Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Hi Doc,Every so often i forward an email from our group to my husband -- which of course he responds with comments such as "wow!" or "that sounds awesome!" So today, he asked me to formally ask you about the Cleanse (after he read the email you sent me today . Although we werent going to officially do the TBC till spring time - my husband is thinking of doing it sooner. (I believe its more for the weight loss aspect, but the health benefits that come along with it sound very exciting as well.) In any case, my hubby has one basic question: he works in Manhattan at a regular 9-6 corporate job and needs to know if the cleanse will cause him to be running to the bathroom all day? would he need to take off a few days/ week from work to do it properly? If you could give me some more information on that it would be great! thanks so much - hope to hear from you soon,Deb Doc <Docherbal remedies Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 12:57:40 PMRe: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! Dear Deb, You're more than welcome. I'm now into day 18 of the TBC AND my Juice Fast. I've dropped over 12 pounds, and I went to visit my Massage Therapist yesterday who was just astounded. He told me that in two weeks, I now have the skin tone and look of a 30 year old. Not bad for an old Curmudgeon who's pushing 64 ;o))))) I've got 40 pounds to lose altogether, and at first it seemed almost NOT doable. After Day 3 the hunger pangs lessened dramatically, and then after Week 1, when I made up my mind I actually WAS having fun with it and that I was actually enjoying the challenge of it all, I became aware that I'd been living to eat rather than eating to live as Ben Franklin once said. The ringing in my right ear disappeared altogether, and I hadn't even been taking my Ear Formula (forgot to ) The TBC of course speeds up the entire healing process so I'm feeling pretty chipper. I've got today and tomorrow left on the Kidney Cleanse, and then I'm going to do the Blood Detox Part of the Incurables just for drill, to ensure all organs are as pure as possible. Along with this, I'll be doing the Brain Formula to test out one of my Theories on "Longevity". I'll be doing some before and after pics to show that a person can actually and truly reverse aging to some degree, by rejuvenating the Pituitary and Pineal Glands. This will also ensure the Weight stays off PERMANENTLY !!! Anyway, glad you liked the posts. More later. All the best, Doc On 1/14/2010 8:38 PM, Deborah Litvin wrote: not to disturb your conversation with the Doc lisa, but i just wanted to say thanks to both of you for posting your notes on the cleanse... after heading Docs lecture -- and reading about the cleanse, my husband and i (if thats the correct grammar?) really want to do it!!! becasue of some family functions coming up, we're going to do it later in the year - but i like hearing about how you guys are doing- im taking notes for when i do it !!! Good luck - Deb Lisa <blacksands (AT) comcast (DOT) net> herbal remedies Thu, January 14, 2010 4:48:02 PM RE: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! Thanks for your update Doc, I’m on Day 3 of the Liver/Gallbladder cleanse (week 3) and I feel pretty good…I’ve lost 16 pounds J thus far and I suspect it will continue. The morning flush is hard to do, not because of the taste (fresh juiced oranges work great) but it’s because I can’t get the ginger and garlic chopped up enough in my chopper so I wind up having to drink chunks (not so great). I also think I’m going to run out of the intestinal detox formula since I’ve got two days to go and I’ve had to do less than teaspoon with the hopes that I don’t run out (I’ve taken it as prescribed for the duration…but still believe I’ll be short). I am also having a hard time keeping to your suggested schedule but I do get most everything in by the end of the day. I’ve had to stop rebounding (which I just started) due to a possible broken toe (at least badly bruised/swollen) on EACH foot – don’t ask!!! I think once I lose another 10 pounds I’ll probably be able to exercise in moderation. I’ll be right along with you as far as keeping it raw, simple and juicing once I get the TBC complete as I want to get to my ideal weight also. I will add things in but with extreme moderation. I have access to raw cow’s milk and will stick with that but will keep it to very small amounts. The chickens in the backyard provide both meat and eggs for me…and I guess I’ll reconsider getting that piglet! I’ll keep the glass of red wine to once or twice a week and now that my stomach is shrinking it’ll be much easier to maintain the CORRECT portions. I made half the recipe of the potassium broth and have yet to drink any as I find that everything on the list keeps me fairly full. Maybe I’ll add it to my TN in the morning. Keep it up – looks like I’m a day ahead of you…catch me if you can J Lisa herbal remedies@ . com [ herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Doc Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:15 PM herbal remedies@ . com Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! Hey Lisa, Thanks for the update, and you ' re doing great. Keep it up and I have no doubt you ' ll put this Grave ' s in the Grave (pun intended ;o)))). I ' m on Day Two of the Liver / Gallbladder / Pancreas Cleanse and beginning to feel absolutely AWESOME. Of course, I ' ve also been doing the entire cleanse by Juice Fasting ONLY. This makes it real intense = kinda doubles the wins you ' re already having on the Cleanse itself. I ' ve dropped 10 lbs which has slowed down a bit from Week 1, but this is to be expected during Week 2 when the Intestinal Detox is sitting in your bowel sucking out all those toxins. Once Week 3 is over with, I ' ll probably drop 5 pounds just in fecal matter. Once the TBC is over for me, it ' ll be Juice Fast only until I reach my ideal weight. Then I start my Exercise Program to put back on any lost muscle mass, while alternating Juice Fast Days with All Raw Days. I ' ll add meat back into the regimen after all this is done. CJ (another list member) and I are doing this together and keeping weekly notes and Weight Charts = anyone wishing to do this needs to approach it almost from a Scientific Method basis. I ' m a firm believer in keeping Statistics on this kind of stuff. Here are my last recommendations to her to make the weight loss permanent = never to return. Certain things have to go for good. That ' s all there is to it. For me = no more of the following from hereon out. It is the only solution for someone my age (63) since the body won ' t cover for me any more. NO MORE: Pork, Beef, or Dairy Products. Exception: Raw Goat ' s milk and Raw Goat ' s Cheese = Alkaline and only in moderation. No more Chocolate (my biggest weakness ))))). No more Booze in any way whatsoever. There is no "good" alcoholic drink. Period. No more Coffee. Coffee is a Weight Gain TRIGGER. Also causes heart difficulties. No more Grains that aren ' t 100% Sprouted. No more Sugar Products or cooking with Sugar. Honey is kept to a minimum and used in cooking only. DO EAT: Fowl (Chicken, Pheasant, Duck , Turkey , Quail, Goose, and Grouse etc.) (Wild or Organic only) Fish (Ocean Caught only) Wild Game. All meats as above must be taken in no more than 4 to 6 oz portions. 