Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Janes server? email is mucking up so I am sending this on her behalf. Clare please can you send this to the list for me NO, please do not take Calcium and more Calcium, take Magnesium - read up on Magnesium - this is what you need - as for acidity, study your diets and eat the foods that will give you the alkalinity you need to survive comfortably into old age - come on guys - wake upJane Re: baking sodaThe best way to increase ph, is the same way your body does it, CALCIUM and MORE CALCIUM. :)Osteo is prevelant in acidic bodies. Your body will rob it from the bone to try to correct the balance. Calcium deficiencies are a serious problem today. Just look at the symptoms of deficiency.We need several different types of calcium not just one. IONIC calcium can be obtained in bentonite healing clays, soft rock phosphate, raw grass fed ONLY Jersey milk....But calcium is the number one deficient mineral in foods or the ground, so do not count of getting it there. Learn to BRIX your gardens. Life and health begins in the soil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Do not stop at magnesium, the body can not heal without calcium nor can it rebuild correctly. It is why we do not heal properly. Wake up indeed!! Yvonne , " Clare MAIL " <theclaremcharris wrote: > > Janes server? email is mucking up so I am sending this on her behalf. > > Clare please can you send this to the list for me > > > NO, please do not take Calcium and more Calcium, take Magnesium - read up on > Magnesium - this is what you need - as for acidity, study your diets and eat > the foods that will give you the alkalinity you need to survive comfortably > into old age - come on guys - wake up > > Jane > > Re: baking soda > > > The best way to increase ph, is the same way your body does it, CALCIUM and > MORE CALCIUM. > Osteo is prevelant in acidic bodies. Your body will rob it from the bone to > try to correct the balance. Calcium deficiencies are a serious problem > today. Just look at the symptoms of deficiency. > We need several different types of calcium not just one. IONIC calcium can > be obtained in bentonite healing clays, soft rock phosphate, raw grass fed > ONLY Jersey milk.... > But calcium is the number one deficient mineral in foods or the ground, so > do not count of getting it there. Learn to BRIX your gardens. Life and > health begins in the soil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Check out the work of Dr. Mark Sircus. His first book is available inexpensively - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy. His more recent work is in e-book form and a bit pricey. Turns out many of us are calcium-toxic, not deficient. I was previously brainwashed into the Calcium Myth myself. Darla - food4tot Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:09 PM Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Do not stop at magnesium, the body can not heal without calcium nor can it rebuild correctly. It is why we do not heal properly. Wake up indeed!! :)Yvonne , "Clare MAIL" <theclaremcharris wrote:>> Janes server? email is mucking up so I am sending this on her behalf.> > Clare please can you send this to the list for me> > > NO, please do not take Calcium and more Calcium, take Magnesium - read up on > Magnesium - this is what you need - as for acidity, study your diets and eat > the foods that will give you the alkalinity you need to survive comfortably > into old age - come on guys - wake up> > Jane> > Re: baking soda> > > The best way to increase ph, is the same way your body does it, CALCIUM and > MORE CALCIUM. > Osteo is prevelant in acidic bodies. Your body will rob it from the bone to > try to correct the balance. Calcium deficiencies are a serious problem > today. Just look at the symptoms of deficiency.> We need several different types of calcium not just one. IONIC calcium can > be obtained in bentonite healing clays, soft rock phosphate, raw grass fed > ONLY Jersey milk....> But calcium is the number one deficient mineral in foods or the ground, so > do not count of getting it there. Learn to BRIX your gardens. Life and > health begins in the soil> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Does he tell you in this book what type of magnesium to take Darla? ~Amber ---- Check out the work of Dr. Mark Sircus. His first book is available inexpensively - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy. His more recent work is in e-book form and a bit pricey. Turns out many of us are calcium-toxic, not deficient. I was previously brainwashed into the Calcium Myth myself. Darla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Sorry for delay, behind on emails. Dr. Sircus recommends magnesium oil from the ocean, used transdermally. I just add it to our foot soaks and clay baths. I initially bought gallon jugs of the oil, but now I order nigari flakes. There may be a difference in quality, but we use a lot and I couldn't afford the higher price/shipping for the oil. I can't remember the exact name of the recommended product, but I remember buying it from Global Light. Darla - Stargazer Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:55 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Does he tell you in this book what type of magnesium to take Darla? ~Amber ---- Check out the work of Dr. Mark Sircus. His first book is available inexpensively - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy. His more recent work is in e-book form and a bit pricey. Turns out many of us are calcium-toxic, not deficient. I was previously brainwashed into the Calcium Myth myself. Darla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 All you have to do is leave it in the air for a few days and it turns onto 'oil'...