Guest guest Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Hi Lori, Yes what you say is true. I remember back in the 70's how the schools were teaching my kids. and I see how they are doing the grandkids. It is too bad it has come to this. After your message, I received my local newspaper and lo an behold. Here is a article about this same thing. I just cant believe parents would trust their babies to starngers. Here is the article I copyed out. Joan HEAD START NOW ENROLLING INFANTS. 9:03 AM 4/18/2010 HELP-NM, La Excuelita Head Start, is now accepting infants into the local Early Head start Program. The program is open to infants age 6 weeks to 17 months. The program offers active learning experiences, nutritional snacks and meals, nurturing, qualified teachers and family and health services. The services are offered at no cost to parents. For more information, contact La Escuelita Head Start at 1409 Copper Street in Lordsburg,NM . --- On Sat, 4/17/10, Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 wrote:Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42RE: {Herbal Remedies} Pawn"Bryan Schillington" <herbal_remedies >Saturday, April 17, 2010, 8:48 AM Hi Bryan, I believe all the world's leaders are just pawns used by unseen people behind the scenes who call the shots. This is something that has been going on for a long time but most people are either ignorant of it or refuse to believe it. Social engineering has been going on in our schools since at least 1837. In 1837 Boston founded mandatory schools in order to get the street kids off the streets. But it became serious business around 1910 when the compulsory attendance laws went into place in order to homogenize all the immigrants coming into this country. A huge influx of immigrants from many countries, but especially Italy, Germany, and Slavic countries were pouring into America. How to Americanize them? Through the schools. If you go back and read the history of public schools you will find that those who were pushing mandatory schooling (even in the 1800's) were big business leaders who wanted a compliant working class with minimal education (Ford, Carnegie, Morgan, among others), and their agenda was to feed the big factories with the Industrial Revolution. If you also go back in history you will see that our educational system was founded upon the Prussian model (still in effect today in Germany and they still are open with their agenda of molding society to what they want), and it was psychologists who designed the classrooms, the way schools were run, the makings of what modern schooling is today. This is also around the time when schools expanded from 8th grade to 12th grade, keeping kids from being able to work or move on to university (college) until they were much older. It has helped to infantilize our nation over the decades as more and more stringent compulsory laws have come into place. The government has a captive audience with America's kids from roughly age 5 to age 18, though the move in many areas is to get kids in pre-K as young as 2,3 & 4 years of age, with many kids not graduating until age 19 or 20. Many of these kids then go on to college, and many people who've been in daycare/early education programs, public school, then college, many of them have been institutionalized and have been molded by others not their family for 24-30 years of their life! Once a child enters school their parents take a back seat to molding their thinking, character, habits, and ethics. Their teachers and peers become their primary molders in these areas of life, which historically has always been left up to the nuclear family. All we have to do is look at the last 50-60 years or so of public schooling to see how this huge social change has happened in our public school system. No matter what your position is on homosexuality (I am using this particular social agenda since it has seen such a phenomenal growth in acceptance) you can go back in time to when it was outlawed and not publicly accepted, and you can look over the years with how this agenda has slowly been infiltrated in the schools until this lifestyle has become more and more acceptable by the public, mainly the young. Why the young? Because that is where the push for this agenda came from. It started in NYC public schools with the reading of such books as "Heather Has Two Mommies" as part of the kindergarten curriculum in the 1980's, and from there it has mushroomed to where we are now. Not only the public schools, but also the public colleges across the country played a huge hand in changing how the public views homosexuality. You can also go back in time to the "Cold War" when we saw Russia as our enemy and communism as evil. Communism and Marxism has infiltrated our country and is not seen as an enemy to our freedoms any longer. This change happened in our colleges and trickled down into our public schools. It actually began during the Vietnam war and on up into the ensuing decades. It is easy to cause fast social change when the parents no longer control the schools or the curriculum and have no say in what their children will be learning. Even the school boards today are mere puppets for what the state boards of education want as more and more control is filtered down from Washington to the states to the local school districts. Parents think they have a say, but in reality they do not. The only say parents still control is at the ballot box whether they will allow themselves to get soaked for more money or not, and their kids are used as pawns in order to play on parent's heart strings. Notice that when schools want more money they do not get rid of the top-heavy administrators, no, they get rid of the buses, field trips, sports, and teachers in order to make parents feel like their kids are losing. It is monetary blackmail on the part of the schools and the people, like sheep, fall for this nonsense. Parents need to take back their schools, but it is too late. There has been more social change in the past 50 years than there had been in the 150 years before that. The schools were more federalized (until they actually came under the umbrella of the federal government, though this was never supposed to happen) until we have today schools relying on 50% or more of their funding coming from the federal government so that the government pulls all the punches and makes all the rules. We now have standardized testing, attendance laws (tied to federal funds based on average daily attendance), draconian truancy laws that makes criminals out of parents and children, and less local and parental control of our schools. Yes, the social changes have happened in our school system and We the People fell in step and did not see this coming. Those of us who did and who pulled our kids out to home school are a mere drop in the bucket. With a mere 2 million (average) of kids home schooled, the majority of kids are being brainwashed and molded into the social engineered society of a dumbed down populace just as planned by those who work behind the scenes. There are many other social agendas beside the two I listed above (they were easiest to showcase) such as mass promiscuity, drug and alcohol use, gangs, left wing political leanings, and a dumbed down populace, many of who leave school with very low skills and actual learning. We've all experienced evidence of this by clerks who cannot make change from a dollar and get confused if you hand them a penny once they've punched in the dollar amount, to those who cannot reason and cannot accomplish simple tasks without being babysat and walked through like invalids. The infantalization of our young is disheartening, to say the least. My next door neighbor has 2 kids (out of wedlock) is almost 27, but not sure she wants to get married because she "is only 27" and she is too young!!!! If you're not too young to raise kids, then you aren't too young to get married! When she told me this last year I reminded her that 1/3 of her life was gone, so when was she going to get married, at 50? She is