Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Any thing to keep us from going crazy waiting for the next results? My daughter is only 18 and it came back with abnormal cells. She has to go again on Thursday for a biopsy. I am worried about this. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I always have abnormal paps and have had so since in my early 20's it is probably nothing to worry about. I just had another and am 56 so try not too worry. One doctor told me when I was young that young girls with multiple sex partners will usually get them, (not saying your daughter does) but I grew up in the 60-70's Ya know free love and all that. Donna ACS > Any thing to keep us from going crazy waiting for the next results? My > daughter is only 18 and it came back with abnormal cells. She has to > go again on Thursday for a biopsy. I am worried about this. Lori > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I am 39 years old and have abnormal paps almost my entire life. I have had 4 or 5 biopsies and they always come back normally (my first one, the doctor scared me to death as he was doing the biopsy he told me i have basically 3 ways things could go - first the biopsy would be normal and we'd do nothing, but he didn't think after what he saw when doing the biopsy that this one was realistic -- 2nd is that it would show precancerous cells and they'd have to stick something up in there and freeze my insides (which is what he assumed we would do) and finally if they were cancerous then we would deal with that)every single biopsy has come back negative - i have no cancer and no precancerous cells - i'm not the healthiest person on the block, but apparently i just have abnormal looking cells (maybe doc knows something about this?)in all of my adult life, i have only had one normal pap and the nurse practitioner called it a wet pap - i have no idea what that means, but i always ask for it now as it doesnt show up abnormal and they don't bug me for biopsies any morehope this helps bobbie smith LoriO <loriherbal remedies Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 11:50:19 AM{Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? Any thing to keep us from going crazy waiting for the next results? My daughter is only 18 and it came back with abnormal cells. She has to go again on Thursday for a biopsy. I am worried about this. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Bobbie, I'm not sure who you directed this to, but I'd like to chime in if I may. There are a number of reasons why this could be, and more data would be needed. Did you ever listen to that CD Lecture Series of mine. This is where you need to begin, in order to get an understanding of this as I suspect from the little you've written that it is hormonal in nature. More info needs to be communicated before I'd label it as the "Cause". Listen to those lectures. All the best, Doc On 2/2/2010 4:53 PM, Bobbie Smith wrote: I am 39 years old and have abnormal paps almost my entire life. I have had 4 or 5 biopsies and they always come back normally (my first one, the doctor scared me to death as he was doing the biopsy he told me i have basically 3 ways things could go - first the biopsy would be normal and we'd do nothing, but he didn't think after what he saw when doing the biopsy that this one was realistic -- 2nd is that it would show precancerous cells and they'd have to stick something up in there and freeze my insides (which is what he assumed we would do) and finally if they were cancerous then we would deal with that) every single biopsy has come back negative - i have no cancer and no precancerous cells - i'm not the healthiest person on the block, but apparently i just have abnormal looking cells (maybe doc knows something about this?) in all of my adult life, i have only had one normal pap and the nurse practitioner called it a wet pap - i have no idea what that means, but i always ask for it now as it doesnt show up abnormal and they don't bug me for biopsies any more hope this helps bobbie smith LoriO <lori (AT) thornacres (DOT) com> herbal remedies Tue, February 2, 2010 11:50:19 AM {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? Any thing to keep us from going crazy waiting for the next results? My daughter is only 18 and it came back with abnormal cells. She has to go again on Thursday for a biopsy. I am worried about this. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Doc, My daughter is only 18 NO sex partners as of yet. Proud to say that as her mother! This was her first pap and the doctor first said it was text book. Then they call and want her to have another pap which happened today. All went well with that and then they called us when we got home and want her to go to a doctor a hour away for a biopsy. Now they say she is swollen now she should be starting her menstrual period any day now. Doesn't that make a difference? Oh big thing is she is in the process getting the gardisel( not sure of spelling) she has had two so far and the last one in March. She has to have all vaccines for college next year! My thought is it is the vaccine and they should wait until the vaccine is finished! Thanks for all the info. Lori --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Doc <Doc wrote:Doc <DocRe: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap???herbal remedies Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 4:25 PM Dear Bobbie, I'm not sure who you directed this to, but I'd like to chime in if I may. There are a number of reasons why this could be, and more data would be needed. Did you ever listen to that CD Lecture Series of mine. This is where you need to begin, in order to get an understanding of this as I suspect from the little you've written that it is hormonal in nature. More info needs to be communicated before I'd label it as the "Cause". Listen to those lectures. All the best, Doc On 2/2/2010 4:53 PM, Bobbie Smith wrote: I am 39 years old and have abnormal paps almost my entire life. I have had 4 or 5 biopsies and they always come back normally (my first one, the doctor scared me to death as he was doing the biopsy he told me i have basically 3 ways things could go - first the biopsy would be normal and we'd do nothing, but he didn't think after what he saw when doing the biopsy that this one was realistic -- 2nd is that it would show precancerous cells and they'd have to stick something up in there and freeze my insides (which is what he assumed we would do) and finally if they were cancerous then we would deal with that) every single biopsy has come back negative - i have no cancer and no precancerous cells - i'm not the healthiest person on the block, but apparently i just have abnormal looking cells (maybe doc knows something about this?) in all of my adult life, i have only had one normal pap and the nurse practitioner called it a wet pap - i have no idea what that means, but i always ask for it now as it doesnt show up abnormal and they don't bug me for biopsies any more hope this helps bobbie smith LoriO <lori (AT) thornacres (DOT) com> herbal remedies Tue, February 2, 2010 11:50:19 AM {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? Any thing to keep us from going crazy waiting for the next results? My daughter is only 18 and it came back with abnormal cells. She has to go again on Thursday for a biopsy. I am worried about this. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Lori OSWALT wrote: Oh big thing is she is in the process getting the gardisel( not sure of spelling) she has had two so far and the last one in March.  She has to have all vaccines for college next year! She what??? Says who? Is there some sort of law that says she has to have a vaccine for sexually transmitted diseases before she can start college??? I thought you went to college to for a college education, not for them to go snooping in your bedroom.   Insane. There is no way on God's green earth that I'd let my daughter take that based on all the things I've heard. If she's not having sex then there is no need for the vaccine. Yeah, she'll have sex one day, but that should be her decision on the vaccine and not some college. Sheila CHANGE has ARRIVED and it ain't pretty!! http://www.fairtax.org/campaigns/support_fair_tax.html?gclid=CJv78o_7140CFQwsOAodEyF0lg He truly lives dangerously who trusts his health to a doctor, his rights to a lawyer, his money to a banker, or his soul to a preacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 You need to look hard at the Gardasil. It is total poison and the death reports (and other complications) that are reported from it, are not not hysteria, they can and do happen. The whole FDA process for approving this one is a wild unbelievable story. Even those who vaccinate (not many on this list I'm sure) find the safety of Gardasil to be highly suspect. Abnormal paps are the LEAST of the complications from this one. And even then allopathic medicine is at direct odds with natural medicine on the issue of abnormal paps and how to handle them. Vaccines are NOT REQUIRED for college, with very very very few exceptions and most of those depend on the area of study involved. Playing with MD's and their vaccines is an extremely dangerous game. The odds are not in your favor. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Lori OSWALT <lori wrote: Doc, My daughter is only 18 NO sex partners as of yet. Proud to say that as her mother! This was her first pap and the doctor first said it was text book. Then they call and want her to have another pap which happened today. All went well with that and then they called us when we got home and want her to go to a doctor a hour away for a biopsy. Now they say she is swollen now she should be starting her menstrual period any day now. Doesn't that make a difference? Oh big thing is she is in the process getting the gardisel( not sure of spelling) she has had two so far and the last one in March. She has to have all vaccines for college next year! My thought is it is the vaccine and they should wait until the vaccine is finished! Thanks for all the info. Lori --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Doc <Doc wrote: Doc <DocRe: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap???herbal remedies Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 4:25 PM Dear Bobbie,I'm not sure who you directed this to, but I'd like to chime in if I may.There are a number of reasons why this could be, and more data would be needed. Did you ever listen to that CD Lecture Series of mine. This is where you need to begin, in order to get an understanding of this as I suspect from the little you've written that it is hormonal in nature.More info needs to be communicated before I'd label it as the " Cause " . Listen to those lectures. All the best,DocOn 2/2/2010 4:53 PM, Bobbie Smith wrote: I am 39 years old and have abnormal paps almost my entire life. I have had 4 or 5 biopsies and they always come back normally (my first one, the doctor scared me to death as he was doing the biopsy he told me i have basically 3 ways things could go - first the biopsy would be normal and we'd do nothing, but he didn't think after what he saw when doing the biopsy that this one was realistic -- 2nd is that it would show precancerous cells and they'd have to stick something up in there and freeze my insides (which is what he assumed we would do) and finally if they were cancerous then we would deal with that) every single biopsy has come back negative - i have no cancer and no precancerous cells - i'm not the healthiest person on the block, but apparently i just have abnormal looking cells (maybe doc knows something about this?) in all of my adult life, i have only had one normal pap and the nurse practitioner called it a wet pap - i have no idea what that means, but i always ask for it now as it doesnt show up abnormal and they don't bug me for biopsies any more hope this helps bobbie smith LoriO <lori (AT) thornacres (DOT) com>herbal remediesTue, February 2, 2010 11:50:19 AM {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? Any thing to keep us from going crazy waiting for the next results? My daughter is only 18 and it came back with abnormal cells. She has to go again on Thursday for a biopsy. I am worried about this. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 OK seriously PEOPLE? I am so grossed out and disgusted about the recent flood of Bogus BS questions that I am know leaving the group. You all need to stop and listen to Doc's you lazy WANKERS! If you are injecting prov-en poison into 18 y/o child. Then yeah they might have an abnormal pap! Of course MANY women regularly have abnormal paps, with NO ISSUES! Or if you insist upon lathering your kids up with pesticides to cure a simple case of scabies, YOU MIGHT JUST CREATE an PROBLEM! Or other green drainage nasty stuff... Or your pussy boils... LIFE IS GROSS! GET OVER IT! EVERYONE POOPS! LIFE is not as gross when you are properly nourished and caring for yourself well! If you put a bunch of toxins in well guess what Toxins come out in all different ways and IT"S NASTY! STOP & READ DOC"S Info BEFORE YOU POST AN EMERGENCY POO QUESTION -or other ridiculousness! Inform yourself before you wreck yourself or your families health! -Heather Anella Russo <anellarussoherbal remedies Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 1:40:09 PMRe: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? You need to look hard at the Gardasil. It is total poison and the death reports (and other complications) that are reported from it, are not not hysteria, they can and do happen. The whole FDA process for approving this one is a wild unbelievable story. Even those who vaccinate (not many on this list I'm sure) find the safety of Gardasil to be highly suspect. Abnormal paps are the LEAST of the complications from this one. And even then allopathic medicine is at direct odds with natural medicine on the issue of abnormal paps and how to handle them. Vaccines are NOT REQUIRED for college, with very very very few exceptions and most of those depend on the area of study involved. Playing with MD's and their vaccines is an extremely dangerous game. The odds are not in your favor. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Lori OSWALT <lori (AT) thornacres (DOT) com> wrote: Doc, My daughter is only 18 NO sex partners as of yet. Proud to say that as her mother! This was her first pap and the doctor first said it was text book. Then they call and want her to have another pap which happened today. All went well with that and then they called us when we got home and want her to go to a doctor a hour away for a biopsy. Now they say she is swollen now she should be starting her menstrual period any day now. Doesn't that make a difference? Oh big thing is she is in the process getting the gardisel( not sure of spelling) she has had two so far and the last one in March. She has to have all vaccines for college next year! My thought is it is the vaccine and they should wait until the vaccine is finished! Thanks for all the info. Lori --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Doc <Doc@AcademyOfNatura lHealing. com> wrote: Doc <Doc@AcademyOfNatura lHealing. com>Re: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap???herbal remediesTuesday, February 2, 2010, 4:25 PM Dear Bobbie,I'm not sure who you directed this to, but I'd like to chime in if I may.There are a number of reasons why this could be, and more data would be needed.Did you ever listen to that CD Lecture Series of mine. This is where you need to begin, in order to get an understanding of this as I suspect from the little you've written that it is hormonal in nature.More info needs to be communicated before I'd label it as the "Cause". Listen to those lectures. All the best,DocOn 2/2/2010 4:53 PM, Bobbie Smith wrote: I am 39 years old and have abnormal paps almost my entire life. I have had 4 or 5 biopsies and they always come back normally (my first one, the doctor scared me to death as he was doing the biopsy he told me i have basically 3 ways things could go - first the biopsy would be normal and we'd do nothing, but he didn't think after what he saw when doing the biopsy that this one was realistic -- 2nd is that it would show precancerous cells and they'd have to stick something up in there and freeze my insides (which is what he assumed we would do) and finally if they were cancerous then we would deal with that)every single biopsy has come back negative - i have no cancer and no precancerous cells - i'm not the healthiest person on the block, but apparently i just have abnormal looking cells (maybe doc knows something about this?)in all of my adult life, i have only had one normal pap and the nurse practitioner called it a wet pap - i have no idea what that means, but i always ask for it now as it doesnt show up abnormal and they don't bug me for biopsies any morehope this helps bobbie smith LoriO <lori (AT) thornacres (DOT) com>herbal remediesTue, February 2, 2010 11:50:19 AM{Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? Any thing to keep us from going crazy waiting for the next results? My daughter is only 18 and it came back with abnormal cells. She has to go again on Thursday for a biopsy. I am worried about this. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 TN where I live is trying to get this vaccine mandatory but my daughter won’t be getting it. No way no how. herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Anella Russo Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:40 PM herbal remedies Re: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? You need to look hard at the Gardasil. It is total poison and the death reports (and other complications) that are reported from it, are not not hysteria, they can and do happen. The whole FDA process for approving this one is a wild unbelievable story. Even those who vaccinate (not many on this list I'm sure) find the safety of Gardasil to be highly suspect. Abnormal paps are the LEAST of the complications from this one. And even then allopathic medicine is at direct odds with natural medicine on the issue of abnormal paps and how to handle them. Vaccines are NOT REQUIRED for college, with very very very few exceptions and most of those depend on the area of study involved. Playing with MD's and their vaccines is an extremely dangerous game. The odds are not in your favor. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Lori OSWALT <lori wrote: Doc, My daughter is only 18 NO sex partners as of yet. Proud to say that as her mother! This was her first pap and the doctor first said it was text book. Then they call and want her to have another pap which happened today. All went well with that and then they called us when we got home and want her to go to a doctor a hour away for a biopsy. Now they say she is swollen now she should be starting her menstrual period any day now. Doesn't that make a difference? Oh big thing is she is in the process getting the gardisel( not sure of spelling) she has had two so far and the last one in March. She has to have all vaccines for college next year! My thought is it is the vaccine and they should wait until the vaccine is finished! Thanks for all the info. Lori --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Doc <Doc wrote: Doc <Doc Re: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? herbal remedies Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 4:25 PM Dear Bobbie, I'm not sure who you directed this to, but I'd like to chime in if I may. There are a number of reasons why this could be, and more data would be needed. Did you ever listen to that CD Lecture Series of mine. This is where you need to begin, in order to get an understanding of this as I suspect from the little you've written that it is hormonal in nature. More info needs to be communicated before I'd label it as the " Cause " . Listen to those lectures. All the best, Doc On 2/2/2010 4:53 PM, Bobbie Smith wrote: I am 39 years old and have abnormal paps almost my entire life. I have had 4 or 5 biopsies and they always come back normally (my first one, the doctor scared me to death as he was doing the biopsy he told me i have basically 3 ways things could go - first the biopsy would be normal and we'd do nothing, but he didn't think after what he saw when doing the biopsy that this one was realistic -- 2nd is that it would show precancerous cells and they'd have to stick something up in there and freeze my insides (which is what he assumed we would do) and finally if they were cancerous then we would deal with that) every single biopsy has come back negative - i have no cancer and no precancerous cells - i'm not the healthiest person on the block, but apparently i just have abnormal looking cells (maybe doc knows something about this?) in all of my adult life, i have only had one normal pap and the nurse practitioner called it a wet pap - i have no idea what that means, but i always ask for it now as it doesnt show up abnormal and they don't bug me for biopsies any more hope this helps bobbie smith LoriO <lori (AT) thornacres (DOT) com> herbal remedies Tue, February 2, 2010 11:50:19 AM {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? Any thing to keep us from going crazy waiting for the next results? My daughter is only 18 and it came back with abnormal cells. She has to go again on Thursday for a biopsy. I am worried about this. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Heather , This email was approved without careful examination and should not have been approved. Folks come here to learn. We hope that it is a safe haven for all. Please no more posts critical of others. Mary Senior Moderator Heather Seifert wrote:  OK seriously PEOPLE? I am so grossed out and disgusted about the recent flood of Bogus BS questions that I am know leaving the group. You all need to stop and listen to Doc's you lazy WANKERS! If you are injecting prov-en poison into 18 y/o child. Then yeah they might have an abnormal pap! Of course MANY women regularly have abnormal paps, with NO ISSUES! Or if you insist upon lathering your kids up with pesticides to cure a simple case of scabies, YOU MIGHT JUST CREATE an PROBLEM! Or other green drainage nasty stuff... Or your pussy boils...  LIFE IS GROSS!  GET OVER IT! EVERYONE POOPS! LIFE is not as gross when you are properly nourished and caring for yourself well! If you put a bunch of toxins in well guess what Toxins come out in all different ways and IT"S NASTY!  STOP &  READ DOC"S Info BEFORE YOU POST AN EMERGENCY POO QUESTION -or other ridiculousness! Inform yourself before you wreck yourself or your families health!  -Heather  Anella Russo <anellarusso > herbal remedies Wed, February 3, 2010 1:40:09 PM Re: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap???  You need to look hard at the Gardasil. It is total poison and the death reports (and other complications) that are reported from it, are not not hysteria, they can and do happen. The whole FDA process for approving this one is a wild unbelievable story. Even those who vaccinate (not many on this list I'm sure) find the safety of Gardasil to be highly suspect. Abnormal paps are the LEAST of the complications from this one. And even then allopathic medicine is at direct odds with natural medicine on the issue of abnormal paps and how to handle them. Vaccines are NOT REQUIRED for college, with very very very few exceptions and most of those depend on the area of study involved. Playing with MD's and their vaccines is an extremely dangerous game. The odds are not in your favor.  On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Lori OSWALT <lori (AT) thornacres (DOT) com> wrote:  Doc,  My daughter is only 18 NO sex partners as of yet.  Proud to say that as her mother!  This was her first pap and the doctor first said it was text book.  Then they call and want her to have another pap which happened today.  All went well with that and then they called us when we got home and want her to go to a doctor a hour away for a biopsy.  Now they say she is swollen now she should be starting her menstrual period any day now.  Doesn't that make a difference?  Oh big thing is she is in the process getting the gardisel( not sure of spelling) she has had two so far and the last one in March.  She has to have all vaccines for college next year!  My thought is it is the vaccine and they should wait until the vaccine is finished!  Thanks for all the info.  Lori --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Doc <Doc@AcademyOfNatura lHealing. com> wrote: Doc <Doc@AcademyOfNatura lHealing. com> Re: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? herbal remedies@ . com Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 4:25 PM  Dear Bobbie, I'm not sure who you directed this to, but I'd like to chime in if I may. There are a number of reasons why this could be, and more data would be needed. Did you ever listen to that CD Lecture Series of mine. This is where you need to begin, in order to get an understanding of this as I suspect from the little you've written that it is hormonal in nature. More info needs to be communicated before I'd label it as the "Cause". Listen to those lectures. All the best, Doc On 2/2/2010 4:53 PM, Bobbie Smith wrote:  I am 39 years old and have abnormal paps almost my entire life. I have had 4 or 5 biopsies and they always come back normally (my first one, the doctor scared me to death as he was doing the biopsy he told me i have basically 3 ways things could go - first the biopsy would be normal and we'd do nothing, but he didn't think after what he saw when doing the biopsy that this one was realistic -- 2nd is that it would show precancerous cells and they'd have to stick something up in there and freeze my insides (which is what he assumed we would do) and finally if they were cancerous then we would deal with that) every single biopsy has come back negative - i have no cancer and no precancerous cells - i'm not the healthiest person on the block, but apparently i just have abnormal looking cells (maybe doc knows something about this?) in all of my adult life, i have only had one normal pap and the nurse practitioner called it a wet pap - i have no idea what that means, but i always ask for it now as it doesnt show up abnormal and they don't bug me for biopsies any more hope this helps bobbie smith  LoriO <lori (AT) thornacres (DOT) com> To: herbal remedies Tue, February 2, 2010 11:50:19 AM Subject: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap???  Any thing to keep us from going crazy waiting for the next results? My daughter is only 18 and it came back with abnormal cells. She has to go again on Thursday for a biopsy. I am worried about this. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Lori, I never recommend paps. Never. They are just too misleading, and doctors use them to scare the dickens out of women. Doing a biopsy after a pap comes back with no negatives is beyond crazy and is completely suppressive, especially on an 18 year old. The both of you need to get yourselves fully knowledgeable on natural healing and stop going to the Medicos altogether. Taking charge of your own health and education is the way to go here. Starting menses can throw a pap off. It can also throw off hormone levels, but the Medicos don't tell you this. I'd never send any child of mine to a school or college where vaccines were mandatory. I'd put in for a "religious exemption" or not sent them at all. I'm a firm believer in "Home Schooling" and that includes college and doctorates. Did you know that the majority of the top writers of the golden age of science fiction during the 20's, 30's and 40's never completed High School let alone go to college??? This is true. Get yourself educated and be your own physician. Coming here to Herbal Remedies is the first step. Getting my CD Lecture Series would be the next step. Getting a good library on Natural Healing would follow after that. Such books as, Dr. John Christopher's "School of Natural Healing" would be vital for any Library. Buttttttttttt stop sending your kids to the current educational system disaster known as public education. Public Schools, Universities, and Modern Day Colleges, produce nothing but druggies, and godless puppets out of our children. In Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc PS. One of these days, I'm going to give up my doctorate, I'm so fed up with the title, and what it's come to represent. Almost all honor and integrity has gone from the name. On 2/2/2010 7:08 PM, Lori OSWALT wrote:  Doc,  My daughter is only 18 NO sex partners as of yet.  