Reposting this emergency video, please watch and pass on

[Guest guest]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSV7jVOjIwQ

This video contains some important information that I believe everyone

should know about. Please don't just watch this video and leave it at

that. Do some research yourself into the topics raised in this video. If

the witness account given in this video is true then it is extremely

worrying and we should all be asking serious questions about what is

going on here.

Below is a message from EarthLastHope who originally posted this video

earlier today:

" It is 3:41 in the morning, again I find myself without sleep. Can

you think why? This video will explain now the sad HORRIBLE! connection I

have just found, for any shills and skeptics, you may doubt now, but soon

you will be dead in one of these. THIS IS VERY REAL! I WILL HAVE MORE

VIDEOS ABOUT IT AS SOON AS I CAN! I wouldnt be suprised if my account is

taken down after this series. REUPLOAD THIS VIDEO AND ALL OTHERS BUT

MAINLY THIS VIDEO AND THE FEW FOLLOWING AFTER IT! THESE TRAINS ARE

OUTSIDE MY TOWN, AND MANY MANY OTHERS AND I NOW KNOW WHY!!!!!! "

---EarthLastHope

This site below is updated " Daily " and deals specifically with

the Bird Flu issue and other viruses that are spread throughout the

world. As of today, it looks like Egypt has had 64 cases of the Human

Kind of Flu.

Here is the link:

 

http://pandemicinformationnews.blogsp...

This Govt site relating to Pandemic and trucking is VERY

interesting:

 

http://www.pandemicflu.gov/health/car...

Please comment, rate, fave and share this video with as many people as

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evidence is stacking up and we can't just sit by and do nothing. Please

help spread this video far and wide.

 

 

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Would someone please explain to me the logic behind the concept that a government would want to kill all of its citizens? Most governments want more people, as workers and slaves to create commerce. Many governments actually pay a lot of money for women to have more children, with 100% pay for up to two years time for pregnancy. I agree they don't want them to be intelligent and free thinkers, or 'loose canons' as the US State Dept calls me, but I really can't buy the argument they want the population dead.

If the US didn't need 13 million more workers in the last decade, they could have easily built a fence along the Mexican border, many years ago and cheaply. THEY DON'T.  Why? Because they needed the cheap labor.

So now we are asked to believe that the government is trying to kill us all with chem trails and bird flu? The idiot running along side a train of car carriers is laughable. The auto industry is in the toilet. Car carriers have to be parked somewhere on some railroad sidetrack as they have no cars to carry.

Some one could have done the same film with ore cars when JR Simplot Co. shut down its fertilizer plant and the thousands of ore cores sat idle on railroad sidings.  One could have filmed them and claimed they were there to carry away the dead bodies to be burned in the idle smelters from the fertilizer plant. I actually hesitate to mention this stupid scenario as it will probably get recycled into someones new disaster video as the truth.

What I have studied on chem trails, and I check out a lot of the posts and sites, just in case there is some thread of truth somewhere, is that this is the stupidest method for poisoning the people of the planet ever. There are hundreds of cheaper and easier ways to do it. Wouldn't it be much simpler to put something in McDonald's french fries, and bang, 15 million are exposed in one day.  All it would take is one person to load a chemical into the blanching tank at the frozen french fry company that makes them all.

Why it appears there are more contrails in the sky; our planet is slowly warming and the number one greenhouse gas is not carbon, but water. So there is more water vapor in the air than ever before, hence more contrails. It is a great reach of imagination to believe that some government would go to the cost of putting chemicals in the air. The next argument is that it would not be selective and those in power would never harm their own kin. While in french fries it would easier to warn kin not to eat french fries.

I could go on and I have refrained from arguing on this site over these crazy items that get posted all the time. As I enjoy the advice and help for trying to stay healthy the natural way. If you are worried about bird flu, then beef up your immune system. Take Pau d' Arco or Black Cumin or both. Then relax. You know you are immune if the common cold doesn't get you down and you feel your body fighting it off easily without harm.

CraigOn Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Hanneke <blosshan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSV7jVOjIwQ

This video contains some important information that I believe everyone

should know about. Please don't just watch this video and leave it at

that. Do some research yourself into the topics raised in this video. If

the witness account given in this video is true then it is extremely

worrying and we should all be asking serious questions about what is

going on here.

