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Repost: <Paranormal_Research > Thanks Lucky!_Obama inaugural horoscope, a train going nowherehttp://www.luckinlove.com/obamainaug.htm __._ ,_THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, the CASE OF THEDOOMED MOON. by Anita Sands http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the Obama Regime calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATION CEREMONY. That's when America and Obama pronounce their "I-do's" so it's a kind of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --and certainly, a kind of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the next eight YEARS of American politics will be like. The problem is, there is no eight years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the train leaving the station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few miles out.Why do I say that? The swearing in is at noon? On the dot? With the MOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, and the worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29th degree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines going nowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was coming to pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know the birth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith, you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Wait twenty. I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me, and rig it differently.Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutual friend that the husband had dropped dead on the hotel room floor. Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. So let's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklin is late to sing her song and the ceremony gets just 31 minutes beyond the NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep, Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would be harmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquar in nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE. TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between 11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS the lord of the hour (ergo chart ruler) in charitable PISCES 17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rules the NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of excitement and glamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tired aging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriously diminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (In real time, Uran/Sat have been opposed for this past half year and they are still locked in two step.) SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. It rules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house. PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. The CONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped the government's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the bankster thieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz it costs a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day.Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own against Saturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those two planets' natures don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive, concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms all the time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help you get a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, is about 'you got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phone me.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS, the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as being opposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of the GREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year, stuck right in the chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFK INAUGURATION. We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also had VENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON JAN 20th, that happens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOUR RULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK without that SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION. OBAMA is immediately a lot behind JFK!VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell us that there will be HELP and succor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK did to some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolized a Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers, astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct in PISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.) but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanity it's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelessly smut minded at same time as trying to do noble works. (I've read biographies that quote him verbatim on sexual hijinks, saying things that would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so his soul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It's the last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields to transitions, like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. First Jackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then the DIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly went overboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exile them from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed two Asian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the French colonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUP was supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIA and they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final express train to Karma ville.And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than the OBAMA ONE. IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a "thousand days" out of it. JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect, just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in midheaven area. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed (aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a 'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, the other side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, so the Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No way that was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two other things. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, a huge patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes, dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/ Ascendant was a big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lying on the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in 1961.THE POPULARITY FACTOR! BOTH inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITER LINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus / sextile Jupiter. Both have a double spoon of JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxes rolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUS is in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house of friends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communal ventures, government itself. VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3 Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER. VEN JUP in my textbook sez "POPULAR". Both were.JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITER in*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify the CONSERVATIVES for a while. In both cases, JUPITER is or was the lord of the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes the USA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE, JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People far away. SUN is conjunct MERCURY in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero is always SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what KENNEDY had, only JFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, in MOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent. Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on the ascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in SCORPIO, the planet of death in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degree of merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants were waiting to kill him. Rent "EXECUTIVE ACTION" Burt Lancaster film on the hit.The last thing I don't like about OBAMA inaug is that it goes nowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes no aspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hidden enemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon semisquares Merc/Sun Wedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits malefics URANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawn and then, that's all she wrote. Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn and the span of that 'event horary' is over.SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after, that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects. Moon gets a long chamade of sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER in gregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION. )Does the change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMA PRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30 degrees giving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronounced with a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all those goodies. Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in the FUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in banking circles, CAPRICORN is the super rich. That shows up in the unfolding of the INAUGURATION HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. As this conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23 CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs after the inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.Symbolized are Government-instigated REMEDIAL measures of some kind that will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms. ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will be shipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city? Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in the subway.GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY to WWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safety net, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of the future of USA viewed in this chart shows real problems 7 years out into the second term, probably the Biden administration.The rest of the chart is a bunch of zeros tied to a twenty nine and that kind of train never gets out of the station. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»Paranormal_Research - Scientific Data, Health Conspiracies & Anything Strange Paranormal_ResearchSubscribe:... Paranormal_Research-

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I would think this was all null and void now because of the fact that

the Oath of Office was said wrong at the noon swearing in. They

re-did it later in the day to make it official.

 

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> THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, the

CASE OF THEDOOMED MOON.

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Obama had to be "resworn" in yesterday. This would change this chart a lot. I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they please post?Thanks,Susan On Jan 21, 2009, at 12:26 AM, M.M. wrote: Repost: <Paranormal_Research > Thanks Lucky! _ Obama inaugural horoscope, a train going nowherehttp://www.luckinlove.com/obamainaug.htm __._ ,_ THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, the CASE OF THEDOOMED MOON. by Anita Sands http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the Obama Regime calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATION CEREMONY. That's when America and Obama pronounce their "I-do's" so it's a kind of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --and certainly, a kind of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the next eight YEARS of American politics will be like. The problem is, there is no eight years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the train leaving the station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few miles out.Why do I say that? The swearing in is at noon? On the dot? With the MOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, and the worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29th degree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines going nowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was coming to pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know the birth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith, you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Wait twenty. I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me, and rig it differently.Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutual friend that the husband had dropped dead on the hotel room floor. Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. So let's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklin is late to sing her song and the ceremony gets just 31 minutes beyond the NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep, Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would be harmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquar in nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE. TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between 11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS the lord of the hour (ergo chart ruler) in charitable PISCES 17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rules the NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of excitement and glamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tired aging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriously diminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (In real time, Uran/Sat have been opposed for this past half year and they are still locked in two step.) SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. It rules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house. PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. The CONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped the government's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the bankster thieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz it costs a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day.Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own against Saturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those two planets' natures don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive, concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms all the time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help you get a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, is about 'you got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phone me.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS, the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as being opposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of the GREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year, stuck right in the chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFK INAUGURATION. We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also had VENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON JAN 20th, that happens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOUR RULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK without that SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION. OBAMA is immediately a lot behind JFK!VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell us that there will be HELP and succor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK did to some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolized a Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers, astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct in PISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.) but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanity it's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelessly smut minded at same time as trying to do noble works. (I've read biographies that quote him verbatim on sexual hijinks, saying things that would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so his soul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It's the last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields to transitions, like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. First Jackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then the DIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly went overboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exile them from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed two Asian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the French colonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUP was supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIA and they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final express train to Karma ville.And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than the OBAMA ONE. IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a "thousand days" out of it. JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect, just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in midheaven area. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed (aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a 'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, the other side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, so the Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No way that was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two other things. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, a huge patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes, dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/ Ascendant was a big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lying on the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in 1961.THE POPULARITY FACTOR! BOTH inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITER LINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus / sextile Jupiter. Both have a double spoon of JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxes rolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUS is in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house of friends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communal ventures, government itself. VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3 Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER. VEN JUP in my textbook sez "POPULAR". Both were.JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITER in*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify the CONSERVATIVES for a while. In both cases, JUPITER is or was the lord of the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes the USA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE, JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People far away. SUN is conjunct MERCURY in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero is always SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what KENNEDY had, only JFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, in MOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent. Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on the ascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in SCORPIO, the planet of death in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degree of merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants were waiting to kill him. Rent "EXECUTIVE ACTION" Burt Lancaster film on the hit.The last thing I don't like about OBAMA inaug is that it goes nowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes no aspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hidden enemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon semisquares Merc/Sun Wedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits malefics URANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawn and then, that's all she wrote. Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn and the span of that 'event horary' is over.SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after, that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects. Moon gets a long chamade of sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER in gregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION. )Does the change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMA PRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30 degrees giving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronounced with a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all those goodies. Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in the FUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in banking circles, CAPRICORN is the super rich. That shows up in the unfolding of the INAUGURATION HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. As this conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23 CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs after the inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.Symbolized are Government-instigated REMEDIAL measures of some kind that will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms. ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will be shipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city? Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in the subway.GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY to WWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safety net, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of the future of USA viewed in this chart shows real problems 7 years out into the second term, probably the Biden administration.The rest of the chart is a bunch of zeros tied to a twenty nine and that kind of train never gets out of the station. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»Paranormal_Research - Scientific Data, Health Conspiracies & Anything Strange Paranormal_ResearchSubscribe:... Paranormal_Research-

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That is interesting....I bet it would change things considerably...--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 wrote:

Susan Siegel <ssiegel5Re: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed Moon Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 4:49 AM

Obama had to be "resworn" in yesterday. This would change this chart a lot. I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they please post?

 

Thanks,

Susan

 

 

On Jan 21, 2009, at 12:26 AM, M.M. wrote:

 

 

 

 

Repost: <Paranormal_Research > Thanks Lucky!

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Obama inaugural horoscope, a train going nowherehttp://www.luckinlove.com/obamainaug.htm __._

 

 

,_ THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, the CASE OF THEDOOMED MOON. by Anita Sands http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/

Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the Obama Regime calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATION CEREMONY. That's when America and Obama pronounce their "I-do's" so it's a kind of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --and certainly, a kind of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the next eight YEARS of American politics will be like. The problem is, there is no eight years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the train leaving the station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few miles out.

Why do I say that? The swearing in is at noon? On the dot? With the MOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, and the worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29th degree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines going nowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was coming to pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know the birth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith, you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Wait twenty. I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me, and rig it differently.

Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutual friend that the husband had dropped dead on the hotel room floor. Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. So let's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklin is late to sing her song and the ceremony gets just 31 minutes beyond the NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep, Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would be harmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquar in nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.

Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE.

TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between 11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS the lord of the hour (ergo chart ruler) in charitable PISCES 17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rules the NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.

VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of excitement and glamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tired aging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriously diminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (In real time, Uran/Sat have been opposed for this past half year and they are still locked in two step.) SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. It rules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house. PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. The CONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped the government's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the bankster thieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz it costs a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day.

Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own against Saturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those two planets' natures don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive, concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms all the time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help you get a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, is about 'you got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phone me.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS, the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as being opposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.

So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of the GREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year, stuck right in the chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .

This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFK INAUGURATION. We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also had VENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON JAN 20th, that happens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOUR RULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK without that SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION. OBAMA is immediately a lot behind JFK!

VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell us that there will be HELP and succor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK did to some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolized a Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers, astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct in PISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.) but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanity it's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelessly smut minded at same time as trying to do noble works. (I've read biographies that quote him verbatim on sexual hijinks, saying things that would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so his soul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)

Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It's the last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields to transitions, like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. First Jackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then the DIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly went overboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exile them from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed two Asian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the French colonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUP was supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIA and they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final express train to Karma ville.

And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than the OBAMA ONE.

IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a "thousand days" out of it. JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect, just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in midheaven area. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed (aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a 'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, the other side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, so the Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No way that was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two other things. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, a huge patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes, dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/ Ascendant was a big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lying on the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in

1961.

THE POPULARITY FACTOR! BOTH inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITER LINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus / sextile Jupiter. Both have a double spoon of JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxes rolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUS is in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house of friends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communal ventures, government itself. VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3 Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER. VEN JUP in my textbook sez "POPULAR". Both were.

JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITER in*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify the CONSERVATIVES for a while. In both cases, JUPITER is or was the lord of the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes the USA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE, JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People far away. SUN is conjunct MERCURY in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero is always SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what KENNEDY had, only JFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, in MOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent. Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on the ascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in

SCORPIO, the planet of death in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degree of merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants were waiting to kill him. Rent "EXECUTIVE ACTION" Burt Lancaster film on the hit.

The last thing I don't like about OBAMA inaug is that it goes nowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes no aspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hidden enemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon semisquares Merc/Sun Wedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits malefics URANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawn and then, that's all she wrote. Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn and the span of that 'event horary' is over.

SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after, that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects. Moon gets a long chamade of sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER in gregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION. )Does the change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMA PRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30 degrees giving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronounced with a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all those goodies. Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.

Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in the FUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in banking circles, CAPRICORN is the super rich. That shows up in the unfolding of the INAUGURATION HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. As this conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23 CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs after the inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.

Symbolized are Government-instigated REMEDIAL measures of some kind that will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms. ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will be shipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city? Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in the subway.

GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY to WWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safety net, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.

If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of the future of USA viewed in this chart shows real problems 7 years out into the second term, probably the Biden administration.

The rest of the chart is a bunch of zeros tied to a twenty nine and that kind of train never gets out of the station. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»Paranormal_Research - Scientific Data, Health Conspiracies & Anything Strange Paranormal_ResearchSubscribe:... Paranormal_Research-

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Can it tell when a baby will be born? He is due Febuary 14 and is already in position? Just wondering how it works!--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen wrote:

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That is interesting....I bet it would change things considerably...--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 wrote:

Susan Siegel <ssiegel5Re: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed Moon Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 4:49 AM

Obama had to be "resworn" in yesterday. This would change this chart a lot. I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they please post?

Thanks,

Susan

 

 

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,_ THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, the CASE OF THEDOOMED MOON. by Anita Sands http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/ Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the Obama Regime calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATION CEREMONY. That's when America and Obama pronounce their "I-do's" so it's a kind of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --and certainly, a kind of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the next eight YEARS of American politics will be like. The problem is, there is no eight years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the train leaving the station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few miles out.

Why do I say that? The swearing in is at noon? On the dot? With the MOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, and the worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29th degree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines going nowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was coming to pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know the birth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith, you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Wait twenty. I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me, and rig it differently.

Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutual friend that the husband had dropped dead on the hotel room floor. Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. So let's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklin is late to sing her song and the ceremony gets just 31 minutes beyond the NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep, Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would be harmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquar in nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.

Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE.

TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between 11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS the lord of the hour (ergo chart ruler) in charitable PISCES 17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rules the NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.

VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of excitement and glamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tired aging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriously diminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (In real time, Uran/Sat have been opposed for this past half year and they are still locked in two step.) SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. It rules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house. PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. The CONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped the government's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the bankster thieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz it costs a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day..

Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own against Saturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those two planets' natures don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive, concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms all the time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help you get a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, is about 'you got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phone me.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS, the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as being opposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.

So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of the GREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year, stuck right in the chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .

This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFK INAUGURATION. We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also had VENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON JAN 20th, that happens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOUR RULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK without that SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION. OBAMA is immediately a lot behind JFK!

VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell us that there will be HELP and succor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK did to some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolized a Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers, astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct in PISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.) but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanity it's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelessly smut minded at same time as trying to do noble works. (I've read biographies that quote him verbatim on sexual hijinks, saying things that would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so his soul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)

Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It's the last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields to transitions, like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. First Jackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then the DIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly went overboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exile them from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed two Asian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the French colonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUP was supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIA and they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final express train to Karma ville.

And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than the OBAMA ONE.

IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a "thousand days" out of it. JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect, just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in midheaven area. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed (aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a 'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, the other side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, so the Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No way that was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two other things. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, a huge patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes, dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/ Ascendant was a big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lying on the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in

1961.

THE POPULARITY FACTOR! BOTH inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITER LINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus / sextile Jupiter. Both have a double spoon of JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxes rolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUS is in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house of friends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communal ventures, government itself. VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3 Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER.. VEN JUP in my textbook sez "POPULAR". Both were.

JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITER in*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify the CONSERVATIVES for a while. In both cases, JUPITER is or was the lord of the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes the USA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE, JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People far away. SUN is conjunct MERCURY in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero is always SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what KENNEDY had, only JFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, in MOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent. Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on the ascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in

SCORPIO, the planet of death in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degree of merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants were waiting to kill him. Rent "EXECUTIVE ACTION" Burt Lancaster film on the hit.

The last thing I don't like about OBAMA inaug is that it goes nowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes no aspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hidden enemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon semisquares Merc/Sun Wedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits malefics URANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawn and then, that's all she wrote. Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn and the span of that 'event horary' is over.

SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after, that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects.. Moon gets a long chamade of sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER in gregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION. )Does the change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMA PRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30 degrees giving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronounced with a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all those goodies. Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.

Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in the FUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in banking circles, CAPRICORN is the super rich. That shows up in the unfolding of the INAUGURATION HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. As this conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23 CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs after the inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.

Symbolized are Government-instigated REMEDIAL measures of some kind that will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms. ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will be shipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city? Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in the subway.

GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY to WWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safety net, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.

If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of the future of USA viewed in this chart shows real problems 7 years out into the second term, probably the Biden administration.

The rest of the chart is a bunch of zeros tied to a twenty nine and that kind of train never gets out of the station. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»Paranormal_Research - Scientific Data, Health Conspiracies & Anything Strange Paranormal_ResearchSubscribe:... Paranormal_Research-

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The first time wasn't legal, and I wouldn't think the second one was legal either since he did not use a Bible. What do you all make of this? Sounds pretty fishy to me.Carol--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 wrote:Susan Siegel <ssiegel5Re: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed Moon Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 7:49 AMObama had to be "resworn" in yesterday. This would change this chart a lot. I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they please post?

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My understanding is that being "resworn" was just a precaution to make sure that his naysayers could not come back with it "wasn't legal" stuff.

 

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The first time wasn't legal, and I wouldn't think the second one was legal either since he did not use a Bible. What do you all make of this? Sounds pretty fishy to me.Carol

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A bible is not a requirement. It is only an option for those that want to use one. Same as in a court of law, only in the movies do they use a bible. The law in America is not based on any religion. Craig

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The first time wasn't legal, and I wouldn't think the second one was legal either since he did not use a Bible. What do you all make of this? Sounds pretty fishy to me.Carol--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 wrote:

Susan Siegel <ssiegel5Re: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed Moon

Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 7:49 AMObama had to be " resworn " in yesterday. This would change this chart a lot. I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they please post?

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He could stay that way for a long wile. Good luck to you. Are you planning a homebirth?

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Can it tell when a baby will be born? He is due Febuary 14 and is already in position? Just wondering how it works!--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausenRe: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed Moon Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:59 AM

 

 

 

 

That is interesting....I bet it would change things considerably...--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 wrote:

Susan Siegel <ssiegel5Re: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed Moon Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 4:49 AM

Obama had to be "resworn" in yesterday. This would change this chart a lot. I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they please post?

Thanks,

Susan

 

 

On Jan 21, 2009, at 12:26 AM, M.M. wrote:

 

 

 

 

Repost: <Paranormal_Research > Thanks Lucky!

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Obama inaugural horoscope, a train going nowherehttp://www.luckinlove.com/obamainaug.htm __._

 

 

,_ THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, the CASE OF THEDOOMED MOON. by Anita Sands http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/ Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the Obama Regime calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATION CEREMONY. That's when America and Obama pronounce their "I-do's" so it's a kind of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --and certainly, a kind of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the next eight YEARS of American politics will be like. The problem is, there is no eight years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the train leaving the station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few miles out.