6oz is the ultimate max. Lots of raw salads, veggies. Eat Cooked Veggies especially if they are dark green. Eat Sprouted Grains in moderation, and raw is best. That ' s all there is to it. Eat in moderate size quantities, get some regular exercise and neither of us will gain a pound. PERIOD ! ! ! ! ! ! Hugs, Doc On 1/7/2010 6:24 PM, Lisa wrote: Thanks Doc. I’ll consider extending the TBC to get to my own “true†weight – which I too, have not been at for several years (1 child, twins, snacks, drinks etc.). I am finding that on the TBC when it comes time for my vegan lunch or vegan dinner – I’m simply not hungry. The two Total Nutrition drinks are quite fulfilling, although I do nibble on fresh fruit, sprouted nuts (a NEW find for me thanks to the sprouting book I got from you folks and sprouted seeds. I am glad knowing that the TN drink can sustain me (picked up two more bottles of UDO’s oil today) as I’m just not hungry for more. I’m losing about ¾ lb a day – sometimes more…but I’m glad it’s coming off. I feel better…not so bloated and the energy has picked up. I saw my Endocrinologist and he’s ok with taking a conservative approach (i.e. no thyroid scan at this time) with the hopes that I get better. Granted, his “better†is different from mine as he feels Grave’s Disease goes into remission and is rarely “curedâ€â€¦me, I’m convinced I can get better and STAY better/CURED! Thanks again for everything. I’m on Day 11…2nd day of the Intestinal Detox (much better with organic apple juice J)! Lisa P.S. With the Total Nutrition – using both dulse powder and dulse flakes (that look purple) and Brewer’s yeast grown on beets…will this be sufficient for these two items? herbal remedies@ . com [ herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Doc Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:27 PM herbal remedies@ . com Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! I wouldn ' t Lisa. The Chlorella in the Total Nutrition and the Cilantro & Garlic in the Total Tonic are the best natural Chelators you can find. A full Total Body Cleanse is ALSO a full Chelation of the body. The only thing that would make this even more effective is if you were to do a Juice Fast while doing the TBC. That would be the ultimate Cleanse. When juicing simply add more Cilantro and Garlic to your fresh juices. Hope this helps. In Knowledge, Health & Freedom, Doc PS. I too am currently on my annual Cleanse. Was a little bit bad over the holidays (yes, even I err once in a while when it comes to chocolate ))))))))) and I ' m not only doing a full TBC, I ' m on a 45 day (minimum) Juice Fast. When doing one of these, I up my TN content to 2 Tbls 3 times a day. Needless to say, all hell is breaking loose in the toxins coming out of the body department, but I ' m feeling better with each day, and I ' m dropping weight like a stone = a pound a day is coming off. This is, of course, the safe way to lose weight so you don ' t go into a Healing Crisis. My goal is to get down to my pre-marriage weight = 40 lbs off. Now, I ' m 6 ' 1" so I ' ve never looked bad at 190, but as I get older, I want to actually get healthier in order to prolong life. I ' m 63 and the body doesn ' t cover for my cheating like it used to so the weight has to go - permanently ;o)))))))))) )))))))) On 1/6/2010 8:07 PM, Lisa wrote: Hi Mary/Doc, I was wondering…when I complete the 4 week Total Body cleanse do you think an [oral] chelation would be in order? I know the cleanse helps with some heavy metals but will it do as thorough a job as a chelation? I’m merely trying to think ahead and prepare myself if I need to have anything particular on hand in order to accomplish this. Thanks. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 You're more than welcome Deb. I'm cc'ing Mary, the Director of Organic Solutions, our herbal company, and she can jump in on this in order to start sending you the data on it all. Did you ever receive that FREE CD Lecture of mine yet??? This is the place to begin, and then purchasing the full Lecture Series would be the next step. I find that people who approach it this way get the knowledge (and the encouragement) they need to "git 'er done" ))) Best would be to start the cleanse on a Fri or a Thur in order to get over any hump that might arise when the detox starts. Nothing serious could happen, but it's best to "get into it" on a weekend. By Monday, the both of you will be well into it and experiencing wins. He can take all of it to work except for the Liver Cleanse. This 5 day period would be best scheduled for a long weekend. It has been done, but it is tough. Hugs, Doc On 1/21/2010 4:21 PM, Deborah Litvin wrote:  Hi Doc, Every so often i forward an email from our group to my husband -- which of course he responds with comments such as "wow!" or "that sounds awesome!" So today, he asked me to formally ask you about the Cleanse (after he read the email you sent me today . Although we werent going to officially do the TBC till spring time - my husband is thinking of doing it sooner. (I believe its more for the weight loss aspect, but the health benefits that come along with it sound very exciting as well.)  In any case, my hubby has one basic question: he works in Manhattan at a regular 9-6 corporate job and needs to know if the cleanse will cause him to be running to the bathroom all day? would he need to take off a few days/ week from work to do it properly? If you could give me some more information on that it would be great! thanks so much - hope to hear from you soon, Deb Doc <Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com> herbal remedies Thu, January 21, 2010 12:57:40 PM Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?!  Dear Deb, You're more than welcome. I'm now into day 18 of the TBC AND my Juice Fast. I've dropped over 12 pounds, and I went to visit my Massage Therapist yesterday who was just astounded. He told me that in two weeks, I now have the skin tone and look of a 30 year old. Not bad for an old Curmudgeon who's pushing 64 ;o))))) I've got 40 pounds to lose altogether, and at first it seemed almost NOT doable. After Day 3 the hunger pangs lessened dramatically, and then after Week 1, when I made up my mind I actually WAS having fun with it and that I was actually enjoying the challenge of it all, I became aware that I'd been living to eat rather than eating to live as Ben Franklin once said. The ringing in my right ear disappeared altogether, and I hadn't even been taking my Ear Formula (forgot to ) The TBC of course speeds up the entire healing process so I'm feeling pretty chipper. I've got today and tomorrow left on the Kidney Cleanse, and then I'm going to do the Blood Detox Part of the Incurables just for drill, to ensure all organs are as pure as possible. Along with this, I'll be doing the Brain Formula to test out one of my Theories on "Longevity". I'll be doing some before and after pics to show that a person can actually and truly reverse aging to some degree, by rejuvenating the Pituitary and Pineal Glands. This will also ensure the Weight stays off PERMANENTLY !!! Anyway, glad you liked the posts. More later. All the best, Doc On 1/14/2010 8:38 PM, Deborah Litvin wrote:  not to disturb your conversation with the Doc lisa, but i just wanted to say thanks to both of you for posting your notes on the cleanse... after heading Docs lecture -- and reading about the cleanse, my husband and i (if thats the correct grammar?) really want to do it!!! becasue of some family functions coming up, we're going to do it later in the year - but i like hearing about how you guys are doing- im taking notes for when i do it !!! Good luck - Deb Lisa <blacksands (AT) comcast (DOT) net> herbal remedies@ . com Thu, January 14, 2010 4:48:02 PM RE: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! Thanks for your update Doc, I’m on Day 3 of the Liver/Gallbladder cleanse (week 3) and I feel pretty good…I’ve lost 16 pounds J thus far and I suspect it will continue. The morning flush is hard to do, not because of the taste (fresh juiced oranges work great) but it’s because I can’t get the ginger and garlic chopped up enough in my chopper so I wind up having to drink chunks (not so great). I also think I’m going to run out of the intestinal detox formula since I’ve got two days to go and