Below is a message from EarthLastHope who originally posted this video

earlier today:

" It is 3:41 in the morning, again I find myself without sleep. Can

you think why? This video will explain now the sad HORRIBLE! connection I

have just found, for any shills and skeptics, you may doubt now, but soon

you will be dead in one of these. THIS IS VERY REAL! I WILL HAVE MORE

VIDEOS ABOUT IT AS SOON AS I CAN! I wouldnt be suprised if my account is

taken down after this series. REUPLOAD THIS VIDEO AND ALL OTHERS BUT

MAINLY THIS VIDEO AND THE FEW FOLLOWING AFTER IT! THESE TRAINS ARE

OUTSIDE MY TOWN, AND MANY MANY OTHERS AND I NOW KNOW WHY!!!!!! "

---EarthLastHope

This site below is updated " Daily " and deals specifically with

the Bird Flu issue and other viruses that are spread throughout the

world. As of today, it looks like Egypt has had 64 cases of the Human

Kind of Flu.

Here is the link:

 

http://pandemicinformationnews.blogsp...

This Govt site relating to Pandemic and trucking is VERY

interesting:

 

http://www.pandemicflu.gov/health/car...

Please comment, rate, fave and share this video with as many people as

you can on YouTube, MySpace, Facebook, Digg, LiveVideo, DailyMotion,

BlipTv... the whole lot. We need to keep people informed of what is

happening. I hope the witness account in this video is not true, but the

evidence is stacking up and we can't just sit by and do nothing. Please

help spread this video far and wide.

 

 

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According to the NWO, the planet is over populated. In their

books, this planet can only sustain 500 million. We are only useless

eaters (sorry, I forget who is claimed to have said that, it was either

Kissinger or Rockefeller). They have taken control of the water

supply, control of health care for a very large part, controlling

the money supply, a great deal of control of the printed media is in

their hands, the Internet is not far away either. The electricity

grids, the telecommunication grids...

I am sure you have heard of Agenda 21? If not, please

try and find a lecture by Michael Shaw, with introduction by Stanley

Monteith. '..Speaking about Agenda 21'.

 

It is all too bizarre but fact is fact: thousands upon thousands are

losing their jobs, are losing their homes and that trend is only

continuing, not easing.

Have you got an explanation as to why they engineered this economic and

financial collapse? This is not me saying this. This is being

said by many well known economists including those directly involved in

Wall Street.

Have you got an explanation for why they go door to door in Chicago

checking if the children have been vaccinated? Other cities in Florida

have reported the same. There are probably more. Like a witch

hunt?

Have you got an explanation as to why they are preparing mass

graves and expanding grave sites beyond any reasonable

proportion?

I mean, the documentation for all this is present, it is not made

up. The documentation is there just not a logical

explanation.

Who understands any of what they are doing Craig?

Whatever is ahead of us, it's important for each to have one's spiritual

house in order.

Hanneke

 

At 05:54 PM 13/04/2009, you wrote:

 

Would someone please explain to

me the logic behind the concept that a government would want to kill all

of its citizens? Most governments want more people, as workers and slaves

to create commerce. Many governments actually pay a lot of money for

women to have more children, with 100% pay for up to two years time for

pregnancy. I agree they don't want them to be intelligent and free

thinkers, or 'loose canons' as the US State Dept calls me, but I really

can't buy the argument they want the population dead.

 

If the US didn't need 13 million more workers in the last decade, they

could have easily built a fence along the Mexican border, many years ago

and cheaply. THEY DON'T. Why? Because they needed the cheap labor.

 

So now we are asked to believe that the government is trying to kill us

all with chem trails and bird flu?

The idiot running along side a train of car carriers is laughable. The

auto industry is in the toilet. Car carriers have to be parked somewhere

on some railroad sidetrack as they have no cars to carry.

Some one could have done the same film with ore cars when JR Simplot Co.

shut down its fertilizer plant and the thousands of ore cores sat idle on

railroad sidings. One could have filmed them and claimed they were

there to carry away the dead bodies to be burned in the idle smelters

from the fertilizer plant. I actually hesitate to mention this stupid

scenario as it will probably get recycled into someones new disaster

video as the truth.