--- On Sat, 4/18/09, Darla <dsstarkey wrote: Darla <dsstarkeyRe: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 4:15 PM Sorry for delay, behind on emails. Dr. Sircus recommends magnesium oil from the ocean, used transdermally. I just add it to our foot soaks and clay baths. I initially bought gallon jugs of the oil, but now I order nigari flakes. There may be a difference in quality, but we use a lot and I couldn't afford the higher price/shipping for the oil. I can't remember the exact name of the recommended product, but I remember buying it from Global Light. Darla - Stargazer Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:55 PM Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Does he tell you in this book what type of magnesium to take Darla? ~Amber -- -- Check out the work of Dr. Mark Sircus. His first book is available inexpensively - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy. His more recent work is in e-book form and a bit pricey. Turns out many of us are calcium-toxic, not deficient. I was previously brainwashed into the Calcium Myth myself. Darla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Thanks for the info Darla. I did find his book on Ebay and wanted to know before I bought it. All the products on Global Light are expensive. I'm going to search and see if I can find this or a comparable alternative cheaper. If so, I'll let you know :-) ~Amber ---- Darla 4/18/2009 4:20:34 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Sorry for delay, behind on emails. Dr. Sircus recommends magnesium oil from the ocean, used transdermally. I just add it to our foot soaks and clay baths. I initially bought gallon jugs of the oil, but now I order nigari flakes. There may be a difference in quality, but we use a lot and I couldn't afford the higher price/shipping for the oil. I can't remember the exact name of the recommended product, but I remember buying it from Global Light. Darla - Stargazer Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:55 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Does he tell you in this book what type of magnesium to take Darla? ~Amber ---- Check out the work of Dr. Mark Sircus. His first book is available inexpensively - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy. His more recent work is in e-book form and a bit pricey. Turns out many of us are calcium-toxic, not deficient. I was previously brainwashed into the Calcium Myth myself. Darla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Here is the place I last bought nigari. http://www.naturalimport.com/inc/sdetail/8220 I can't get the site to come up right now, so I'm not sure what page I'm sending you to. This was recommended as a good replacement product by someone who has done quite a bit of research on clay, silver and magnesium products. Darla - Stargazer Saturday, April 18, 2009 10:25 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Thanks for the info Darla. I did find his book on Ebay and wanted to know before I bought it. All the products on Global Light are expensive. I'm going to search and see if I can find this or a comparable alternative cheaper. If so, I'll let you know :-) ~Amber ---- Darla 4/18/2009 4:20:34 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Sorry for delay, behind on emails. Dr. Sircus recommends magnesium oil from the ocean, used transdermally. I just add it to our foot soaks and clay baths. I initially bought gallon jugs of the oil, but now I order nigari flakes. There may be a difference in quality, but we use a lot and I couldn't afford the higher price/shipping for the oil. I can't remember the exact name of the recommended product, but I remember buying it from Global Light. Darla - Stargazer Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:55 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Does he tell you in this book what type of magnesium to take Darla? ~Amber ---- Check out the work of Dr. Mark Sircus. His first book is available inexpensively - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy. His more recent work is in e-book form and a bit pricey. Turns out many of us are calcium-toxic, not deficient. I was previously brainwashed into the Calcium Myth myself. Darla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 My friend makes her own Magnesium oil - just adds Nagari until no more dissolves - to distilled water - well, not sure what water she uses Jane - Darla Sunday, April 19, 2009 1:07 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Here is the place I last bought nigari. http://www.naturalimport.com/inc/sdetail/8220 I can't get the site to come up right now, so I'm not sure what page I'm sending you to. This was recommended as a good replacement product by someone who has done quite a bit of research on clay, silver and magnesium products. Darla - Stargazer Saturday, April 18, 2009 10:25 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Thanks for the info Darla. I did find his book on Ebay and wanted to know before I bought it. All the products on Global Light are expensive. I'm going to search and see if I can find this or a comparable alternative cheaper. If so, I'll let you know :-) ~Amber ---- Darla 4/18/2009 4:20:34 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Sorry for delay, behind on emails. Dr. Sircus recommends magnesium oil from the ocean, used transdermally. I just add it to our foot soaks and clay baths. I initially bought gallon jugs of the oil, but now I order nigari flakes. There may be a difference in quality, but we use a lot and I couldn't afford the higher price/shipping for the oil. I can't remember the exact name of the recommended product, but I remember buying it from Global Light. Darla - Stargazer Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:55 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Does he tell you in this book what type of magnesium to take Darla? ~Amber ---- Check out the work of Dr. Mark Sircus. His first book is available inexpensively - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy. His more recent work is in e-book form and a bit pricey. Turns out many of us are calcium-toxic, not deficient. I was previously brainwashed into the Calcium Myth myself. Darla Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.0/2066 - Release 04/18/09 09:55:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Jane we make our own Mg Oil.... water? from our Pure Stream water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 You guys sure know how to make a simple thing complicated. Getting magnesium to absorb into the body is not this complicated.