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I have a question that I thought you all could help with. I know someone who lost 120 pounds in the last 5 months. I asked her how she did it and she said B12 shots and hormone HCG. That makes NO sense to me at all. Does anyone here have any insight?TIA,Anella

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This from Wikipedia

Weight loss

 

A controversial usage of hCG is as an adjunct to the British

endocrinologist Dr. A.T.W. Simeons' ultra-low-calorie weight-loss

diet.[7] Simeons, while studying pregnant women in India on a

calorie-deficient diet, and “fat boys” with pituitary problems treated

with low-dose hCG, discovered that both lost fat rather than lean

(muscle) tissue. He reasoned that hCG must be programming the

hypothalamus to do this in the former cases in order to protect the

developing fœtus, and proceeded to use low-dose daily hCG injections

(125 mg) in combination with a customized ultra-low-calorie (500

cal/day, high-protein, low-carbohydrate/fat) diet to help obese adults

lose dramatic amounts of adipose tissue without loss of lean tissue, at

a Salvator Mundi International Hospital in Rome, Italy, clinic mainly

for celebrities. After Simeons’ mysterious death, the diet started to

spread to specialized centers and via popularization by such as the

controversial popular author Kevin Trudeau (search for hCG in that

article for more details).

 

The controversy proceeds from warnings by the Journal of the American

Medical Association[8] and the American Journal of Clinical

Nutrition[9] that hCG is not safe,[8] indeed ineffective, as a

weight-loss aid[10] on its own; yet its usage as cited above to

increase testosterone production contradicts this assertion, since much

late-life male obesity is associated with estrogen dominance and

deficient testosterone in the mis-named, so-called andropause.[citation

needed] Furthermore, in the Simeons protocol, it is, as in any diet,

the ultra-low-calorie component (caloric deficit) that results in

weight loss, if the protocol is followed strictly.[citation needed]

hCG’s role is supposedly to trigger the hypothalamic lean-protection

mechanisms Simeons thought he saw, thus promoting mobilization and

consumption ofabnormal, excessive adipose deposits, while protecting

normal adipose and lean tissue from being consumed, with the assumption

that these protective hypothalamic mechanisms exist in males as well as

females, to be acted upon by hCG.[citation needed]

 

 

 

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have a question that I thought you all could help with.  I know someone

who lost 120 pounds in the last 5 months.  I asked her how she did it

and she said B12 shots and hormone HCG. 

That makes NO sense to me at

all.  Does anyone here have any insight?

TIA,

Anella

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The HCG diet is the one outlined in Kevin Trudeau's book *The weight Loss Cure

THEY don't want you to know about*. Apparently it really WORKS!

 

In the book, it outlines the diet. I was a little leary of it after reading

through it. The first 2 days, all you do is take the HCG shot (this is the

hormone that pregnant women create). After the first 2 days, you change your

diet greatly. Your first 2 meals are tea and tea (you have your choice of a few

certain types of tea), then you eat an ATKIN's Style dinner. Of course, it's

supposed to be organically raised, hormone-free, but still a lot of meat. This

goes on for weeks...everyday taking this shot of HCG hormone.

 

I really like the idea of it working, but it scares me to be taking a hormone

that my body isn't naturally creating on it's own. I don't think it's what God

(Nature, The Universe, you fill it in) intended.

 

Ingrid

 

herbal remedies , " jarusso7 " <jarusso7 wrote:

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> I have a question that I thought you all could help with. I know someone who

lost 120 pounds in the last 5 months. I asked her how she did it and she said

B12 shots and hormone HCG .

> That makes NO sense to me at all . Does anyone here have any insight?

> TIA,

> Anella

>

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My understanding is that if you take a hormone, whether natural or not, rather than something that'll stimulate your body to produce more of it's own, that'll your body will gradually stop making it on it's own since another source is now available... Am I mistaken?What happens when you reach your target weight?Do you take "breaks"?

herbal remedies From: ninimom24Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:07:17 +0000{Herbal Remedies} Re: my wierdo "friend"

 

 

 

 

The HCG diet is the one outlined in Kevin Trudeau's book *The weight Loss Cure THEY don't want you to know about*. Apparently it really WORKS!

 

In the book, it outlines the diet. I was a little leary of it after reading through it. The first 2 days, all you do is take the HCG shot (this is the hormone that pregnant women create). After the first 2 days, you change your diet greatly. Your first 2 meals are tea and tea (you have your choice of a few certain types of tea), then you eat an ATKIN's Style dinner. Of course, it's supposed to be organically raised, hormone-free, but still a lot of meat. This goes on for weeks...everyday taking this shot of HCG hormone.

 

I really like the idea of it working, but it scares me to be taking a hormone that my body isn't naturally creating on it's own. I don't think it's what God (Nature, The Universe, you fill it in) intended.