exceptionally immature and does not want to grow up. I see it all the time. Who was behind the social engineering of our schools? Who was behind the changes in society? Who wants to take us from a free republic (that has been becoming less free for the past 50 years!) to a Marxist state? Who is behind the One World Order we often hear politicians spouting? (Remember when the first Bush used to use this phrase in 1990?) Who? It is not Obama or Bush Sr. or Castro or Putin. There is someone behind each one of these people, behind most all governments, if not all, including the Muslim countries who also have their own agenda of world domination. There is definitely evil afoot and it has been around for a lot longer than just the past 30-60 years or so. This sleeping giant who has worked diligently behind the scenes for more than 150 years is waking up and has been accelerating the process recently so that we have seen and felt big changes. I fear there are even more big changes on the horizon. My ideologies are rooted in Christianity and the infallibility of scripture based on God's word. I see all this happening as a result of the eventual coming of the AntiChrist, as prophesied in scripture. Others may see it otherwise. No matter how each one of us sees these things, we cannot deny that they are happening, and at an alarming rate. We've been bombarded in the last few years with NAIS, Codex, Obama, Reid, and Pelosi's radical agendas to "change" the nation, Cap and Trade, the FDA becoming more tyrannical and fanatical, the infiltration of the AMA from true doctoring to becoming the world's biggest drug pushers, Big Pharma capturing the medical community through their drugs (the AMA, FDA, and Big Pharma are all tied together), Monsanto and their Frankenseeds so they can control the world's food supply, and so many other things that it boggles the mind to try to remember them all. All these things are working against the average American (and the average person around the world) to change us into who we do not want to become. And these things could not and cannot be orchestrated so perfectly together without there being some kind of a small underground organization behind all of these changes and takeovers. There is a definite plan, a definite agenda, a definite takeover of the world on the horizon before us and we are watching it unfold in all these seemingly unrelated events and happenings from the public school social machine to the Cap and Trade bill. We are on a global march towards complete totalitarianism of the world by unseen movers and shakers who make all the calls behind the puppet leaders of the world. Who are they? I believe the Illuminati, but who are the Illuminati? I've read books about the Illuminati; I believe those who belong to the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR) are also players in this "pawn" game as you call it, and I know there is evil machinations afoot to enslave and defeat us as a nation and as a world. It is huge. The bible speaks of this takeover and the antichrist who will rule evilly. But even the disciples of Christ thought the end was coming in their time, so who knows if it is in ours, though the many prophecies are capable of happening now ("mark" on hand or forehead with a chip, cashless society, the ability of nations to all be ruled by one person, the technology for nuclear war, etc). All we can do is pray, try to fight against all these evil things, stand up for what is right, yank our kids from the public schools or never send them in the first place, vote for those we know will uphold our constitution, learn about herbs and foraging, how to care for ourselves, have self-sufficient skills and pass these down to the next generation, and continue to be the "watchmen on the wall" who speaks out against what we see happening in our country. Gosh, I have written a lot, and yet I have merely scratched the surface and probably sound like a raving lunatic. The issue you raised is too huge, too expanding for any one person to answer your questions with any real clarity or knowledge of the who or what or whys. I believe I know the whos, the whats, the whys, but from a Christian perspective that would sound looney to most on here, and so I will retain them to myself, but the evil One of this world is definitely afoot and behind the scenes of what is going on. At least I will have given you some food for thought. You may not agree with all I've written (nor others!), and that is okay, but I think that we all agree there is definitely an evil plan to change America from a republic to a tyranny. Blessings~ Lori "By preventing a free market in education, a handful of social engineers - backed by the industries that profit from compulsory schooling: teacher colleges, textbook publishers, materials suppliers, et al. - has ensured that most of our children will not have an education, even though they may be thoroughly schooled."– John Taylor Gatto He who cultivates his land will have plenty of food, but from idle pursuits a man has his fill of poverty. Proverbs 28:19 herbal remediesbryan@academyofnatu ralhealing. comFri, 16 Apr 2010 17:43:02 -0400{Herbal Remedies} PawnWe the people sometimes feel like the little pawn but were not. In this incredibly large game we must be less than pawns, only spectators, but together we have great power..... right?Our country's leader is only a pawn as with Britain's Prime Minster. Believe just for a minute that this is the case and that our president is only a piece being played.It hardly matters who's a rook or a knight or who's the queen because they are all only pieces and all pieces are controlled by the player.So who are the players? He who controls the advertising gets to chose who becomes leader of voting countries. We know that. Its plain as day.TV, Radio and Internet have the eyes and ears of the masses. He with enough money chooses who gets to be the next pawn thus manipulates the game.I'm only 22 and am rather inexperienced in this game. Maybe you older, wiser, more experienced spectators can answer my question. I'm not concerned with pawns. They're easy enough to spot but who are these players?Who are the players?~B The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 yep they want them younger and younger. I did not start school until 1st grade at age 6. My children were expected to begin at age 5 in what used to be considered pre-school AKA kindergarten. Now there is pre-k and pre-k 3? In my state pre-k programs were removed from schools and are now only allowed in day care centers. I can only guess it's to get the bridge between day centers and schools seamless and the time lines blurred. The only possible eventuality is that our babies will be expected to be " in school " before their 1st birthday. What's the problem with that? Don't you know it'll be free? (imagine the truancy laws being enforced because you haven't put your 10 month old in school yet) Additionally, has anyone noticed that the school day itself is getting longer and longer? Remember coming home for lunch? Now the kids get breakfast and lunch at school (free) and I am sure that supper is coming soon. The next to go will be summer break. No wonder they hate homeschooling! They'll never get their paws on my kids! Anella On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:31 AM, JoanKuehn <geminipackrat wrote: Hi Lori, Yes what you say is true. I remember back in the 70's how the schools were teaching my kids. and I see how they are doing the grandkids. It is too bad it has come to this. After your message, I received my local newspaper and lo an behold. Here is a article about this same thing. I just cant believe parents would trust their babies to starngers. Here is the article I copyed out. Joan HEAD START NOW ENROLLING INFANTS. 