--- On Sun, 4/19/09, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote: Jane MacRoss <highfield1Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 8:16 AM My friend makes her own Magnesium oil - just adds Nagari until no more dissolves - to distilled water - well, not sure what water she uses Jane - Darla Sunday, April 19, 2009 1:07 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Here is the place I last bought nigari. http://www.naturalimport.com/inc/sdetail/8220 I can't get the site to come up right now, so I'm not sure what page I'm sending you to. This was recommended as a good replacement product by someone who has done quite a bit of research on clay, silver and magnesium products. Darla - Stargazer Saturday, April 18, 2009 10:25 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Thanks for the info Darla. I did find his book on Ebay and wanted to know before I bought it. All the products on Global Light are expensive. I'm going to search and see if I can find this or a comparable alternative cheaper. If so, I'll let you know :-) ~Amber -- -- Darla 4/18/2009 4:20:34 PM Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Sorry for delay, behind on emails. Dr. Sircus recommends magnesium oil from the ocean, used transdermally. I just add it to our foot soaks and clay baths. I initially bought gallon jugs of the oil, but now I order nigari flakes. There may be a difference in quality, but we use a lot and I couldn't afford the higher price/shipping for the oil. I can't remember the exact name of the recommended product, but I remember buying it from Global Light. Darla - Stargazer Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:55 PM Re: [Health_and_ Healing] Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Does he tell you in this book what type of magnesium to take Darla? ~Amber -- -- Check out the work of Dr. Mark Sircus. His first book is available inexpensively - Transdermal Magnesium Therapy. His more recent work is in e-book form and a bit pricey. Turns out many of us are calcium-toxic, not deficient. I was previously brainwashed into the Calcium Myth myself. Darla Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.0/2066 - Release 04/18/09 09:55:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Lovely - nice to have your own stream - oh - or is this a brand name? I use Noble's Pureau. Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Jane we make our own Mg Oil.... water? from our Pure Stream water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009  Hey being one of the people who used magnesium oil (home made) to help with cramps and aching muscles etc........... would you mind explaining for me how to make it simpler? I make it when we need it by dissolving magnesium flakes in water to saturation point. I thought that was pretty simple? Thanks Clare in Tassie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 High quality magnesium in capsules has worked for most of my clients and the quality -control is there.--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharris wrote: Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharrisRe: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 2:53 AM  Hey being one of the people who used magnesium oil (home made) to help with cramps and aching muscles etc............ would you mind explaining for me how to make it simpler? I make it when we need it by dissolving magnesium flakes in water to saturation point. I thought that was pretty simple? Thanks Clare in Tassie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009  OK Thanks Tony..... I do understand where you come from, but for me as well as wanting it on hand is the cost factor and the 'another pill' to swallow........... so there is nothing wrong with what I do? It works fantastically if I get (what I think you call) a Charlie Horse....... spasm at night in bed.... I just reach out to my bedside table and spray a bit onto my leg --- hey presto it is gone and I sleep like a baby. Cheer's from Clare in Tassie. High quality magnesium in capsules has worked for most of my clients and the quality -control is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Which brands are high quality that don't cause diarrhea Tony? ~Amber ---- Tony De Angelis 4/20/2009 3:23:22 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda High quality magnesium in capsules has worked for most of my clients and the quality -control is there.--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharris wrote: Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharrisRe: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 2:53 AM  Hey being one of the people who used magnesium oil (home made) to help with cramps and aching muscles etc............ would you mind explaining for me how to make it simpler? I make it when we need it by dissolving magnesium flakes in water to saturation point. I thought that was pretty simple? Thanks Clare in Tassie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Pots, pans, shelf life, reproducibility of ingredients, control of the source of the flakes, etc. Too many "issues" involved for me. If the use of caps and tablets presents a problem there are products like "Calm" and Mag Fizz. If making the mag oil is so simple, why have we had umpteen of these emails in the past few weeks? I guess there is a bit of alchemist in all of us!