Proud to say that as her mother!  This was her first pap and the doctor first said it was text book.  Then they call and want her to have another pap which happened today.  All went well with that and then they called us when we got home and want her to go to a doctor a hour away for a biopsy.  Now they say she is swollen now she should be starting her menstrual period any day now.  Doesn't that make a difference?  Oh big thing is she is in the process getting the gardisel( not sure of spelling) she has had two so far and the last one in March.  She has to have all vaccines for college next year!  My thought is it is the vaccine and they should wait until the vaccine is finished!  Thanks for all the info.  Lori --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Doc <Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com> wrote: Doc <Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com> Re: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? herbal remedies Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 4:25 PM  Dear Bobbie, I'm not sure who you directed this to, but I'd like to chime in if I may. There are a number of reasons why this could be, and more data would be needed. Did you ever listen to that CD Lecture Series of mine. This is where you need to begin, in order to get an understanding of this as I suspect from the little you've written that it is hormonal in nature. More info needs to be communicated before I'd label it as the "Cause". Listen to those lectures. All the best, Doc On 2/2/2010 4:53 PM, Bobbie Smith wrote:  I am 39 years old and have abnormal paps almost my entire life. I have had 4 or 5 biopsies and they always come back normally (my first one, the doctor scared me to death as he was doing the biopsy he told me i have basically 3 ways things could go - first the biopsy would be normal and we'd do nothing, but he didn't think after what he saw when doing the biopsy that this one was realistic -- 2nd is that it would show precancerous cells and they'd have to stick something up in there and freeze my insides (which is what he assumed we would do) and finally if they were cancerous then we would deal with that) every single biopsy has come back negative - i have no cancer and no precancerous cells - i'm not the healthiest person on the block, but apparently i just have abnormal looking cells (maybe doc knows something about this?) in all of my adult life, i have only had one normal pap and the nurse practitioner called it a wet pap - i have no idea what that means, but i always ask for it now as it doesnt show up abnormal and they don't bug me for biopsies any more hope this helps bobbie smith  LoriO <lori (AT) thornacres (DOT) com> To: herbal remedies Tue, February 2, 2010 11:50:19 AM Subject: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap???  Any thing to keep us from going crazy waiting for the next results? My daughter is only 18 and it came back with abnormal cells. She has to go again on Thursday for a biopsy. I am worried about this. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Woo! They want a thousand bucks for a used one on Amazon. I did find one for $60.00, but not positive it's the same edition. Sheila Doc wrote: Such books as, Dr. John Christopher's "School of Natural Healing" would be vital for any Library. CHANGE has ARRIVED and it ain't pretty!! http://www.fairtax.org/campaigns/support_fair_tax.html?gclid=CJv78o_7140CFQwsOAodEyF0lg He truly lives dangerously who trusts his health to a doctor, his rights to a lawyer, his money to a banker, or his soul to a preacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKiN ABOUT! THANK YOU DOC! ________________________________ Doc <Doc herbal remedies Thu, February 4, 2010 1:53:53 PM Re: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? Lori, I never recommend paps. Never. They are just too misleading, and doctors use them to scare the dickens out of women. Doing a biopsy after a pap comes back with no negatives is beyond crazy and is completely suppressive, especially on an 18 year old. The both of you need to get yourselves fully knowledgeable on natural healing and stop going to the Medicos altogether. Taking charge of your own health and education is the way to go here. Starting menses can throw a pap off. It can also throw off hormone levels, but the Medicos don't tell you this. I'd never send any child of mine to a school or college where vaccines were mandatory. I'd put in for a " religious exemption " or not send them at all. I'm a firm believer in " Home Schooling " and that includes college and doctorates. Did you know that the majority of the top writers of the golden age of science fiction during the 20's, 30's and 40's never completed High School let alone go to college??? This is true. Get yourself educated and be your own physician. Coming here to Herbal Remedies is the first step. Getting my CD Lecture Series would be the next step. Getting a good library on Natural Healing would follow after that. Such books as, Dr. John Christopher' s " School of Natural Healing " would be vital for any Library. Buttttttttttt stop sending your kids to the current educational system disaster known as public education. Public Schools, Universities, and Modern Day Colleges, produce nothing but druggies, and godless puppets out of our children. In Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc PS. One of these days, I'm going to give up my doctorate, I'm so fed up with the title, and what it's come to represent. Almost all honor and integrity has gone from the name. On 2/2/2010 7:08 PM, Lori OSWALT wrote: >Doc, My daughter is only 18 NO sex partners as of yet. Proud to say that as her mother! This was her first pap and the doctor first said it was text book. Then they call and want her to have another pap which happened today. All went well with that and then they called us when we got home and want her to go to a doctor a hour away for a biopsy. Now they say she is swollen now she should be starting her menstrual period any day now. Doesn't that make a difference? Oh big thing is she is in the process getting the gardisel( not sure of spelling) she has had two so far and the last one in March. She has to have all vaccines for college next year! My thought is it is the vaccine and they should wait until the vaccine is finished! Thanks for all the info. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 You're welcome Heather, but what Mary said needs to be taken into account here as well. There are several new people here on Herbal Remedies, and patience and understanding need to be used here. Getting over to Alternative Health Practices from the Medico Junk that's been pushed for decades takes a little getting used to. Tolerance is needed to get the real and true information out there, as most people have been inundated with over half a century of TV Crap and Advertising by the main line Medicos. Love, Doc On 2/4/2010 2:42 PM, Heather Seifert wrote:  THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKiN ABOUT! THANK YOU DOC! ________________________________ Doc <Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com> herbal remedies Thu, February 4, 2010 1:53:53 PM Re: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? Lori, I never recommend paps.� Never. They are just too misleading, and doctors use them to scare the dickens out of women.� Doing a biopsy after a pap comes back with no negatives is beyond crazy and is completely suppressive, especially on an 18 year old.� The both of you need to get yourselves fully knowledgeable on natural healing and stop going to the Medicos altogether.� Taking charge of your own health and education is the way to go here.� Starting menses can throw a pap off.� It can also throw off hormone levels, but the Medicos don't tell you this.� I'd never send any child of mine to a school or college where vaccines were mandatory.� I'd put in for a "religious exemption" or not send them at all.� I'm a firm believer in "Home Schooling" and that includes college and doctorates.� Did you know that the majority of the top writers of the golden age of science fiction during the 20's, 30's and 40's never completed High School let alone go to college???� This is true. Get yourself educated and be your own physician.� Coming here to Herbal Remedies is the first step.� Getting my CD Lecture Series would be the next step.� Getting a good library on Natural Healing would follow after that.� Such books as, Dr. John Christopher' s "School of Natural Healing" would be vital for any Library. Buttttttttttt stop sending your kids to the current educational system disaster known as public education.� Public Schools, Universities, and Modern Day Colleges, produce nothing but druggies, and godless puppets out of our children. In Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc PS.� One of these days, I'm going to give up my doctorate, I'm so fed up with the title, and what it's come to represent.� Almost all honor and integrity has gone from the name.� On 2/2/2010 7:08 PM, Lori OSWALT wrote: >Doc, �My daughter is only 18 NO sex partners as of yet. �Proud to say that as her mother! �This was her first pap and the doctor first said it was text book. �Then they call and want her to have another pap which happened today. �All went well with that and then they called us when we got home and want her to go to a doctor a hour away for a biopsy. �Now they say she is swollen now she should be starting her menstrual period any day now. �Doesn't that make a difference? �Oh big thing is she is in the process getting the gardisel( not sure of spelling) she has had two so far and the last one in March. �She has to have all vaccines for college next year! �My thought is it is the vaccine and they should wait until the vaccine is finished! �Thanks for all the info. �Lori� Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 I am usually a bargain shopper and always check eBay first. However, most of the books from Dr. Christopher's school are not available easily. I guess those that have them aren't giving them up. I spent ages trying to find a good used price for Dr. Mom by Sandra Ellis (great book, as it is her adventures into becoming more natural and her progression) and I couldn't find it used for much under $100. Well, I went to http://www.christopherpublications.com/ and found it new for 30. Duh. If I ever wanted to make a fortune I could sell their books on Amazon. They also have his School of Natural Healing, Herbal Home Health Care (a good quick reference, less detailed than School of Natural Healing, with all of those pros and cons, quicker, with stories that are fun.) Lots of great books. My herb books now fill five shelves and are working on a sixth. Ramona Quoting srp2 <srp2wantsnospam: > Woo! They want a thousand bucks for a used one on Amazon. I did find > one for $60.00, but not positive it's the same edition. > > Sheila > > Doc wrote: >> Such books as, Dr. John Christopher's " School of Natural Healing " >> would be vital for any Library. > > CHANGE has ARRIVED and it ain't pretty!! > > http://www.fairtax.org/campaigns/support_fair_tax.html?gclid=CJv78o_7140CFQwsOAo\ dEyF0lg > > He truly lives dangerously who trusts his health to a doctor, his > rights to a lawyer, his money to a banker, or his soul to a preacher " Live in faith, not fear. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Perhaps it is time for it to be 're-published'...if it is that popular and valuable...i do not know of him...has he come and 'gone'...or is it possible his school may want to issue it again...anyone familiar w/ the school or the situation?...d--- On Thu, 2/4/10, Ramona <ramona wrote:Ramona <ramonaRe: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap???herbal remedies Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 11:38 PM I am usually a bargain shopper and always check eBay first. However, most of the books from Dr. Christopher' s school are not available easily. I guess those that have them aren't giving them up. I spent ages trying to find a good used price for Dr. Mom by Sandra Ellis (great book, as it is her adventures into becoming more natural and her progression) and I couldn't find it used for much under $100. Well, I went to http://www.christop herpublications. com/ and found it new for 30. Duh. If I ever wanted to make a fortune I could sell their books on Amazon. They also have his School of Natural Healing, Herbal Home Health Care (a good quick reference, less detailed than School of Natural Healing, with all of those pros and cons, quicker, with stories that are fun.) Lots of great books. My herb books now fill five shelves and are working on a sixth. Ramona Quoting srp2 <srp2wantsnospam@ bellsouth. net>: > Woo! They want a thousand bucks for a used one on Amazon. I did find > one for $60.00, but not positive it's the same edition. > > Sheila > > Doc wrote: >> Such books as, Dr. John Christopher' s "School of Natural Healing" >> would be vital for any Library. > > CHANGE has ARRIVED and it ain't pretty!! > > http://www.fairtax. org/campaigns/ support_fair_ tax.html? gclid=CJv78o_ 7140CFQwsOAodEyF 0lg > > He truly lives dangerously who trusts his health to a doctor, his > rights to a lawyer, his money to a banker, or his soul to a preacher "Live in faith, not fear." Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Hi : Ijust went to the site you were so kind to share with us and I cannot find "The School of Natural Healing " by Dr John Christopher for $30. The site only shows a $69.95 centennial version. Can you share a lil more info on how you found the $30 version? Thank you so much CJ --- On Thu, 2/4/10, Ramona <ramona wrote: Ramona <ramonaRe: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap???herbal remedies Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 10:38 PM I am usually a bargain shopper and always check eBay first. However, most of the books from Dr. Christopher' s school are not available easily. I guess those that have them aren't giving them up. I spent ages trying to find a good used price for Dr. Mom by Sandra Ellis (great book, as it is her adventures into becoming more natural and her progression) and I couldn't find it used for much under $100. Well, I went to http://www.christop herpublications. com/ and found it new for 30. Duh. If I ever wanted to make a fortune I could sell their books on Amazon. They also have his School of Natural Healing, Herbal Home Health Care (a good quick reference, less detailed than School of Natural Healing, with all of those pros and cons, quicker, with stories that are fun.) Lots of great books. My herb books now fill five shelves and are working on a sixth.RamonaQuoting srp2 <srp2wantsnospam@ bellsouth. net>:> Woo! They want a thousand bucks for a used one on Amazon. I did find> one for $60.00, but not positive it's the same edition.>> Sheila>> Doc wrote:>> Such books as, Dr. John Christopher' s "School of Natural Healing" >> would be vital for any Library.>> CHANGE has ARRIVED and it ain't pretty!!>> http://www.fairtax. org/campaigns/ support_fair_ tax.html? gclid=CJv78o_ 7140CFQwsOAodEyF 0lg>> He truly lives dangerously who trusts his health to a doctor, his> rights to a lawyer, his money to a banker, or his soul to a preacher"Live in faith, not fear." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 I hear you Ramona, but am surprised the price went up that much. I think I paid $25 for mine way back when ;o))) Anywho, a great addition to any library and a "must" as far as I'm concerned. As soon as they're unpacked, I'll post a list of all the Natural Health Books in my Library with a note on those that are an absolute "gotta have". Would appreciate all of our members posting their favorites over the next week or so = a great way for those new to Naturopathy to get themselves self educated. Hugs, Doc On 2/4/2010 11:38 PM, Ramona wrote:  I am usually a bargain shopper and always check eBay first. However, most of the books from Dr. Christopher's school are not available easily. I guess those that have them aren't giving them up. I spent ages trying to find a good used price for Dr. Mom by Sandra Ellis (great book, as it is her adventures into becoming more natural and her progression) and I couldn't find it used for much under $100. Well, I went to http://www.christopherpublications.com/ and found it new for 30. Duh. If I ever wanted to make a fortune I could sell their books on Amazon. They also have his School of Natural Healing, Herbal Home Health Care (a good quick reference, less detailed than School of Natural Healing, with all of those pros and cons, quicker, with stories that are fun.) Lots of great books. My herb books now fill five shelves and are working on a sixth. Ramona Quoting srp2 <srp2wantsnospam (AT) bellsouth (DOT) net>: > Woo! They want a thousand bucks for a used one on Amazon. I did find > one for $60.00, but not positive it's the same edition. > > Sheila > > Doc wrote: >> Such books as, Dr. John Christopher's "School of Natural Healing" >> would be vital for any Library. > > CHANGE has ARRIVED and it ain't pretty!! > > http://www.fairtax.org/campaigns/support_fair_tax.html?gclid=CJv78o_7140CFQwsOAodEyF0lg > > He truly lives dangerously who trusts his health to a doctor, his > rights to a lawyer, his money to a banker, or his soul to a preacher "Live in faith, not fear." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I am salivating over that list! Ramona Quoting Doc <Doc: > I hear you Ramona, but am surprised the price went up that much. I > think I paid $25 for mine way back when ;o))) > Anywho, a great addition to any library and a " must " as far as I'm concerned. > As soon as they're unpacked, I'll post a list of all the Natural Health > Books in my Library with a note on those that are an absolute " gotta > have " . > Would appreciate all of our members posting their favorites over the > next week or so = a great way for those new to Naturopathy to get > themselves self educated. > Hugs, > Doc > " Live in faith, not fear. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010  The School of Natural Healing has never been 30- it is 70... but worth every penny. The other book by Sandra Ellis is Dr. Mom's Healthy Living and that is 30. It is also worth every penny. I use both as well as Dr. Christopher's Herbal Home Health Care extensively. I am a Master Herbalist from the School of Natural Healing. Marisa, MH herbal remedies [herbal remedies ]On Behalf Of CJ FoxFriday, February 05, 2010 8:27 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? Hi : Ijust went to the site you were so kind to share with us and I cannot find "The School of Natural Healing " by Dr John Christopher for $30. The site only shows a $69.95 centennial version. Can you share a lil more info on how you found the $30 version? Thank you so much CJ --- On Thu, 2/4/10, Ramona <ramona (AT) rebarchik (DOT) org> wrote: Ramona <ramona (AT) rebarchik (DOT) org>Re: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap???herbal remedies Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 10:38 PM I am usually a bargain shopper and always check eBay first. However, most of the books from Dr. Christopher' s school are not available easily. I guess those that have them aren't giving them up. I spent ages trying to find a good used price for Dr. Mom by Sandra Ellis (great book, as it is her adventures into becoming more natural and her progression) and I couldn't find it used for much under $100. Well, I went to http://www.christop herpublications. com/ and found it new for 30. Duh. If I ever wanted to make a fortune I could sell their books on Amazon. They also have his School of Natural Healing, Herbal Home Health Care (a good quick reference, less detailed than School of Natural Healing, with all of those pros and cons, quicker, with stories that are fun.) Lots of great books. My herb books now fill five shelves and are working on a sixth.RamonaQuoting srp2 <srp2wantsnospam@ bellsouth. net>:> Woo! They want a thousand bucks for a used one on Amazon. I did find> one for $60.00, but not positive it's the same edition.