxic burdens and hypothyroidism,

lubricated by sugar & stimulants. All perfectly legal. These " altered states "

are seldom mentioned, although associated symptoms, including behavioral

alterations, are well known, and actually include pretty much all the phrenias,

as a class, & numerous other dysfunctions profitable to Pharma. Why are these

" altered states " & the toxicities they arise from, not made illegal?

& where does this put the story, for most people? Symptom-diaries are the

primary documentation & research tool among communities exploring natural

healing. It is this cumulative storytelling, a plurality of anecdote, that

forms an eventual consensus (a loamy conductivity) for everyday practicality &

social cohesion.

So there is a communal informality, an informally " informed messing around "

which long precedes formulation of hypothesis and formal application of the most

high & holy $cientific method. Might we even say that by definition

formalization is no longer in-formed? It is launched instead. At any rate,

these industrialized rituals arise late in the inquiry process and serve

primarily as promotion & sales, an elevation unto the marketplace threshhold,

the High Altar.

Historically the rise of commerce & commercial science is dated from the

founding of the Royal Academy of Science, the 17th Century being a time of Great

Error, the wrinkle that must be undone. It is a perfect clarity of commercial

goals & the early trading companies that spelled the end of epistemology as

magic, i.e., knowledge conferred privately.

But $cience is knowledge made public -- & proud of it. In an older view, it is

knowledge profaned i.e., predictably likely to be misused. Every swine chews

its pearl. We hardly remember what is sacred & resort to sentimentality in its

place.

Back to the Secrets of Serum & Soil ... the Sugars and the Metals as Poisons

actually are coupled. In a former time, " normal " in its turn, as recently as

among the Elizabethans, it was understood that a sweet tooth, a sugar craving

itself indicated likelihood of slow poisoning. The delightful classic " Follies,

Delusions & Madness of Crowds " (or similar) contains wonderful clinical detail

of the poisoning of a royal Tower of London prisoner (somebodyorother Leicester,

Rochester, or lover of the one or the other) who pined unto his end consumed by

a craving for sweets which came upon him only after his imprisonment.

This pioneering prisoner is now us, our new norm ... we are in the arms of

sugar/rum & slavery, spices & opiates, just as surely as were the Clipper

Tycoons. I'll settle for a pipe of chaga & my home-made chai, never quite the

same twice, never formalized.

As to use of mj, I would advise abstaining altogether unless/until one has

befriended the pancreas & mastered all craving for sweets. Some people should

never use it at all for just that reason.

Lab tests are expensive & pretty difficult to obtain under any insurance scheme.

An out-of-pocket expense for most of us (Life Extension I guess). So of course

one uses materials that come to hand. Just like ... if chocolate satisfies the

craving, there's a good likelihood of magnesium deficiency. Any craving or

aversion is information, use it.

Please forgive long rumination.

mgw

, Tony De Angelis <tntstuart

wrote:

>

> Thanks for this

>

> --- On Sun, 7/26/09, mgwest <marygwest wrote:

> Footnote on individual variance

> Sunday, July 26, 2009, 11:19 AM

>

> Dear Craig.

>

> In reality, with accelerating change during our lifetimes never-SNIPPED

July 28, 2009

A-plus on these comments. In some states the medical boards reserve the right to revoke the license of a medical doctor who prescribes thru the prsence of symptoms. They require that a specific numbered test parameter be treated by a prescribed type of drug or medical procedure. This is great for insurance billing and payments but shabby in terms of health management.

Regarding medical tests, routine blood and urine assays are very inexpensive and can be arranged on-line with major national labs. In my case, a 60-parameter blood report with a urine test can be obtained at a local lab for $99.

I am currently writing a "for Dummies" type of book on how to maintain medical records and understand blood test parameters so that a person can track their relative health quotient. I don't know if there is a market for this type of book, but it will be a benefit to my clients in trying to understand what affects their health. Do you believe there is a demand for this book or are people just willing to surrender their health to the type of care provided by insurance-driven medicine and the government?