--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharris wrote: Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharrisRe: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 2:53 AM  Hey being one of the people who used magnesium oil (home made) to help with cramps and aching muscles etc............ would you mind explaining for me how to make it simpler? I make it when we need it by dissolving magnesium flakes in water to saturation point. I thought that was pretty simple? Thanks Clare in Tassie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Oxides and citrates dissociate rapidly and go quickly to the colon where they relax the colon wall and cause pooling of fluids - hence loose stools. Magnesium glycinate causes the least problems in this respect. There are many good brands out there. I usually like the ones that have the largest variety of chelates like orotates, aspartates, lysinates, taurinates, etc. The greater the varity of chelates the greater the absorption rate and the lower the dose required to achieve the desired effect. Albion brand chelates are considered the best in the industry. The addition of bioperine also increases absorption rate by up to 25% - a big deal in mineral absorption.--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Stargazer <Stargazer wrote: Stargazer <StargazerRe: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 9:10 PM Which brands are high quality that don't cause diarrhea Tony? ~Amber ---- Tony De Angelis 4/20/2009 3:23:22 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda High quality magnesium in capsules has worked for most of my clients and the quality -control is there.--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharris wrote: Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharrisRe: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 2:53 AM  Hey being one of the people who used magnesium oil (home made) to help with cramps and aching muscles etc............. would you mind explaining for me how to make it simpler? I make it when we need it by dissolving magnesium flakes in water to saturation point. I thought that was pretty simple? Thanks Clare in Tassie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Thank you for the info Tony. I needed to know the difference between them too. Would whole black peppercorns work for the bioprene? ~Amber ---- Tony De Angelis 4/20/2009 8:13:42 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Oxides and citrates dissociate rapidly and go quickly to the colon where they relax the colon wall and cause pooling of fluids - hence loose stools. Magnesium glycinate causes the least problems in this respect. There are many good brands out there. I usually like the ones that have the largest variety of chelates like orotates, aspartates, lysinates, taurinates, etc. The greater the varity of chelates the greater the absorption rate and the lower the dose required to achieve the desired effect. Albion brand chelates are considered the best in the industry. The addition of bioperine also increases absorption rate by up to 25% - a big deal in mineral absorption.--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Stargazer <Stargazer wrote: Stargazer <StargazerRe: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 9:10 PM Which brands are high quality that don't cause diarrhea Tony? ~Amber ---- Tony De Angelis 4/20/2009 3:23:22 PM Re: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda High quality magnesium in capsules has worked for most of my clients and the quality -control is there.--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharris wrote: Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharrisRe: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 2:53 AM  Hey being one of the people who used magnesium oil (home made) to help with cramps and aching muscles etc............. would you mind explaining for me how to make it simpler? I make it when we need it by dissolving magnesium flakes in water to saturation point. I thought that was pretty simple? Thanks Clare in Tassie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009  I have been looking into piperine / bioprene for a few months as it is currently being used by a few supplement companies including LEF. As I have severe 'gastric' issues and food sensitivities I am hanging back a while longer on trialing it. Interactions and Contraindications: http://www.questhealthlibrary.com/herbs/piperine Piperine has been shown to interfere with the metabolism of certain medications which may delay their breakdown and enhance any side-effects. This study was designed to evaluate the effectiveness of piperine on the bioavailability of drugs such as vasicine (brain stimulant) and sparteine (used to induce labour by stimulating the contraction of the womb). Long pepper was used in the study and blood samples were taken after consumption of both the drug and long pepper. Under the influence of piperine, which is the active ingredient in long pepper, sparteine blood levels increased more than 100%. It is thought that this increase in bioavailability was achieved by promoting rapid absorption from the gastrointestinal tract, or by protecting the drug from being metabolised/oxidised in its first passage through the liver after being absorbed, or by a combination of both. (5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Hi, Clare. I've taken capsules with Bioperine in them and it only causes trouble for me when the capsule dissolves in my throat. Then it burns for a while which is unpleasant. Hugh "Clare@GOOGLE