I’ve had to do less than teaspoon with the hopes that I don’t run out (I’ve taken it as prescribed for the duration…but still believe I’ll be short). I am also having a hard time keeping to your suggested schedule but I do get most everything in by the end of the day. I’ve had to stop rebounding (which I just started) due to a possible broken toe (at least badly bruised/swollen) on EACH foot – don’t ask!!! I think once I lose another 10 pounds I’ll probably be able to exercise in moderation. I’ll be right along with you as far as keeping it raw, simple and juicing once I get the TBC complete as I want to get to my ideal weight also. I will add things in but with extreme moderation. I have access to raw cow’s milk and will stick with that but will keep it to very small amounts. The chickens in the backyard provide both meat and eggs for me…and I guess I’ll reconsider getting that piglet! I’ll keep the glass of red wine to once or twice a week and now that my stomach is shrinking it’ll be much easier to maintain the CORRECT portions. I made half the recipe of the potassium broth and have yet to drink any as I find that everything on the list keeps me fairly full. Maybe I’ll add it to my TN in the morning. Keep it up – looks like I’m a day ahead of you…catch me if you can J Lisa herbal remedies@ . com [ herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Doc Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:15 PM herbal remedies@ . com Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! Hey Lisa, Thanks for the update, and you ' re doing great. Keep it up and I have no doubt you ' ll put this Grave ' s in the Grave (pun intended ;o)))). I ' m on Day Two of the Liver / Gallbladder / Pancreas Cleanse and beginning to feel absolutely AWESOME. Of course, I ' ve also been doing the entire cleanse by Juice Fasting ONLY. This makes it real intense = kinda doubles the wins you ' re already having on the Cleanse itself. I ' ve dropped 10 lbs which has slowed down a bit from Week 1, but this is to be expected during Week 2 when the Intestinal Detox is sitting in your bowel sucking out all those toxins. Once Week 3 is over with, I ' ll probably drop 5 pounds just in fecal matter. Once the TBC is over for me, it ' ll be Juice Fast only until I reach my ideal weight. Then I start my Exercise Program to put back on any lost muscle mass, while alternating Juice Fast Days with All Raw Days. I ' ll add meat back into the regimen after all this is done. CJ (another list member) and I are doing this together and keeping weekly notes and Weight Charts = anyone wishing to do this needs to approach it almost from a Scientific Method basis. I ' m a firm believer in keeping Statistics on this kind of stuff. Here are my last recommendations to her to make the weight loss permanent = never to return. Certain things have to go for good. That ' s all there is to it. For me = no more of the following from hereon out. It is the only solution for someone my age (63) since the body won ' t cover for me any more. NO MORE: Pork, Beef, or Dairy Products. Exception: Raw Goat ' s milk and Raw Goat ' s Cheese = Alkaline and only in moderation. No more Chocolate (my biggest weakness ))))). No more Booze in any way whatsoever. There is no "good" alcoholic drink. Period. No more Coffee. Coffee is a Weight Gain TRIGGER. Also causes heart difficulties. No more Grains that aren ' t 100% Sprouted. No more Sugar Products or cooking with Sugar. Honey is kept to a minimum and used in cooking only. DO EAT: Fowl (Chicken, Pheasant, Duck , Turkey , Quail, Goose, and Grouse etc.) (Wild or Organic only) Fish (Ocean Caught only)  Wild Game. All meats as above must be taken in no more than 4 to 6 oz portions. 6oz is the ultimate max. Lots of raw salads, veggies. Eat Cooked Veggies especially if they are dark green. Eat Sprouted Grains in moderation, and raw is best. That ' s all there is to it. Eat in moderate size quantities, get some regular exercise and neither of us will gain a pound. PERIOD ! ! ! ! ! ! Hugs, Doc On 1/7/2010 6:24 PM, Lisa wrote: Thanks Doc. I’ll consider extending the TBC to get to my own “true†weight – which I too, have not been at for several years (1 child, twins, snacks, drinks etc.). I am finding that on the TBC when it comes time for my vegan lunch or vegan dinner – I’m simply not hungry. The two Total Nutrition drinks are quite fulfilling, although I do nibble on fresh fruit, sprouted nuts (a NEW find for me thanks to the sprouting book I got from you folks and sprouted seeds. I am glad knowing that the TN drink can sustain me (picked up two more bottles of UDO’s oil today) as I’m just not hungry for more. I’m losing about ¾ lb a day – sometimes more…but I’m glad it’s coming off. I feel better…not so bloated and the energy has picked up. I saw my Endocrinologist and he’s ok with taking a conservative approach (i.e. no thyroid scan at this time) with the hopes that I get better. Granted, his “better†is different from mine as he feels Grave’s Disease goes into remission and is rarely “curedâ€â€¦me, I’m convinced I can get better and STAY better/CURED! Thanks again for everything. I’m on Day 11…2nd day of the Intestinal Detox (much better with organic apple juice J)! Lisa P.S. With the Total Nutrition – using both dulse powder and dulse flakes (that look purple) and Brewer’s yeast grown on beets…will this be sufficient for these two items? herbal remedies@ . com [ herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Doc Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:27 PM herbal remedies@ . com Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! I wouldn ' t Lisa. The Chlorella in the Total Nutrition and the Cilantro & Garlic in the Total Tonic are the best natural Chelators you can find. A full Total Body Cleanse is ALSO a full Chelation of the body. The only thing that would make this even more effective is if you were to do a Juice Fast while doing the TBC. That would be the ultimate Cleanse. When juicing simply add more Cilantro and Garlic to your fresh juices. Hope this helps. In Knowledge, Health & Freedom, Doc PS. I too am currently on my annual Cleanse. Was a little bit bad over the holidays (yes, even I err once in a while when it comes to chocolate ))))))))) and I ' m not only doing a full TBC, I ' m on a 45 day (minimum) Juice Fast. When doing one of these, I up my TN content to 2 Tbls 3 times a day. Needless to say, all hell is breaking loose in the toxins coming out of the body department, but I ' m feeling better with each day, and I ' m dropping weight like a stone = a pound a day is coming off. This is, of course, the safe way to lose weight so you don ' t go into a Healing Crisis. My goal is to get down to my pre-marriage weight = 40 lbs off. Now, I ' m 6 ' 1" so I ' ve never looked bad at 190, but as I get older, I want to actually get healthier in order to prolong life. I ' m 63 and the body doesn ' t cover for my cheating like it used to so the weight has to go - permanently ;o)))))))))) )))))))) On 1/6/2010 8:07 PM, Lisa wrote: Hi Mary/Doc, I was wondering…when I complete the 4 week Total Body cleanse do you think an [oral] chelation would be in order? I know the cleanse helps with some heavy metals but will it do as thorough a job as a chelation? I’m merely trying to think ahead and prepare myself if I need to have anything particular on hand in order to accomplish this. Thanks. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Deb, Jumping in to let ya know that we had a corporate CEO complete a cleanse about a month ago. He had a tricky schedule but was able to work it out ! Mary Doc wrote:  You're more than welcome Deb. I'm cc'ing Mary, the Director of Organic Solutions, our herbal company, and she can jump in on this in order to start sending you the data on it all. Did you ever receive that FREE CD Lecture of mine yet??? This is the place to begin, and then purchasing the full Lecture Series would be the next step. I find that people who approach it this way get the knowledge (and the encouragement) they need to "git 'er done" ))) Best would be to start the cleanse on a Fri or a Thur in order to get over any hump that might arise when the detox starts. Nothing serious could happen, but it's best to "get into it" on a weekend. By Monday, the both of you will be well into it and experiencing wins. He can take all of it to work except for the Liver Cleanse. This 5 day period would be best scheduled for a long weekend. It has been done, but it is tough. Hugs, Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hi Doc & Mary,I have the free lecture - which i listened to intently and enjoyed IMMENSELY !!! - over the weekend, im gonna make sure my hubby listens to it so he really understands that whole cleanse. i dont have the second lecture (yet) - was going to order it with my next order which should be soonish. Is it a good idea to listen to the second lecture before getting started on the Cleanse? Thanks so much - Deb Doc <Docherbal remedies Cc: MaryO <MaryThu, January 21, 2010 5:23:45 PMRe: {Herbal Remedies} My husbands been converted ! You're more than welcome Deb. I'm cc'ing Mary, the Director of Organic Solutions, our herbal company, and she can jump in on this in order to start sending you the data on it all. Did you ever receive that FREE CD Lecture of mine yet??? This is the place to begin, and then purchasing the full Lecture Series would be the next step. I find that people who approach it this way get the knowledge (and the encouragement) they need to "git 'er done" ))) Best would be to start the cleanse on a Fri or a Thur in order to get over any hump that might arise when the detox starts. Nothing serious could happen, but it's best to "get into it" on a weekend. By Monday, the both of you will be well into it and experiencing wins. He can take all of it to work except for the Liver Cleanse. This 5 day period would be best scheduled for a long weekend. It has been done, but it is tough. Hugs, Doc On 1/21/2010 4:21 PM, Deborah Litvin wrote: Hi Doc, Every so often i forward an email from our group to my husband -- which of course he responds with comments such as "wow!" or "that sounds awesome!" So today, he asked me to formally ask you about the Cleanse (after he read the email you sent me today . Although we werent going to officially do the TBC till spring time - my husband is thinking of doing it sooner. (I believe its more for the weight loss aspect, but the health benefits that come along with it sound very exciting as well.) In any case, my hubby has one basic question: he works in Manhattan at a regular 9-6 corporate job and needs to know if the cleanse will cause him to be running to the bathroom all day? would he need to take off a few days/ week from work to do it properly? If you could give me some more information on that it would be great! thanks so much - hope to hear from you soon, Deb Doc <Doc@AcademyOfNatura lHealing. com> herbal remedies Thu, January 21, 2010 12:57:40 PM Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! Dear Deb, You're more than welcome. I'm now into day 18 of the TBC AND my Juice Fast. I've dropped over 12 pounds, and I went to visit my Massage Therapist yesterday who was just astounded. He told me that in two weeks, I now have the skin tone and look of a 30 year old. Not bad for an old Curmudgeon who's pushing 64 ;o))))) I've got 40 pounds to lose altogether, and at first it seemed almost NOT doable. After Day 3 the hunger pangs lessened dramatically, and then after Week 1, when I made up my mind I actually WAS having fun with it and that I was actually enjoying the challenge of it all, I became aware that I'd been living to eat rather than eating to live as Ben Franklin once said. The ringing in my right ear disappeared altogether, and I hadn't even been taking my Ear Formula (forgot to ) The TBC of course speeds up the entire healing process so I'm feeling pretty chipper. I've got today and tomorrow left on the Kidney Cleanse, and then I'm going to do the Blood Detox Part of the Incurables just for drill, to ensure all organs are as pure as possible. Along with this, I'll be doing the Brain Formula to test out one of my Theories on "Longevity". I'll be doing some before and after pics to show that a person can actually and truly reverse aging to some degree, by rejuvenating the Pituitary and Pineal Glands. This will also ensure the Weight stays off PERMANENTLY !!! Anyway, glad you liked the posts. More later. All the best, Doc On 1/14/2010 8:38 PM, Deborah Litvin wrote: not to disturb your conversation with the Doc lisa, but i just wanted to say thanks to both of you for posting your notes on the cleanse... after heading Docs lecture -- and reading about the cleanse, my husband and i (if thats the correct grammar?) really want to do it!!! becasue of some family functions coming up, we're going to do it later in the year - but i like hearing about how you guys are doing- im taking notes for when i do it !!! Good luck - Deb Lisa <blacksands (AT) comcast (DOT) net> herbal remedies@ . com Thu, January 14, 2010 4:48:02 PM RE: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! Thanks for your update Doc, I’m on Day 3 of the Liver/Gallbladder cleanse (week 3) and I feel pretty good…I’ve lost 16 pounds J thus far and I suspect it will continue. The morning flush is hard to do, not because of the taste (fresh juiced oranges work great) but it’s because I can’t get the ginger and garlic chopped up enough in my chopper so I wind up having to drink chunks (not so great). I also think I’m going to run out of the intestinal detox formula since I’ve got two days to go and I’ve had to do less than teaspoon with the hopes that I don’t run out (I’ve taken it as prescribed for the duration…but still believe I’ll be short). I am also having a hard time keeping to your suggested schedule but I do get most everything in by the end of the day. I’ve had to stop rebounding (which I just started) due to a possible broken toe (at least badly bruised/swollen) on EACH foot – don’t ask!!! I think once I lose another 10 pounds I’ll probably be able to exercise in moderation. I’ll be right along with you as far as keeping it raw, simple and juicing once I get the TBC complete as I want to get to my ideal weight also. I will add things in but with extreme moderation. I have access to raw cow’s milk and will stick with that but will keep it to very small amounts. The chickens in the backyard provide both meat and eggs for me…and I guess I’ll reconsider getting that piglet! I’ll keep the glass of red wine to once or twice a week and now that my stomach is shrinking it’ll be much easier to maintain the CORRECT portions. I made half the recipe of the potassium broth and have yet to drink any as I find that everything on the list keeps me fairly full. Maybe I’ll add it to my TN in the morning. Keep it up – looks like I’m a day ahead of you…catch me if you can J Lisa herbal remedies@ . com [ herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Doc Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:15 PM herbal remedies@ . com Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! Hey Lisa, Thanks for the update, and you ' re doing great. Keep it up and I have no doubt you ' ll put this Grave ' s in the Grave (pun intended ;o)))). I ' m on Day Two of the Liver / Gallbladder / Pancreas Cleanse and beginning to feel absolutely AWESOME. Of course, I ' ve also been doing the entire cleanse by Juice Fasting ONLY. This makes it real intense = kinda doubles the wins you ' re already having on the Cleanse itself. I ' ve dropped 10 lbs which has slowed down a bit from Week 1, but this is to be expected during Week 2 when the