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Anella, thank you for posting about this. I had thought about posting it as my milk was some of the milk that was confiscated and is going to be dumped Monday. Maybe my son and I will drive out to watch it be dumped too. I just dried my goat up last week and now I have no milk or source of milk! I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet.It is ridiculous! I should be allowed to drink whatever milk I want to drink.Christy (Logan, 10) http://farmdreams-christy.blogspot.com/--- On Sun, 10/18/09, jarusso7 <jarusso7 wrote:jarusso7 <jarusso7{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies >Sunday, October 18, 2009, 2:37 PM

 

Has anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well. Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for "real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really be making that big

of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits. This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!Anella

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Here is an article I found that may answer some of your quetions.

http://m.timesrecordnews.com/news/2008/jun/11/health-officials-crack-down-unpasteurized-milk/

My own opinion is that the government wants to control what we eat, does not want us to have the freedom to make our own choices, and is hell-bent on making us sick. How is it that a natural food like rawmilk (that is consumed all over the world on a daily basis without harm) is deemed illegal by the FDA, and yet highly-processed foods that are devoid of real nutrition can be sold legally and as "healthy" fare? Aspartame is deemed a GRAS food, while raw milk is treated like a poison? The world is upside down. The less healthy we are, the more apt we will be to be on pharmaceuticals.

Just my humble two cents worth that I tried to keep simple and short.

 

Lori"I feel ashamed that so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations, striving to be independent and self-reliant and free." - John Taylor Gatto

 

herbal remedies From: jarusso7Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:37:11 +0000{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

Has anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well. Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for "real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits. This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!Anella

 

 

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Amen Lori. I agree 100%. It is really hard to find raw milk in Arizona. Now it will be worse. Remember when alcohol was il legal and people were selling it underground? Might have to do it with raw milk. It's sad how the world is becoming.

 

Karen in AZ

 

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Here is an article I found that may answer some of your quetions.http://m.timesrecordnews.com/news/2008/jun/11/health-officials-crack-down-unpasteurized-milk/My own opinion is that the government wants to control what we eat, does not want us to have the freedom to make our own choices, and is hell-bent on making us sick. How is it that a natural food like rawmilk (that is consumed all over the world on a daily basis without harm) is deemed illegal by the FDA, and yet highly-processed foods that are devoid of real nutrition can be sold legally and as "healthy" fare? Aspartame is deemed a GRAS food, while raw milk is treated like a poison? The world is upside down. The less healthy we are, the more apt we will be to be on pharmaceuticals.Just my humble two cents worth that I tried to keep simple and short. Lori"I feel ashamed that so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations, striving to be independent and self-reliant and free." - John Taylor Gatto

 

herbal remedies From: jarusso7Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:37:11 +0000{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

Has anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well. Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for "real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits. This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!Anella

 

 

 

 

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You are more right on that you know hon. If you check thru the

literature you will find statements from some well recognized names

who claim that a certain percentage of the total worlds population

needs to die, in order to maintain the status quo. I find this

totally alarming, but it does seem to be the way of it. They are

deliberately poisoning our food and water supplies. Yes

pharmaceuticals are BIG business and they arent' about to let go of

even a small piece of it without a fight. They claim they are to

make us well, but the truth is they just make us sicker. Every

single healthy food is being taken away from us in one way or

another, one piece at a time. Raw Milk is just one of many- what

about the so called raw almonds that are no longer raw but

pasteurized and DEAD. The list is endless and mind boggling.

 

zoe

 

Lori Smith wrote:

 

Here is an article I found that may answer some of your quetions.

http://m.timesrecordnews.com/news/2008/jun/11/health-officials-crack-down-unpasteurized-milk/

My own opinion is that the government wants to control what we eat,

does not want us to have the freedom to make our own choices, and is

hell-bent on making us sick. How is it that a natural food like rawmilk

(that is consumed all over the world on a daily basis without harm) is

deemed illegal by the FDA, and yet highly-processed foods that are

devoid of real nutrition can be sold legally and as "healthy" fare?

Aspartame is deemed a GRAS food, while raw milk is treated like a

poison? The world is upside down. The less healthy we are, the more apt

we will be to be on pharmaceuticals.

Just my humble two cents worth that I tried to keep simple and short.

 

Lori

 

"I feel ashamed that

so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking

children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing

their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations,

striving to be independent and self-reliant and free." - John Taylor

Gatto

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:37:11 +0000

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Has

anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia

where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human

consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and

bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can

imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well.

Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a

small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled

to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive

there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that

in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for

"real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information

about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really

be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits.

This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the

food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!

Anella

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Girls,

I am afraid that I am not up do date on this . Are you saying that raw

milk is illegal now.

What's next ? Can you still have your own goats / cows and use your own

milk ?

Mary

 

 

 

Christine ONeal wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anella, thank you for posting about this. I had thought

about posting it as my milk was some of the milk that was confiscated

and is going to be dumped Monday. Maybe my son and I will drive out to

watch it be dumped too. I just dried my goat up last week and now I

have no milk or source of milk! I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet.

 

It is ridiculous! I should be allowed to drink whatever milk I want to

drink.

 

Christy

(Logan, 10)

 

http://farmdreams-christy.blogspot.com/

 

 

--- On Sun, 10/18/09, jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net <jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>

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"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies >

Sunday, October 18, 2009, 2:37 PM

 

 

 

Has

anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia

where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human

consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and

bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can

imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well.

Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a

small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled

to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive

there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that

in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for

"real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information

about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really

be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits.

This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the

food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!

Anella

 

 

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I totally agree!Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42Bryan Schillington <herbal_remedies >Sun, October 18, 2009 12:06:32 PMRE: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

 

Here is an article I found that may answer some of your quetions.

http://m.timesrecordnews.com/news/2008/jun/11/health-officials-crack-down-unpasteurized-milk/

My own opinion is that the government wants to control what we eat, does not want us to have the freedom to make our own choices, and is hell-bent on making us sick. How is it that a natural food like rawmilk (that is consumed all over the world on a daily basis without harm) is deemed illegal by the FDA, and yet highly-processed foods that are devoid of real nutrition can be sold legally and as "healthy" fare? Aspartame is deemed a GRAS food, while raw milk is treated like a poison? The world is upside down. The less healthy we are, the more apt we will be to be on pharmaceuticals.

Just my humble two cents worth that I tried to keep simple and short.

 

Lori"I feel ashamed that so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations, striving to be independent and self-reliant and free." - John Taylor Gatto

 

herbal remediesjarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) netSun, 18 Oct 2009 18:37:11 +0000{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

Has anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well. Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for "real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really be making that big

of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits. This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!Anella

 

 

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I live in East Texas and i've heard nothing of this..I live in a very small town where most people here have their own milk supply!Christine ONeal <christy_imnotredherbal remedies Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 11:58:06 AMRe: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk

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Anella, thank you for posting about this. I had thought about posting it as my milk was some of the milk that was confiscated and is going to be dumped Monday. Maybe my son and I will drive out to watch it be dumped too. I just dried my goat up last week and now I have no milk or source of milk! I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet.It is ridiculous! I should be allowed to drink whatever milk I want to drink.Christy (Logan, 10) http://farmdreams- christy.blogspot .com/--- On Sun, 10/18/09, jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net <jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net <jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies>Sunday, October 18, 2009, 2:37 PM

 

Has anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well. Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for "real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really be making that big

of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits. This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!Anella

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Mary,Raw milk has been illegal for human consumption in many states for many years. I have heard stories of people getting in trouble for giving their own milk to family members who live in different households, not sure if this is true. I have a few goats that I milk, but I make sure only people in this house drink it. Right now, none of my girls are in milk. I need to plan better in the future to make sure I always have someone in milk.Christy (Logan, 10) http://farmdreams-christy.blogspot.com/--- On Sun, 10/18/09, Mary Ostrowski <mary wrote:Mary Ostrowski <maryRe: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdownherbal remedies Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 4:49 PM

 

Girls,

I am afraid that I am not up do date on this . Are you saying that raw

milk is illegal now.

What's next ? Can you still have your own goats / cows and use your own

milk ?

Mary

 

 

 

Christine ONeal wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anella, thank you for posting about this. I had thought

about posting it as my milk was some of the milk that was confiscated

and is going to be dumped Monday. Maybe my son and I will drive out to

watch it be dumped too. I just dried my goat up last week and now I

have no milk or source of milk! I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet.

 

It is ridiculous! I should be allowed to drink whatever milk I want to

drink.

 

Christy

(Logan, 10)

 

http://farmdreams- christy.blogspot .com/

 

 

--- On Sun, 10/18/09, jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net <jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>

wrote:

 

jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net <jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>

{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies>

Sunday, October 18, 2009, 2:37 PM

 

 

 

Has

anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia

where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human

consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and

bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can

imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well.

Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a

small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled

to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive

there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that

in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for

"real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information

about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really

be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits.

This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the

food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!

Anella

 

 

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Mary, It varies by state. It is illegal in Georgia, but not in some of our neighbor states. So many of us cross state lines once or twice a month to get out milk. Others just make friends with local farmers and buy milk that is labeled FOR PETS ONLY. I personally have very thirsty pets ;-)Anella-"Mary Ostrowski" <mary"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies >Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:49:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternRe: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

 

 

 

Girls,

I am afraid that I am not up do date on this . Are you saying that raw

milk is illegal now.

What's next ? Can you still have your own goats / cows and use your own

milk ?

Mary

 

 

 

Christine ONeal wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anella, thank you for posting about this. I had thought

about posting it as my milk was some of the milk that was confiscated

and is going to be dumped Monday. Maybe my son and I will drive out to

watch it be dumped too. I just dried my goat up last week and now I

have no milk or source of milk! I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet.

 

It is ridiculous! I should be allowed to drink whatever milk I want to

drink.

 

Christy

(Logan, 10)

 

http://farmdreams-christy.blogspot.com/

 

 

--- On Sun, 10/18/09, jarusso7 <jarusso7

wrote:

 

jarusso7 <jarusso7

{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies >

Sunday, October 18, 2009, 2:37 PM

 

 

 

Has

anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia

where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human

consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and

bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can

imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well.

Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a

small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled

to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive

there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that

in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for

"real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information

about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really

be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits.

This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the

food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!

Anella

 

 

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here are couple of other links i found about the raw milk - the top one is the local newspaper and the second one is law professors discussing it -- the third is time magazine's article regarding several fresh items that have been confiscatedhttp://www.onlineathens.com/stories/101709/new_505698081.shtmlhttp://lawprofessors.typepad.com/land_use/2009/10/more-on-local-farm-issues-georgia-seizes-raw-milk.htmlhttp://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1598525,00.htmlbobbie--- On Sun, 10/18/09, Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 wrote:Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42RE: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown"Bryan Schillington"

<herbal_remedies >Sunday, October 18, 2009, 2:06 PM

 

 

 

Here is an article I found that may answer some of your quetions.

http://m.timesrecor dnews.com/ news/2008/ jun/11/health- officials- crack-down- unpasteurized- milk/

My own opinion is that the government wants to control what we eat, does not want us to have the freedom to make our own choices, and is hell-bent on making us sick. How is it that a natural food like rawmilk (that is consumed all over the world on a daily basis without harm) is deemed illegal by the FDA, and yet highly-processed foods that are devoid of real nutrition can be sold legally and as "healthy" fare? Aspartame is deemed a GRAS food, while raw milk is treated like a poison? The world is upside down. The less healthy we are, the more apt we will be to be on pharmaceuticals.

Just my humble two cents worth that I tried to keep simple and short.

 

Lori"I feel ashamed that so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations, striving to be independent and self-reliant and free." - John Taylor Gatto

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Goat milk is totally the way to go. First of all it's not acid ash and secondly it's almost always A2. Very hard to find A2 cow's milk!!Anella-"mary johnson" <wolfpackk4"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies >Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:39:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternFw: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

 

 

I have 19 goats want some! I have 8 milk goats...looking for a dairy cow now! It is about governing our food supply!Real milk has alot of unnatural stuff..i can no longer drink store bought milk makes me sick..I drink goats milk much better for you and all natural!----- Forwarded Message ----"jarusso7" <jarusso7Herbal Remedies

<herbal remedies >Sun, October 18, 2009 11:37:11 AM{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

Has anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well. Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for "real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't

really be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits. This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!Anella

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I actually could have gotten on my soap box with this one, but thought I would spare the "choir" since I know most on here know the evil going on with food and other things. I have heard about that also (pruning the population), and I'd like to know where the money-hungry governments think they are going to get more taxes once a third of the population is gone!

It is evil times that we live in, that's for sure.

