Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 > " bluegreensolutions " <bluegreensolutions > > Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:43 PM > Re: baby being circumcised > > > Yes, that's what I said - when one of my boys was a baby, and I wasn't > doing that, the tip got full of smegma and sealed it shut so he > couldn't pee. So I knew better with the next one, to pull it back and > make sure it was clean. ============================================================ I don't understand this reasoning at all. The one about not pulling the foreskin back to make sure the head of a baby boys penis is clean. How can you hurt them? If you are careful, it will not hurt them. They are told, when they get older to pull the foreskin back to make sure the head stays clean. IF pulling the foreskin back was to hurt or damage them they would stop having sex. Does not make sense to me at all. Could someone clarify for me? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 When mine were babies all I did was clean the area - I ckeaned the FS but I did not pull the skin back enough to expose the full head of the penis - thats where the protection is. Babies are not like grown men. - edefreedom1945 Friday, January 23, 2009 7:08 AM Re: baby being circumcised > "bluegreensolutions" <bluegreensolutions> > Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:43 PM> Re: baby being circumcised> > > Yes, that's what I said - when one of my boys was a baby, and I wasn't> doing that, the tip got full of smegma and sealed it shut so he> couldn't pee. So I knew better with the next one, to pull it back and> make sure it was clean.============================================================I don't understand this reasoning at all. The one about not pullingthe foreskin back to make sure the head of a baby boys penis is clean.How can you hurt them? If you are careful, it will not hurt them. They are told, when they get older to pull the foreskin back tomake sure the head stays clean. IF pulling the foreskin back was tohurt or damage them they would stop having sex. Does not makesense to me at all. Could someone clarify for me? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 when a boy is a baby, the forskin is actually atached, by pulling it back, your forceing it to ceparate from the head and shaft of the peanis. It will naturally disatatch, and then it is advised to retract it to clean under it with warm water. Before then your taring it apart, and can very much hurt it. - " edefreedom1945 " <edefreedom1945 Friday, January 23, 2009 4:08 AM Re: baby being circumcised > " bluegreensolutions " <bluegreensolutions > > Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:43 PM > Re: baby being circumcised > > > Yes, that's what I said - when one of my boys was a baby, and I wasn't > doing that, the tip got full of smegma and sealed it shut so he > couldn't pee. So I knew better with the next one, to pull it back and > make sure it was clean. ============================================================ I don't understand this reasoning at all. The one about not pulling the foreskin back to make sure the head of a baby boys penis is clean. How can you hurt them? If you are careful, it will not hurt them. They are told, when they get older to pull the foreskin back to make sure the head stays clean. IF pulling the foreskin back was to hurt or damage them they would stop having sex. Does not make sense to me at all. Could someone clarify for me? Edith --- «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! § Subscribe send email to: - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤» DISCLOSURE: Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP: By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred. Anything going to this list may eventually be posted on another list. If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach your name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record. You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions to the source of the material are made. Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material that you think is worthy. YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I do not think anyone should be offended here - we are all adults. With that saud - I really do not think as far as intercourse goes that there is much difference-to the female that is. Speaking from experience here LOL - Joey Four Hawks Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:07 PM Re: baby being circumcised Well I have always been an out of the box thinker...I watched as it was done and had to turn the sound off and found myself closing my legs during the whole video...When I was born It was into a ward of the state scenerio, my mother was poor so I assume it was some kind of welfare...don't know what name they had for it in 53,,,so to save money I was never circumsized. That led me to ponder why would they do it... someone said financial... and I can see that... However my theory is.... Religion teaches abstination... It is known that the head of a mans penis is more sensitive if he isn't circumsized... and well if ya think about it ... with intercouse the excess skin would make sensation feel better for the woman.