9:03 AM 4/18/2010 HELP-NM, La Excuelita Head Start, is now accepting infants into the local Early Head start Program. The program is open to infants age 6 weeks to 17 months. The program offers active learning experiences, nutritional snacks and meals, nurturing, qualified teachers and family and health services. The services are offered at no cost to parents. For more information, contact La Escuelita Head Start at 1409 Copper Street in Lordsburg,NM . --- On Sat, 4/17/10, Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 wrote:Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 RE: {Herbal Remedies} Pawn " Bryan Schillington " <herbal_remedies >Saturday, April 17, 2010, 8:48 AM Hi Bryan, I believe all the world's leaders are just pawns used by unseen people behind the scenes who call the shots. This is something that has been going on for a long time but most people are either ignorant of it or refuse to believe it. Social engineering has been going on in our schools since at least 1837. In 1837 Boston founded mandatory schools in order to get the street kids off the streets. But it became serious business around 1910 when the compulsory attendance laws went into place in order to homogenize all the immigrants coming into this country. A huge influx of immigrants from many countries, but especially Italy, Germany, and Slavic countries were pouring into America. How to Americanize them? Through the schools. If you go back and read the history of public schools you will find that those who were pushing mandatory schooling (even in the 1800's) were big business leaders who wanted a compliant working class with minimal education (Ford, Carnegie, Morgan, among others), and their agenda was to feed the big factories with the Industrial Revolution. If you also go back in history you will see that our educational system was founded upon the Prussian model (still in effect today in Germany and they still are open with their agenda of molding society to what they want), and it was psychologists who designed the classrooms, the way schools were run, the makings of what modern schooling is today. This is also around the time when schools expanded from 8th grade to 12th grade, keeping kids from being able to work or move on to university (college) until they were much older. It has helped to infantilize our nation over the decades as more and more stringent compulsory laws have come into place. The government has a captive audience with America's kids from roughly age 5 to age 18, though the move in many areas is to get kids in pre-K as young as 2,3 & 4 years of age, with many kids not graduating until age 19 or 20. Many of these kids then go on to college, and many people who've been in daycare/early education programs, public school, then college, many of them have been institutionalized and have been molded by others not their family for 24-30 years of their life! Once a child enters school their parents take a back seat to molding their thinking, character, habits, and ethics. Their teachers and peers become their primary molders in these areas of life, which historically has always been left up to the nuclear family. All we have to do is look at the last 50-60 years or so of public schooling to see how this huge social change has happened in our public school system. No matter what your position is on homosexuality (I am using this particular social agenda since it has seen such a phenomenal growth in acceptance) you can go back in time to when it was outlawed and not publicly accepted, and you can look over the years with how this agenda has slowly been infiltrated in the schools until this lifestyle has become more and more acceptable by the public, mainly the young. Why the young? Because that is where the push for this agenda came from. It started in NYC public schools with the reading of such books as " Heather Has Two Mommies " as part of the kindergarten curriculum in the 1980's, and from there it has mushroomed to where we are now. Not only the public schools, but also the public colleges across the country played a huge hand in changing how the public views homosexuality. You can also go back in time to the " Cold War " when we saw Russia as our enemy and communism as evil. Communism and Marxism has infiltrated our country and is not seen as an enemy to our freedoms any longer. This change happened in our colleges and trickled down into our public schools. It actually began during the Vietnam war and on up into the ensuing decades. It is easy to cause fast social change when the parents no longer control the schools or the curriculum and have no say in what their children will be learning. Even the school boards today are mere puppets for what the state boards of education want as more and more control is filtered down from Washington to the states to the local school districts. Parents think they have a say, but in reality they do not. The only say parents still control is at the ballot box whether they will allow themselves to get soaked for more money or not, and their kids are used as pawns in order to play on parent's heart strings. Notice that when schools want more money they do not get rid of the top-heavy administrators, no, they get rid of the buses, field trips, sports, and teachers in order to make parents feel like their kids are losing. It is monetary blackmail on the part of the schools and the people, like sheep, fall for this nonsense. Parents need to take back their schools, but it is too late. There has been more social change in the past 50 years than there had been in the 150 years before that. The schools were more federalized (until they actually came under the umbrella of the federal government, though this was never supposed to happen) until we have today schools relying on 50% or more of their funding coming from the federal government so that the government pulls all the punches and makes all the rules. We now have standardized testing, attendance laws (tied to federal funds based on average daily attendance), draconian truancy laws that makes criminals out of parents and children, and less local and parental control of our schools. Yes, the social changes have happened in our school system and We the People fell in step and did not see this coming. Those of us who did and who pulled our kids out to home school are a mere drop in the bucket. With a mere 2 million (average) of kids home schooled, the majority of kids are being brainwashed and molded into the social engineered society of a dumbed down populace just as planned by those who work behind the scenes. There are many other social agendas beside the two I listed above (they were easiest to showcase) such as mass promiscuity, drug and alcohol use, gangs, left wing political leanings, and a dumbed down populace, many of who leave school with very low skills and actual learning. We've all experienced evidence of this by clerks who cannot make change from a dollar and get confused if you hand them a penny once they've punched in the dollar amount, to those who cannot reason and cannot accomplish simple tasks without being babysat and walked through like invalids. The infantalization of our young is disheartening, to say the least. My next door neighbor has 2 kids (out of wedlock) is almost 27, but not sure she wants to get married because she " is only 27 " and she is too young!!!! If you're not too young to raise kids, then you aren't too young to get married! When she told me this last year I reminded her that 1/3 of her life was gone, so when was she going to get married, at 50? She is exceptionally immature and does not want to grow up. I see it all the time. Who was behind the social engineering of our schools? Who was behind the changes in society? Who wants to take us from a free republic (that has been becoming less free for the past 50 years!) to a Marxist state? Who is behind the One World Order we often hear politicians spouting? (Remember when the first Bush used to use this phrase in 1990?) Who? It is not Obama or Bush Sr. or Castro or Putin. There is someone behind each one of these people, behind most all governments, if not all, including the Muslim countries who also have their own agenda of world domination. There is definitely evil afoot and it has been around for a lot longer than just the past 30-60 years or