What I have studied on chem trails, and I check out a lot of the posts

and sites, just in case there is some thread of truth somewhere, is that

this is the stupidest method for poisoning the people of the planet ever.

There are hundreds of cheaper and easier ways to do it. Wouldn't it be

much simpler to put something in McDonald's french fries, and bang, 15

million are exposed in one day. All it would take is one person to

load a chemical into the blanching tank at the frozen french fry company

that makes them all.

Why it appears there are more contrails in the sky; our planet is slowly

warming and the number one greenhouse gas is not carbon, but water. So

there is more water vapor in the air than ever before, hence more

contrails. It is a great reach of imagination to believe that some

government would go to the cost of putting chemicals in the air. The next

argument is that it would not be selective and those in power would never

harm their own kin. While in french fries it would easier to warn kin not

to eat french fries.

I could go on and I have refrained from arguing on this site over these

crazy items that get posted all the time. As I enjoy the advice and help

for trying to stay healthy the natural way.

If you are worried about bird flu, then beef up your immune system. Take

Pau d' Arco or Black Cumin or both. Then relax. You know you are immune

if the common cold doesn't get you down and you feel your body fighting

it off easily without harm.

 

Craig

 

 

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Hanneke

<

blosshan wrote:

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSV7jVOjIwQ

This video contains some important information that I believe

everyone should know about. Please don't just watch this video and leave

it at that. Do some research yourself into the topics raised in this

video. If the witness account given in this video is true then it is

extremely worrying and we should all be asking serious questions about

what is going on here.

Below is a message from EarthLastHope who originally posted this

video earlier today:

" It is 3:41 in the morning, again I find myself without sleep.

Can you think why? This video will explain now the sad HORRIBLE!

connection I have just found, for any shills and skeptics, you may doubt

now, but soon you will be dead in one of these. THIS IS VERY REAL! I WILL

HAVE MORE VIDEOS ABOUT IT AS SOON AS I CAN! I wouldnt be suprised if my

account is taken down after this series. REUPLOAD THIS VIDEO AND ALL

OTHERS BUT MAINLY THIS VIDEO AND THE FEW FOLLOWING AFTER IT! THESE TRAINS

ARE OUTSIDE MY TOWN, AND MANY MANY OTHERS AND I NOW KNOW

WHY!!!!!! "

---EarthLastHope

This site below is updated " Daily " and deals specifically

with the Bird Flu issue and other viruses that are spread throughout the

world. As of today, it looks like Egypt has had 64 cases of the Human

Kind of Flu.

Here is the link:

 

http://pandemicinformationnews.blogsp...

This Govt site relating to Pandemic and trucking is VERY

interesting:

 

http://www.pandemicflu.gov/health/car...

Please comment, rate, fave and share this video with as many people

as you can on YouTube, MySpace, Facebook, Digg, LiveVideo, DailyMotion,

BlipTv... the whole lot. We need to keep people informed of what is

happening. I hope the witness account in this video is not true, but the

evidence is stacking up and we can't just sit by and do nothing. Please

help spread this video far and wide.

 

 

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According to the NWO,  the planet is over populated.  In their

books, this planet can only sustain 500 million.

I disagree with this premise. When the planet had only a few hundred thousand people, there were pockets of poverty and starvation as the cycles dictated. Now we have 7 billion and still have the same pockets. When we have 25 billion it will still be the same. By the time we reach 50 billion we will have at least 2 billion living on other planets. We have vast areas and resources to support billions more easily. Five billion alone could live across Siberia.

 

It is all too bizarre but fact is fact: thousands upon thousands are

losing their jobs, are losing their homes and that trend is only

continuing, not easing.  

It is only temporary and will be back to normal in a few years time.

 

Have you got an explanation as to why they engineered this economic and

financial  collapse?  This is not me saying this. This is being

said by many well known economists including those directly involved in

Wall Street.Yes I do. This is one of my favorite subjects. I have been speaking out about how this entire recession was pre-engineered since last October when it hit me. I was listening to the speech by Rice in Tbilisi when she said in regards to Russia's provocation and raid into Georgia, " Russia will pay a big price for this. " I wondered at the time if she had a bomb in her purse?

