Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 ---just to add here and hopefully open this discussion further health and healing all come under the laws of karma so discussion of this topic would seem to be aparamount in understanding health and ill health some info The ultimate life tool Karma therapy One of the most powerful principles for all people is to know about, karma therapy for if you understand this you can even Avoid getting health, wealth, happiness, problems Or if you currently have problems in those areas ie if you are ill, or are poor , or are unhappy, this will help you if you employ this principle preferably daily in your life. I Give you the most effective powerful tool, which I have come across to help you personally improve your life or even alleviate problems entirely. What do you think these statements mean taken out of the bible? John5:5-14 When Jesus discovered a man who had been ill for thirty eight years . On curing him Jesus said to the man.'Behold you have become well; do not sin anymore so that nothing worse may befall you' This clearly indicates that by implication of his statement that this mans troubles were caused by breaking the law of karma. in other words his sinful action which he had committed earlier had caused him to become ill for over 38years!!!!!! –kind of makes you think before you do or say things to people doesn't it. Matthew 9;2 And behold they were bringing to him a paralytic, lying on a bed and Jesus seeing their faith said to the paralytic " Take courage, my son your sins are forgiven " BUT WE ALL HAVE BEEN GIVEN A TOOL FOR TRANSFORMING OUR LIVES THAT TOOL IS GIVING Putting something or some service into society is one of the most transforming tools with which we all benefit . The value of it is much higher than we can possibly know and it should be included as part of everyone's health , wealth, happiness program. The giver may ask how will helping others help my health or wealth or happiness ! That is a very good question, which is very worthy of a serious amount of thought. Karma is the only thing,we have found which explains the apparent randomness of the effects, which come upon people. Effects are all aspects of your health, aspects of your Wealth, Richness, all the elements which go into Happiness etc. What is karma? Put simply it is the law of cause and effect. Or put as another way as you sow so shall you reap, or what goes around comes around. What do we mean by sowing? Simply every action or deed or word you do causes an effect and every thought causes an effect. These effects which we have all caused come back to us all. at one time or another, seemingly at gods choosing or our own. So if you have sown good deeds as in helping others, being of service, giving love and Kindness for lengthy periods of time you can expect to reap those seeds. Alternatively if we have sown in the past and this could be past lifetimes other deeds and thoughts of a hurtful nature to people we can expect major problems of one nature or another to beset us. Often the previous lifetimes deeds catch up with us in this lifetime , sometimes we reap what we sow almost immediately. the timing of when we get what we have sown it seems is down to the universe it would seem. There is now even past life regression therapy used in hypnosis to treat phobias, which are not connected with this lifetime. On curing him Jesus said to the man.'Behold you have become well; do not sin anymore so that nothing worse may befall you' Now we can meet our karma in two ways the first as in an eye for an eye, which means reaping in the exactly the same way as we have done. we see this method being enacted each day mostly on the news ,as calamity after calamity is portrayed to us .death, hunger, disease, torture, homelessness it is very painful to see and to feel. Or we can come under the law of grace where we can have the opportunity to transmute our karma by the giving of service to others. that means working for others - service –giving Sharing our being, our wealth, sending our thoughts, giving to charity, sharing a joke, uplifting someone, giving listening time, giving healing, giving labour, giving love, giving entertainment, giving food, giving information and a million more ways.-daily if possible. apparently we can choose which way we meet our sins from the past The wise among you will take the attitude of discovering the areas of service you have to make amends on before effects of ill health, or ill wealth reach you, whether it be cancer, Parkinson's, blindness, or what have you. how to discover this? Well I suggest you pray to be shown or ask the universe to reveal it to you. reveal the areas which are most suited to service Just going along in your life and living for your self and not bothering until problems come, can be very painful. It is almost like asking for trouble to come , unsure if all of this is true- then pray and asked to be shown, don't believe in anything , pray any way and ask in a sincere way. In , Jagnarain Sharma <jagnarain.sharma wrote: > > Yes dear Jane, as a member of group, we have to follow the advise of Moderator. > Regards > Dr JN Sharma > > On 4/6/09, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote: > > OK end of thread thanks list members. > > > > Karma is a universal law - cause & effect - light and dark - day and night - > > saying you do not need karma is like saying you don't need night as you have > > the Light of the World - lets be realistic about things and keep religion to > > your religious lists and groups - please send no more comments on Karma and > > no posts on religious subjects are permitted on this Health and Healing > > list - read the home page again people. > > > > THanks > > > > Jane as Moderator > > > > - > > " Jagnarain Sharma " <jagnarain.sharma > > > > Monday, April 06, 2009 11:40 AM > > Re: Karma > > > > > > Dear lynne and all > > You are correctly talking about Religion & Karma. > > But Religion is nothing more than a natural Human Life. > > Whatever, we come to know, from scriptures, it is because of > > Clairvoyant people. We at present have very few such people and that > > too are residing some where in places in Tibbet. > > One Dr A.P. Sinnet, who was editor of Pioneer News paper here in > > India, received so many letters from great Mahatama, which can be seen > > in a museum in London. Others like Madam H.P. Blavatsky, Col. Olcot, > > Dr Annie Besant and J Krishnamurthy, geoffery Hudson, who all come > > under the category of Clairvoyant. > > Regards > > Dr. JN Sharma > > > > > > On 4/6/09, chrislynnes <chrislynnes wrote: > >> Karma, religion.. I wish it were that simple to figure out (that you > >> could > >> sum it up in an email.) > >> > >> I don't think that we fully have the capacity to understand the whole > >> workings of all life, spirituality, and after life. Anyone who claims to > >> know > >> it....well, it is just their own best guess. Some might hit on some key > >> issues > >> like love, good, evil, etc... but how they come together and how things > >> really > >> are, they still don't know. > >> > >> Tragic things happen to whole GROUPS of people. Karma or evil intent who > >> is > >> to say, and each case is probably unique. > >> > >> Is this the place to talk about this stuff? Probably not, but delete and > >> don't worry if you disagree. We're all learning everywhere. > >> > >> Lynne > >> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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