so. This sleeping giant who has worked diligently behind the scenes for more than 150 years is waking up and has been accelerating the process recently so that we have seen and felt big changes. I fear there are even more big changes on the horizon. My ideologies are rooted in Christianity and the infallibility of scripture based on God's word. I see all this happening as a result of the eventual coming of the AntiChrist, as prophesied in scripture. Others may see it otherwise. No matter how each one of us sees these things, we cannot deny that they are happening, and at an alarming rate. We've been bombarded in the last few years with NAIS, Codex, Obama, Reid, and Pelosi's radical agendas to " change " the nation, Cap and Trade, the FDA becoming more tyrannical and fanatical, the infiltration of the AMA from true doctoring to becoming the world's biggest drug pushers, Big Pharma capturing the medical community through their drugs (the AMA, FDA, and Big Pharma are all tied together), Monsanto and their Frankenseeds so they can control the world's food supply, and so many other things that it boggles the mind to try to remember them all. All these things are working against the average American (and the average person around the world) to change us into who we do not want to become. And these things could not and cannot be orchestrated so perfectly together without there being some kind of a small underground organization behind all of these changes and takeovers. There is a definite plan, a definite agenda, a definite takeover of the world on the horizon before us and we are watching it unfold in all these seemingly unrelated events and happenings from the public school social machine to the Cap and Trade bill. We are on a global march towards complete totalitarianism of the world by unseen movers and shakers who make all the calls behind the puppet leaders of the world. Who are they? I believe the Illuminati, but who are the Illuminati? I've read books about the Illuminati; I believe those who belong to the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR) are also players in this " pawn " game as you call it, and I know there is evil machinations afoot to enslave and defeat us as a nation and as a world. It is huge. The bible speaks of this takeover and the antichrist who will rule evilly. But even the disciples of Christ thought the end was coming in their time, so who knows if it is in ours, though the many prophecies are capable of happening now ( " mark " on hand or forehead with a chip, cashless society, the ability of nations to all be ruled by one person, the technology for nuclear war, etc). All we can do is pray, try to fight against all these evil things, stand up for what is right, yank our kids from the public schools or never send them in the first place, vote for those we know will uphold our constitution, learn about herbs and foraging, how to care for ourselves, have self-sufficient skills and pass these down to the next generation, and continue to be the " watchmen on the wall " who speaks out against what we see happening in our country. Gosh, I have written a lot, and yet I have merely scratched the surface and probably sound like a raving lunatic. The issue you raised is too huge, too expanding for any one person to answer your questions with any real clarity or knowledge of the who or what or whys. I believe I know the whos, the whats, the whys, but from a Christian perspective that would sound looney to most on here, and so I will retain them to myself, but the evil One of this world is definitely afoot and behind the scenes of what is going on. At least I will have given you some food for thought. You may not agree with all I've written (nor others!), and that is okay, but I think that we all agree there is definitely an evil plan to change America from a republic to a tyranny. Blessings~ Lori " By preventing a free market in education, a handful of social engineers - backed by the industries that profit from compulsory schooling: teacher colleges, textbook publishers, materials suppliers, et al. - has ensured that most of our children will not have an education, even though they may be thoroughly schooled. " – John Taylor Gatto He who cultivates his land will have plenty of food, but from idle pursuits a man has his fill of poverty. Proverbs 28:19 herbal remediesbryan@academyofnatu ralhealing. comFri, 16 Apr 2010 17:43:02 -0400{Herbal Remedies} Pawn We the people sometimes feel like the little pawn but were not. In this incredibly large game we must be less than pawns, only spectators, but together we have great power..... right?Our country's leader is only a pawn as with Britain's Prime Minster. Believe just for a minute that this is the case and that our president is only a piece being played. It hardly matters who's a rook or a knight or who's the queen because they are all only pieces and all pieces are controlled by the player.So who are the players? He who controls the advertising gets to chose who becomes leader of voting countries. We know that. Its plain as day. TV, Radio and Internet have the eyes and ears of the masses. He with enough money chooses who gets to be the next pawn thus manipulates the game.I'm only 22 and am rather inexperienced in this game. Maybe you older, wiser, more experienced spectators can answer my question. I'm not concerned with pawns. They're easy enough to spot but who are these players?Who are the players?~B The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. Get busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Joan and Annello, It is so scary how people so easily hand over their kids!!!! The reality really hit me when I read these words (among others!) written by Gatto: "You aren’t compelled to loan your car to anyone who wants it, but you are compelled to surrender your school-age child to strangers who process children for a livelihood, even though one in every nine schoolchildren is terrified of physical harm happening to them in school, terrified with good cause; about thirty-three are murdered there every year. From 1992 through 1999, 262 children were murdered in school in the United States. Your great-great-grandmother didn’t have to surrender her children. What happened? If I demanded you give up your television to an anonymous, itinerant repairman who needed work you’d think I was crazy; if I came with a policeman who forced you to pay that repairman even after he broke your set, you would be outraged. Why are you so docile when you give up your child to a government agent called a schoolteacher?" (Taken from "Bianca, You Animal, Shut Up) I believe he really puts things into perspective with those words! I have been influenced by many other writers also, such as the Colfax's, John Holt, Grace Llewellyn, and too many more to name. Mainly, I have been influenced by God, my own experiences, my family, and my kids. Both of you are right, they want our kids. In the words of Hitler: “He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.” Governments know what they are about when they have compulsory education, they want control of the masses. So glad so many people are aware of this!!! Blessings~ Lori "By preventing a free market in education, a handful of social engineers - backed by the industries that profit from compulsory schooling: teacher colleges, textbook publishers, materials suppliers, et al. - has ensured that most of our children will not have an education, even though they may be thoroughly schooled."