Intestinal Detox is sitting in your bowel sucking out all those toxins. Once Week 3 is over with, I ' ll probably drop 5 pounds just in fecal matter. Once the TBC is over for me, it ' ll be Juice Fast only until I reach my ideal weight. Then I start my Exercise Program to put back on any lost muscle mass, while alternating Juice Fast Days with All Raw Days. I ' ll add meat back into the regimen after all this is done. CJ (another list member) and I are doing this together and keeping weekly notes and Weight Charts = anyone wishing to do this needs to approach it almost from a Scientific Method basis. I ' m a firm believer in keeping Statistics on this kind of stuff. Here are my last recommendations to her to make the weight loss permanent = never to return. Certain things have to go for good. That ' s all there is to it. For me = no more of the following from hereon out. It is the only solution for someone my age (63) since the body won ' t cover for me any more. NO MORE: Pork, Beef, or Dairy Products. Exception: Raw Goat ' s milk and Raw Goat ' s Cheese = Alkaline and only in moderation. No more Chocolate (my biggest weakness ))))). No more Booze in any way whatsoever. There is no "good" alcoholic drink. Period. No more Coffee. Coffee is a Weight Gain TRIGGER. Also causes heart difficulties. No more Grains that aren ' t 100% Sprouted. No more Sugar Products or cooking with Sugar. Honey is kept to a minimum and used in cooking only. DO EAT: Fowl (Chicken, Pheasant, Duck , Turkey , Quail, Goose, and Grouse etc.) (Wild or Organic only) Fish (Ocean Caught only) Wild Game. All meats as above must be taken in no more than 4 to 6 oz portions. 6oz is the ultimate max. Lots of raw salads, veggies. Eat Cooked Veggies especially if they are dark green. Eat Sprouted Grains in moderation, and raw is best. That ' s all there is to it. Eat in moderate size quantities, get some regular exercise and neither of us will gain a pound. PERIOD ! ! ! ! ! ! Hugs, Doc On 1/7/2010 6:24 PM, Lisa wrote: Thanks Doc. I’ll consider extending the TBC to get to my own “true†weight – which I too, have not been at for several years (1 child, twins, snacks, drinks etc.). I am finding that on the TBC when it comes time for my vegan lunch or vegan dinner – I’m simply not hungry. The two Total Nutrition drinks are quite fulfilling, although I do nibble on fresh fruit, sprouted nuts (a NEW find for me thanks to the sprouting book I got from you folks and sprouted seeds. I am glad knowing that the TN drink can sustain me (picked up two more bottles of UDO’s oil today) as I’m just not hungry for more. I’m losing about ¾ lb a day – sometimes more…but I’m glad it’s coming off. I feel better…not so bloated and the energy has picked up. I saw my Endocrinologist and he’s ok with taking a conservative approach (i.e. no thyroid scan at this time) with the hopes that I get better. Granted, his “better†is different from mine as he feels Grave’s Disease goes into remission and is rarely “curedâ€â€¦me, I’m convinced I can get better and STAY better/CURED! Thanks again for everything. I’m on Day 11…2nd day of the Intestinal Detox (much better with organic apple juice J)! Lisa P.S. With the Total Nutrition – using both dulse powder and dulse flakes (that look purple) and Brewer’s yeast grown on beets…will this be sufficient for these two items? herbal remedies@ . com [ herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Doc Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:27 PM herbal remedies@ . com Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! I wouldn ' t Lisa. The Chlorella in the Total Nutrition and the Cilantro & Garlic in the Total Tonic are the best natural Chelators you can find. A full Total Body Cleanse is ALSO a full Chelation of the body. The only thing that would make this even more effective is if you were to do a Juice Fast while doing the TBC. That would be the ultimate Cleanse. When juicing simply add more Cilantro and Garlic to your fresh juices. Hope this helps. In Knowledge, Health & Freedom, Doc PS. I too am currently on my annual Cleanse. Was a little bit bad over the holidays (yes, even I err once in a while when it comes to chocolate ))))))))) and I ' m not only doing a full TBC, I ' m on a 45 day (minimum) Juice Fast. When doing one of these, I up my TN content to 2 Tbls 3 times a day. Needless to say, all hell is breaking loose in the toxins coming out of the body department, but I ' m feeling better with each day, and I ' m dropping weight like a stone = a pound a day is coming off. This is, of course, the safe way to lose weight so you don ' t go into a Healing Crisis. My goal is to get down to my pre-marriage weight = 40 lbs off. Now, I ' m 6 ' 1" so I ' ve never looked bad at 190, but as I get older, I want to actually get healthier in order to prolong life. I ' m 63 and the body doesn ' t cover for my cheating like it used to so the weight has to go - permanently ;o)))))))))) )))))))) On 1/6/2010 8:07 PM, Lisa wrote: Hi Mary/Doc, I was wondering…when I complete the 4 week Total Body cleanse do you think an [oral] chelation would be in order? I know the cleanse helps with some heavy metals but will it do as thorough a job as a chelation? I’m merely trying to think ahead and prepare myself if I need to have anything particular on hand in order to accomplish this. Thanks. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Deb, Definately listen to the second lecture before you begin the cleanse ! Mary Deborah Litvin wrote:  Hi Doc & Mary, I have the free lecture - which i listened to intently and enjoyed IMMENSELY !!! - over the weekend, im gonna make sure my hubby listens to it so he really understands that whole cleanse. i dont have the second lecture (yet) - was going to order it with my next order which should be soonish. Is it a good idea to listen to the second lecture before getting started on the Cleanse? Thanks so much - Deb  Doc <Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com> herbal remedies Cc: MaryO <Mary (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com> Thu, January 21, 2010 5:23:45 PM Re: {Herbal Remedies} My husbands been converted !  You're more than welcome Deb. I'm cc'ing Mary, the Director of Organic Solutions, our herbal company, and she can jump in on this in order to start sending you the data on it all. Did you ever receive that FREE CD Lecture of mine yet??? This is the place to begin, and then purchasing the full Lecture Series would be the next step. I find that people who approach it this way get the knowledge (and the encouragement) they need to "git 'er done" ))) Best would be to start the cleanse on a Fri or a Thur in order to get over any hump that might arise when the detox starts. Nothing serious could happen, but it's best to "get into it" on a weekend. By Monday, the both of you will be well into it and experiencing wins. He can take all of it to work except for the Liver Cleanse. This 5 day period would be best scheduled for a long weekend. It has been done, but it is tough. Hugs, Doc On 1/21/2010 4:21 PM, Deborah Litvin wrote:  Hi Doc, Every so often i forward an email from our group to my husband -- which of course he responds with comments such as "wow!" or "that sounds awesome!" So today, he asked me to formally ask you about the Cleanse (after he read the email you sent me today . Although we werent going to officially do the TBC till spring time - my husband is thinking of doing it sooner. (I believe its more for the weight loss aspect, but the health benefits that come along with it sound very exciting as well.)  