Why do I say that? The swearing in is at noon? On the dot? With the MOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, and the worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29th degree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines going nowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was coming to pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know the birth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith, you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Wait twenty. I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me, and rig it differently.

Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutual friend that the husband had dropped dead on the hotel room floor. Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. So let's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklin is late to sing her song and the ceremony gets just 31 minutes beyond the NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep, Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would be harmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquar in nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.

Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE.

TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between 11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS the lord of the hour (ergo chart ruler) in charitable PISCES 17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rules the NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.

VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of excitement and glamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tired aging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriously diminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (In real time, Uran/Sat have been opposed for this past half year and they are still locked in two step.) SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. It rules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house. PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. The CONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped the government's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the bankster thieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz it costs a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day..

Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own against Saturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those two planets' natures don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive, concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms all the time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help you get a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, is about 'you got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phone me.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS, the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as being opposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.

So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of the GREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year, stuck right in the chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .

This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFK INAUGURATION. We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also had VENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON JAN 20th, that happens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOUR RULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK without that SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION. OBAMA is immediately a lot behind JFK!

VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell us that there will be HELP and succor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK did to some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolized a Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers, astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct in PISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.) but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanity it's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelessly smut minded at same time as trying to do noble works. (I've read biographies that quote him verbatim on sexual hijinks, saying things that would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so his soul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)

Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It's the last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields to transitions, like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. First Jackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then the DIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly went overboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exile them from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed two Asian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the French colonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUP was supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIA and they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final express train to Karma ville.

And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than the OBAMA ONE.

IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a "thousand days" out of it. JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect, just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in midheaven area. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed (aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a 'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, the other side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, so the Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No way that was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two other things. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, a huge patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes, dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/ Ascendant was a big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lying on the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in 1961.

THE POPULARITY FACTOR! BOTH inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITER LINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus / sextile Jupiter. Both have a double spoon of JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxes rolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUS is in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house of friends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communal ventures, government itself. VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3 Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER.. VEN JUP in my textbook sez "POPULAR". Both were.

JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITER in*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify the CONSERVATIVES for a while. In both cases, JUPITER is or was the lord of the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes the USA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE, JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People far away. SUN is conjunct MERCURY in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero is always SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what KENNEDY had, only JFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, in MOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent. Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on the ascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in SCORPIO, the planet of death in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degree of merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants were waiting to kill him. Rent "EXECUTIVE ACTION" Burt Lancaster film on the hit.

The last thing I don't like about OBAMA inaug is that it goes nowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes no aspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hidden enemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon semisquares Merc/Sun Wedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits malefics URANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawn and then, that's all she wrote. Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn and the span of that 'event horary' is over.

SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after, that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects.. Moon gets a long chamade of sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER in gregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION. )Does the change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMA PRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30 degrees giving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronounced with a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all those goodies. Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.

Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in the FUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in banking circles, CAPRICORN is the super rich. That shows up in the unfolding of the INAUGURATION HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. As this conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23 CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs after the inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.

Symbolized are Government-instigated REMEDIAL measures of some kind that will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms. ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will be shipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city? Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in the subway.

GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY to WWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safety net, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.

If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of the future of USA viewed in this chart shows real problems 7 years out into the second term, probably the Biden administration.

The rest of the chart is a bunch of zeros tied to a twenty nine and that kind of train never gets out of the station. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»Paranormal_Research - Scientific Data, Health Conspiracies & Anything Strange Paranormal_ResearchSubscribe:... Paranormal_Research-

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Thanks!! No it is my daughter who is haveing baby! But she is doing no Vaccinations!! The only one which I do not know about is the Vitamin K! Do you know what that is for? He said its for blood clotting!! What about the stars on baby for that month! I have never heard of this what you are talking about for the inguration!! Would like to hear!! Thanks!!--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue wrote:

Amber Boggs <rubyrueRe: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed Moon Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 12:01 PM

 

 

 

He could stay that way for a long wile. Good luck to you. Are you planning a homebirth?

Amber

 

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debbie wright

 

Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:41 AM

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Can it tell when a baby will be born? He is due Febuary 14 and is already in position? Just wondering how it works!--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed MoonThursday, January 22, 2009, 9:59 AM

 

 

 

 

That is interesting. ...I bet it would change things considerably. ..--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net>Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed MoonThursday, January 22, 2009, 4:49 AM

Obama had to be "resworn" in yesterday. This would change this chart a lot. I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they please post?

Thanks,

Susan

 

 

On Jan 21, 2009, at 12:26 AM, M.M. wrote:

 

 

 

 

Repost: <Paranormal_Research > Thanks Lucky!

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Obama inaugural horoscope, a train going nowherehttp://www.luckinlo ve.com/obamainau g.htm __._

 

 

,_ THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, the CASE OF THEDOOMED MOON. by Anita Sands http://home. earthlink. net/~astrology/ Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the Obama Regime calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATION CEREMONY. That's when America and Obama pronounce their "I-do's" so it's a kind of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --and certainly, a kind of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the next eight YEARS of American politics will be like. The problem is, there is no eight years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the train leaving the station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few miles out.

Why do I say that? The swearing in is at noon? On the dot? With the MOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, and the worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29th degree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines going nowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was coming to pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know the birth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith, you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Wait twenty. I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me, and rig it differently.

Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutual friend that the husband had dropped dead on the hotel room floor. Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. So let's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklin is late to sing her song and the ceremony gets just 31 minutes beyond the NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep, Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would be harmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquar in nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.

Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE.

TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between 11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS the lord of the hour (ergo chart ruler) in charitable PISCES 17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rules the NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.

VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of excitement and glamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tired aging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriously diminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (In real time, Uran/Sat have been opposed for this past half year and they are still locked in two step.) SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. It rules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house. PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. The CONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped the government's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the bankster thieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz it costs a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day...

Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own against Saturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those two planets' natures don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive, concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms all the time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help you get a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, is about 'you got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phone me.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS, the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as being opposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.

So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of the GREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year, stuck right in the chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .

This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFK INAUGURATION. We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also had VENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON JAN 20th, that happens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOUR RULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK without that SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION. OBAMA is immediately a lot behind JFK!

VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell us that there will be HELP and succor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK did to some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolized a Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers, astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct in PISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.) but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanity it's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelessly smut minded at same time as trying to do noble works. (I've read biographies that quote him verbatim on sexual hijinks, saying things that would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so his soul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)

Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It's the last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields to transitions, like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. First Jackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then the DIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly went overboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exile them from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed two Asian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the French colonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUP was supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIA and they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final express train to Karma ville.

And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than the OBAMA ONE.

IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a "thousand days" out of it. JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect, just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in midheaven area. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed (aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a 'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, the other side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, so the Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No way that was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two other things. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, a huge patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes, dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/ Ascendant was a big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lying on the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in

1961.

THE POPULARITY FACTOR! BOTH inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITER LINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus / sextile Jupiter. Both have a double spoon of JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxes rolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUS is in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house of friends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communal ventures, government itself. VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3 Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER... VEN JUP in my textbook sez "POPULAR". Both were.

JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITER in*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify the CONSERVATIVES for a while. In both cases, JUPITER is or was the lord of the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes the USA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE, JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People far away. SUN is conjunct MERCURY in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero is always SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what KENNEDY had, only JFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, in MOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent. Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on the ascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in

SCORPIO, the planet of death in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degree of merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants were waiting to kill him. Rent "EXECUTIVE ACTION" Burt Lancaster film on the hit.

The last thing I don't like about OBAMA inaug is that it goes nowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes no aspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hidden enemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon semisquares Merc/Sun Wedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits malefics URANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawn and then, that's all she wrote. Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn and the span of that 'event horary' is over.

SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after, that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects... Moon gets a long chamade of sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER in gregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION. )Does the change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMA PRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30 degrees giving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronounced with a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all those goodies. Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.

Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in the FUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in banking circles, CAPRICORN is the super rich. That shows up in the unfolding of the INAUGURATION HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. As this conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23 CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs after the inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.

Symbolized are Government-instigat ed REMEDIAL measures of some kind that will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms. ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will be shipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city? Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in the subway.

GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY to WWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safety net, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.

If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of the future of USA viewed in this chart shows real problems 7 years out into the second term, probably the Biden administration.

The rest of the chart is a bunch of zeros tied to a twenty nine and that kind of train never gets out of the station. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»Paranormal_Research - Scientific Data, Health Conspiracies & Anything Strange http://groups. / group/Paranormal _ResearchSubscribe:.. . Paranormal_Research -@ . .com

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Sorry, I am not the one who posted the star thing.

As for Vit K, I would not personally give it. Let me look up the info I have on it for you. I did not give it to my baby, and with the one I am due with in Aug I will not as well. ALso tell her to refuse the Eye dropps to. That is enless she has any form of STD

Amber

 

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debbie wright

Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:47 AM

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Thanks!! No it is my daughter who is haveing baby! But she is doing no Vaccinations!! The only one which I do not know about is the Vitamin K! Do you know what that is for? He said its for blood clotting!! What about the stars on baby for that month! I have never heard of this what you are talking about for the inguration!! Would like to hear!! Thanks!!--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue wrote:

Amber Boggs <rubyrueRe: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed Moon Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 12:01 PM

 

 

 

He could stay that way for a long wile. Good luck to you. Are you planning a homebirth?