– John Taylor Gatto He who cultivates his land will have plenty of food, but from idle pursuits a man has his fill of poverty. Proverbs 28:19 herbal remedies From: anellarussoDate: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 13:10:27 -0400Re: {Herbal Remedies} Pawn to Lori yep they want them younger and younger. I did not start school until 1st grade at age 6. My children were expected to begin at age 5 in what used to be considered pre-school AKA kindergarten. Now there is pre-k and pre-k 3? In my state pre-k programs were removed from schools and are now only allowed in day care centers. I can only guess it's to get the bridge between day centers and schools seamless and the time lines blurred. The only possible eventuality is that our babies will be expected to be "in school" before their 1st birthday. What's the problem with that? Don't you know it'll be free? (imagine the truancy laws being enforced because you haven't put your 10 month old in school yet) Additionally, has anyone noticed that the school day itself is getting longer and longer? Remember coming home for lunch? Now the kids get breakfast and lunch at school (free) and I am sure that supper is coming soon. The next to go will be summer break. No wonder they hate homeschooling! They'll never get their paws on my kids! Anella On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:31 AM, JoanKuehn <geminipackrat > wrote: Hi Lori, Yes what you say is true. I remember back in the 70's how the schools were teaching my kids. and I see how they are doing the grandkids. It is too bad it has come to this. After your message, I received my local newspaper and lo an behold. Here is a article about this same thing. I just cant believe parents would trust their babies to starngers. Here is the article I copyed out. Joan HEAD START NOW ENROLLING INFANTS. 9:03 AM 4/18/2010 HELP-NM, La Excuelita Head Start, is now accepting infants into the local Early Head start Program. The program is open to infants age 6 weeks to 17 months. The program offers active learning experiences, nutritional snacks and meals, nurturing, qualified teachers and family and health services. The services are offered at no cost to parents. For more information, contact La Escuelita Head Start at 1409 Copper Street in Lordsburg,NM . --- On Sat, 4/17/10, Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>RE: {Herbal Remedies} Pawn"Bryan Schillington" <herbal_remedies >Saturday, April 17, 2010, 8:48 AM Hi Bryan, I believe all the world's leaders are just pawns used by unseen people behind the scenes who call the shots. This is something that has been going on for a long time but most people are either ignorant of it or refuse to believe it. Social engineering has been going on in our schools since at least 1837. In 1837 Boston founded mandatory schools in order to get the street kids off the streets. But it became serious business around 1910 when the compulsory attendance laws went into place in order to homogenize all the immigrants coming into this country. A huge influx of immigrants from many countries, but especially Italy, Germany, and Slavic countries were pouring into America. How to Americanize them? Through the schools. If you go back and read the history of public schools you will find that those who were pushing mandatory schooling (even in the 1800's) were big business leaders who wanted a compliant working class with minimal education (Ford, Carnegie, Morgan, among others), and their agenda was to feed the big factories with the Industrial Revolution. If you also go back in history you will see that our educational system was founded upon the Prussian model (still in effect today in Germany and they still are open with their agenda of molding society to what they want), and it was psychologists who designed the classrooms, the way schools were run, the makings of what modern schooling is today. This is also around the time when schools expanded from 8th grade to 12th grade, keeping kids from being able to work or move on to university (college) until they were much older. It has helped to infantilize our nation over the decades as more and more stringent compulsory laws have come into place. The government has a captive audience with America's kids from roughly age 5 to age 18, though the move in many areas is to get kids in pre-K as young as 2,3 & 4 years of age, with many kids not graduating until age 19 or 20. Many of these kids then go on to college, and many people who've been in daycare/early education programs, public school, then college, many of them have been institutionalized and have been molded by others not their family for 24-30 years of their life! Once a child enters school their parents take a back seat to molding their thinking, character, habits, and ethics. Their teachers and peers become their primary molders in these areas of life, which historically has always been left up to the nuclear family. All we have to do is look at the last 50-60 years or so of public schooling to see how this huge social change has happened in our public school system. No matter what your position is on homosexuality (I am using this particular social agenda since it has seen such a phenomenal growth in acceptance) you can go back in time to when it was outlawed and not publicly accepted, and you can look over the years with how this agenda has slowly been infiltrated in the schools until this lifestyle has become more and more acceptable by the public, mainly the young. Why the young? Because that is where the push for this agenda came from. It started in NYC public schools with the reading of such books as "Heather Has Two Mommies" as part of the kindergarten curriculum in the 1980's, and from there it has mushroomed to where we are now. Not only the public schools, but also the public colleges across the country played a huge hand in changing how the public views homosexuality. You can also go back in time to the "Cold War" when we saw Russia as our enemy and communism as evil. Communism and Marxism has infiltrated our country and is not seen as an enemy to our freedoms any longer. This change happened in our colleges and trickled down into our public schools. It actually began during the Vietnam war and on up into the ensuing decades. It is easy to cause fast social change when the parents no longer control the schools or the curriculum and have no say in what their children will be learning. Even the school boards today are mere puppets for what the state boards of education want as more and more control is filtered down from Washington to the states to the local school districts. Parents think they have a say, but in reality they do not. The only say parents still control is at the ballot box whether they will allow themselves to get soaked for more money or not, and their kids are used as pawns in order to play on parent's heart strings. Notice that when schools want more money they do not get rid of the top-heavy administrators, no, they get rid of the buses, field trips, sports, and teachers in order to make parents feel like their kids are losing. It is monetary blackmail on the part of the schools and the people, like sheep, fall for this nonsense. Parents need to take back their schools, but it is too late. There has been more social change in the past 50 years than there had been in the 150 years before that. The schools were more federalized (until they actually came under the umbrella of the federal government, though this was never supposed to happen) until we have today schools relying on 50% or more of their funding coming from the federal government so that the government pulls all the punches and makes all the rules. We now have standardized testing, attendance laws (tied to federal funds based on average daily attendance), draconian truancy laws that makes criminals out of parents and children, and less local and parental control of our schools. Yes, the social changes have happened in our school system and We the People fell in step and did not see this coming. Those of us who did and who pulled our kids out to home school are a mere drop in the bucket. With a mere 2 million (average) of kids home schooled, the majority of kids are being brainwashed and molded into the social engineered society of a dumbed down populace just as planned by those who work behind the scenes. There are many other social agendas beside the two I listed above (they were easiest to showcase) such as mass promiscuity, drug and alcohol use, gangs, left wing political leanings, and a dumbed down populace, many of who leave school with very low skills and actual