Briefly my points are: (I can give more detail and quotes from any point if you desire) (note: You can use the word G7 in place of US as I do not think the US acts alone anymore, they cannot do what they are doing without the help of the entire G7 and Saudi Arabia and a few other countries like the Vatican, which is a part of the G7 through their Italian representation.)

1. The US needed to fix the sub-prime mortgage problem, it was started by Clinton and carried on by Bush without fixing it. 2. The US needed to fix the problem of lack of regulation of the investment banks that were given Carte Blanche to do as they pleased, creating all kinds of messy derivatives that regulators couldn't understand, let alone regulate.

3. The US wants to create world peace, believe it or not, it is the only way to keep control. Russia is selling too many arms and ammunition to threatening third world countries. The US doesn't like the way Putin formed, so he has to go. Regime change has happened twice in Russia in the last two decades and it was all caused by a major downturn in the economy,. read LOW oil prices. In 1988 the price was pushed down to 14 USD a barrel and the USSR collapesed in 1990. In 1998, oil was pushed down again and the resulting regime change got us a new dictator, instead of a west leaning democracy that wanted to play nice in the sandbox of the world.

4. China refuses to float the huan and keeps its prices artificial, and the US has become its biggest trading partner over the last 30 years. 5. China is building bigger and bigger military might, still wants to control Taiwan and is putting more weaponry on the coastline. It is a big threat to peace and a drop in world economics will curtail their spending on military hardware.

5. HK is a loose canon and needs to be stopped, before it proflierates more nuclear weapons. 6. Iran is a loose canon and needs to be stopped, before it proflierates more nuclear weapons. 7. The spread of Islam needs to be put in check as they end up forcing sharia law in places when they get enough inhabitants in a country.

The solution to all of these problems is a world wide recession, with the G7 picking and choosing which companies survive and giving loans to select countries. Watch what happens when Russia runs out of its foreign reserves. It is bleeding to the tune of 20 billion a month and will be broke later this year. If it gets a loan from the IMF or the Paris Club, it will only be tied to regime change or massive other changes. Russia's biggest threat is not the US or the departing Eastern Block countries into the EU, but to Islam which is penetrating deep into their territory. Check out the new big Mosque in Kazan. Towers over everything there. Be sure and note the location of Kazan to Moscow. Do you think that the Muslims want to get revenge for all the killing at the hands of the Russians from Afghanistan to Beslan?

The US and G7 cannot do much without having a crisis. Specifically the US cannot make changes unless there is a crisis situation. So they created it.  

  Who understands any of what they are doing Craig?

We can only guess, like my theory of G7 preplanned economic recession, is only an educated guess.

 

Whatever is ahead of us, it's important for each to have one's spiritual

house in order. I am happy and content. I have lived a full and eventful life for almost 62 years and if I were to be wiped out tomorrow by a metorite, bird flu or bomb, I would die a happy man. Craig

 

..

[Guest guest]

At 07:26 PM 13/04/2009, you wrote:

 

According to the NWO, the

planet is over populated. In their books, this planet can only

sustain 500 million.

 

I disagree with this premise. When the planet had only a few hundred

thousand people, there were pockets of poverty and starvation as the

cycles dictated. Now we have 7 billion and still have the same pockets.

When we have 25 billion it will still be the same. By the time we reach

50 billion we will have at least 2 billion living on other planets. We

have vast areas and resources to support billions more easily. Five

billion alone could live across Siberia.

I agree with you on the population bit.

It is their thinking about 500 million, not mine. And it is

they who are holding the strings!!

 

 

 

It is all too bizarre but fact is fact: thousands upon thousands are

losing their jobs, are losing their homes and that trend is only

continuing, not easing.

 

 

It is only temporary and will be back to normal in a few years

time.

 

According to those in the know, economists and

other specialised in the field, the prediction is that it will take up to

15 years if not longer, a bit more than 'a few years'. Again,

that's the train of thought of those who have seen this coming as a

result of the looting that has occurred and is still brewing. (The

credit card crisis is next)

 

 

 

Have you got an explanation as to why they engineered this economic

and financial collapse? This is not me saying this. This is

being said by many well known economists including those directly

involved in Wall Street.