Thanks again for your inputs.--- On Tue, 7/28/09, mgwest <marygwest wrote:

mgwest <marygwest individual variance ... a couple more thoughts Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:30 PM

Hello Tony.You are most welcome.A couple more thoughts on continuities & discontinuities from individual to individual especially in cumulative toxicities & deficiences.Most "altered states" are not subtle. An accumulated "body-burden" is not subtle at all. It is ascertainable, case-by-case, clinically, by measurement & sign, not mere subjective Sense Data (aka symptom). Symptom history itself has enough power (same weight as any declaration) that symptom-taking is abandoned in modern medical history-taking. Once part of standard practice, symptom-taking is now relegated to homeopathy & maybe the various naturapathies & physical medicines. If symptom notes were taken in standard clinical practice (US-norm) the record of uselessness & even damage would be simply too incriminating.Never mind the sugar-stoned collective. What about the

altered state, also collective, & the errors in judgment, arising from serum & tissue levels of industrial chemicals? Did you know that there are now even established "norms" for these novel substances? How old do you think these new norms are? Did you know that even the body-temperature norm has been recalibrated? Since back in the 50s, the body-temperature "norm" is no longer pinpointed at 98.6. It has been widened so as to "normalize" body temperature to a window at least 2 degrees lower. I know this from my mother's own lips; my own temperature has read 96.xx ever since that time at least.One might realize, by corollary, that a reading of 98.6 may then be a fever, under these new standards, in some cases, of 2.6 degrees. "Standard practice" does not really catch up with itself. For a licensed practitioner to deviate from "standard practice" is to risk all, & the censure of

the guild. Please understand "Standard Practice" is itself required to be malpractice, having long abandoned "ahimsa" or the principal of "First Do No Harm".NOTE: Deviation of 2.6 degrees is significant. For years, I ran a fever of 101 degrees, dismissed as "low grade" based on assumption that my normal was 98.6 which it had not been for years. So for years (with clearly elevated white count) I ran a 4-degree fever without drawing remark from any of my licensed so-called practitioners (with one remarkable exception).So here we meet. We have "normalized" chronic toxic burdens and hypothyroidism, lubricated by sugar & stimulants. All perfectly legal. These "altered states" are seldom mentioned, although associated symptoms, including behavioral alterations, are well known, and actually include pretty much all the phrenias, as a class, & numerous other dysfunctions profitable to

Pharma. Why are these "altered states" & the toxicities they arise from, not made illegal? & where does this put the story, for most people? Symptom-diaries are the primary documentation & research tool among communities exploring natural healing. It is this cumulative storytelling, a plurality of anecdote, that forms an eventual consensus (a loamy conductivity) for everyday practicality & social cohesion.. So there is a communal informality, an informally "informed messing around" which long precedes formulation of hypothesis and formal application of the most high & holy $cientific method. Might we even say that by definition formalization is no longer in-formed? It is launched instead. At any rate, these industrialized rituals arise late in the inquiry process and serve primarily as promotion & sales, an elevation unto the marketplace threshhold, the High

Altar.Historically the rise of commerce & commercial science is dated from the founding of the Royal Academy of Science, the 17th Century being a time of Great Error, the wrinkle that must be undone. It is a perfect clarity of commercial goals & the early trading companies that spelled the end of epistemology as magic, i.e., knowledge conferred privately. But $cience is knowledge made public -- & proud of it. In an older view, it is knowledge profaned i.e., predictably likely to be misused. Every swine chews its pearl. We hardly remember what is sacred & resort to sentimentality in its place.Back to the Secrets of Serum & Soil ... the Sugars and the Metals as Poisons actually are coupled. In a former time, "normal" in its turn, as recently as among the Elizabethans, it was understood that a sweet tooth, a sugar craving itself indicated likelihood of slow poisoning. The

delightful classic "Follies, Delusions & Madness of Crowds" (or similar) contains wonderful clinical detail of the poisoning of a royal Tower of London prisoner (somebodyorother Leicester, Rochester, or lover of the one or the other) who pined unto his end consumed by a craving for sweets which came upon him only after his imprisonment.This pioneering prisoner is now us, our new norm ... we are in the arms of sugar/rum & slavery, spices & opiates, just as surely as were the Clipper Tycoons. I'll settle for a pipe of chaga & my home-made chai, never quite the same twice, never formalized.As to use of mj, I would advise abstaining altogether unless/until one has befriended the pancreas & mastered all craving for sweets. Some people should never use it at all for just that reason. Lab tests are expensive & pretty difficult to obtain under any insurance scheme. An out-of-pocket expense

for most of us (Life Extension I guess). So of course one uses materials that come to hand. Just like ... if chocolate satisfies the craving, there's a good likelihood of magnesium deficiency. Any craving or aversion is information, use it.Please forgive long rumination.mgw , Tony De Angelis <tntstuart wrote:>> Thanks for this> > --- On Sun, 7/26/09, mgwest <marygwest wrote:> Footnote on individual variance> Sunday, July 26, 2009, 11:19 AM > > Dear Craig.> > In reality, with accelerating change during our lifetimes

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