(ladies have told me they enjoyed it more than someon who was circumsized)....SO my theory was minimize the sensation and people wont do it as much..... Please don't come back on me for what ever reason... I just wanted to inject a possible reason as to why... My two cents worth... sorry If I offended anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I am/was a good Catholic boy who is not circumsized. As a baby, my fastidious mother pushed back my foreskin each time she bathe me. I occasionaly, as a teen, let my hormones take control and did a bit of masturbating but never had intercourse. I was a virgin when I got married and upon first intercourse I tore the blood vessel that attaches the foreskin to the base of the glans penis and bled slightly. The point I am making here is that pushing back the foreskin to clean a baby's penis does no damage unless that "cord" is torn. It is this cord that causes bleeding when a circumcision is done. Clean we must but beware the thrust that will tear the"cord". Male circumcision is no less a danger than the ritual circumcision of female genitalia that is being done by barbaric tribes using the ritual to show which sex is boss. In the U.S, the last civilized country promoting routine circumcision, this is just another way for the doctor and the Moel to make money and teach submission to the "greater authorities". This is just me after 70 years of education and observation. If I have offended anyone it is your decision to be offended, but perhaps an examination of conscience is in order. If you feel guilty about something, remember that guilt is a trip that is paid for by the "greater authorities". You do not have to go!--- On Fri, 1/23/09, edefreedom1945 <edefreedom1945 wrote: edefreedom1945 <edefreedom1945 Re: baby being circumcised Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 7:08 AM > "bluegreensolutions " <bluegreensolutions > <>> Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:43 PM> [Health_and_ Healing] Re: baby being circumcised> > > Yes, that's what I said - when one of my boys was a baby, and I wasn't> doing that, the tip got full of smegma and sealed it shut so he> couldn't pee. So I knew better with the next one, to pull it back and> make sure it was clean.============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===I don't understand this reasoning at all. The one about not pullingthe foreskin back to make sure the head of a baby boys penis is clean.How can you hurt them? If you are careful, it will not hurt them. They are told, when they get older to pull the foreskin back tomake sure the head stays clean. IF pulling the foreskin back was tohurt or damage them they would stop having sex. Does not makesense to me at all. Could someone clarify for me? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 You are a wise woman--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Kathy <vanokat wrote: Kathy <vanokatRe: Re: baby being circumcised Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 11:58 AM When mine were babies all I did was clean the area - I ckeaned the FS but I did not pull the skin back enough to expose the full head of the penis - thats where the protection is. Babies are not like grown men. - edefreedom1945 Friday, January 23, 2009 7:08 AM [Health_and_ Healing] Re: baby being circumcised > "bluegreensolutions " <bluegreensolutions > <@ .. com>> Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:43 PM> [Health_and_ Healing] Re: baby being circumcised> > > Yes, that's what I said - when one of my boys was a baby, and I wasn't> doing that, the tip got full of smegma and sealed it shut so he> couldn't pee. So I knew better with the next one, to pull it back and> make sure it was clean.============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===I don't understand this reasoning at all. The one about not pullingthe foreskin back to make sure the head of a baby boys penis is clean.How can you hurt them? If you are careful, it will not hurt them. They are told, when they get older to pull the foreskin back tomake sure the head stays clean. IF pulling the foreskin back was tohurt or damage them they would stop having sex. Does not makesense to me at all. Could someone clarify for me? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Y Thank you - You just made my day! K - Tony De Angelis Friday, January 23, 2009 1:26 PM Re: Re: baby being circumcised You are a wise woman--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Kathy <vanokat (AT) mrtc (DOT) com> wrote: Kathy <vanokat (AT) mrtc (DOT) com>Re: Re: baby being circumcised Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 11:58 AM When mine were babies all I did was clean the area - I ckeaned the FS but I did not pull the skin back enough to expose the full head of the penis - thats where the protection is. Babies are not like grown men. - edefreedom1945 Friday, January 23, 2009 7:08 AM [Health_and_ Healing] Re: baby being circumcised > "bluegreensolutions " <bluegreensolutions > <@ .. com>> Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:43 PM> [Health_and_ Healing] Re: baby being circumcised> > > Yes, that's what I said - when one of my boys was a baby, and I wasn't> doing that, the tip got full of smegma and sealed it shut so he> couldn't pee. So I knew better with the next one, to pull it back and> make sure it was clean.