In any case, my hubby has one basic question: he works in Manhattan at a regular 9-6 corporate job and needs to know if the cleanse will cause him to be running to the bathroom all day? would he need to take off a few days/ week from work to do it properly? If you could give me some more information on that it would be great! thanks so much - hope to hear from you soon, Deb Doc <Doc@AcademyOfNatura lHealing. com> herbal remedies@ . com Thu, January 21, 2010 12:57:40 PM Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?!  Dear Deb, You're more than welcome. I'm now into day 18 of the TBC AND my Juice Fast. I've dropped over 12 pounds, and I went to visit my Massage Therapist yesterday who was just astounded. He told me that in two weeks, I now have the skin tone and look of a 30 year old. Not bad for an old Curmudgeon who's pushing 64 ;o))))) I've got 40 pounds to lose altogether, and at first it seemed almost NOT doable. After Day 3 the hunger pangs lessened dramatically, and then after Week 1, when I made up my mind I actually WAS having fun with it and that I was actually enjoying the challenge of it all, I became aware that I'd been living to eat rather than eating to live as Ben Franklin once said. The ringing in my right ear disappeared altogether, and I hadn't even been taking my Ear Formula (forgot to ) The TBC of course speeds up the entire healing process so I'm feeling pretty chipper. I've got today and tomorrow left on the Kidney Cleanse, and then I'm going to do the Blood Detox Part of the Incurables just for drill, to ensure all organs are as pure as possible. Along with this, I'll be doing the Brain Formula to test out one of my Theories on "Longevity". I'll be doing some before and after pics to show that a person can actually and truly reverse aging to some degree, by rejuvenating the Pituitary and Pineal Glands. This will also ensure the Weight stays off PERMANENTLY !!! Anyway, glad you liked the posts. More later. All the best, Doc On 1/14/2010 8:38 PM, Deborah Litvin wrote:  not to disturb your conversation with the Doc lisa, but i just wanted to say thanks to both of you for posting your notes on the cleanse... after heading Docs lecture -- and reading about the cleanse, my husband and i (if thats the correct grammar?) really want to do it!!! becasue of some family functions coming up, we're going to do it later in the year - but i like hearing about how you guys are doing- im taking notes for when i do it !!! Good luck - Deb Lisa <blacksands (AT) comcast (DOT) net> To: herbal remedies@ . com Thu, January 14, 2010 4:48:02 PM RE: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! Thanks for your update Doc, I’m on Day 3 of the Liver/Gallbladder cleanse (week 3) and I feel pretty good…I’ve lost 16 pounds J thus far and I suspect it will continue. The morning flush is hard to do, not because of the taste (fresh juiced oranges work great) but it’s because I can’t get the ginger and garlic chopped up enough in my chopper so I wind up having to drink chunks (not so great). I also think I’m going to run out of the intestinal detox formula since I’ve got two days to go and I’ve had to do less than teaspoon with the hopes that I don’t run out (I’ve taken it as prescribed for the duration…but still believe I’ll be short). I am also having a hard time keeping to your suggested schedule but I do get most everything in by the end of the day. I’ve had to stop rebounding (which I just started) due to a possible broken toe (at least badly bruised/swollen) on EACH foot – don’t ask!!! I think once I lose another 10 pounds I’ll probably be able to exercise in moderation. I’ll be right along with you as far as keeping it raw, simple and juicing once I get the TBC complete as I want to get to my ideal weight also. I will add things in but with extreme moderation. I have access to raw cow’s milk and will stick with that but will keep it to very small amounts. The chickens in the backyard provide both meat and eggs for me…and I guess I’ll reconsider getting that piglet! I’ll keep the glass of red wine to once or twice a week and now that my stomach is shrinking it’ll be much easier to maintain the CORRECT portions. I made half the recipe of the potassium broth and have yet to drink any as I find that everything on the list keeps me fairly full. Maybe I’ll add it to my TN in the morning. Keep it up – looks like I’m a day ahead of you…catch me if you can J Lisa herbal remedies@ . com [ herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Doc Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:15 PM To: herbal remedies@ . com Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! Hey Lisa, Thanks for the update, and you ' re doing great. Keep it up and I have no doubt you ' ll put this Grave ' s in the Grave (pun intended ;o)))). I ' m on Day Two of the Liver / Gallbladder / Pancreas Cleanse and beginning to feel absolutely AWESOME. Of course, I ' ve also been doing the entire cleanse by Juice Fasting ONLY. This makes it real intense = kinda doubles the wins you ' re already having on the Cleanse itself. I ' ve dropped 10 lbs which has slowed down a bit from Week 1, but this is to be expected during Week 2 when the Intestinal Detox is sitting in your bowel sucking out all those toxins. Once Week 3 is over with, I ' ll probably drop 5 pounds just in fecal matter. Once the TBC is over for me, it ' ll be Juice Fast only until I reach my ideal weight. Then I start my Exercise Program to put back on any lost muscle mass, while alternating Juice Fast Days with All Raw Days. I ' ll add meat back into the regimen after all this is done. CJ (another list member) and I are doing this together and keeping weekly notes and Weight Charts = anyone wishing to do this needs to approach it almost from a Scientific Method basis. I ' m a firm believer in keeping Statistics on this kind of stuff. Here are my last recommendations to her to make the weight loss permanent = never to return. Certain things have to go for good. That ' s all there is to it. For me = no more of the following from hereon out. It is the only solution for someone my age (63) since the body won ' t cover for me any more. NO MORE: Pork, Beef, or Dairy Products. Exception: Raw Goat ' s milk and Raw Goat ' s Cheese = Alkaline and only in moderation. No more Chocolate (my biggest weakness ))))). No more Booze in any way whatsoever. There is no "good" alcoholic drink. Period. No more Coffee. Coffee is a Weight Gain TRIGGER. Also causes heart difficulties. No more Grains that aren ' t 100% Sprouted. No more Sugar Products or cooking with Sugar. Honey is kept to a minimum and used in cooking only. DO EAT: Fowl (Chicken, Pheasant, Duck , Turkey , Quail, Goose, and Grouse etc.) (Wild or Organic only) Fish (Ocean Caught only)  Wild Game. All meats as above must be taken in no more than 4 to 6 oz portions. 6oz is the ultimate max. Lots of raw salads, veggies. Eat Cooked Veggies especially if they are dark green. Eat Sprouted Grains in moderation, and raw is best. That ' s all there is to it. Eat in moderate size quantities, get some regular exercise and neither of us will gain a pound. PERIOD ! ! ! ! ! ! Hugs, Doc On 1/7/2010 6:24 PM, Lisa wrote: Thanks Doc. I’ll consider extending the TBC to get to my own “true†weight – which I too, have not been at for several years (1 child, twins, snacks, drinks etc.). I am finding that on the TBC when it comes time for my vegan lunch or vegan dinner – I’m simply not hungry. The two Total Nutrition drinks are quite fulfilling, although I do nibble on fresh fruit, sprouted nuts (a NEW find for me thanks to the sprouting book I got from you folks and sprouted seeds. I am glad knowing that the TN drink can sustain me (picked up two more bottles of UDO’s oil today) as I’m just not hungry for more. I’m losing about ¾ lb a day – sometimes more…but I’m glad it’s coming off. I feel better…not so bloated and the energy has picked up. I saw my Endocrinologist and he’s ok with taking a conservative approach (i.e. no thyroid scan at this time) with the hopes that I get better. Granted, his “better†is different from