 

Ingrid

 

herbal remedies , "jarusso7" <jarusso7 wrote:

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> I have a question that I thought you all could help with. I know someone who lost 120 pounds in the last 5 months. I asked her how she did it and she said B12 shots and hormone HCG .

> That makes NO sense to me at all . Does anyone here have any insight?

> TIA,

> Anella

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I agree with you about the HCG shots. I also don't agree with the Atkins diet as it is too high in protein. Protein is good but in the proper balance with the other nutrients.--Glenda--- On Wed, 9/16/09, ninimom24 <ninimom24 wrote:ninimom24 <ninimom24{Herbal Remedies} Re: my wierdo "friend"herbal remedies Received: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:07 PM

 

 

The HCG diet is the one outlined in Kevin Trudeau's book *The weight Loss Cure THEY don't want you to know about*. Apparently it really WORKS!

 

In the book, it outlines the diet. I was a little leary of it after reading through it. The first 2 days, all you do is take the HCG shot (this is the hormone that pregnant women create). After the first 2 days, you change your diet greatly. Your first 2 meals are tea and tea (you have your choice of a few certain types of tea), then you eat an ATKIN's Style dinner. Of course, it's supposed to be organically raised, hormone-free, but still a lot of meat. This goes on for weeks...everyday taking this shot of HCG hormone.

 

I really like the idea of it working, but it scares me to be taking a hormone that my body isn't naturally creating on it's own. I don't think it's what God (Nature, The Universe, you fill it in) intended.

 

Ingrid

 

herbal remedies, "jarusso7@.. ." <jarusso7@.. .> wrote:

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> I have a question that I thought you all could help with. I know someone who lost 120 pounds in the last 5 months. I asked her how she did it and she said B12 shots and hormone HCG .

> That makes NO sense to me at all . Does anyone here have any insight?

> TIA,

> Anella

>

 

 

 

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But there's got to be downside to a woman who is not pregnant infusing her system with a pregnancy hormone. This can't really be safe, right?-"Glenda Nagy" <keeper_of_the_home"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies >Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:14:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternRe: {Herbal Remedies} Re: my wierdo "friend"

 

 

 

 

I agree with you about the HCG shots. I also don't agree with the Atkins diet as it is too high in protein. Protein is good but in the proper balance with the other nutrients.--Glenda--- On Wed, 9/16/09, ninimom24 <ninimom24 wrote:ninimom24 <ninimom24{Herbal Remedies} Re: my wierdo "friend"herbal remedies Received: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:07 PM

 

 

The HCG diet is the one outlined in Kevin Trudeau's book *The weight Loss Cure THEY don't want you to know about*. Apparently it really WORKS!

 

In the book, it outlines the diet. I was a little leary of it after reading through it. The first 2 days, all you do is take the HCG shot (this is the hormone that pregnant women create). After the first 2 days, you change your diet greatly. Your first 2 meals are tea and tea (you have your choice of a few certain types of tea), then you eat an ATKIN's Style dinner. Of course, it's supposed to be organically raised, hormone-free, but still a lot of meat. This goes on for weeks...everyday taking this shot of HCG hormone.

 

I really like the idea of it working, but it scares me to be taking a hormone that my body isn't naturally creating on it's own. I don't think it's what God (Nature, The Universe, you fill it in) intended.

 

Ingrid

 

herbal remedies, "jarusso7@.. ." <jarusso7@.. .> wrote:

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> I have a question that I thought you all could help with. I know someone who lost 120 pounds in the last 5 months. I asked her how she did it and she said B12 shots and hormone HCG .

> That makes NO sense to me at all . Does anyone here have any insight?

> TIA,

> Anella

>

 

 

 

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Not only that, but they did experimenting with hCG in vaxes and use it

to cause infertility. Your body sees that as a foreign intruder and

attacks hCG, and can lead to miscarriages. I wouldn't mess with

hormones at all. Just support and cleanse. Eat right. Trust your

body.

Ramona

 

Quoting Ranie Jordan <raniejordan:

 

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> My understanding is that if you take a hormone, whether natural or

> not, rather than something that'll stimulate your body to produce

> more of it's own, that'll your body will gradually stop making it on

> it's own since another source is now available... Am I mistaken?

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> What happens when you reach your target weight?

> Do you take " breaks " ?

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The HCG diet is the one outlined in Kevin

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> In the book, it outlines the diet. I was a little leary of it after

> reading through it. The first 2 days, all you do is take the HCG

> shot (this is the hormone that pregnant women create). After the

> first 2 days, you change your diet greatly. Your first 2 meals are

> tea and tea (you have your choice of a few certain types of tea),

> then you eat an ATKIN's Style dinner. Of course, it's supposed to

> be organically raised, hormone-free, but still a lot of meat. This

> goes on for weeks...everyday taking this shot of HCG hormone.