Amber

 

-

debbie wright

 

Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:41 AM

Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed Moon

 

 

 

 

Can it tell when a baby will be born? He is due Febuary 14 and is already in position? Just wondering how it works!--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed MoonThursday, January 22, 2009, 9:59 AM

 

 

 

 

That is interesting. ...I bet it would change things considerably. ..--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net>Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed MoonThursday, January 22, 2009, 4:49 AM

Obama had to be "resworn" in yesterday. This would change this chart a lot. I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they please post?

Thanks,

Susan

 

 

On Jan 21, 2009, at 12:26 AM, M.M. wrote:

 

 

 

 

Repost: <Paranormal_Research > Thanks Lucky!

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___

Obama inaugural horoscope, a train going nowherehttp://www.luckinlo ve.com/obamainau g.htm __._

 

 

,_ THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, the CASE OF THEDOOMED MOON. by Anita Sands http://home. earthlink. net/~astrology/ Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the Obama Regime calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATION CEREMONY. That's when America and Obama pronounce their "I-do's" so it's a kind of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --and certainly, a kind of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the next eight YEARS of American politics will be like. The problem is, there is no eight years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the train leaving the station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few miles out.

Why do I say that? The swearing in is at noon? On the dot? With the MOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, and the worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29th degree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines going nowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was coming to pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know the birth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith, you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Wait twenty. I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me, and rig it differently.

Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutual friend that the husband had dropped dead on the hotel room floor. Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. So let's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklin is late to sing her song and the ceremony gets just 31 minutes beyond the NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep, Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would be harmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquar in nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.

Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE.

TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between 11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS the lord of the hour (ergo chart ruler) in charitable PISCES 17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rules the NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.

VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of excitement and glamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tired aging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriously diminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (In real time, Uran/Sat have been opposed for this past half year and they are still locked in two step.) SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. It rules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house. PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. The CONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped the government's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the bankster thieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz it costs a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day...

Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own against Saturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those two planets' natures don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive, concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms all the time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help you get a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, is about 'you got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phone me.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS, the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as being opposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.

So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of the GREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year, stuck right in the chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .

This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFK INAUGURATION. We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also had VENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON JAN 20th, that happens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOUR RULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK without that SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION. OBAMA is immediately a lot behind JFK!

VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell us that there will be HELP and succor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK did to some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolized a Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers, astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct in PISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.) but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanity it's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelessly smut minded at same time as trying to do noble works. (I've read biographies that quote him verbatim on sexual hijinks, saying things that would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so his soul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)

Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It's the last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields to transitions, like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. First Jackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then the DIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly went overboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exile them from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed two Asian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the French colonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUP was supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIA and they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final express train to Karma ville.

And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than the OBAMA ONE.

IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a "thousand days" out of it. JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect, just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in midheaven area. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed (aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a 'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, the other side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, so the Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No way that was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two other things. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, a huge patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes, dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/ Ascendant was a big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lying on the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in 1961.

THE POPULARITY FACTOR! BOTH inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITER LINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus / sextile Jupiter. Both have a double spoon of JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxes rolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUS is in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house of friends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communal ventures, government itself. VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3 Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER... VEN JUP in my textbook sez "POPULAR". Both were.

JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITER in*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify the CONSERVATIVES for a while. In both cases, JUPITER is or was the lord of the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes the USA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE, JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People far away. SUN is conjunct MERCURY in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero is always SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what KENNEDY had, only JFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, in MOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent. Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on the ascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in SCORPIO, the planet of death in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degree of merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants were waiting to kill him. Rent "EXECUTIVE ACTION" Burt Lancaster film on the hit.

The last thing I don't like about OBAMA inaug is that it goes nowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes no aspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hidden enemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon semisquares Merc/Sun Wedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits malefics URANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawn and then, that's all she wrote. Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn and the span of that 'event horary' is over.

SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after, that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects... Moon gets a long chamade of sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER in gregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION. )Does the change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMA PRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30 degrees giving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronounced with a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all those goodies. Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.

Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in the FUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in banking circles, CAPRICORN is the super rich. That shows up in the unfolding of the INAUGURATION HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. As this conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23 CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs after the inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.

Symbolized are Government-instigat ed REMEDIAL measures of some kind that will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms. ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will be shipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city? Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in the subway.

GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY to WWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safety net, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.

If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of the future of USA viewed in this chart shows real problems 7 years out into the second term, probably the Biden administration.

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Well, good news - he actually got sworn in properly yesterday - the

re-do. So I hope you re-do this gloomy mess and generally it's good

to know things are different now...even in how some astrology can be

interpreted :)

Liz

 

 

 

, " M.M. " <MedResearch121

wrote:

>

>

> Repost: <Paranormal_Research > Thanks Lucky!

> _

>

> Obama inaugural horoscope, a train going nowhere

> http://www.luckinlove.com/obamainaug.htm __._

>

>

> ,_

> THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, the

CASE OF THEDOOMED MOON.

>

> by Anita Sands http://home.earthlink.net/~astrology/

> Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the Obama Regime

calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATION CEREMONY.

That's when America and Obama pronounce their " I-do's " so it's a kind

of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --and certainly, a kind

of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the next eight YEARS of

American politics will be like. The problem is, there is no eight

years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the train leaving the

station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few miles out.

> Why do I say that? The swearing in is at noon? On the dot? With the

MOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, and

the worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29th

degree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines going

nowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was coming

to pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know the

birth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith,

you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Wait

twenty. I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me,

and rig it differently.

> Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutual

friend that the husband had dropped dead on the hotel room floor.

Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. So

let's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklin

is late to sing her song and the ceremony gets just 31 minutes beyond

the NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep,

Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would be

harmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquar

in nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.

> Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE.

>

> TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between

11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS the lord of the hour (ergo chart

ruler) in charitable PISCES 17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rules

the NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.

> VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of excitement and

glamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tired

aging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriously

diminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (In

real time, Uran/Sat have been opposed for this past half year and they

are still locked in two step.) SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. It

rules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house.

PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. The

CONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped the

government's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the bankster

thieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz it

costs a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day.

> Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own against

Saturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those two

planets' natures don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive,

concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms all

the time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help you

get a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, is

about 'you got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phone

me.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS,

the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as being

opposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.

> So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of the

GREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year, stuck right in

the chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .

> This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFK

INAUGURATION. We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also had

VENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON JAN 20th, that

happens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOUR

RULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK without

that SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION. OBAMA

is immediately a lot behind JFK!

> VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell us that there will be HELP and

succor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK did

to some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolized

a Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers,

astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct in

PISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.)

but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanity

it's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelessly

smut minded at same time as trying to do noble works. (I've read

biographies that quote him verbatim on sexual hijinks, saying things

that would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so his

soul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)

> Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It's

the last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields to

transitions, like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. First

Jackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then the

DIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly went

overboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exile

them from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed two

Asian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the French

colonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUP

was supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIA

and they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final express

train to Karma ville.

> And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than the

OBAMA ONE.

>

> IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a

" thousand days " out of it. JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect,

just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in midheaven

area. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed

(aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a

'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, the

other side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, so

the Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No way

that was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two other

things. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, a

huge patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes,

dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/ Ascendant was

a big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lying

on the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in 1961.

> THE POPULARITY FACTOR! BOTH inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITER

LINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus /

sextile Jupiter. Both have a double spoon of JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxes

rolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUS

is in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house of

friends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communal

ventures, government itself. VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3

Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER. VEN JUP in my textbook sez " POPULAR " .

Both were.

> JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITER

in*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify the

CONSERVATIVES for a while. In both cases, JUPITER is or was the lord

of the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes the

USA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE,

JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People far

away. SUN is conjunct MERCURY in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero is

always SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what KENNEDY had, only

JFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, in

MOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent.

Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on the

ascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in SCORPIO, the planet of

death in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degree

of merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants were

waiting to kill him. Rent " EXECUTIVE ACTION " Burt Lancaster film on

the hit.

> The last thing I don't like about OBAMA inaug is that it goes

nowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes no

aspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hidden

enemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon semisquares Merc/Sun

Wedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits malefics

URANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawn

and then, that's all she wrote. Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn and

the span of that 'event horary' is over.

> SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after,

that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects. Moon gets a

long chamade of sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER in

gregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION. )Does

the change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMA

PRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30 degrees

giving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronounced

with a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all those

goodies. Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.

> Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in the

FUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in banking

circles, CAPRICORN is the super rich. That shows up in the unfolding

of the INAUGURATION HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. As

this conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23

CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs after

the inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.

> Symbolized are Government-instigated REMEDIAL measures of some kind

that will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms.

ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will be

shipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city?

Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in the

subway.

> GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY to

WWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safety

net, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.

> If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of the

future of USA viewed in this chart shows real problems 7 years out

into the second term, probably the Biden administration.

> The rest of the chart is a bunch of zeros tied to a twenty nine and

that kind of train never gets out of the station.

>

>

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Yes, Vit K is to help the blood clot. I've heard, however, that it's

100x the amount that a baby should have. It takes about a week for

the blood to start clotting well. So, if she refuses the Vit K, then

he should not be circumcised for a week. I personally didn't get the

Vit K for my last baby.

 

, debbie wright

<itsabouttime66 wrote:

>

> Thanks!! No it is my daughter who is haveing baby! But she is doing

no Vaccinations!! The only one which I do not know about is the

Vitamin K! Do you know what that is for? He said its for blood

clotting!! What about the stars on baby for that month! I have never

heard of this what you are talking about for the inguration!! Would

like to hear!! Thanks!!