 

Yes I do. This is one of my favorite subjects. I have been speaking out

about how this entire recession was pre-engineered since last October

when it hit me. I was listening to the speech by Rice in Tbilisi when she

said in regards to Russia's provocation and raid into Georgia, "

Russia will pay a big price for this. " I wondered at the time if she

had a bomb in her purse?

Briefly my points are: (I can give more detail and quotes from any point

if you desire) (note: You can use the word G7 in place of US as I do not

think the US acts alone anymore, they cannot do what they are doing

without the help of the entire G7 and Saudi Arabia and a few other

countries like the Vatican, which is a part of the G7 through their

Italian representation.)

1. The US needed to fix the sub-prime mortgage problem, it was started by

Clinton and carried on by Bush without fixing it.

2. The US needed to fix the problem of lack of regulation of the

investment banks that were given Carte Blanche to do as they pleased,

creating all kinds of messy derivatives that regulators couldn't

understand, let alone regulate.

3. The US wants to create world peace, believe it or not, it is the only

way to keep control. Russia is selling too many arms and ammunition to

threatening third world countries. The US doesn't like the way Putin

formed, so he has to go. Regime change has happened twice in Russia in

the last two decades and it was all caused by a major downturn in the

economy,. read LOW oil prices. In 1988 the price was pushed down to 14

USD a barrel and the USSR collapesed in 1990. In 1998, oil was pushed

down again and the resulting regime change got us a new dictator, instead

of a west leaning democracy that wanted to play nice in the sandbox of

the world.

4. China refuses to float the huan and keeps its prices artificial, and

the US has become its biggest trading partner over the last 30 years.

 

5. China is building bigger and bigger military might, still wants to

control Taiwan and is putting more weaponry on the coastline. It is a big

threat to peace and a drop in world economics will curtail their spending

on military hardware.

5. HK is a loose canon and needs to be stopped, before it proflierates

more nuclear weapons.

6. Iran is a loose canon and needs to be stopped, before it proflierates

more nuclear weapons.

7. The spread of Islam needs to be put in check as they end up forcing

sharia law in places when they get enough inhabitants in a country.

 

The solution to all of these problems is a world wide recession, with the

G7 picking and choosing which companies survive and giving loans to

select countries. Watch what happens when Russia runs out of its foreign

reserves. It is bleeding to the tune of 20 billion a month and will be

broke later this year. If it gets a loan from the IMF or the Paris Club,

it will only be tied to regime change or massive other changes. Russia's

biggest threat is not the US or the departing Eastern Block countries

into the EU, but to Islam which is penetrating deep into their territory.

Check out the new big Mosque in Kazan. Towers over everything there. Be

sure and note the location of Kazan to Moscow. Do you think that the

Muslims want to get revenge for all the killing at the hands of the

Russians from Afghanistan to Beslan?

The US and G7 cannot do much without having a crisis. Specifically the US

cannot make changes unless there is a crisis situation. So they created

it.

I understand your take on the G7/G20,

regarding US and wanting peace etc etc. I just have a different

understanding of what is happening.

True, it is not the US who is acting on its own, it hasn't

been since the 60's, if not a decade earlier... this has been in the

making for decades. Bush Sr spoke about this openly on Sept

11 1991 but paperwork has been floating around about a world

government (which is in my mind not a matter of wanting peace but just

sheer power) from the early 70's.

The Bilderberg group made up of many influential heads of state,

bankers, and other elitists/Illuminati residing all over the world who

are meeting once a year discussing the future of the world. The CFR, made

up of representatives of the corporate world from all over the world, the

Club of Rome..

to cut a long story short: ' it is a big club and 'we ain't in

it'

It gives little hope to see how they USE people as fodder in wars and

more wars (at the moment more than 71,000 troops already in Afghanistan.

That's not what you read in mainstream news btw).

We the people are just stupid.. Henry Kissinger said it far more flowery,

in such an offensive way you'd want to puke.

 

 

 

Who understands any of what they are doing Craig?

 

We can only guess, like my theory of G7 preplanned economic recession, is

only an educated guess.

 

Whatever is ahead of us, it's important for each to have one's

spiritual house in order.