>> Sheila>> Doc wrote:>> Such books as, Dr. John Christopher' s "School of Natural Healing" >> would be vital for any Library.>> CHANGE has ARRIVED and it ain't pretty!!>> http://www.fairtax. org/campaigns/ support_fair_ tax.html? gclid=CJv78o_ 7140CFQwsOAodEyF 0lg>> He truly lives dangerously who trusts his health to a doctor, his> rights to a lawyer, his money to a banker, or his soul to a preacher"Live in faith, not fear." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Thank you so much for the clarification. I also went back and re-read the posting and then realized it was the Dr Moms book that was $30. thanks so much! CJ --- On Fri, 2/5/10, Our House <pigswithwings wrote: Our House <pigswithwingsRE: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap???herbal remedies Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 9:16 PM  The School of Natural Healing has never been 30- it is 70... but worth every penny. The other book by Sandra Ellis is Dr. Mom's Healthy Living and that is 30. It is also worth every penny. I use both as well as Dr. Christopher' s Herbal Home Health Care extensively. I am a Master Herbalist from the School of Natural Healing. Marisa, MH herbal remedies [Herbal_ Remedies]On Behalf Of CJ FoxFriday, February 05, 2010 8:27 AMherbal remediesRe: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap??? Hi : Ijust went to the site you were so kind to share with us and I cannot find "The School of Natural Healing " by Dr John Christopher for $30. The site only shows a $69.95 centennial version. Can you share a lil more info on how you found the $30 version? Thank you so much CJ --- On Thu, 2/4/10, Ramona <ramona (AT) rebarchik (DOT) org> wrote: Ramona <ramona (AT) rebarchik (DOT) org>Re: {Herbal Remedies} abnormal pap???herbal remediesThursday, February 4, 2010, 10:38 PM I am usually a bargain shopper and always check eBay first. However, most of the books from Dr. Christopher' s school are not available easily. I guess those that have them aren't giving them up. I spent ages trying to find a good used price for Dr. Mom by Sandra Ellis (great book, as it is her adventures into becoming more natural and her progression) and I couldn't find it used for much under $100. Well, I went to http://www.christop herpublications. com/ and found it new for 30. Duh. If I ever wanted to make a fortune I could sell their books on Amazon. They also have his School of Natural Healing, Herbal Home Health Care (a good quick reference, less detailed than School of Natural Healing, with all of those pros and cons, quicker, with stories that are fun.) Lots of great books. My herb books now fill five shelves and are working on a sixth.RamonaQuoting srp2 <srp2wantsnospam@ bellsouth. net>:> Woo! They want a thousand bucks for a used one on Amazon. I did find> one for $60.00, but not positive it's the same edition.>> Sheila>> Doc wrote:>> Such books as, Dr. John Christopher' s "School of Natural Healing" >> would be vital for any Library.>> CHANGE has ARRIVED and it ain't pretty!!>> http://www.fairtax. org/campaigns/ support_fair_ tax.html? gclid=CJv78o_ 7140CFQwsOAodEyF 0lg>> He truly lives dangerously who trusts his health to a doctor, his> rights to a lawyer, his money to a banker, or his soul to a preacher"Live in faith, not fear." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Most likely is the same edition. I had no idea they were becoming as rare as hen's teeth. Makes that Leather bound Edition look good. ;o))) Doc On 2/4/2010 2:21 PM, srp2 wrote:  Woo! They want a thousand bucks for a used one on Amazon. I did find one for $60.00, but not positive it's the same edition. Sheila Doc wrote: Such books as, Dr. John Christopher's "School of Natural Healing" would be vital for any Library. CHANGE has ARRIVED and it ain't pretty!! http://www.fairtax.org/campaigns/support_fair_tax.html?gclid=CJv78o_7140CFQwsOAodEyF0lg He truly lives dangerously who trusts his health to a doctor, his rights to a lawyer, his money to a banker, or his soul to a preacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Wellllllllllllll keep reminding me once in a while, since the books are not unpacked yet, and may not be for a month or three. ;o))) Love, Doc On 2/5/2010 10:08 PM, Ramona wrote:  I am salivating over that list! Ramona Quoting Doc <Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com>: > I hear you Ramona, but am surprised the price went up that much. I > think I paid $25 for mine way back when ;o))) > Anywho, a great addition to any library and a "must" as far as I'm concerned. > As soon as they're unpacked, I'll post a list of all the Natural Health > Books in my Library with a note on those that are an absolute "gotta > have". > Would appreciate all of our members posting their favorites over the > next week or so = a great way for those new to Naturopathy to get > themselves self educated. > Hugs, > Doc > "Live in faith, not fear." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Dear Marisa, Very well done on completing the MH Course from Doc Christopher's School. It is an awesome and meaty course, and not just a fly-by-night, wussy diploma mill production. It is tops. I'll have to check out Sandra Ellis' "Dr. Mom's Healthy Living". I've never read it, but it sounds like a winner. In Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc On 2/5/2010 10:16 PM, Our House wrote: The School of Natural Healing has never been 30- it is 70... but worth every penny. The other book by Sandra Ellis is Dr. Mom's Healthy Living and that is 30. It is also worth every penny.I use both as well as Dr. Christopher's Herbal Home Health Care extensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Doc, I am currently reading that as part of the curriculum for my MH. It is fabulous. I just wanted to let you know that Sandra Ellis also has another book, Dr. Mom II which was actually the first book I read of hers. Both worth having. Ramona Quoting Doc <Doc: > Dear Marisa, > Very well done on completing the MH Course from Doc Christopher's School. > It is an awesome and meaty course, and not just a fly-by-night, wussy > diploma mill production. It is tops. > I'll have to check out Sandra Ellis' " Dr. Mom's Healthy Living " . I've > never read it, but it sounds like a winner. > In Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, > Doc > > On 2/5/2010 10:16 PM, Our House wrote: > The School of Natural Healing has never been 30- it is 70... but worth > every penny. The other book by Sandra Ellis is Dr. Mom's Healthy > Living and that is 30. It is also worth every penny.I use both as well > as Dr. Christopher's Herbal Home Health Care extensive. " Live in faith, not fear. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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