 

Lori"I feel ashamed that so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations, striving to be independent and self-reliant and free." - John Taylor Gatto

 

herbal remedies From: mtnwalker2bDate: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:37:36 -0400Re: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

You are more right on that you know hon. If you check thru the literature you will find statements from some well recognized names who claim that a certain percentage of the total worlds population needs to die, in order to maintain the status quo. I find this totally alarming, but it does seem to be the way of it. They are deliberately poisoning our food and water supplies. Yes pharmaceuticals are BIG business and they arent' about to let go of even a small piece of it without a fight. They claim they are to make us well, but the truth is they just make us sicker. Every single healthy food is being taken away from us in one way or another, one piece at a time. Raw Milk is just one of many- what about the so called raw almonds that are no longer raw but pasteurized and DEAD. The list is endless and mind boggling.zoeLori Smith wrote: Here is an article I found that may answer some of your quetions.http://m.timesrecordnews.com/news/2008/jun/11/health-officials-crack-down-unpasteurized-milk/My own opinion is that the government wants to control what we eat, does not want us to have the freedom to make our own choices, and is hell-bent on making us sick. How is it that a natural food like rawmilk (that is consumed all over the world on a daily basis without harm) is deemed illegal by the FDA, and yet highly-processed foods that are devoid of real nutrition can be sold legally and as "healthy" fare? Aspartame is deemed a GRAS food, while raw milk is treated like a poison? The world is upside down. The less healthy we are, the more apt we will be to be on pharmaceuticals.Just my humble two cents worth that I tried to keep simple and short. Lori"I feel ashamed that so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations, striving to be independent and self-reliant and free." - John Taylor Gatto

 

herbal remedies From: jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) netDate: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:37:11 +0000{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

Has anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well. Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for "real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits. This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!Anella

 

 

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Goat milk is totally the way to go. First of all it's not acid ash and

secondly it's almost always A2. Very hard to find A2 cow's milk!!

Anella

 

Yeah but there's so much fat in it.

 

Bill

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People do buy it underground, usually as pet food, or if they can find a farmer who will sell them milk. I used to be able to buy milk from an Amish farmer for "pet food", but he moved and I have not tried to approach anyone else (the Amish can be a bit difficult to approach, at times). When I was getting my milk I told NO ONE where I was getting it as the fellow I got it from had a wife and around 9 kids and I didn't want to be the cause of him losing his farm! The feds act like those who sell raw milk are the same as drug pushers!

 

Lori"I feel ashamed that so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations, striving to be independent and self-reliant and free." - John Taylor Gatto

 

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Amen Lori. I agree 100%. It is really hard to find raw milk in Arizona. Now it will be worse. Remember when alcohol was il legal and people were selling it underground? Might have to do it with raw milk. It's sad how the world is becoming.

 

Karen in AZ

 

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Here is an article I found that may answer some of your quetions.http://m.timesrecordnews.com/news/2008/jun/11/health-officials-crack-down-unpasteurized-milk/My own opinion is that the government wants to control what we eat, does not want us to have the freedom to make our own choices, and is hell-bent on making us sick. How is it that a natural food like rawmilk (that is consumed all over the world on a daily basis without harm) is deemed illegal by the FDA, and yet highly-processed foods that are devoid of real nutrition can be sold legally and as "healthy" fare? Aspartame is deemed a GRAS food, while raw milk is treated like a poison? The world is upside down. The less healthy we are, the more apt we will be to be on pharmaceuticals.Just my humble two cents worth that I tried to keep simple and short. Lori"I feel ashamed that so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations, striving to be independent and self-reliant and free." - John Taylor Gatto

 

herbal remedies From: jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) netDate: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:37:11 +0000{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

Has anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well. Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for "real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits. This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!Anella

 

 

 

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Raw milk for dummies: what is A2?--- On Sun, 10/18/09, jarusso7 <jarusso7 wrote:jarusso7 <jarusso7Re: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies >Sunday, October 18, 2009, 5:55 PM

 

 

Goat milk is totally the way to go. First of all it's not acid ash and secondly it's almost always A2. Very hard to find A2 cow's milk!!Anella-"mary johnson" <wolfpackk4 >"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies>Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:39:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternFw: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

 

 

I have 19 goats want some! I have 8 milk goats...looking for a dairy cow now! It is about governing our food supply!Real milk has alot of unnatural stuff..i can no longer drink store bought milk makes me sick..I drink goats milk much better for you and all natural!----- Forwarded Message ----"jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Herbal Remedies

<herbal remedies>Sun, October 18, 2009 11:37:11 AM{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

Has anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well. Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for "real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't

really be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits. This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!Anella

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Anella,

Boy has my back been turned on this one. Thanks for the data.