I am happy and content. I have lived a full and eventful life

for almost 62 years and if I were to be wiped out tomorrow by a metorite,

bird flu or bomb, I would die a happy man. Craig

 

Good to read that you can look back with peace of mind and a

happiness in your heart.

I just wish for my own children and grand children to be able to do the

same.Our children and grand children are the future. I am not concerned

about me.

Hanneke

 

 

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" I disagree with this premise. When the planet had only a few hundred thousand

people, there were pockets of poverty and starvation as the cycles dictated "

 

You cannot know this.

The world ahead will not be like this one

Either we,the people, win

or

complete enslavement

and what will you do

when the work you must do to live

is administration of a FEMA camp

Do you think these camps have some benign design?

Do you think the militzation of police aroumd the world is happenstance?

How many are needed to tend the elite?

They say 500 million.

and they've been at this a long time.

 

They tell us and have told us before what they are goimg to do.

We pishaw and arguee and discuss and research

and they carry out the plot.

 

" For we are the actors,and when we act,you may study it judiciously, as you will

, and while you are doing that-we will act again. "

Just think how many " scientest " (whores) are working on exotic flus.

Why?

 

 

 

 

, Hanneke <blosshan wrote:

>

> At 07:26 PM 13/04/2009, you wrote:

>

>

> >According to the NWO, the planet is over populated. In their

> >books, this planet can only sustain 500 million.

> >

> >I disagree with this premise. When the planet had only a few hundred

> >thousand people, there were pockets of poverty and starvation as the

> >cycles dictated. Now we have 7 billion and still have the same

> >pockets. When we have 25 billion it will still be the same. By the

> >time we reach 50 billion we will have at least 2 billion living on

> >other planets. We have vast areas and resources to support billions

> >more easily. Five billion alone could live across Siberia.

> >I agree with you on the population bit. It is their thinking about

> >500 million, not mine. And it is they who are holding the strings!!

>

>

> >It is all too bizarre but fact is fact: thousands upon thousands are

> >losing their jobs, are losing their homes and that trend is only

> >continuing, not easing.

> >

> >It is only temporary and will be back to normal in a few years time.

>

> According to those in the know, economists and other specialised in

> the field, the prediction is that it will take up to 15 years if not

> longer, a bit more than 'a few years'. Again, that's the train of

> thought of those who have seen this coming as a result of

> the looting that has occurred and is still brewing. (The credit card

> crisis is next)

>

>

> >Have you got an explanation as to why they engineered this economic

> >and financial collapse? This is not me saying this. This is being

> >said by many well known economists including those directly involved

> >in Wall Street.

> >

> >

> >Yes I do. This is one of my favorite subjects. I have been speaking

> >out about how this entire recession was pre-engineered since last

> >October when it hit me. I was listening to the speech by Rice in

> >Tbilisi when she said in regards to Russia's provocation and raid

> >into Georgia, " Russia will pay a big price for this. " I wondered at

> >the time if she had a bomb in her purse?

> >

> >Briefly my points are: (I can give more detail and quotes from any

> >point if you desire) (note: You can use the word G7 in place of US

> >as I do not think the US acts alone anymore, they cannot do what

> >they are doing without the help of the entire G7 and Saudi Arabia

> >and a few other countries like the Vatican, which is a part of the

> >G7 through their Italian representation.)

> >

> >1. The US needed to fix the sub-prime mortgage problem, it was

> >started by Clinton and carried on by Bush without fixing it.

> >2. The US needed to fix the problem of lack of regulation of the

> >investment banks that were given Carte Blanche to do as they

> >pleased, creating all kinds of messy derivatives that regulators

> >couldn't understand, let alone regulate.

> >3. The US wants to create world peace, believe it or not, it is the

> >only way to keep control. Russia is selling too many arms and

> >ammunition to threatening third world countries. The US doesn't like

> >the way Putin formed, so he has to go. Regime change has happened

> >twice in Russia in the last two decades and it was all caused by a

> >major downturn in the economy,. read LOW oil prices. In 1988 the

> >price was pushed down to 14 USD a barrel and the USSR collapesed in

> >1990. In 1998, oil was pushed down again and the resulting regime

> >change got us a new dictator, instead of a west leaning democracy

> >that wanted to play nice in the sandbox of the world.