mine as he feels Grave’s Disease goes into remission and is rarely “curedâ€â€¦me, I’m convinced I can get better and STAY better/CURED! Thanks again for everything. I’m on Day 11…2nd day of the Intestinal Detox (much better with organic apple juice J)! Lisa P.S. With the Total Nutrition – using both dulse powder and dulse flakes (that look purple) and Brewer’s yeast grown on beets…will this be sufficient for these two items? herbal remedies@ . com [ herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Doc Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:27 PM To: herbal remedies@ . com Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! I wouldn ' t Lisa. The Chlorella in the Total Nutrition and the Cilantro & Garlic in the Total Tonic are the best natural Chelators you can find. A full Total Body Cleanse is ALSO a full Chelation of the body. The only thing that would make this even more effective is if you were to do a Juice Fast while doing the TBC. That would be the ultimate Cleanse. When juicing simply add more Cilantro and Garlic to your fresh juices. Hope this helps. In Knowledge, Health & Freedom, Doc PS. I too am currently on my annual Cleanse. Was a little bit bad over the holidays (yes, even I err once in a while when it comes to chocolate ))))))))) and I ' m not only doing a full TBC, I ' m on a 45 day (minimum) Juice Fast. When doing one of these, I up my TN content to 2 Tbls 3 times a day. Needless to say, all hell is breaking loose in the toxins coming out of the body department, but I ' m feeling better with each day, and I ' m dropping weight like a stone = a pound a day is coming off. This is, of course, the safe way to lose weight so you don ' t go into a Healing Crisis. My goal is to get down to my pre-marriage weight = 40 lbs off. Now, I ' m 6 ' 1" so I ' ve never looked bad at 190, but as I get older, I want to actually get healthier in order to prolong life. I ' m 63 and the body doesn ' t cover for my cheating like it used to so the weight has to go - permanently ;o)))))))))) )))))))) On 1/6/2010 8:07 PM, Lisa wrote: Hi Mary/Doc, I was wondering…when I complete the 4 week Total Body cleanse do you think an [oral] chelation would be in order? I know the cleanse helps with some heavy metals but will it do as thorough a job as a chelation? I’m merely trying to think ahead and prepare myself if I need to have anything particular on hand in order to accomplish this. Thanks. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I would definitely have him listen to the second lecture before starting on the cleanse. This is the lecture that explains in detail the pH - Acid / Alkaline Ratio and why some foods are more important than others while cleansing and in life in general. This is so key that it explains in great detail why some people get sick and why others just don't. Says it all ;o))) Not that it's a "must", just recommended. All the best, Doc On 1/21/2010 9:42 PM, Deborah Litvin wrote:  Hi Doc & Mary, I have the free lecture - which i listened to intently and enjoyed IMMENSELY !!! - over the weekend, im gonna make sure my hubby listens to it so he really understands that whole cleanse. i dont have the second lecture (yet) - was going to order it with my next order which should be soonish. Is it a good idea to listen to the second lecture before getting started on the Cleanse? Thanks so much - Deb  Doc <Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com> herbal remedies Cc: MaryO <Mary (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com> Thu, January 21, 2010 5:23:45 PM Re: {Herbal Remedies} My husbands been converted !  You're more than welcome Deb. I'm cc'ing Mary, the Director of Organic Solutions, our herbal company, and she can jump in on this in order to start sending you the data on it all. Did you ever receive that FREE CD Lecture of mine yet??? This is the place to begin, and then purchasing the full Lecture Series would be the next step. I find that people who approach it this way get the knowledge (and the encouragement) they need to "git 'er done" ))) Best would be to start the cleanse on a Fri or a Thur in order to get over any hump that might arise when the detox starts. Nothing serious could happen, but it's best to "get into it" on a weekend. By Monday, the both of you will be well into it and experiencing wins. He can take all of it to work except for the Liver Cleanse. This 5 day period would be best scheduled for a long weekend. It has been done, but it is tough. Hugs, Doc On 1/21/2010 4:21 PM, Deborah Litvin wrote:  Hi Doc, Every so often i forward an email from our group to my husband -- which of course he responds with comments such as "wow!" or "that sounds awesome!" So today, he asked me to formally ask you about the Cleanse (after he read the email you sent me today . Although we werent going to officially do the TBC till spring time - my husband is thinking of doing it sooner. (I believe its more for the weight loss aspect, but the health benefits that come along with it sound very exciting as well.)  In any case, my hubby has one basic question: he works in Manhattan at a regular 9-6 corporate job and needs to know if the cleanse will cause him to be running to the bathroom all day? would he need to take off a few days/ week from work to do it properly? If you could give me some more information on that it would be great! thanks so much - hope to hear from you soon, Deb Doc <Doc@AcademyOfNatura lHealing. com> herbal remedies@ . com Thu, January 21, 2010 12:57:40 PM Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?!  Dear Deb, You're more than welcome. I'm now into day 18 of the TBC AND my Juice Fast. I've dropped over 12 pounds, and I went to visit my Massage Therapist yesterday who was just astounded. He told me that in two weeks, I now have the skin tone and look of a 30 year old. Not bad for an old Curmudgeon who's pushing 64 ;o))))) I've got 40 pounds to lose altogether, and at first it seemed almost NOT doable. After Day 3 the hunger pangs lessened dramatically, and then after Week 1, when I made up my mind I actually WAS having fun with it and that I was actually enjoying the challenge of it all, I became aware that I'd been living to eat rather than eating to live as Ben Franklin once said. The ringing in my right ear disappeared altogether, and I hadn't even been taking my Ear Formula (forgot to ) The TBC of course speeds up the entire healing process so I'm feeling pretty chipper. I've got today and tomorrow left on the Kidney Cleanse, and then I'm going to do the Blood Detox Part of the Incurables just for drill, to ensure all organs are as pure as possible. Along with this, I'll be doing the Brain Formula to test out one of my Theories on "Longevity". I'll be doing some before and after pics to show that a person can actually and truly reverse aging to some degree, by rejuvenating the Pituitary and Pineal Glands. This will also ensure the Weight stays off PERMANENTLY !!! Anyway, glad you liked the posts. More later. All the best, Doc On 1/14/2010 8:38 PM, Deborah Litvin wrote:  not to disturb your conversation with the Doc lisa, but i just wanted to say thanks to both of you for posting your notes on the cleanse... after heading Docs lecture -- and reading about the cleanse, my husband and i (if thats the correct grammar?) really want to do it!!! becasue of some family functions coming up, we're going to do it later in the year - but i like hearing about how you guys are doing- im taking notes for when i do it !!! Good luck - Deb Lisa <blacksands (AT) comcast (DOT) net> To: herbal remedies@ . com Thu, January 14, 2010 4:48:02 PM RE: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! Thanks for your update Doc, I’m on Day 3 of the Liver/Gallbladder cleanse (week 3) and I feel pretty good…I’ve lost 16 pounds J thus far and I suspect it will