learning. We've all experienced evidence of this by clerks who cannot make change from a dollar and get confused if you hand them a penny once they've punched in the dollar amount, to those who cannot reason and cannot accomplish simple tasks without being babysat and walked through like invalids. The infantalization of our young is disheartening, to say the least. My next door neighbor has 2 kids (out of wedlock) is almost 27, but not sure she wants to get married because she "is only 27" and she is too young!!!! If you're not too young to raise kids, then you aren't too young to get married! When she told me this last year I reminded her that 1/3 of her life was gone, so when was she going to get married, at 50? She is exceptionally immature and does not want to grow up. I see it all the time. Who was behind the social engineering of our schools? Who was behind the changes in society? Who wants to take us from a free republic (that has been becoming less free for the past 50 years!) to a Marxist state? Who is behind the One World Order we often hear politicians spouting? (Remember when the first Bush used to use this phrase in 1990?) Who? It is not Obama or Bush Sr. or Castro or Putin. There is someone behind each one of these people, behind most all governments, if not all, including the Muslim countries who also have their own agenda of world domination. There is definitely evil afoot and it has been around for a lot longer than just the past 30-60 years or so. This sleeping giant who has worked diligently behind the scenes for more than 150 years is waking up and has been accelerating the process recently so that we have seen and felt big changes. I fear there are even more big changes on the horizon. My ideologies are rooted in Christianity and the infallibility of scripture based on God's word. I see all this happening as a result of the eventual coming of the AntiChrist, as prophesied in scripture. Others may see it otherwise. No matter how each one of us sees these things, we cannot deny that they are happening, and at an alarming rate. We've been bombarded in the last few years with NAIS, Codex, Obama, Reid, and Pelosi's radical agendas to "change" the nation, Cap and Trade, the FDA becoming more tyrannical and fanatical, the infiltration of the AMA from true doctoring to becoming the world's biggest drug pushers, Big Pharma capturing the medical community through their drugs (the AMA, FDA, and Big Pharma are all tied together), Monsanto and their Frankenseeds so they can control the world's food supply, and so many other things that it boggles the mind to try to remember them all. All these things are working against the average American (and the average person around the world) to change us into who we do not want to become. And these things could not and cannot be orchestrated so perfectly together without there being some kind of a small underground organization behind all of these changes and takeovers. There is a definite plan, a definite agenda, a definite takeover of the world on the horizon before us and we are watching it unfold in all these seemingly unrelated events and happenings from the public school social machine to the Cap and Trade bill. We are on a global march towards complete totalitarianism of the world by unseen movers and shakers who make all the calls behind the puppet leaders of the world. Who are they? I believe the Illuminati, but who are the Illuminati? I've read books about the Illuminati; I believe those who belong to the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR) are also players in this "pawn" game as you call it, and I know there is evil machinations afoot to enslave and defeat us as a nation and as a world. It is huge. The bible speaks of this takeover and the antichrist who will rule evilly. But even the disciples of Christ thought the end was coming in their time, so who knows if it is in ours, though the many prophecies are capable of happening now ("mark" on hand or forehead with a chip, cashless society, the ability of nations to all be ruled by one person, the technology for nuclear war, etc). All we can do is pray, try to fight against all these evil things, stand up for what is right, yank our kids from the public schools or never send them in the first place, vote for those we know will uphold our constitution, learn about herbs and foraging, how to care for ourselves, have self-sufficient skills and pass these down to the next generation, and continue to be the "watchmen on the wall" who speaks out against what we see happening in our country. Gosh, I have written a lot, and yet I have merely scratched the surface and probably sound like a raving lunatic. The issue you raised is too huge, too expanding for any one person to answer your questions with any real clarity or knowledge of the who or what or whys. I believe I know the whos, the whats, the whys, but from a Christian perspective that would sound looney to most on here, and so I will retain them to myself, but the evil One of this world is definitely afoot and behind the scenes of what is going on. At least I will have given you some food for thought. You may not agree with all I've written (nor others!), and that is okay, but I think that we all agree there is definitely an evil plan to change America from a republic to a tyranny. Blessings~ Lori "By preventing a free market in education, a handful of social engineers - backed by the industries that profit from compulsory schooling: teacher colleges, textbook publishers, materials suppliers, et al. - has ensured that most of our children will not have an education, even though they may be thoroughly schooled."– John Taylor Gatto He who cultivates his land will have plenty of food, but from idle pursuits a man has his fill of poverty. Proverbs 28:19 herbal remediesbryan@academyofnatu ralhealing. comFri, 16 Apr 2010 17:43:02 -0400{Herbal Remedies} PawnWe the people sometimes feel like the little pawn but were not. In this incredibly large game we must be less than pawns, only spectators, but together we have great power..... right?Our country's leader is only a pawn as with Britain's Prime Minster. Believe just for a minute that this is the case and that our president is only a piece being played.It hardly matters who's a rook or a knight or who's the queen because they are all only pieces and all pieces are controlled by the player.So who are the players? He who controls the advertising gets to chose who becomes leader of voting countries. We know that. Its plain as day.TV, Radio and Internet have the eyes and ears of the masses. He with enough money chooses who gets to be the next pawn thus manipulates the game.I'm only 22 and am rather inexperienced in this game. Maybe you older, wiser, more experienced spectators can answer my question. I'm not concerned with pawns. They're easy enough to spot but who are these players?Who are the players?~B The New Busy is not the too busy. 