Mary

 

 

arusso7 wrote:

 

 

Mary,

 

It varies by state.  It is illegal in Georgia, but not in some of our

neighbor states.  So many of us cross state lines once or twice a month

to get out milk.  Others just make friends with local farmers and buy

milk that is labeled FOR PETS ONLY.   I personally have very thirsty

pets ;-)

Anella

 

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"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies >

Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:49:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

Re: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

 

 

 

Girls,

I am afraid that I am not up do date on this . Are you saying that raw

milk is illegal now.

What's next ? Can you still have your own goats / cows and use your own

milk ?

Mary

 

 

 

Christine ONeal wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anella, thank you for posting about this.  I had thought

about posting it as my milk was some of the milk that was confiscated

and is going to be dumped Monday.  Maybe my son and I will drive out to

watch it be dumped too.  I just dried my goat up last week and now I

have no milk or source of milk!  I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet.

 

It is ridiculous!  I should be allowed to drink whatever milk I want to

drink.

 

Christy

(Logan, 10)

 

http://farmdreams-christy.blogspot.com/

 

 

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jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net <jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>

{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies >

Sunday, October 18, 2009, 2:37 PM

 

 

 

Has

anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown?  I live in North Georgia

where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human

consumption.  Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and

bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As  you can

imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well. 

Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a

small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture.  It is scheduled

to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive

there to watch in silent protest.  However I have recently heard that

in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for

"real milk"  were raided last week.  Does anyone have more information

about this?  I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really

be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits. 

This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the

food supply.  Very scary.  I'm going to have to buy a goat!

Anella

 

 

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Christy,

This is stunning.

Mary

 

 

Christine ONeal wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mary,

 

Raw milk has been illegal for human consumption in many states for many

years. I have heard stories of people getting in trouble for giving

their own milk to family members who live in different households, not

sure if this is true. I have a few goats that I milk, but I make sure

only people in this house drink it. Right now, none of my girls are in

milk. I need to plan better in the future to make sure I always have

someone in milk.

 

Christy

(Logan, 10)

 

http://farmdreams-christy.blogspot.com/

 

 

--- On Sun, 10/18/09, Mary Ostrowski <mary (AT) academyofnaturalhealing (DOT) com>

wrote:

 

Mary Ostrowski <mary (AT) academyofnaturalhealing (DOT) com>

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herbal remedies

Sunday, October 18, 2009, 4:49 PM

 

 

 

Girls,

I am afraid that I am not up do date on this . Are you saying that raw

milk is illegal now.

What's next ? Can you still have your own goats / cows and use your own

milk ?

Mary

 

 

 

Christine ONeal wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anella, thank you for posting about this. I had thought

about posting it as my milk was some of the milk that was confiscated

and is going to be dumped Monday. Maybe my son and I will drive out to

watch it be dumped too. I just dried my goat up last week and now I

have no milk or source of milk! I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet.

 

It is ridiculous! I should be allowed to drink whatever milk I want to

drink.

 

Christy

(Logan, 10)

 

http://farmdreams-

christy.blogspot .com/

 

 

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net>

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jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net <jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>

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"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies>

Sunday, October 18, 2009, 2:37 PM

 

 

 

Has

anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia

where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human

consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and

bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can

imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well.

Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a

small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled

to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive

there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that

in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for

"real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information

about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't really

be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits.

This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the

food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!

Anella

 

 

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The fat can be skim off..I don't sell goat milk I have to it for only my family, I am allergic to cow's milk. Bill Cunningham <billcu1herbal remedies Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 5:34:13 PMRe: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

 

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Re: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

Goat milk is totally the way to go. First of all it's not acid ash and

secondly it's almost always A2. Very hard to find A2 cow's milk!!

Anella

 

Yeah but there's so much fat in it.

 

Bill

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What is A2?

 

I do find cheese made with raw milk here at a grocery store. I have bought it a few times and its good. I was suprised when I saw it. This is not a specialty or import store either. Raw milk I have not seen, at least I don;t think so. I do tend to miss things right in front of me.

 

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That is just sad and those inspectors probably did not even know the benefits of raw milk or raw veggies, raw fruit, raw water, etc. What are they trying to do to us? OR on the other hand, they know how beneficial the raw milk is and they want it for themselves.