> >4. China refuses to float the huan and keeps its prices artificial,

> >and the US has become its biggest trading partner over the last 30 years.

> >5. China is building bigger and bigger military might, still wants

> >to control Taiwan and is putting more weaponry on the coastline. It

> >is a big threat to peace and a drop in world economics will curtail

> >their spending on military hardware.

> >5. HK is a loose canon and needs to be stopped, before it

> >proflierates more nuclear weapons.

> >6. Iran is a loose canon and needs to be stopped, before it

> >proflierates more nuclear weapons.

> >7. The spread of Islam needs to be put in check as they end up

> >forcing sharia law in places when they get enough inhabitants in a country.

> >

> >The solution to all of these problems is a world wide recession,

> >with the G7 picking and choosing which companies survive and giving

> >loans to select countries. Watch what happens when Russia runs out

> >of its foreign reserves. It is bleeding to the tune of 20 billion a

> >month and will be broke later this year. If it gets a loan from the

> >IMF or the Paris Club, it will only be tied to regime change or

> >massive other changes. Russia's biggest threat is not the US or the

> >departing Eastern Block countries into the EU, but to Islam which is

> >penetrating deep into their territory. Check out the new big Mosque

> >in Kazan. Towers over everything there. Be sure and note the

> >location of Kazan to Moscow. Do you think that the Muslims want to

> >get revenge for all the killing at the hands of the Russians from

> >Afghanistan to Beslan?

> >

> >The US and G7 cannot do much without having a crisis. Specifically

> >the US cannot make changes unless there is a crisis situation. So

> >they created it.

>

> I understand your take on the G7/G20, regarding US and wanting

> peace etc etc. I just have a different understanding of what is happening.

> True, it is not the US who is acting on its own, it hasn't been

> since the 60's, if not a decade earlier... this has been in the

> making for decades. Bush Sr spoke about this openly on Sept 11 1991

> but paperwork has been floating around about a world government

> (which is in my mind not a matter of wanting peace but just sheer

> power) from the early 70's.

> The Bilderberg group made up of many influential heads of state,

> bankers, and other elitists/Illuminati residing all over the world

> who are meeting once a year discussing the future of the world. The

> CFR, made up of representatives of the corporate world from all over

> the world, the Club of Rome..

> to cut a long story short: ' it is a big club and 'we ain't in it'

>

> It gives little hope to see how they USE people as fodder in wars and

> more wars (at the moment more than 71,000 troops already in

> Afghanistan. That's not what you read in mainstream news btw).

> We the people are just stupid.. Henry Kissinger said it far more

> flowery, in such an offensive way you'd want to puke.

>

>

> > Who understands any of what they are doing Craig?

> >

> >We can only guess, like my theory of G7 preplanned economic

> >recession, is only an educated guess.

> >

> >Whatever is ahead of us, it's important for each to have one's

> >spiritual house in order.

> > I am happy and content. I have lived a full and eventful life for

> > almost 62 years and if I were to be wiped out tomorrow by a

> > metorite, bird flu or bomb, I would die a happy man. Craig

>

>

> Good to read that you can look back with peace of mind and a

> happiness in your heart.

> I just wish for my own children and grand children to be able to do

> the same.Our children and grand children are the future. I am not

> concerned about me.

>

> Hanneke

>

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[Guest guest]

-It helps to consider maybe its not our government.Most politicians and fortune

500 executives are members of a greek fraternity and as such share secret

goals.Big government and big business share secret goals.Currently there seems

to be communism and facism in charge,more so facism.Now both big bussiness and

big government offer employee funded pension plans so it would be financialy of

benefit to shorten the life spans so as to maybe put the trust funds into a

slush fund or other worhty cause.

 

-- In , Craig Rawlings <craig wrote:

>

> Would someone please explain to me the logic behind the concept that a

> government would want to kill all of its citizens? Most governments want

> more people, as workers and slaves to create commerce. Many governments

> actually pay a lot of money for women to have more children, with 100% pay

> for up to two years time for pregnancy. I agree they don't want them to be

> intelligent and free thinkers, or 'loose canons' as the US State Dept calls

> me, but I really can't buy the argument they want the population dead.

>

> If the US didn't need 13 million more workers in the last decade, they could

> have easily built a fence along the Mexican border, many years ago and

> cheaply. THEY DON'T. Why? Because they needed the cheap labor.