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Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Not only that but they are getting rid of recess and lunch. My daughter has only 15 minutes or so for lunch. She gets to bolt whatever she can in that time. Bleah. Recess is the same. They are not at the same time for 45 minutes and you had all the time you wanted to eat and the rest to play. Nope. One must stay with each for a disciplined amount of time. UGH!!! I would love to toss the whole system someday, but for now, I know my limits and I can't give her all the help her special needs require at home. Maybe someday. Ramona Quoting Anella Russo <anellarusso: > yep they want them younger and younger. I did not start school until 1st > grade at age 6. My children were expected to begin at age 5 in what used to > be considered pre-school AKA kindergarten. Now there is pre-k and pre-k 3? > In my state pre-k programs were removed from schools and are now only > allowed in day care centers. I can only guess it's to get the bridge > between day centers and schools seamless and the time lines blurred. The > only possible eventuality is that our babies will be expected to be " in > school " before their 1st birthday. What's the problem with that? Don't you > know it'll be free? (imagine the truancy laws being enforced because you > haven't put your 10 month old in school yet) > Additionally, has anyone noticed that the school day itself is getting > longer and longer? Remember coming home for lunch? Now the kids get > breakfast and lunch at school (free) and I am sure that supper is coming > soon. > The next to go will be summer break. > No wonder they hate homeschooling! They'll never get their paws on my > kids! > Anella > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:31 AM, JoanKuehn <geminipackrat wrote: > >> >> Hi Lori, Yes what you say is true. I remember back in the 70's how the >> schools were teaching my kids. and I see how they are doing the grandkids. >> It is too bad it has come to this. >> After your message, I received my local newspaper and lo an behold. >> Here is a article about this same thing. I just cant believe parents would >> trust their babies to starngers. Here is the article I copyed out. >> Joan >> >> >> HEAD START NOW ENROLLING INFANTS. 9:03 AM 4/18/2010 >> HELP-NM, La Excuelita Head Start, is now accepting infants into >> the local Early Head start Program. >> The program is open to infants age 6 weeks to 17 months. >> The program offers active learning experiences, nutritional snacks >> and meals, nurturing, qualified teachers and family and health services. >> The services are offered at no cost to parents. For more information, >> contact La Escuelita Head Start at 1409 Copper Street in Lordsburg,NM . >> >> >> --- On *Sat, 4/17/10, Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42* wrote: >> >> Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 >> RE: {Herbal Remedies} Pawn >> " Bryan Schillington " <herbal_remedies > >> Saturday, April 17, 2010, 8:48 AM >> >> >> Hi Bryan, >> >> I believe all the world's leaders are just pawns used by unseen people >> behind the scenes who call the shots. This is something that has been going >> on for a long time but most people are either ignorant of it or refuse to >> believe it. >> >> Social engineering has been going on in our schools since at least 1837. In >> 1837 Boston founded mandatory schools in order to get the street kids off >> the streets. But it became serious business around 1910 when the compulsory >> attendance laws went into place in order to homogenize all the immigrants >> coming into this country. A huge influx of immigrants from many countries, >> but especially Italy, Germany, and Slavic countries were pouring into >> America. How to Americanize them? Through the schools. >> >> If you go back and read the history of public schools you will find that >> those who were pushing mandatory schooling (even in the 1800's) were big >> business leaders who wanted a compliant working class with minimal education >> (Ford, Carnegie, Morgan, among others), and their agenda was to feed the >> big factories with the Industrial Revolution. >> >> If you also go back in history you will see that our educational system was >> founded upon the Prussian model (still in effect today in Germany and they >> still are open with their agenda of molding society to what they want), and >> it was psychologists who designed the classrooms, the way schools were run, >> the makings of what modern schooling is today. This is also around the time >> when schools expanded from 8th grade to 12th grade, keeping kids from being >> able to work or move on to university (college) until they were much older. >> It has helped to infantilize our nation over the decades as more and more >> stringent compulsory laws have come into place. >> >> The government has a captive audience with America's kids from roughly age >> 5 to age 18, though the move in many areas is to get kids in pre-K as young >> as 2,3 & 4 years of age, with many kids not graduating until age 19 or 20. >> Many of these kids then go on to college, and many people who've been in >> daycare/early education programs, public school, then college, many of them >> have been institutionalized and have been molded by others not their family >> for 24-30 years of their life! Once a child enters school their parents take >> a back seat to molding their thinking, character, habits, and ethics. Their >> teachers and peers become their primary molders in these areas of life, >> which historically has always been left up to the nuclear family. >> >> All we have to do is look at the last 50-60 years or so of public schooling >> to see how this huge social change has happened in our public school system. >> No matter what your position is on homosexuality (I am using this particular >> social agenda since it has seen such a phenomenal growth in acceptance) you >> can go back in time to when it was outlawed and not publicly accepted, and >> you can look over the years with how this agenda has slowly been infiltrated >> in the schools until this lifestyle has become more and more acceptable by >> the public, mainly the young. Why the young? Because that is where the push >> for this agenda came from. It started in NYC public schools with the reading >> of such books as " Heather Has Two Mommies " as part of the kindergarten >> curriculum in the 1980's, and from there it has mushroomed to where we are >> now. Not only the public schools, but also the public colleges across the >> country played a huge hand in changing how the public views homosexuality. >> >> You can also go back in time to the " Cold War " when we saw Russia as our >> enemy and communism as evil. Communism and Marxism has infiltrated our >> country and is not seen as an enemy to our freedoms any longer. This change >> happened in our colleges and trickled down into our public schools. It >> actually began during the Vietnam war and on up into the ensuing decades. It >> is easy to cause fast social change when the parents no longer control the >> schools or the curriculum and have no say in what their children will be >> learning. Even the school boards today are mere puppets for what the >> state boards of education want as more and more control is filtered down >> from Washington to the states to the local school districts. Parents >> think they have a say, but in reality they do not. The only say parents >> still control is at the ballot box whether they will allow themselves to get >> soaked for more money or not, and their kids are used as pawns in order >> to play on parent's heart strings. Notice that when schools want more money >> they do not get rid of the top-heavy administrators, no, they get rid of the >> buses, field trips, sports, and teachers in order to make parents feel like >> their kids are losing. It is monetary blackmail on the part of the schools >> and the people, like sheep, fall for this nonsense. Parents need to take >> back their schools, but it is too late. >> >> There has been more social change in the past 50 years than there had been >> in the 150 years before that. The schools were more federalized (until they >> actually came under the umbrella of the federal government, though this was >> never supposed to happen) until we have today schools relying on 50% or more >> of their funding coming from the federal government so that the government >> pulls all the punches and makes all the rules. We now have standardized >> testing, attendance laws (tied to federal funds based on average daily >> attendance), draconian truancy laws that makes criminals out of parents and >> children, and less local and parental control of our schools. >> >> Yes, the social changes have happened in our school system and We the >> People fell in step and did not see this coming. Those of us who did and who >> pulled our kids out to home school are a mere drop in the bucket. With a >> mere 2 million (average) of kids home schooled, the majority of kids are >> being brainwashed and molded into the social engineered society of a dumbed >> down populace just as planned by those who