 

Robert--- On Sun, 10/18/09, Bobbie Smith <bobbiedsmith wrote:

Bobbie Smith <bobbiedsmithRE: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdownherbal remedies Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 4:38 PM

 

 

 

 

 

one more:this is an actual email from the man himself -- as to what happened and what is happening mondayhttp://www.facebook.es/note.php?note_id=172919931227 & ref=mfbobbie

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Milk, whether raw or not, is either A2 or A1. It refers to the type of protein in the milk. Most of the milk sold in the US contains more beta-casein A1, or only

A1 type. There are a few private farms that have worked very hard to get and keep A2 cows, but those are very rare. There is a great (but long) you tube video explaining the health consequences of drinking A1 milk. hth,Anella-"Don Allen" <hooty304"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies >Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:16:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternRe: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

 

 

Raw milk for dummies: what is A2?--- On Sun, 10/18/09, jarusso7 <jarusso7 wrote:jarusso7 <jarusso7Re: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies >Sunday, October 18, 2009, 5:55 PM

 

 

Goat milk is totally the way to go. First of all it's not acid ash and secondly it's almost always A2. Very hard to find A2 cow's milk!!Anella-"mary johnson" <wolfpackk4 >"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies>Sunday, October 18, 2009 4:39:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternFw: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

 

 

I have 19 goats want some! I have 8 milk goats...looking for a dairy cow now! It is about governing our food supply!Real milk has alot of unnatural stuff..i can no longer drink store bought milk makes me sick..I drink goats milk much better for you and all natural!----- Forwarded Message ----"jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <jarusso7 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>Herbal Remedies

<herbal remedies>Sun, October 18, 2009 11:37:11 AM{Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdown

 

 

Has anyone heard about the raw milk crackdown? I live in North Georgia where raw milk is only sold as pet milk, in other words, not for human consumption. Many of us drive to SC (where raw milk is legal) and bring it back to GA for our friends and neighbors etc. As you can imagine there are many raw milk co-ops that have formed as well. Friday morning in Athens GA, a large load of raw milk was taken from a small farmer's market by the GA Dept. of agriculture. It is scheduled to be dumped on Monday morning and many of us are planning to drive there to watch in silent protest. However I have recently heard that in Texas, all of the raw milk farms listed on -line as a source for "real milk" were raided last week. Does anyone have more information about this? I can't imagine this is about the money, we can't

really be making that big of a dent in the local commercial dairy profits. This has to be about the bigger picture of government regulation of the food supply. Very scary. I'm going to have to buy a goat!Anella

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It is likely they do not want it for themselves, but are mindlessly 'just following orders' to protect the 'stupid' public from itself...because we need to be nanny - ed....d--- On Sun, 10/18/09, Robert Nodge <misguided_mortal_1970 wrote:Robert Nodge <misguided_mortal_1970RE: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdownherbal remedies Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 11:45 PM

 

 

That is just sad and those inspectors probably did not even know the benefits of raw milk or raw veggies, raw fruit, raw water, etc. What are they trying to do to us? OR on the other hand, they know how beneficial the raw milk is and they want it for themselves.

 

Robert--- On Sun, 10/18/09, Bobbie Smith <bobbiedsmith@ > wrote:

Bobbie Smith <bobbiedsmith@ >RE: {Herbal Remedies} Raw Milk crackdownherbal remediesSunday, October 18, 2009, 4:38 PM

 

 

 

 

 

one more:this is an actual email from the man himself -- as to what happened and what is happening mondayhttp://www.facebook .es/note. php?note_ id=172919931227 & ref=mfbobbie

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This did not come through when I tried to go there~do you have anther way to access this site?

 

Lori"I feel ashamed that so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations, striving to be independent and self-reliant and free." - John Taylor Gatto

 

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Lori, I think you have may to have a facebook account and be logged in,for that site to work.  It did say at the bottom of the note to feel free to forward, so I have copied and pasted it below for you. Again this is from bobbie's link to here:

http://www.facebook.es/note.php?note_id=172919931227 & ref=mfKristine~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

ALERT: LEGAL Raw Milk from SC Seized in GA (tag someone and pass along...spread the word)

 El vie a las 7:13

 

" Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. " - C.S. Lewis

 

 

 

Following is a message from the Athens Market Manager explaining what happened.

 

Hello! It's late and I'm exhausted, but I wanted you all to know what

happened today at our Athens Locally Grown (www.locallygrown.net)

pickup.