============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===I don't understand this reasoning at all. The one about not pullingthe foreskin back to make sure the head of a baby boys penis is clean.How can you hurt them? If you are careful, it will not hurt them. They are told, when they get older to pull the foreskin back tomake sure the head stays clean. IF pulling the foreskin back was tohurt or damage them they would stop having sex. Does not makesense to me at all. Could someone clarify for me? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I think you put it out there and is what I am think it is true what you are saying. Money!!! Plus tyour right it probaly is better and sensation. I just relized yesterday about this whole thing! I do not know what it looks like!! SORRY! No boys here in family only had girls!! Plus husband was . So if God intended it to be done then why are we messing with it!!! I feel its like a virgin girl has what evr is proper then is that a guys way and we take that away by circumsizing?--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Joey Four Hawks <iamfourhawks wrote: Joey Four Hawks <iamfourhawks Re: baby being circumcised Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 11:07 PM Well I have always been an out of the box thinker...I watched as it was done and had to turn the sound off and found myself closing my legs during the whole video...When I was born It was into a ward of the state scenerio, my mother was poor so I assume it was some kind of welfare....don' t know what name they had for it in 53,,,so to save money I was never circumsized. That led me to ponder why would they do it... someone said financial... and I can see that... However my theory is.... Religion teaches abstination. .. It is known that the head of a mans penis is more sensitive if he isn't circumsized. .. and well if ya think about it ... with intercouse the excess skin would make sensation feel better for the woman.(ladies have told me they enjoyed it more than someon who was circumsized) ....SO my theory was minimize the sensation and people wont do it as much...... Please don't come back on me for what ever reason... I just wanted to inject a possible reason as to why... My two cents worth... sorry If I offended anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Amber I do get it!!! I really had no clue until yesterday!! My daughter just came in seen what i was doing and said hey can we talk about this this evening. I said yeah as she is hsving to deal with her boyfriends dad has cancer. I said if you are wanting to think about not doing it and why you need to see this!! If not I advise your to take baby yourself when its time I can not go and do it with you!!! I can not stand the idea of it!!! She said well we can talk tonight and maybe we can try it. With out sounding bad but I was trying to say it teaching her abiout girls that have not had sex a Virgin (what are proper terms)?????? It seems like we are vialating baby boys samethings????? Is that it!! Is that why we do not have to clean until you pull it back????? Plus if you get Yeast infections I know people should do a candida cleanse as That can cause cancer. So its not always cleaning proper its a sugar candida!! I am sorry I do not know proper terms!!!! I feel what you are saying. Is this a local group evryones from same area? Does everyone in my town hearing this conversation????--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue wrote: Amber Boggs <rubyrueRe: Re: baby being circumcised Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 12:13 PM when a boy is a baby, the forskin is actually atached, by pulling it back, your forceing it to ceparate from the head and shaft of the peanis.. It will naturally disatatch, and then it is advised to retract it to clean under it with warm water. Before then your taring it apart, and can very much hurt it.- "edefreedom1945" <edefreedom1945@ wightman. ca><>Friday, January 23, 2009 4:08 AM[Health_and_ Healing] Re: baby being circumcised> "bluegreensolutions " <bluegreensolutions > <>> Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:43 PM> [Health_and_ Healing] Re: baby being circumcised>>> Yes, that's what I said - when one of my boys was a baby, and I wasn't> doing that, the tip got full of smegma and sealed it shut so he> couldn't pee. So I knew better with the next one, to pull it back and> make sure it was clean.============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===I don't understand this reasoning at all. The one about not pullingthe foreskin back to make sure the head of a baby boys penis is clean.How can you hurt them? If you are careful, it will not hurt them.They are told, when they get older to pull the foreskin back tomake sure the head stays clean. IF pulling the foreskin back was tohurt or damage them they would stop having sex. Does not makesense to me at all. Could someone clarify for me? Edith------------ --------- --------- ------«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»§ - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §http://groups. / group/Health_ and_HealingSubscribe send email to: - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»DISCLOSURE:Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE'S OPINION. Always consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP:By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its