work behind the scenes. >> >> There are many other social agendas beside the two I listed above (they >> were easiest to showcase) such as mass promiscuity, drug and alcohol >> use, gangs, left wing political leanings, and a dumbed down populace, many >> of who leave school with very low skills and actual learning. We've all >> experienced evidence of this by clerks who cannot make change from a dollar >> and get confused if you hand them a penny once they've punched in the dollar >> amount, to those who cannot reason and cannot accomplish simple tasks >> without being babysat and walked through like invalids. The infantalization >> of our young is disheartening, to say the least. My next door neighbor has 2 >> kids (out of wedlock) is almost 27, but not sure she wants to get married >> because she " is only 27 " and she is too young!!!! If you're not too young to >> raise kids, then you aren't too young to get married! When she told me >> this last year I reminded her that 1/3 of her life was gone, so when was she >> going to get married, at 50? She is exceptionally immature and does not want >> to grow up. I see it all the time. >> >> Who was behind the social engineering of our schools? Who was behind the >> changes in society? Who wants to take us from a free republic (that has been >> becoming less free for the past 50 years!) to a Marxist state? Who is behind >> the One World Order we often hear politicians spouting? (Remember when the >> first Bush used to use this phrase in 1990?) Who? It is not Obama or Bush >> Sr. or Castro or Putin. There is someone behind each one of these people, >> behind most all governments, if not all, including the Muslim countries who >> also have their own agenda of world domination. There is definitely evil >> afoot and it has been around for a lot longer than just the past 30-60 years >> or so. This sleeping giant who has worked diligently behind the scenes for >> more than 150 years is waking up and has been accelerating the process >> recently so that we have seen and felt big changes. I fear there are even >> more big changes on the horizon. >> >> My ideologies are rooted in Christianity and the infallibility of scripture >> based on God's word. I see all this happening as a result of the eventual >> coming of the AntiChrist, as prophesied in scripture. Others may see it >> otherwise. No matter how each one of us sees these things, we cannot deny >> that they are happening, and at an alarming rate. We've been bombarded in >> the last few years with NAIS, Codex, Obama, Reid, and Pelosi's radical >> agendas to " change " the nation, Cap and Trade, the FDA becoming more >> tyrannical and fanatical, the infiltration of the AMA from true doctoring to >> becoming the world's biggest drug pushers, Big Pharma capturing the medical >> community through their drugs (the AMA, FDA, and Big Pharma are all tied >> together), Monsanto and their Frankenseeds so they can control the world's >> food supply, and so many other things that it boggles the mind to try to >> remember them all. All these things are working against the average American >> (and the average person around the world) to change us into who we do not >> want to become. And these things could not and cannot be orchestrated so >> perfectly together without there being some kind of a small underground >> organization behind all of these changes and takeovers. There is a definite >> plan, a definite agenda, a definite takeover of the world on the horizon >> before us and we are watching it unfold in all these seemingly unrelated >> events and happenings from the public school social machine to the Cap and >> Trade bill. We are on a global march towards complete totalitarianism of the >> world by unseen movers and shakers who make all the calls behind the puppet >> leaders of the world. Who are they? I believe the Illuminati, but who are >> the Illuminati? I've read books about the Illuminati; I believe those who >> belong to the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR) are also players in this >> " pawn " game as you call it, and I know there is evil machinations afoot to >> enslave and defeat us as a nation and as a world. It is huge. The bible >> speaks of this takeover and the antichrist who will rule evilly. But even >> the disciples of Christ thought the end was coming in their time, so who >> knows if it is in ours, though the many prophecies are capable of happening >> now ( " mark " on hand or forehead with a chip, cashless society, the ability >> of nations to all be ruled by one person, the technology for nuclear war, >> etc). >> >> All we can do is pray, try to fight against all these evil things, stand up >> for what is right, yank our kids from the public schools or never send them >> in the first place, vote for those we know will uphold our constitution, >> learn about herbs and foraging, how to care for ourselves, have >> self-sufficient skills and pass these down to the next generation, and >> continue to be the " watchmen on the wall " who speaks out against what we see >> happening in our country. >> >> Gosh, I have written a lot, and yet I have merely scratched the surface and >> probably sound like a raving lunatic. The issue you raised is too huge, too >> expanding for any one person to answer your questions with any real clarity >> or knowledge of the who or what or whys. I believe I know the whos, the >> whats, the whys, but from a Christian perspective that would sound looney to >> most on here, and so I will retain them to myself, but the evil One of this >> world is definitely afoot and behind the scenes of what is going on. >> At least I will have given you some food for thought. You may not agree with >> all I've written (nor others!), and that is okay, but I think that we all >> agree there is definitely an evil plan to change America from a republic to >> a tyranny. >> >> Blessings~ >> >> Lori >> >> >> >> >> " By preventing a free market in education, a handful of social engineers >> - backed by the industries that profit from compulsory schooling: teacher >> colleges, textbook publishers, materials suppliers, et al. - has ensured >> that most of our children will not have an education, even though they may >> be thoroughly schooled. " *? John Taylor Gatto* >> >> He who cultivates his land will have plenty of food, but from idle pursuits >> a man has his fill of poverty. Proverbs 28:19 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> herbal remedies >> bryan@academyofnatu ralhealing. com >> Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:43:02 -0400 >> {Herbal Remedies} Pawn >> >> >> We the people sometimes feel like the little pawn but were not. In this >> incredibly large game we must be less than pawns, only spectators, but >> together we have great power..... right? >> >> Our country's leader is only a pawn as with Britain's Prime Minster. >> Believe just for a minute that this is the case and that our president is >> only a piece being played. >> It hardly matters who's a rook or a knight or who's the queen because they >> are all only pieces and all pieces are controlled by the player. >> >> So who are the players? >> >> He who controls the advertising gets to chose who becomes leader of voting >> countries. We know that. Its plain as day. >> TV, Radio and Internet have the eyes and ears of the masses. He with enough >> money chooses who gets to be the next pawn thus manipulates the game. >> >> I'm only 22 and am rather inexperienced in this game. Maybe you older, >> wiser, more experienced spectators can answer my question. >> I'm not concerned with pawns. They're easy enough to spot but who are these >> players? >> >> Who are the players? >> >> ~B >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with >> Hotmail. Get >> busy.<http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount & ocid=PID2\ 8326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4> >> >> >> > " Live in faith, not fear. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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