Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Eti, Possible cold below, heat above, liver cold, stomach hot, ht/kd disharmony w/liver depression qi stagnation; Wu Mei Wan is appropriate for that pattern and is the formula of choice for enduring diarrhea according to the SHL. Joseph Garner >>>Hello All, ' I would love some help with a case. A male, 38, suffers from depression. he has had diarrhea for the past 6 months and on-off for many years. he is on 90 mg of remeron (he tried to get off the med. in January and had a severe reaction, anxiety got much worse, insomnia, TMJ), he has been on antidepressants for about 5 years. smokes pot regularly (will stop). When I saw him in the past he had anxiety and now his condition shifted to depression. His pulse is deep, wiry and tense, ki weak, upper jiao pulses are weak also. His tongue is pink, normal size, peeled tender sides, thin white coat on the front and thicker in the back, some horizontal cracks in the middle of the tongue. red tip. He is depressed, lacking in motivation. He describes it as feeling blah all the time. His stools are soft and loose (not watery), frequent, sometimes twice an hour, large amounts, not smelly, no urgency, no cramping. The stool color is yellow. He has hemmoroids. His weight is stable, his appetite is good. he has gas, no odor (he says he doesnt notice an odor) His feet are cold. he has a constant ringing in the ears. I know there is for sure liver qi depression, otherwise I am having a diagnostic block... Any suggestions herbally?? Eti<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 90 mg of remeron >>Often causes diarrhea alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Thank you. I will give it to him ASAP Etiacugrpaz wrote: Eti,Possible cold below, heat above, liver cold, stomach hot, ht/kd disharmony w/liver depression qi stagnation; Wu Mei Wan is appropriate for that pattern and is the formula of choice for enduring diarrhea according to the SHL.Joseph Garner>>>Hello All, 'I would love some help with a case. A male, 38, suffers from depression. he has had diarrhea for the past 6 months and on-off for many years. he is on 90 mg of remeron (he tried to get off the med. in January and had a severe reaction, anxiety got much worse, insomnia, TMJ), he has been on antidepressants for about 5 years. smokes pot regularly (will stop). When I saw him in the past he had anxiety and now his condition shifted to depression. His pulse is deep, wiry and tense, ki weak, upper jiao pulses are weak also. His tongue is pink, normal size, peeled tender sides, thin white coat on the front and thicker in the back, some horizontal cracks in the middle of the tongue. red tip. He is depressed, lacking in motivation. He describes it as feeling blah all the time. His stools are soft and loose (not watery), frequent, sometimes twice an hour, large amounts, not smelly, no urgency, no cramping. The stool color is yellow. He has hemmoroids.His weight is stable, his appetite is good. he has gas, no odor (he says he doesnt notice an odor) His feet are cold. he has a constant ringing in the ears.I know there is for sure liver qi depression, otherwise I am having a diagnostic block... Any suggestions herbally??Eti<<< Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 , Eti Domb <etidomb> wrote: > Thank you. I will give it to him ASAP > Eti > > acugrpaz@a... wrote: > Eti, > Possible cold below, heat above, liver cold, stomach hot, ht/kd disharmony w/liver depression qi stagnation; Wu Mei Wan is appropriate for that pattern and is the formula of choice for enduring diarrhea according to the SHL. > Joseph Garner My first thought was of Ban Xia Xie Xin Tang for its usefulness as a base formula in cold/hot compexes and disruption of the qi mechanism. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 Simon, I tried that earlier this year, it didnt work... I will give wu mai wan a shot. I modified it (ommited the ren shen, huang bai and fu zi and added huang qin, , mu xiang,bai shao and lian zi) EtiSimon King <dallasking wrote: , Eti Domb <etidomb> wrote:> Thank you. I will give it to him ASAP> Eti> > acugrpaz@a... wrote:> Eti,> Possible cold below, heat above, liver cold, stomach hot, ht/kd disharmony w/liver depression qi stagnation; Wu Mei Wan is appropriate for that pattern and is the formula of choice for enduring diarrhea according to the SHL.> Joseph GarnerMy first thought was of Ban Xia Xie Xin Tang for its usefulness as a base formula in cold/hot compexes and disruption of the qi mechanism.SimonChinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hi, I'm a bit of a lurker here and although I am a big believer in Herbal Remedies my actions are more about what we don't do than what we do do, lol. We don't go to the dr much and we don't vaccinate among other things. When one of the children do get sick we struggle through it, using the basics. I would really like to know more, but with limited access to herbs I have found that a big roadblock (I am in Australia so US websites are only for drooling over). Anyway I have a question. I was wondering if someone can give me some ideas for getting rid of diarrhea. I have had it for over 24 hrs now and