MAIL" <theclaremcharris Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:18:31 AMRe: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda  I have been looking into piperine / bioprene for a few months as it is currently being used by a few supplement companies including LEF. As I have severe 'gastric' issues and food sensitivities I am hanging back a while longer on trialing it. Interactions and Contraindications: http://www.questhea lthlibrary. com/herbs/ piperine Piperine has been shown to interfere with the metabolism of certain medications which may delay their breakdown and enhance any side-effects. This study was designed to evaluate the effectiveness of piperine on the bioavailability of drugs such as vasicine (brain stimulant) and sparteine (used to induce labour by stimulating the contraction of the womb). Long pepper was used in the study and blood samples were taken after consumption of both the drug and long pepper. Under the influence of piperine, which is the active ingredient in long pepper, sparteine blood levels increased more than 100%. It is thought that this increase in bioavailability was achieved by promoting rapid absorption from the gastrointestinal tract, or by protecting the drug from being metabolised/ oxidised in its first passage through the liver after being absorbed, or by a combination of both. (5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009  Thanks for your input Hugh it is appreciated. The very thought that something as simple as this could 'enhance' the action of some minerals etc is wonderful. Tiz just that most things I take aggravate my gut and I cannot take anything in the capsicum/pepper/curry/line and I have even had to lower my cinnamon and turmeric because of stomach issues. Tony said there were magnesium capsules of great quality, but I am reticient to take any other pills and potions internally at present. Using the magnesium ? transdermally works for my situation. I shall keep learning about the pipperine. Ta again Clare in Tassie Hi, Clare. I've taken capsules with Bioperine in them and it only causes trouble for me when the capsule dissolves in my throat. Then it burns for a while which is unpleasant. Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009  Hello Amber I found the following which may answer your question.... I am still learning about it myself. Clare in Tasmania http://www.cochranfoundation.com/reports/piperin.htm Because black pepper and Piperine are not identical, one having to be processed by several steps in a laboratory, the same effects cannot be achieved by merely increasing ones use of the black pepper spice. Instead, purified Piperine extract is needed to ensure that the bioavailability enhancing properties are utilized for the right and appropriate nutrient absorption levels as when you were younger. Thank you for the info Tony. I needed to know the difference between them too. Would whole black peppercorns work for the bioprene? ~Amber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Hi Amber. Clare's answer is perfectly correct.--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharris wrote: Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharrisRe: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 6:08 AM  Hello Amber I found the following which may answer your question.... I am still learning about it myself. Clare in Tasmania http://www.cochranfoundation.com/reports/piperin.htm Because black pepper and Piperine are not identical, one having to be processed by several steps in a laboratory, the same effects cannot be achieved by merely increasing ones use of the black pepper spice. Instead, purified Piperine extract is needed to ensure that the bioavailability enhancing properties are utilized for the right and appropriate nutrient absorption levels as when you were younger. Thank you for the info Tony. I needed to know the difference between them too. Would whole black peppercorns work for the bioprene? ~Amber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 I also have 'issues' with any of the peppers but the bioperine does not bother me. It is simply a quantitative problem depending on the indivual's sensitivity or allergy to an ingredient. If one has stomach issues they need to avoid bioperine until a mineral issue is resolved and try a biperine-enhanced supplement later - if they dare!--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharris wrote: Clare@GOOGLE MAIL <theclaremcharrisRe: Fw: Calcium needs was Re: Baking Soda Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 3:18 AM  I have been looking into piperine / bioprene for a few months as it is currently being used by a few supplement companies including LEF. As I have severe 'gastric' issues and food sensitivities I am hanging back a while longer on trialing it. Interactions and Contraindications: http://www.questhealthlibrary.com/herbs/piperine Piperine has been shown to interfere with the metabolism of certain medications which may delay their breakdown and enhance any side-effects. This study was designed to evaluate the effectiveness of piperine on the bioavailability of drugs such as vasicine (brain stimulant) and sparteine (used to induce labour by stimulating the contraction of the womb). Long pepper was used in the study and blood samples were taken after consumption of both the drug and long pepper. Under the influence of piperine, which is the active ingredient in long pepper, sparteine blood levels increased more than 100%. It is thought that this increase in bioavailability was achieved by promoting rapid absorption from the gastrointestinal tract, or by protecting the drug from being metabolised/oxidised in its first passage through the liver after being absorbed, or by a combination of both. (5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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