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> I really like the idea of it working, but it scares me to be taking

> a hormone that my body isn't naturally creating on it's own. I

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I completely agree. That's what I've understood too. That's why I said I'm quite leary of it.After I read through the protocol of the diet, I stopped reading the book. I was no longer interested at that point. I think you continue the diet until you reach your target weight and then you eat a modified diet. Of course it's not the typical American diet. You have certain guidelines...only organic, no chemicals, etc. But within those numerous guidelines, you eat whatever you want. There is a protocol (very extreme IMO) for if your weight starts to increase again.I re-read the diet (I'm getting ready to sell the book, so it's still on my shelf). I was wrong when I said only tea for the first 2 meals. It's tea for the first meal and then an Atkin's-like diet with tea for lunch and

dinner. Of course, the Atkin's part is modified even from what Dr. Atkins outlined.Ingrid"Be one more blind follower of the blind, and you will have the oblivion you desire."Bliss Carman1861-1929, Poet--- On Wed, 9/16/09, Ranie Jordan <raniejordan wrote:Ranie Jordan <raniejordanRE: {Herbal Remedies} Re: my wierdo "friend"herbal_remedies Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:54 PM

 

 

 

My understanding is that if you take a hormone, whether natural or not, rather than something that'll stimulate your body to produce more of it's own, that'll your body will gradually stop making it on it's own since another source is now available... Am I mistaken?What happens when you reach your target weight?Do you take "breaks"?

herbal remediesninimom24 Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:07:17 +0000{Herbal Remedies} Re: my wierdo "friend"

 

 

 

 

The HCG diet is the one outlined in Kevin Trudeau's book *The weight Loss Cure THEY don't want you to know about*. Apparently it really WORKS!

 

In the book, it outlines the diet. I was a little leary of it after reading through it. The first 2 days, all you do is take the HCG shot (this is the hormone that pregnant women create). After the first 2 days, you change your diet greatly. Your first 2 meals are tea and tea (you have your choice of a few certain types of tea), then you eat an ATKIN's Style dinner. Of course, it's supposed to be organically raised, hormone-free, but still a lot of meat. This goes on for weeks...everyday taking this shot of HCG hormone.

 

I really like the idea of it working, but it scares me to be taking a hormone that my body isn't naturally creating on it's own. I don't think it's what God (Nature, The Universe, you fill it in) intended.

 

Ingrid

 

herbal remedies, "jarusso7@.. ." <jarusso7@.. .> wrote:

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> I have a question that I thought you all could help with. I know someone who lost 120 pounds in the last 5 months. I asked her how she did it and she said B12 shots and hormone HCG .

> That makes NO sense to me at all . Does anyone here have any insight?

> TIA,

> Anella

>

 

 

 

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Exactly...We all know what happens when women (or men) infuse their bodies with artificial hormones, so why would this be any different?Ingrid"Be one more blind follower of the blind, and you will have the oblivion you desire."Bliss Carman1861-1929, Poet--- On

Thu, 9/17/09, jarusso7 <jarusso7 wrote:jarusso7 <jarusso7Re: {Herbal Remedies} Re: my wierdo "friend""Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies >Thursday, September 17, 2009, 8:49 AM

 

 

But there's got to be downside to a woman who is not pregnant infusing her system with a pregnancy hormone. This can't really be safe, right?-"Glenda Nagy" <keeper_of_the_ home (AT) (DOT) ca>"Herbal Remedies" <herbal remedies>Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:14:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternRe: {Herbal Remedies} Re: my wierdo "friend"

 

 

 

 

I agree with you about the HCG shots. I also don't agree with the Atkins diet as it is too high in protein. Protein is good but in the proper balance with the other nutrients.-- Glenda--- On Wed, 9/16/09, ninimom24 <ninimom24 > wrote:ninimom24 <ninimom24 >{Herbal Remedies} Re: my wierdo "friend"herbal remediesReceived: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:07 PM

 

 

The HCG diet is the one outlined in Kevin Trudeau's book *The weight Loss Cure THEY don't want you to know about*. Apparently it really WORKS!

 

In the book, it outlines the diet. I was a little leary of it after reading through it. The first 2 days, all you do is take the HCG shot (this is the hormone that pregnant women create). After the first 2 days, you change your diet greatly. Your first 2 meals are tea and tea (you have your choice of a few certain types of tea), then you eat an ATKIN's Style dinner. Of course, it's supposed to be organically raised, hormone-free, but still a lot of meat. This goes on for weeks...everyday taking this shot of HCG hormone.

 

I really like the idea of it working, but it scares me to be taking a hormone that my body isn't naturally creating on it's own. I don't think it's what God (Nature, The Universe, you fill it in) intended.

 

Ingrid

 

herbal remedies, "jarusso7@.. ." <jarusso7@.. .> wrote:

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> I have a question that I thought you all could help with. I know someone who lost 120 pounds in the last 5 months. I asked her how she did it and she said B12 shots and hormone HCG .

> That makes NO sense to me at all . Does anyone here have any insight?

> TIA,

> Anella

>

 

 

 

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I would so totally stay away from anything requiring shots of hormone.