members, list owners, moderators and affiliates harmless of any liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred..Anything going to this list may eventually be posted on another list.If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach yourname and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on record.You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributionsto the source of the material are made.Submissions are gladly accepted. Please feel free to post material thatyou think is worthy.YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses.IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Glad you said that!! That is interesting to know!! As far as I process it all and feel stupid asking other things I am trying to say!!--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Kathy <vanokat wrote: Kathy <vanokatRe: Re: baby being circumcised Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 12:17 PM I do not think anyone should be offended here - we are all adults. With that saud - I really do not think as far as intercourse goes that there is much difference-to the female that is. Speaking from experience here LOL - Joey Four Hawks Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:07 PM [Health_and_ Healing] Re: baby being circumcised Well I have always been an out of the box thinker...I watched as it was done and had to turn the sound off and found myself closing my legs during the whole video...When I was born It was into a ward of the state scenerio, my mother was poor so I assume it was some kind of welfare....don' t know what name they had for it in 53,,,so to save money I was never circumsized. That led me to ponder why would they do it... someone said financial... and I can see that... However my theory is.... Religion teaches abstination. .. It is known that the head of a mans penis is more sensitive if he isn't circumsized. .. and well if ya think about it ... with intercouse the excess skin would make sensation feel better for the woman.(ladies have told me they enjoyed it more than someon who was circumsized) ....SO my theory was minimize the sensation and people wont do it as much...... Please don't come back on me for what ever reason... I just wanted to inject a possible reason as to why... My two cents worth... sorry If I offended anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 This is like taking a vigin baby boy by doing a circumsi.??? Right!! Thats sick!! That pains me people do this!!! Oh please I hope I can talk since in my girls!!--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Tony De Angelis <tntstuart wrote: Tony De Angelis <tntstuartRe: Re: baby being circumcised Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 12:21 PM I am/was a good Catholic boy who is not circumsized. As a baby, my fastidious mother pushed back my foreskin each time she bathe me. I occasionaly, as a teen, let my hormones take control and did a bit of masturbating but never had intercourse. I was a virgin when I got married and upon first intercourse I tore the blood vessel that attaches the foreskin to the base of the glans penis and bled slightly. The point I am making here is that pushing back the foreskin to clean a baby's penis does no damage unless that "cord" is torn. It is this cord that causes bleeding when a circumcision is done. Clean we must but beware the thrust that will tear the"cord". Male circumcision is no less a danger than the ritual circumcision of female genitalia that is being done by barbaric tribes using the ritual to show which sex is boss. In the U.S, the last civilized country promoting routine circumcision, this is just another way for the doctor and the Moel to make money and teach submission to the "greater authorities" . This is just me after 70 years of education and observation. If I have offended anyone it is your decision to be offended, but perhaps an examination of conscience is in order. If you feel guilty about something, remember that guilt is a trip that is paid for by the "greater authorities" . You do not have to go!--- On Fri, 1/23/09, edefreedom1945 <edefreedom1945@ wightman.. ca> wrote: edefreedom1945 <edefreedom1945@ wightman. ca>[Health_and_ Healing] Re: baby being circumcisedFriday, January 23, 2009, 7:08 AM > "bluegreensolutions " <bluegreensolutions > <>> Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:43 PM> [Health_and_ Healing] Re: baby being circumcised> > > Yes, that's what I said - when one of my boys was a baby, and I wasn't> doing that, the tip got full of smegma and sealed it shut so he> couldn't pee. So I knew better with the next one, to pull it back and> make sure it was clean.============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= ===I don't understand this reasoning at all. The one about not pullingthe foreskin back to make sure the head of a baby boys penis is clean.How can you hurt them? If you are careful, it will not hurt them. They are told, when they get older to pull the foreskin back tomake sure the head stays clean. IF pulling the foreskin back was tohurt or damage them they would stop having sex. Does not makesense to me at all. Could someone clarify for me? Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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