continue. The morning flush is hard to do, not because of the taste (fresh juiced oranges work great) but it’s because I can’t get the ginger and garlic chopped up enough in my chopper so I wind up having to drink chunks (not so great). I also think I’m going to run out of the intestinal detox formula since I’ve got two days to go and I’ve had to do less than teaspoon with the hopes that I don’t run out (I’ve taken it as prescribed for the duration…but still believe I’ll be short). I am also having a hard time keeping to your suggested schedule but I do get most everything in by the end of the day. I’ve had to stop rebounding (which I just started) due to a possible broken toe (at least badly bruised/swollen) on EACH foot – don’t ask!!! I think once I lose another 10 pounds I’ll probably be able to exercise in moderation. I’ll be right along with you as far as keeping it raw, simple and juicing once I get the TBC complete as I want to get to my ideal weight also. I will add things in but with extreme moderation. I have access to raw cow’s milk and will stick with that but will keep it to very small amounts. The chickens in the backyard provide both meat and eggs for me…and I guess I’ll reconsider getting that piglet! I’ll keep the glass of red wine to once or twice a week and now that my stomach is shrinking it’ll be much easier to maintain the CORRECT portions. I made half the recipe of the potassium broth and have yet to drink any as I find that everything on the list keeps me fairly full. Maybe I’ll add it to my TN in the morning. Keep it up – looks like I’m a day ahead of you…catch me if you can J Lisa herbal remedies@ . com [ herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Doc Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:15 PM To: herbal remedies@ . com Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! Hey Lisa, Thanks for the update, and you ' re doing great. Keep it up and I have no doubt you ' ll put this Grave ' s in the Grave (pun intended ;o)))). I ' m on Day Two of the Liver / Gallbladder / Pancreas Cleanse and beginning to feel absolutely AWESOME. Of course, I ' ve also been doing the entire cleanse by Juice Fasting ONLY. This makes it real intense = kinda doubles the wins you ' re already having on the Cleanse itself. I ' ve dropped 10 lbs which has slowed down a bit from Week 1, but this is to be expected during Week 2 when the Intestinal Detox is sitting in your bowel sucking out all those toxins. Once Week 3 is over with, I ' ll probably drop 5 pounds just in fecal matter. Once the TBC is over for me, it ' ll be Juice Fast only until I reach my ideal weight. Then I start my Exercise Program to put back on any lost muscle mass, while alternating Juice Fast Days with All Raw Days. I ' ll add meat back into the regimen after all this is done. CJ (another list member) and I are doing this together and keeping weekly notes and Weight Charts = anyone wishing to do this needs to approach it almost from a Scientific Method basis. I ' m a firm believer in keeping Statistics on this kind of stuff. Here are my last recommendations to her to make the weight loss permanent = never to return. Certain things have to go for good. That ' s all there is to it. For me = no more of the following from hereon out. It is the only solution for someone my age (63) since the body won ' t cover for me any more. NO MORE: Pork, Beef, or Dairy Products. Exception: Raw Goat ' s milk and Raw Goat ' s Cheese = Alkaline and only in moderation. No more Chocolate (my biggest weakness ))))). No more Booze in any way whatsoever. There is no "good" alcoholic drink. Period. No more Coffee. Coffee is a Weight Gain TRIGGER. Also causes heart difficulties. No more Grains that aren ' t 100% Sprouted. No more Sugar Products or cooking with Sugar. Honey is kept to a minimum and used in cooking only. DO EAT: Fowl (Chicken, Pheasant, Duck , Turkey , Quail, Goose, and Grouse etc.) (Wild or Organic only) Fish (Ocean Caught only)  Wild Game. All meats as above must be taken in no more than 4 to 6 oz portions. 6oz is the ultimate max. Lots of raw salads, veggies. Eat Cooked Veggies especially if they are dark green. Eat Sprouted Grains in moderation, and raw is best. That ' s all there is to it. Eat in moderate size quantities, get some regular exercise and neither of us will gain a pound. PERIOD ! ! ! ! ! ! Hugs, Doc On 1/7/2010 6:24 PM, Lisa wrote: Thanks Doc. I’ll consider extending the TBC to get to my own “true†weight – which I too, have not been at for several years (1 child, twins, snacks, drinks etc.). I am finding that on the TBC when it comes time for my vegan lunch or vegan dinner – I’m simply not hungry. The two Total Nutrition drinks are quite fulfilling, although I do nibble on fresh fruit, sprouted nuts (a NEW find for me thanks to the sprouting book I got from you folks and sprouted seeds. I am glad knowing that the TN drink can sustain me (picked up two more bottles of UDO’s oil today) as I’m just not hungry for more. I’m losing about ¾ lb a day – sometimes more…but I’m glad it’s coming off. I feel better…not so bloated and the energy has picked up. I saw my Endocrinologist and he’s ok with taking a conservative approach (i.e. no thyroid scan at this time) with the hopes that I get better. Granted, his “better†is different from mine as he feels Grave’s Disease goes into remission and is rarely “curedâ€â€¦me, I’m convinced I can get better and STAY better/CURED! Thanks again for everything. I’m on Day 11…2nd day of the Intestinal Detox (much better with organic apple juice J)! Lisa P.S. With the Total Nutrition – using both dulse powder and dulse flakes (that look purple) and Brewer’s yeast grown on beets…will this be sufficient for these two items? herbal remedies@ . com [ herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Doc Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:27 PM To: herbal remedies@ . com Re: {Herbal Remedies} Taking the cleanse further?!?! I wouldn ' t Lisa. The Chlorella in the Total Nutrition and the Cilantro & Garlic in the Total Tonic are the best natural Chelators you can find. A full Total Body Cleanse is ALSO a full Chelation of the body. The only thing that would make this even more effective is if you were to do a Juice Fast while doing the TBC. That would be the ultimate Cleanse. When juicing simply add more Cilantro and Garlic to your fresh juices. Hope this helps. In Knowledge, Health & Freedom, Doc PS. I too am currently on my annual Cleanse. Was a little bit bad over the holidays (yes, even I err once in a while when it comes to chocolate ))))))))) and I ' m not only doing a full TBC, I ' m on a 45 day (minimum) Juice Fast. When doing one of these, I up my TN content to 2 Tbls 3 times a day. Needless to say, all hell is breaking loose in the toxins coming out of the body department, but I ' m feeling better with each day, and I ' m dropping weight like a stone = a pound a day is coming off. This is, of course, the safe way to lose weight so you don ' t go into a Healing Crisis. My goal is to get down to my pre-marriage weight = 40 lbs off. Now, I ' m 6 ' 1" so I ' ve never looked bad at 190, but as I get older, I want to actually get healthier in order to prolong life. I ' m 63 and the body doesn ' t cover for my cheating like it used to so the weight has to go - permanently ;o)))))))))) )))))))) On 1/6/2010 8:07 PM, Lisa wrote: Hi Mary/Doc, I was wondering…when I complete the 4 week Total Body cleanse do you think an [oral] chelation would be in order? I know the cleanse helps with some heavy metals but will it do as thorough a job as a chelation? I’m merely trying to think ahead and prepare myself if I need to have anything particular on hand in order to accomplish this. Thanks. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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