>

> So now we are asked to believe that the government is trying to kill us all

> with chem trails and bird flu?

>

> The idiot running along side a train of car carriers is laughable. The auto

> industry is in the toilet. Car carriers have to be parked somewhere on some

> railroad sidetrack as they have no cars to carry.

>

> Some one could have done the same film with ore cars when JR Simplot Co.

> shut down its fertilizer plant and the thousands of ore cores sat idle on

> railroad sidings. One could have filmed them and claimed they were there to

> carry away the dead bodies to be burned in the idle smelters from the

> fertilizer plant. I actually hesitate to mention this stupid scenario as it

> will probably get recycled into someones new disaster video as the truth.

>

> What I have studied on chem trails, and I check out a lot of the posts and

> sites, just in case there is some thread of truth somewhere, is that this is

> the stupidest method for poisoning the people of the planet ever. There are

> hundreds of cheaper and easier ways to do it. Wouldn't it be much simpler to

> put something in McDonald's french fries, and bang, 15 million are exposed

> in one day. All it would take is one person to load a chemical into the

> blanching tank at the frozen french fry company that makes them all.

>

> Why it appears there are more contrails in the sky; our planet is slowly

> warming and the number one greenhouse gas is not carbon, but water. So there

> is more water vapor in the air than ever before, hence more contrails. It is

> a great reach of imagination to believe that some government would go to the

> cost of putting chemicals in the air. The next argument is that it would not

> be selective and those in power would never harm their own kin. While in

> french fries it would easier to warn kin not to eat french fries.

>

> I could go on and I have refrained from arguing on this site over these

> crazy items that get posted all the time. As I enjoy the advice and help for

> trying to stay healthy the natural way.

>

> If you are worried about bird flu, then beef up your immune system. Take Pau

> d' Arco or Black Cumin or both. Then relax. You know you are immune if the

> common cold doesn't get you down and you feel your body fighting it off

> easily without harm.

>

>

> Craig

>

>

>

>

>

> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Hanneke <blosshan wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSV7jVOjIwQ

> >

> > This video contains some important information that I believe everyone

> > should know about. Please don't just watch this video and leave it at that.

> > Do some research yourself into the topics raised in this video. If the

> > witness account given in this video is true then it is extremely worrying

> > and we should all be asking serious questions about what is going on here.

> >

> > Below is a message from EarthLastHope who originally posted this video

> > earlier today:

> >

> > " It is 3:41 in the morning, again I find myself without sleep. Can you

> > think why? This video will explain now the sad HORRIBLE! connection I have

> > just found, for any shills and skeptics, you may doubt now, but soon you

> > will be dead in one of these. THIS IS VERY REAL! I WILL HAVE MORE VIDEOS

> > ABOUT IT AS SOON AS I CAN! I wouldnt be suprised if my account is taken down

> > after this series. REUPLOAD THIS VIDEO AND ALL OTHERS BUT MAINLY THIS VIDEO

> > AND THE FEW FOLLOWING AFTER IT! THESE TRAINS ARE OUTSIDE MY TOWN, AND MANY

> > MANY OTHERS AND I NOW KNOW WHY!!!!!! "

> > ---EarthLastHope

> >

> > This site below is updated " Daily " and deals specifically with the Bird Flu

> > issue and other viruses that are spread throughout the world. As of today,

> > it looks like Egypt has had 64 cases of the Human Kind of Flu.

> >

> > Here is the link:

> >

http://pandemicinformationnews.blogsp...<http://pandemicinformationnews.blogspot\

..com>

> >

> > This Govt site relating to Pandemic and trucking is VERY interesting:

> >

http://www.pandemicflu.gov/health/car...<http://www.pandemicflu.gov/health/cargo\

_trucking.html#impl>

> >

> > Please comment, rate, fave and share this video with as many people as you

> > can on YouTube, MySpace, Facebook, Digg, LiveVideo, DailyMotion, BlipTv...

> > the whole lot. We need to keep people informed of what is happening. I hope

> > the witness account in this video is not true, but the evidence is stacking

> > up and we can't just sit by and do nothing. Please help spread this video

> > far and wide.

> >

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