 

When we arrived, we were greeted by three badged inspectors from the

Georgia Department of Agriculture who were there waiting for us. " We

read about you on the Internet, " they told me.

 

I explained to them what Athens Locally Grown is, how we work,

discussed that I've been diligent to make sure all of the growers who

sell through the market have the appropriate licenses when needed, and

so forth. The inspectors were very friendly during this time and

everything that followed — I do not fault them in any way.

 

They talked to the growers as they arrived. They were particularly

interested in the meat, and indeed found all of that to be legal.

When my wife arrived with the raw milk ordered by ALG members directly

from the Cows R Us dairy in South Carolina (A USDA Grade A dairy fully

licensed to sell raw milk), the inspectors entered our truck and began

opening our coolers.

 

To be clear, I did not give them permission to enter or search my

truck, and they did not have a warrant to do so. When they discovered

the coolers to be full of clearly labeled raw milk, they immediately

began calling their supervisors. They chain of calls made their way up

to Peggy Gates, the director of the Dairy Division of the Consumer

Protection Division of the State Department of Agriculture. She

immediately gave orders to seize the entire load of milk.

 

I did try to explain to her all of the very strict rules that we follow

to keep things legal. She was very gruff with me and was not at ll

interested in hearing what we do. " I know exactly what you're doing "

she told me. She told me what we were doing is a Federal offense (it is

not, and of course she has no jurisdiction over Federal statute). In

the end she declared all 100 gallons an " imminent health hazard " and

ordered it seized.

 

Oddly enough, the inspectors could not seize it themselves, as they

only had several small sedans. So, it was impounded in place on my

truck, and I was ordered not to disturb the milk in any way, or else I

" would be guilty of a felony " .

 

The inspectors and director Peggy Gates herself personally will be

coming to my house Monday morning to witness my " destruction " of the

milk. I am hoping they will not be also coming to arrest me, but they

do have that power.

 

Let me reiterate that I believe we have not violated any laws

whatsoever. What we are doing is also being done by thousands of groups

and individuals throughout the country, and I have been extremely

careful that we are doing what has legal precedent. Namely:

You order via the website directly from the dairy

The dairy receives the orders without any intervention from me. They have a name for every carton of milk

We pick up, on your behalf, exactly the cartons that have been pre-ordered. We have a name for every carton of milk

You meet us at the pickup location and get your milk.

We do not store it beyond the pre-established pickup time.

 

Given those steps that are followed to the letter (and those of you who

ask me every single week " can't you just bring an extra gallon or two

with you? " can attest that they are), I do not believe that the Georgia

Department of Agriculture has any authority over those cartons of milk.

We are not violating federal law. We are not violating state law.

 

So where do we stand? Right now, raw milk can no longer be offered

through Athens Locally Grown. I have 110 gallons of milk sitting on my

truck until Monday morning, when a team of officials will be coming to

my house to witness its destruction (and hopefully nothing more). Until

Peggy Gates changes her mind (which seems unlikely), that is that. It

may well take a court order to change things. I know our membership

includes a fair number of lawyers, and if any of you wish to help in

this, please let me know. I really don't know where to even begin.

 

I've taken a big financial hit today too, so please forgive our putting

out a tip jar next week. I paid the dairy $440 for the milk on the

customers' behalf (and yes, I'm a customer too. I've got two gallons of

my own sitting on the truck) and since the market operates on a break

even basis (during the best of times), I don't have that sitting in the

bank.

 

I'll keep you all informed. I'm surprised it took so long for them to

harass us, and I'm also surprised by how unsympathetic they turned out

to be. And by " they " , I really mean director Peggy Gates, who issued

the order. Her website address is

http://agr.georgia.gov/00/article/0,2086,38902732_0_40971722,00.html

and her office's phone number is (404) 656-3625. Please don't harass

her, but it may help if they do hear your stories, why you order raw

milk, and why you are a member of Athens Locally Grown.

 

I know many of you were relying on your milk delivery today, especially

since our truck's engine problems kept us from bringing a full load

last week. I'm sorry. Hopefully something will happen soon to make them

loosen their grip and allow us to once again bring your milk that you

ordered directly from the dairy to you.

 

Please feel free to forward this email to anyone you see fit.

-ericOn Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:51 AM, Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 wrote:

 

 

This did not come through when I tried to go there~do you have anther way to access this site?

 

Lori " I feel ashamed that so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations, striving to be independent and self-reliant and free. " - John Taylor Gatto

   

 

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