>

> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue wrote:

>

> Amber Boggs <rubyrue

> Re: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,

the case of the Doomed Moon

>

> Thursday, January 22, 2009, 12:01 PM

>

He could stay that way for a long wile. Good luck to you. Are you

planning a homebirth?

> Amber

>

> -

> debbie wright

>

> Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:41 AM

> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,

the case of the Doomed Moon

>

>

>

>

>

> Can it tell when a baby will be born? He is due Febuary 14 and is

already in position? Just wondering how it works!

>

> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:

>

> Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >

> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,

the case of the Doomed Moon

>

> Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:59 AM

That is interesting. ...I bet it would change things considerably. ..

>

> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

>

> Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,

the case of the Doomed Moon

>

> Thursday, January 22, 2009, 4:49 AM

>

>

> Obama had to be " resworn " in yesterday.  This would change this

chart a lot.  I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they please

post?

>

>

> Thanks,

> Susan

>

>

>

>

> On Jan 21, 2009, at 12:26 AM, M.M. wrote:

>

>

>

>

>  

> Repost: <Paranormal_Research > Thanks Lucky!

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___

>

> Obama inaugural horoscope, a train going nowhere

> http://www.luckinlo ve.com/obamainau g.htm __._

>  

>  

> ,_

> THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, the

CASE OF THEDOOMED

MOON.                                                                     

> by Anita Sands http://home. earthlink. net/~astrology/

> Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the Obama

Regime calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATION

CEREMONY. That's when America and Obama pronounce their " I-do's " so

it's a kind of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --and

certainly, a kind of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the next

eight YEARS of American politics will be like. The problem is, there

is no eight years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the train

leaving the station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few miles

out.

> Why do I say that? The swearing in is at noon? On the dot? With the

MOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, and

the worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29th

degree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines going

nowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was coming

to pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know the

birth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith,

you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Wait

twenty.  I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me,

and rig it differently.

> Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutual

friend that the husband had dropped dead on the hotel room floor.

Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. So

let's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklin

is late to sing her song and the ceremony  gets just 31 minutes beyond

the NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep,

Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would be

harmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquar

in nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.

> Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE.

>  

>  TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between

11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS  the lord of the hour (ergo chart

ruler) in charitable PISCES  17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rules

the NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.

> VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of excitement and

glamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tired

aging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriously

diminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (In

real time, Uran/Sat have been opposed for this past half year and they

are still  locked in two step.)  SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. It

rules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house.

PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. The

CONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped the

government's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the bankster

thieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz it

costs a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day..

> Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own against

Saturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those two

planets' natures don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive,

concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms all

the time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help you

get a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, is

about 'you got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phone

me.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS,

the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as being 

opposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.

> So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of the

GREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year,  stuck right in

the chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .

> This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFK

INAUGURATION.  We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also had

VENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON JAN 20th, that

happens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOUR

RULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK without

that SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION.  OBAMA

is immediately a lot behind JFK!

> VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell us that there will be HELP and

succor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK did

to some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolized

a Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers,

astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct in

PISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.)

but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanity

it's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelessly

smut minded at same time as trying to do noble works.. (I've read

biographies that quote him verbatim on sexual hijinks, saying things

that would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so his

soul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)

> Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It's

the last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields to

transitions, like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. First

Jackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then the

DIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly went

overboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exile

them from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed two

Asian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the French

colonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUP

was supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIA

and they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final express

train to Karma ville.

> And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than the

OBAMA ONE. 

>

> IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a

" thousand days " out of it.  JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect,

just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in midheaven

area. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed

(aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a

'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, the

other side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, so

the Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No way

that was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two other

things. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, a

huge  patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes,

dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/ Ascendant was

a big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lying

on the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in 1961.

> THE POPULARITY FACTOR!  BOTH  inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITER

LINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus /

sextile Jupiter. Both have a double spoon of  JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxes

rolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUS

is in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house of

friends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communal

ventures,  government itself.  VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3

Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER.. VEN JUP in my textbook sez " POPULAR " .

Both were.

> JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITER

in*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify the

CONSERVATIVES for a while. In both cases, JUPITER is or was the lord

of the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes the

USA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE,

JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People far

away. SUN is conjunct MERCURY  in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero is

always SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what  KENNEDY had, only

JFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, in

MOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent. 

Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on the

ascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in SCORPIO, the planet of

death in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degree

of merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants were

waiting to kill him. Rent

> " EXECUTIVE ACTION " Burt Lancaster film on the hit.

> The last thing I don't like about OBAMA inaug is that it goes

nowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes no

aspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hidden

enemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon  semisquares Merc/Sun

Wedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits malefics

URANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawn 

and then,  that's all she wrote.  Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn and

the span of that 'event horary' is over.

> SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after,

that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects.. Moon gets a

long chamade of  sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER in 

gregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION. )Does

the change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMA

PRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30 degrees

giving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronounced

with a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all those

goodies.   Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.

> Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in the

FUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in banking

circles, CAPRICORN is the super rich.  That shows up in the unfolding

of the INAUGURATION  HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. As

this conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23

CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs after

the inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.

> Symbolized are Government-instigat ed REMEDIAL measures of some kind

that will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms.

ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will be

shipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city?

Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in the

subway.

> GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY to

WWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safety

net, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.

> If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of the

future of USA  viewed in this chart shows real problems 7 years out

into the second term, probably the Biden administration.

> The rest of the chart  is a bunch of zeros tied to a twenty nine and

that kind of train never gets out of the station. 

>  

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Do they give it to them automatically? When do you tell the Dr.. I mention this yesterday! No she is clear of any STDS and is healthy!! I mean if she had any they would already know so why do they give them that? Oh maybe incase they are having sex with multiple partners. No she is not!! Please give me all info on any thing and why so I can try to talk them into it all!!! I also heard that they give baby a antibotic too! Thats so crazy!! Can you give me names of all meds and stuff and what it is suppose to do per say the Dr.. But then what they do as far as affect the baby. Thanks so much!!--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue wrote:

Amber Boggs <rubyrueRe: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed Moon Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 12:59 PM

 

 

 

Sorry, I am not the one who posted the star thing.

As for Vit K, I would not personally give it. Let me look up the info I have on it for you. I did not give it to my baby, and with the one I am due with in Aug I will not as well. ALso tell her to refuse the Eye dropps to. That is enless she has any form of STD

Amber

 

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debbie wright

 

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Thanks!! No it is my daughter who is haveing baby! But she is doing no Vaccinations! ! The only one which I do not know about is the Vitamin K! Do you know what that is for? He said its for blood clotting!! What about the stars on baby for that month! I have never heard of this what you are talking about for the inguration!! Would like to hear!! Thanks!!--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue (AT) socal (DOT) rr.com> wrote:

Amber Boggs <rubyrue (AT) socal (DOT) rr.com>Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed MoonThursday, January 22, 2009, 12:01 PM

 

 

 

He could stay that way for a long wile. Good luck to you. Are you planning a homebirth?

Amber

 

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debbie wright

 

Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:41 AM

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Can it tell when a baby will be born? He is due Febuary 14 and is already in position? Just wondering how it works!--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:

Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed MoonThursday, January 22, 2009, 9:59 AM

 

 

 

 

That is interesting. ...I bet it would change things considerably. ..--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net>Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed MoonThursday, January 22, 2009, 4:49 AM

Obama had to be "resworn" in yesterday. This would change this chart a lot. I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they please post?

Thanks,

Susan

 

 

On Jan 21, 2009, at 12:26 AM, M.M. wrote:

 

 

 

 

Repost: <Paranormal_Research > Thanks Lucky!

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Obama inaugural horoscope, a train going nowherehttp://www.luckinlo ve.com/obamainau g.htm __._

 

 

,_ THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, the CASE OF THEDOOMED MOON. by Anita Sands http://home. earthlink. net/~astrology/ Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the Obama Regime calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATION CEREMONY. That's when America and Obama pronounce their "I-do's" so it's a kind of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --and certainly, a kind of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the next eight YEARS of American politics will be like. The problem is, there is no eight years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the train leaving the station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few miles out.

Why do I say that? The swearing in is at noon? On the dot? With the MOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, and the worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29th degree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines going nowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was coming to pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know the birth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith, you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Wait twenty. I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me, and rig it differently.

Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutual friend that the husband had dropped dead on the hotel room floor. Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. So let's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklin is late to sing her song and the ceremony gets just 31 minutes beyond the NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep, Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would be harmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquar in nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.

Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE.

TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between 11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS the lord of the hour (ergo chart ruler) in charitable PISCES 17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rules the NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.

VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of excitement and glamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tired aging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriously diminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (In real time, Uran/Sat have been opposed for this past half year and they are still locked in two step.) SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. It rules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house. PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. The CONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped the government's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the bankster thieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz it costs a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day....

Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own against Saturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those two planets' natures don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive, concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms all the time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help you get a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, is about 'you got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phone me.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS, the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as being opposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.

So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of the GREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year, stuck right in the chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .

This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFK INAUGURATION. We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also had VENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON JAN 20th, that happens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOUR RULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK without that SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION. OBAMA is immediately a lot behind JFK!

VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell us that there will be HELP and succor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK did to some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolized a Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers, astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct in PISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.) but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanity it's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelessly smut minded at same time as trying to do noble works. (I've read biographies that quote him verbatim on sexual hijinks, saying things that would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so his soul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)

Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It's the last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields to transitions, like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. First Jackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then the DIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly went overboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exile them from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed two Asian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the French colonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUP was supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIA and they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final express train to Karma ville.

And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than the OBAMA ONE.

IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a "thousand days" out of it. JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect, just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in midheaven area. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed (aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a 'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, the other side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, so the Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No way that was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two other things. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, a huge patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes, dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/ Ascendant was a big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lying on the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in

1961.

THE POPULARITY FACTOR! BOTH inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITER LINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus / sextile Jupiter. Both have a double spoon of JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxes rolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUS is in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house of friends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communal ventures, government itself. VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3 Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER.... VEN JUP in my textbook sez "POPULAR". Both were.

JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITER in*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify the CONSERVATIVES for a while. In both cases, JUPITER is or was the lord of the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes the USA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE, JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People far away. SUN is conjunct MERCURY in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero is always SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what KENNEDY had, only JFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, in MOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent. Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on the ascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in

SCORPIO, the planet of death in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degree of merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants were waiting to kill him. Rent "EXECUTIVE ACTION" Burt Lancaster film on the hit.

The last thing I don't like about OBAMA inaug is that it goes nowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes no aspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hidden enemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon semisquares Merc/Sun Wedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits malefics URANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawn and then, that's all she wrote. Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn and the span of that 'event horary' is over.

SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after, that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects.... Moon gets a long chamade of sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER in gregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION. )Does the change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMA PRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30 degrees giving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronounced with a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all those goodies. Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.

Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in the FUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in banking circles, CAPRICORN is the super rich. That shows up in the unfolding of the INAUGURATION HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. As this conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23 CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs after the inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.

Symbolized are Government-instigat ed REMEDIAL measures of some kind that will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms. ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will be shipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city? Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in the subway.

GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY to WWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safety net, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.

If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of the future of USA viewed in this chart shows real problems 7 years out into the second term, probably the Biden administration.

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He will be cicumsized as the grandma is pushing for it on the daddies side. But as far as circumsized he will have it done a week later! They scared my daughter that he will have a blood internal bleeding and that it scared my daughtrer. She said she wants that one. She is young 18 and is so scared not to do right so I have to find out names and what they do and why. I know she said no to hepatitize one. Can you please inform me when to tell the Dr. that she says no to what and what are her saying to say no and why!! I need all your advice and why. Are you later gonna immuzine? This one lady said do later and opt which ones! Do not know which ones to say yes to! Please tell me all!! I hate meds and have been doing herbs for about 3 years but do not know which ones baby can take and why!! I also want to know if people are telling me to do it that they have

done it!! Not just what they heard!! So I know its safe!! I have seen you on here so I believe you know what your taliking about!! Thanks!! Oh how do you defend that you are not protecting baby from Hepatize or any thing that Drs. think that are fine!!! I do not want these drugs in this baby!! I feel dumb that I did my own!! That was 22 and 18 years ago. But my goodness they are doing even more these days!! I do not remember being asked!!--- On Thu, 1/22/09, mommy2threelilboys <mommyon731 wrote:

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Yes, Vit K is to help the blood clot. I've heard, however, that it's100x the amount that a baby should have. It takes about a week forthe blood to start clotting well. So, if she refuses the Vit K, thenhe should not be circumcised for a week. I personally didn't get theVit K for my last baby. , debbie wright<itsabouttime66@ ...> wrote:>> Thanks!! No it is my daughter who is haveing baby! But she is doingno Vaccinations! ! The only one which I do not know about is theVitamin K! Do you know what that is for? He said its for bloodclotting!! What about the stars on baby for that month! I have neverheard of this what you are talking about for the inguration!! Wouldlike to hear!! Thanks!!> > --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue >

wrote:> > Amber Boggs <rubyrue >> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,the case of the Doomed Moon> > Thursday, January 22, 2009, 12:01 PM> > > > > > > > He could stay that way for a long wile. Good luck to you. Are youplanning a homebirth?> Amber> > - > debbie wright > > Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:41 AM> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,the case of the Doomed Moon> > > > > > Can it tell when a baby will be born? He is due Febuary 14 and isalready in position? Just

wondering how it works!> > --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:> > Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,the case of the Doomed Moon> > Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:59 AM> > > > > > > That is interesting. ...I bet it would change things considerably. ...> > --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:> > Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,the case of the Doomed Moon> > Thursday, January 22, 2009, 4:49 AM> > > Obama had to be "resworn" in yesterday. This

would change thischart a lot. I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they pleasepost? > > > Thanks,> Susan> > > > > On Jan 21, 2009, at 12:26 AM, M.M. wrote:> > > > > > Repost: <Paranormal_ Research > Thanks Lucky!> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___> > Obama inaugural horoscope, a train going nowhere> http://www.luckinlo ve.com/obamainau g.htm __._> > > ,_ > THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, theCASE OF

THEDOOMEDMOON. > by Anita Sands http://home. earthlink. net/~astrology/ > Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the ObamaRegime calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATIONCEREMONY. That's when America and Obama pronounce their "I-do's" soit's a kind of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --andcertainly, a kind of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the nexteight YEARS of American politics will be like. The problem

is, thereis no eight years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the trainleaving the station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few milesout.> Why do I say that? The swearing in is at noon? On the dot? With theMOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, andthe worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29thdegree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines goingnowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was comingto pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know thebirth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith,you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Waittwenty. I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me,and rig it differently.> Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutualfriend that the husband had dropped dead on

the hotel room floor.Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. Solet's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklinis late to sing her song and the ceremony gets just 31 minutes beyondthe NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep,Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would beharmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquarin nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.> Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE.> > TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS the lord of the hour (ergo chartruler) in charitable PISCES 17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rulesthe NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.> VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of

excitement andglamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tiredaging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriouslydiminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (Inreal time, Uran/Sat have been opposed for this past half year and theyare still locked in two step.) SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. Itrules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house.PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. TheCONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped thegovernment's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the banksterthieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz itcosts a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day..> Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own againstSaturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those twoplanets' natures

don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive,concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms allthe time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help youget a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, isabout 'you got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phoneme.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS,the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as being opposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.> So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of theGREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year, stuck right inthe chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .> This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFKINAUGURATION. We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also hadVENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON

JAN 20th, thathappens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOURRULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK withoutthat SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION. OBAMAis immediately a lot behind JFK!> VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell us that there will be HELP andsuccor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK didto some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolizeda Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers,astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct inPISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.)but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanityit's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelesslysmut minded at same time as trying to do noble works.. (I've readbiographies that quote him verbatim on sexual

hijinks, saying thingsthat would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so hissoul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)> Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It'sthe last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields totransitions, like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. FirstJackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then theDIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly wentoverboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exilethem from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed twoAsian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the Frenchcolonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUPwas supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIAand they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final expresstrain to Karma

ville.> And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than theOBAMA ONE. > > IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a"thousand days" out of it. JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect,just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in midheavenarea. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed(aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, theother side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, sothe Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No waythat was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two otherthings. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, ahuge patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes,dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/

Ascendant wasa big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lyingon the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in 1961.> THE POPULARITY FACTOR! BOTH inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITERLINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus /sextile Jupiter. Both have a double spoon of JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxesrolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUSis in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house offriends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communalventures, government itself. VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER.. VEN JUP in my textbook sez "POPULAR".Both were.> JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITERin*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify theCONSERVATIVES for a while. In both

cases, JUPITER is or was the lordof the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes theUSA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE,JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People faraway. SUN is conjunct MERCURY in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero isalways SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what KENNEDY had, onlyJFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, inMOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent. Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on theascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in SCORPIO, the planet ofdeath in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degreeof merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants werewaiting to kill him. Rent> "EXECUTIVE ACTION" Burt Lancaster film on the hit.> The last thing I don't like

about OBAMA inaug is that it goesnowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes noaspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hiddenenemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon semisquares Merc/SunWedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits maleficsURANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawn and then, that's all she wrote. Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn andthe span of that 'event horary' is over.> SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after,that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects.. Moon gets along chamade of sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER in gregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION.. )Doesthe change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMAPRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30

degreesgiving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronouncedwith a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all thosegoodies. Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.> Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in theFUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in bankingcircles, CAPRICORN is the super rich. That shows up in the unfoldingof the INAUGURATION HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. Asthis conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs afterthe inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.> Symbolized are Government-instigat ed REMEDIAL measures of some kindthat will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms.ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will

beshipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city?Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in thesubway.> GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY toWWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safetynet, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.> If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of thefuture of USA viewed in this chart shows real problems 7 years outinto the second term, probably the Biden administration.> The rest of the chart is a bunch of zeros tied to a twenty nine andthat kind of train never gets out of the station. > >«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»> Paranormal_Research - Scientific Data, > Health Conspiracies &

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Grate point. I would incourage not to Serc though.

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" mommy2threelilboys " <mommyon731

 

Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:30 AM

Re: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case

of the Doomed Moon

 

 

Yes, Vit K is to help the blood clot. I've heard, however, that it's

100x the amount that a baby should have. It takes about a week for

the blood to start clotting well. So, if she refuses the Vit K, then

he should not be circumcised for a week. I personally didn't get the

Vit K for my last baby.