as I am 21 weeks pregnant it has become a concern to me. I don't want to go to the dr if I don't need to and after reading all the wonderful advice on this list I thought someone might have a preferable herbal alternative. Many Blessings, Tracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Doc's Intestinal Detox formula would be a safe alternative to help handle diarrhea. One teaspoon of this a few time will help with this. Tracy wrote: Hi, I'm a bit of a lurker here and although I am a big believer in Herbal Remedies my actions are more about what we don't do than what we do do, lol. We don't go to the dr much and we don't vaccinate among other things. When one of the children do get sick we struggle through it, using the basics. I would really like to know more, but with limited access to herbs I have found that a big roadblock (I am in Australia so US websites are only for drooling over). Anyway I have a question. I was wondering if someone can give me some ideas for getting rid of diarrhea. I have had it for over 24 hrs now and as I am 21 weeks pregnant it has become a concern to me. I don't want to go to the dr if I don't need to and after reading all the wonderful advice on this list I thought someone might have a preferable herbal alternative. Many Blessings, Tracy Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Try ginger and/or peppermint tea. Can you tell us any other symptoms you might have? - " Tracy " <manyhomeblessings <herbal remedies > Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:59 PM {Herbal Remedies} Diarrhea > Hi, > I'm a bit of a lurker here and although I am a big believer in Herbal > Remedies my actions are more about what we don't do than what we do do, > lol. We don't go to the dr much and we don't vaccinate among other > things. When one of the children do get sick we struggle through it, > using the basics. I would really like to know more, but with limited > access to herbs I have found that a big roadblock (I am in Australia so US > websites are only for drooling over). > Anyway I have a question. I was wondering if someone can give me some > ideas for getting rid of diarrhea. I have had it for over 24 hrs now and > as I am 21 weeks pregnant it has become a concern to me. I don't want to > go to the dr if I don't need to and after reading all the wonderful advice > on this list I thought someone might have a preferable herbal alternative. > Many Blessings, > Tracy > > > > --- > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and > to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long > as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from > list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington! Groups Links > > > -- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.10/1995 - Release 03/11/09 08:28:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 <<<I would really like to know more, but with limited access to herbs I have found that a big roadblock (I am in Australia so US websites are only for drooling over). Anyway I have a question. I was wondering if someone can give me some ideas for getting rid of diarrhea. I have had it for over 24 hrs now and as I am 21 weeks pregnant it has become a concern to me>>> Hi Tracey, I am in Australia too. yes, there are a lot of great U.S. website, but plenty in Australia too. I am growing my own herbs though- I buy the seeds from Eden seeds online. As for diarrhea, I would say it depends on what is causing it. Sometimes its the body trying to get rid of something- a toxin. Other times its an infection (and the diarrhea is also the way the body is trying to get rid of the infection). And other times its more complicated and related to distressed intestines due to long term issues. I would suggest bananas and yoghurt, and see if that has any effect. My husband has chronic diarrhea and what helps him is a mixture of marshmallow, licorice and slippery elm powders, as well as lots of fermented foods like kefir to add in the healthy probiotics. If its an infection, you may need something antibacterial/viral to kill it off...I will leave that to someone else because I am not sure what is safe for pregnancy off the top of my head. Meanwhile, your body will probably fix itself in a couple of days! Peela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Have you tried taking charcoal? You can use the capsules but take plenty of water. For best results, open up a couple of capsules and make a slurry in water (just mix) and drink down. Yes, it is nasty, but wash down with more water. I know they are expensive, but eat some blackberries as these help (roots work best, but berries have some benefit). Make a thin porridge from oatmeal as oatmeal seems to help. Use the old fashioned kind. The starch seems to coat stomach and is soothing. Grate some apple with a cheese grater, let it brown as this releases the pectin, and eat slowly. Hope these ideas help. These are some of the things we have done. Lori "I feel ashamed that so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations, striving to be independent and self-reliant and free." - John Taylor Gatto herbal remedies From: manyhomeblessingsDate: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:59:26 +0000{Herbal Remedies} Diarrhea Hi,I'm a bit of a lurker here and although I am a big believer in Herbal Remedies my actions are more about what we don't do than what we do do, lol. We don't go to the dr much and we don't vaccinate among other things. When one of the children do get sick we struggle through it, using the basics. I would really like to know more, but with limited access to herbs I have found that a big roadblock (I am in Australia so US websites are only for drooling over). Anyway I have a question. I was wondering if someone can give me some ideas for getting rid of diarrhea. I have had it for over 24 hrs now and as I am 21 weeks pregnant it has become a concern to me. I don't want to go to the dr if I don't need to and after reading all the wonderful advice on this list I thought someone might have a preferable herbal alternative.Many Blessings,Tracy Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Make sure you are drinking plenty of water so you don't get dehydrated.Trina --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Susan Shobbrook <peela wrote: Susan Shobbrook <peela{Herbal Remedies} Re:Diarrheaherbal remedies Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 5:45 PM <<<I would really like to know more, but with limited access to herbs I have found that a big roadblock (I am in Australia so US websites are only for drooling over).Anyway I have a question. I was wondering if someone can give me some ideas for getting rid of diarrhea. I have had it for over 24 hrs now and as I am 21 weeks pregnant it has become a concern to me>>>Hi Tracey, I am in Australia too. yes, there are a lot of great U.S. website, but plenty in Australia too. I am growing my own herbs though- I buy the seeds from Eden seeds online.As for diarrhea, I would say it depends on what is causing it. Sometimes its the body trying to get rid of something- a toxin. Other times its an infection (and the diarrhea is also the way the body is trying to get rid of the infection). And other times its more complicated and related to distressed intestines due to long term issues. I would suggest bananas and yoghurt, and see if that has any effect. My husband has chronic diarrhea and what helps him is a mixture of marshmallow, licorice and slippery elm powders, as well as lots of fermented foods like kefir to add in the healthy probiotics. If its an infection, you may need something antibacterial/ viral to kill it off...I will leave that to someone else because I am not sure what is safe for pregnancy off the top of my head. Meanwhile, your body will probably fix itself in a couple of days!Peela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 In addition to whats been mentioned, Coconut maccaroons often help relieve diarrhea. Bananas, baked potatoe with nothing on it, peppermint tea, cooked barley, adding small amount of nutmeg to tea, chamomile tea, and rice also help. Robert --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42 wrote: Lori Smith <homeschoolmom42RE: {Herbal Remedies} Diarrhea"Bryan Schillington" <herbal_remedies >Friday, March 13, 2009, 12:07 AM Have you tried taking charcoal? You can use the capsules but take plenty of water. For best results, open up a couple of capsules and make a slurry in water (just mix) and drink down. Yes, it is nasty, but wash down with more water.I know they are expensive, but eat some blackberries as these help (roots work best, but berries have some benefit). Make a thin porridge from oatmeal as oatmeal seems to help. Use the old fashioned kind. The starch seems to coat stomach and is soothing.Grate some apple with a cheese grater, let it brown as this releases the pectin, and eat slowly.Hope these ideas help. These are some of the things we have done. Lori"I feel ashamed that so many of us cannot imagine a better way to do things than locking children up all day in cells instead of letting them grow up knowing their families, mingling with the world, assuming real obligations, striving to be independent and self-reliant and free." - John Taylor Gatto herbal remedies From: manyhomeblessingsDate: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:59:26 +0000{Herbal Remedies} Diarrhea Hi,I'm a bit of a lurker here and although I am a big believer in Herbal Remedies my actions are more about what we don't do than what we do do, lol. We don't go to the dr much and we don't vaccinate among other things. When one of the children do get sick we struggle through it, using the basics. I would really like to know more, but with limited access to herbs I have found that a big roadblock (I am in Australia so US websites are only for drooling over). Anyway I have a question. I was wondering if someone can give me some ideas for getting rid of diarrhea. I have had it for over 24 hrs now and as I am 21 weeks pregnant it has become a concern to me. I don't want to go to the dr if I don't need to and after reading all the wonderful advice on this list I thought someone might have a preferable herbal alternative.Many Blessings,Tracy Windows Liveâ„¢ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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