 

, debbie wright

<itsabouttime66 wrote:

>

> Thanks!! No it is my daughter who is haveing baby! But she is doing

no Vaccinations!! The only one which I do not know about is the

Vitamin K! Do you know what that is for? He said its for blood

clotting!! What about the stars on baby for that month! I have never

heard of this what you are talking about for the inguration!! Would

like to hear!! Thanks!!

>

> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue wrote:

>

> Amber Boggs <rubyrue

> Re: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,

the case of the Doomed Moon

>

> Thursday, January 22, 2009, 12:01 PM

>

He could stay that way for a long wile. Good luck to you. Are you

planning a homebirth?

> Amber

>

> -

> debbie wright

>

> Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:41 AM

> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,

the case of the Doomed Moon

>

>

>

>

>

> Can it tell when a baby will be born? He is due Febuary 14 and is

already in position? Just wondering how it works!

>

> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:

>

> Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >

> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,

the case of the Doomed Moon

>

> Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:59 AM

That is interesting. ...I bet it would change things considerably. ..

>

> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

>

> Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,

the case of the Doomed Moon

>

> Thursday, January 22, 2009, 4:49 AM

>

>

> Obama had to be " resworn " in yesterday. This would change this

chart a lot. I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they please

post?

>

>

> Thanks,

> Susan

>

>

>

>

> On Jan 21, 2009, at 12:26 AM, M.M. wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> Repost: <Paranormal_Research > Thanks Lucky!

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___

>

> Obama inaugural horoscope, a train going nowhere

> http://www.luckinlo ve.com/obamainau g.htm __._

>

>

> ,_

> THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, the

CASE OF THEDOOMED

MOON.

> by Anita Sands http://home. earthlink. net/~astrology/

> Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the Obama

Regime calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATION

CEREMONY. That's when America and Obama pronounce their " I-do's " so

it's a kind of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --and

certainly, a kind of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the next

eight YEARS of American politics will be like. The problem is, there

is no eight years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the train

leaving the station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few miles

out.

> Why do I say that? The swearing in is at noon? On the dot? With the

MOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, and

the worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29th

degree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines going

nowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was coming

to pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know the

birth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith,

you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Wait

twenty. I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me,

and rig it differently.

> Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutual

friend that the husband had dropped dead on the hotel room floor.

Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. So

let's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklin

is late to sing her song and the ceremony gets just 31 minutes beyond

the NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep,

Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would be

harmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquar

in nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.

> Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE.

>

> TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between

11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS the lord of the hour (ergo chart

ruler) in charitable PISCES 17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rules

the NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.

> VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of excitement and

glamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tired

aging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriously

diminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (In

real time, Uran/Sat have been opposed for this past half year and they

are still locked in two step.) SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. It

rules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house.

PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. The

CONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped the

government's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the bankster

thieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz it

costs a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day..

> Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own against

Saturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those two

planets' natures don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive,

concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms all

the time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help you

get a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, is

about 'you got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phone

me.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS,

the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as being

opposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.

> So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of the

GREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year, stuck right in

the chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .

> This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFK

INAUGURATION. We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also had

VENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON JAN 20th, that

happens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOUR

RULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK without

that SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION. OBAMA

is immediately a lot behind JFK!

> VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell us that there will be HELP and

succor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK did

to some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolized

a Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers,

astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct in

PISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.)

but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanity

it's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelessly

smut minded at same time as trying to do noble works.. (I've read

biographies that quote him verbatim on sexual hijinks, saying things

that would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so his

soul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)

> Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It's

the last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields to

transitions, like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. First

Jackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then the

DIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly went

overboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exile

them from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed two

Asian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the French

colonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUP

was supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIA

and they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final express

train to Karma ville.

> And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than the

OBAMA ONE.

>

> IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a

" thousand days " out of it. JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect,

just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in midheaven

area. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed

(aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a

'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, the

other side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, so

the Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No way

that was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two other

things. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, a

huge patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes,

dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/ Ascendant was

a big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lying

on the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in 1961.

> THE POPULARITY FACTOR! BOTH inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITER

LINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus /

sextile Jupiter. Both have a double spoon of JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxes

rolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUS

is in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house of

friends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communal

ventures, government itself. VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3

Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER.. VEN JUP in my textbook sez " POPULAR " .

Both were.

> JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITER

in*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify the

CONSERVATIVES for a while. In both cases, JUPITER is or was the lord

of the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes the

USA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE,

JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People far

away. SUN is conjunct MERCURY in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero is

always SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what KENNEDY had, only

JFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, in

MOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent.

Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on the

ascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in SCORPIO, the planet of

death in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degree

of merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants were

waiting to kill him. Rent

> " EXECUTIVE ACTION " Burt Lancaster film on the hit.

> The last thing I don't like about OBAMA inaug is that it goes

nowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes no

aspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hidden

enemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon semisquares Merc/Sun

Wedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits malefics

URANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawn

and then, that's all she wrote. Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn and

the span of that 'event horary' is over.

> SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after,

that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects.. Moon gets a

long chamade of sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER in

gregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION. )Does

the change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMA

PRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30 degrees

giving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronounced

with a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all those

goodies. Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.

> Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in the

FUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in banking

circles, CAPRICORN is the super rich. That shows up in the unfolding

of the INAUGURATION HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. As

this conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23

CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs after

the inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.

> Symbolized are Government-instigat ed REMEDIAL measures of some kind

that will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms.

ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will be

shipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city?

Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in the

subway.

> GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY to

WWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safety

net, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.

> If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of the

future of USA viewed in this chart shows real problems 7 years out

into the second term, probably the Biden administration.

> The rest of the chart is a bunch of zeros tied to a twenty nine and

that kind of train never gets out of the station.

>

>

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What is ser c?--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue wrote:

Amber Boggs <rubyrueRe: Re: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed Moon Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 3:01 PM

 

 

Grate point. I would incourage not to Serc though.- "mommy2threelilboys " <mommyon731 ><>Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:30 AM[Health_and_ Healing] Re: ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural, the case of the Doomed MoonYes, Vit K is to help the blood clot. I've heard, however, that it's100x the amount that a baby should have. It takes about a week forthe blood to start clotting well. So, if she refuses the Vit K, thenhe should not be circumcised for a week. I personally didn't get theVit K for my last baby., debbie

wright<itsabouttime66@ ...> wrote:>> Thanks!! No it is my daughter who is haveing baby! But she is doingno Vaccinations! ! The only one which I do not know about is theVitamin K! Do you know what that is for? He said its for bloodclotting!! What about the stars on baby for that month! I have neverheard of this what you are talking about for the inguration!! Wouldlike to hear!! Thanks!!>> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Amber Boggs <rubyrue > wrote:>> Amber Boggs <rubyrue >> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,the case of the Doomed Moon> > Thursday, January 22, 2009, 12:01 PM>>>>>>>> He could stay that way for a long wile. Good

luck to you. Are youplanning a homebirth?> Amber>> - > debbie wright> > Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:41 AM> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,the case of the Doomed Moon>>>>>> Can it tell when a baby will be born? He is due Febuary 14 and isalready in position? Just wondering how it works!>> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ > wrote:>> Bea Bernhausen <beabernhausen@ >> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,the case of the Doomed Moon> > Thursday, January 22, 2009, 9:59 AM>>>>>>> That is interesting. ...I bet it

would change things considerably. ..>> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:>> Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net>> Re: [Health_and_ Healing] ASTROLOGY CHART: Obama Inaugural,the case of the Doomed Moon> > Thursday, January 22, 2009, 4:49 AM>>> Obama had to be "resworn" in yesterday. This would change thischart a lot. I don't know how, but if anyone does, could they pleasepost?>>> Thanks,> Susan>>>>> On Jan 21, 2009, at 12:26 AM, M.M. wrote:>>>>>> Repost: <Paranormal_ Research > Thanks Lucky!> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ ___>> Obama inaugural horoscope, a train going nowhere> http://www.luckinlo ve.com/obamainau g.htm __._>>> ,_> THE INAUGURATION MOMENT OF BARACK OBAMA AND WHAT IT PORTENDS or, theCASE OF THEDOOMEDMOON.> by Anita Sands http://home. earthlink. net/~astrology/> Let's throw the natal chart of the birth of the ObamaRegime calculated from the minute and second of the INAUGURATIONCEREMONY. That's when America and Obama pronounce their "I-do's" soit's a kind of a wedding chart. It's a marriage chart also --andcertainly, a kind of birth chart, a HORARY to interpret what the nexteight YEARS of American politics will be like. The problem is, thereis no eight years. This inauguration seems to me to be just the trainleaving the station and going nowhere. It will be hijacked a few milesout.> Why do I say that? The swearing

in is at noon? On the dot? With theMOON VOID OF COURSE? Worse, the Moon is 29 SCORPIO, a Death sign, andthe worst degree in that sign, an intense death degree, the 29thdegree. Tell you how I know first hand about twenty nines goingnowhere. My rich client was going to Portugal and the limo was comingto pick them up at 11 am to take them to airport. Astrologers know thebirth of the trip is when you leave your front door so I said 'Judith,you can't leave then, 29 Scorpio is rising. Wait ten minutes, Waittwenty. I sent the email saying as much and felt she would hear me,and rig it differently.> Next thing I know, they're in Portugal and I hear from a mutualfriend that the husband had dropped dead on the hotel room floor.Later Judith told me they'd been unable to change departure time. Solet's hope something delays this inauguration! Maybe Arethra Franklinis late to sing her song and the ceremony

gets just 31 minutes beyondthe NOON territory so that MOON IS IN ZERO SAG. (A third zero. Yep,Sun and Merc are Zero Aquarius but MOON ZERO SAGITTARIUS would beharmonious to the other two zeros so he'd 'start something' Sag/Aquarin nature. And a pretty splashy start at that.> Here are the FEATURES of the OBAMA REGIME BIRTH HOROSCOPE.>> TAURUS IS RISING. In any of that 'ballpark' time space between11:25 am and 12:45 PM we have VENUS the lord of the hour (ergo chartruler) in charitable PISCES 17*DEGREES hence the goddess who rulesthe NEW REGIME shows up asSAINTLY, RELIGIOUS, COMPASSIONATE.> VENUS is conjunct URANUS for a serious sprinkle of excitement andglamour. A movie star placement but it's more of a besieged, tiredaging movie star excitement as URANUS' sparkle has been seriouslydiminished by having had her worst enemy (SATURN,) opposed her. (Inreal time, Uran/Sat have been opposed

for this past half year and theyare still locked in two step.) SATURN is Uranus' nemesis planet. Itrules URANUS' 12th house, her 'undoing' house, her death house.PROGRESSIVE ELEMENTS have totally failed to handle the recession. TheCONSERVATIVES led by HANK PAULSON got their way. They stripped thegovernment's coffers of citizen-money to be given to the banksterthieves who already had stripped the planet's coffers. Why? Cuz itcosts a lot to maintain a competitive posh lifestyle. More every day...> Compassionate, alturistic URANUS could not hold its own againstSaturn Banksters being in PISCES a weak sign! And anyway, those twoplanets' natures don't combine. URANUS is radical, progressive,concerned about the little guy, the disenfranchised, giving alms allthe time and is about 'let us help you get a college degree, help youget a job.' SATURN is old fashioned, conservative, dictatorial, isabout 'you

got get your own ass a degree, get a job too then phoneme.' Saturn is the POWERS THAT BE, the oligarch ruler, the BIG BOSS,the BANKERS & the FINANCE world and are symbolized here as beingopposed to progressive URANUS pretty exactly.> So we see Obama dropped right back into the boiling cauldron of theGREAT DEPRESSION that Americ has had for a half year, stuck right inthe chronic sat/uran aspect we've had during the MELTDOWN. .> This makes the OBAMA INAUGURATION a lot worse than the JFKINAUGURATION. We look at Noon 20th Jan, 1961 and see that we also hadVENUS ruling the hour but that's no feat; every NOON JAN 20th, thathappens at noon. Not a surprise. What is a surprise is that VENUS HOURRULER is in the very same degree of PISCES l7* but for JFK withoutthat SATURN recession, conservatives at his heels OPPOSITION. OBAMAis immediately a lot behind JFK!> VENUS IN PISCES in both charts tell

us that there will be HELP andsuccor for the disenfranchised, which PISCES RULES and which JFK didto some extent with Civil Rights. It could be argued PISCES symbolizeda Space program his other achievement, Pisces ruling the ethers,astral dimensions. JFK got Venus and MOON fairly closely conjunct inPISCES ( a religious man with guilts, a Catholic, ruled by Pisces.)but with MOON in degree of insanity, 23 PISCES. DUALITY is insanityit's rumored and he himself was a fish torn both ways being hopelesslysmut minded at same time as trying to do noble works.. (I've readbiographies that quote him verbatim on sexual hijinks, saying thingsthat would make Hugh Hefner blush. His mind was in the gutter, so hissoul had a hard time being effective with holier matters.)> Pisces' ultimate duality is half alive, half not. VERY SICK. It'sthe last sign of the zodiac, the weakest, the one that yields totransitions,

like death, easiest. Death and illness dogged JFK. FirstJackie's baby died while he was off gallivanting with ladies then theDIEM bros in Vietnam got murdered by his CIA who clearly wentoverboard. They were just supposed to exile them from Nam, not exilethem from the planet! They were French Catholics so he'd offed twoAsian Catholics! Brethern. DIEMS had their heads with the Frenchcolonists who'd just been tossed out, ergo were unpopular. The COUPwas supposed to be a 'change the monkey ' routine event for the CIAand they screwed up. Finally, JKF, himself took the final expresstrain to Karma ville.> And here's what's scary. The JFK INAUGURATION PROMISED MORE than theOBAMA ONE.>> IT was not a void of course moon. Much Better! This guy would get a"thousand days" out of it. JFK's INAUGURAL MOON had a final aspect,just not a good one! It would SEMISQUARE MERC in AQUARIUS in

midheavenarea. (brilliant and popular) Moon was 23 PISCES, MERC l0 Fixed(aquar) in midheaven, so they were 45 degrees apart, called a'semisquare' and ASCENDANT l3 fixed, was also semisquare Moon, theother side of 45 degrees. And the big problem -- NEPTUNE l1 SCORP, sothe Moon hit THREE big things, MERCURY, NEPTUNE and ASCENDANT. No waythat was a Void of course Moon JFK had a MALEFIC linked to two otherthings. Not VOC at all. Worse: he flew into a snare, a baited trap, ahuge patchwork of Lies, NEPTUNE in SCORPIO assasination schemes,dirty business, Spies and Death squads. Mercury/Neptune/ Ascendant wasa big hairball that the Destiny Cat had hacked up, one that was lyingon the path of this CAMELOT DESTINY MOMENT INAUGURATION in 1961.> THE POPULARITY FACTOR! BOTH inaugural charts' VENUSES HAVE JUPITERLINKED --Ven/Semisquare Jup for OBAMA's REIGN and JFK's has Venus /sextile Jupiter. Both have a

double spoon of JUPITER ABUNDANCE, taxesrolling in, (Jup lord of 8th house of revenues) money to spend. VENUSis in l7 degrees PISCES, degree of poetry, in the 11th house offriends, allies, also 11th house is all groups, teams, communalventures, government itself. VENUS is exactly semisquare JUPITER 3Aquarius, a powerful JUPITER.. VEN JUP in my textbook sez "POPULAR".Both were.> JFK's VENUS RULER OF THE EVENT was exactly SEXTILE JUPITERin*CAPRICORN conjunct SATURN, so he was able to pacify theCONSERVATIVES for a while. In both cases, JUPITER is or was the lordof the horary's 8th house of getting money owed us. HUH? Who owes theUSA money? Jupiter is in the 9th house of LAWS. Laws for the PEOPLE,JUP in AQUARIUS, 9th is also events in foreign countries. People faraway. SUN is conjunct MERCURY in zero AQUARIUS, 'births'. Zero isalways SOLAR POSITION inauguration day it was what KENNEDY had,

onlyJFK's SUN was exactly quincunx MARS lord of house of ENEMIES, inMOONCHILD. A weak, secret, hidden, silent MARS. Cancer is silent.Another evil omen. JFK had death planet NEPTUNE SMACK on theascendant/ descendant point (on 7th cusp, in SCORPIO, the planet ofdeath in the sign of mayhem, death or threat of it. 12 Scorp is degreeof merchandise, merchants. And ScoRPIO is OIL. The oil merchants werewaiting to kill him. Rent> "EXECUTIVE ACTION" Burt Lancaster film on the hit.> The last thing I don't like about OBAMA inaug is that it goesnowhere. If we progress moon thru the rest of AQUARIUS it makes noaspects. It semisquares MARS which is an attack from enemies, hiddenenemies as Mars is lord of the 12th house. Moon semisquares Merc/SunWedneday afternoons and Jupiter Venus Wednesday night, hits maleficsURANUS and Saturn, the RECESS/DEPRESSION planets Thursday pre-dawnand then, that's all she

wrote. Thurs nite Moon enters Capricorn andthe span of that 'event horary' is over.> SOME GOOD THINGS COMING? If OBAMA gets pronounced at 12:31 or after,that Sagittarius Moon does go on to make great aspects.. Moon gets along chamade of sextiles and semisquares starting with JUPITER ingregarious AQUARIUS an hour and a half after the INAUGURATION. )Doesthe change of moonsign translate to a month and a half into the OBAMAPRESIDENCY? A BIG CHANGE? ) Moon streams thru Sag for 30 degreesgiving the next guy a pair of terms but if BARACK's not pronouncedwith a SAG moon sign instead of SCORPIO, then JOE BIDEN gets all thosegoodies. Barack does not. His inauguration was a DOOMED MOON.> Merc/Mars conjunction in CAPRICORN can be considered to be in theFUTURE of this inaugural horoscope and it indicates anger in bankingcircles, CAPRICORN is the super rich. That shows up in the unfoldingof the

INAUGURATION HORARY, in its future or in its progressions. Asthis conjunction will occur a week after the inauguration in 23CAPRICORN, a degree of 'cruelty,' that would translate to 7 yrs afterthe inauguration and probably in the second term of the BIDEN presidency.> Symbolized are Government-instigat ed REMEDIAL measures of some kindthat will be cruel like putting the homeless people on rural farms.ANYONE caught loitering in a major city sleeping on grates will beshipped to the boonies to grow food. Want to stay in the big city?Don't litter up the sidewalk grates and be seen. Learn to live in thesubway.> GERMANY at the height of the INFLATION (post WWI thru to GATEWAY toWWII,) had poorhouses, an incredibly complex Social Security safetynet, Workers' Pensions to widows and children.> If birth charts show events down the line, a photograph of thefuture of USA viewed in this chart shows real

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