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I think that our cleanliness and lifestyle of eating, etc. has alot to do

with it, it was the soilders dying, till the end of the war when things got

so bad for the folks at home too.Butch it is very unusual for us to have

different opinions but I wouldn`t trust anything the UN has to say not one

cotton pickin word. {:>

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" Butch Owen " <butchbsi

 

Sunday, December 05, 2004 8:14 AM

Vaccinations

 

 

>

>

> Hi y'all,

>

> Not an area in which I have knowledge .. Chris, Dale, Markey, Jill and

> likely many others do have a good grasp of this. But .. can we not

> say that Small Pox has been eliminated in the USA as a result of a

> long term program of vaccination? And can we not read in history that

> Small Pox was as bigger killer during the Civil War, Indian Wars and

> such than was hostile fire?

>

> As for why some folks catch a disease and some don't .. as pointed out

> in Dale's post of the yonker who didn't catch Small Pox .. its for the

> same reason that some folks live to be 100 and some go under at a much

> younger age. Some folks are just deeper into the gene pool and have

> an immune system that rarely allows outside influence. Not my idea

> this, I know too little to express an opinion .. its something I read

> regarding studies of the Ebola Virus .. some folks do not die from it

> .. like 1 in 200 or so .. but then how many folks live to be 100?

>

> I don't think that all vaccinations fall into the same category as

> does Small Pox .. and as my yonkers are grown now I haven't given a

> lot of thought to vaccinations.

>

> But when I served in Central Command our area of operations was Africa

> and the Middle East .. and I was in one or more countries each month.

> My shot record(s) were long .. and but one time did I catch a bug ..

> in Somalia .. immune system kicked it without treatment, though there

> were times when it scared me. Some of my troops caught bad bugs that

> we had not planned for .. but none died. Somali folks did die. Does

> this mean that Americans have stronger immune systems than folks in

> poor countries? I think we do .. generally .. and for many reasons.

> Those who have been to Somalia know there are few civilians over 50

> years old .. except for high ranking military officers and War Lords

> folks typically go under in their late 40s. Why is this? The UN

> Medical Team I worked with there said it was certainly related to life

> style, diet and education .. but then many of the colonels and majors

> and such lived like peasants .. but they had access to proper medical

> facilities ... so the UN folks concluded that it likely had more to do

> with prevention .. and vaccinations. I must believe them.

>

> Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

>

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I have read that vaccinations were to inject a dead cell of a disease so the body builds up some immunity to that disease. The problem is still that the body panics and thinks it has the disease and this is horrible for the immune system. Vaccinations are harmful ,cause Autism and harms the bodies immune system.

 

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~B

 

On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 22:40 -0500, 1seer7 wrote:

 

I always thought vaccinations were based on the " poisons that heal " theory. ie.. Homeopathy.

 

 

No? Yes? At least until they started adding a bunch of crap.

 

 

 

 

 

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

 

If You Don't Take Care of Your Body, Where Are You Going To Live? Jane Pentz

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> Hi Ramona,

 

 

> I agree that vaccinations don't really protect against anything...

 

 

> There is one thing that does protect us that we love to talk about

 

 

> on this list that seems to be everyones favorite herb and that

 

 

> is.....GARLIC!!! Garlic is the best thing to have if any plague or

 

 

> illness starts to spread. It will stop it dead in its tracks!

 

 

> ~Kelly

 

 

>

 

 

>

 

 

> Ramona wrote: >

 

 

>

 

 

>> I have to laugh at Doug saying that. He is my brother, and it was

 

 

>> his son's autism that made me start to THINK about vaxing instead

 

 

>> of just doing. My eldest daughter was our foster child, and so

 

 

>> that was out of our hands until she was two. I do know that she

 

 

>> learned her first word at 1, and then got her vaccinations, and

 

 

>> couldn't learn any words or speak at all. She has been diagnosed

 

 

>> since then with apraxia (something Doug's second son has after

 

 

>> they cleansed his body when they started noticing autistic

 

 

>> symptoms coming after vaccinations).

 

 

>>

 

 

>> After seeing that, and starting the research, I am quite sure

 

 

>> that I will not vax my children. I am pretty sure with Alayna's

 

 

>> challenges that if we had continued with vaxing and gotten the

 

 

>> two year shots (MMR at 2 is a HUGE factor in autism) she would be

 

 

>> autistic. She has a lot of traits, but misses out on the autistic

 

 

>> spectrum thank goodness.

 

 

>>

 

 

>> Autism is the one that people know, but there are so many other

 

 

>> damages that vaccines do, and they DO NOT PREVENT catching the

 

 

>> disease. Doctors have gotten so vax happy it is scary. There are

 

 

>> so many things they vaccinate for. We do not need to be prevented

 

 

>> from ever being exposed to illness. It isn't good for our bodies.

 

 

>> In sterile hospitals they create super bugs.

 

 

>>

 

 

>> They have discovered that people who use antibacterial everything

 

 

>> and keep their houses spotless actually have children more prone

 

 

>> to illness. I like to think of the Martians on War of the Worlds.

 

 

>> Trying to keep themselves from all sickness they made themselves

 

 

>> more vulnerable.

 

 

>>

 

 

>> Remember the illnesses that are the MOST devastating to a

 

 

>> population are those that are unfamiliar to their bodies. By

 

 

>> trying to keep ourselves from all these illnesses aren't we

 

 

>> making more likely a serious reaction to exposure? (And make no

 

 

>> mistake you are exposing yourselves to them when you are

 

 

>> vaccinated or around someone who is newly vaccinated.) There are

 

 

>> continual wild outbreaks among the vaccinated populations. Ramona

 

 

>>

 

 

>> Quoting doug greene <greenedo:

 

 

>>

 

 

>>> I'm personally ambivalent about immunizations. But I'm not

 

 

>>> about when to give them, or making sure they're mercury-free

 

 

>>> (as opposed to " free mercury! " )

 

 

>>>

 

 

>>> baby's immune system is still immature and developing. Giving 6-

 

 

>>> 8 immunizations (each with toxic levels of mercury) to a

 

 

>>> newborn is very damaging.

 

 

>>> If you immunize, do so after they are old enough to take the

 

 

>>> jolt to their immune system, and do the shots one at a time,

 

 

>>> and make sure _SURE_ the shots don't have mercury in them. My

 

 

>>> son has Autism, and we attribute that (at least in part) to the

 

 

>>> immunizations.

 

 

>>>

 

 

>>> -Doug

 

 

>>>

 

 

>>

 

 

>> " Live in faith, not fear. "

 

 

>>

 

 

>>

 

 

>

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Almost all are full of mercury and other toxic substances that harm the body and wreck the immune system.--- On Wed, 1/28/09, Bryan Shillington <bryanshillington wrote:

Bryan Shillington <bryanshillington{Herbal Remedies} Vaccinationsherbal remedies Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 9:14 PM

 

 

I have read that vaccinations were to inject a dead cell of a disease so the body builds up some immunity to that disease. The problem is still that the body panics and thinks it has the disease and this is horrible for the immune system. Vaccinations are harmful ,cause Autism and harms the bodies immune system. Best~BOn Tue, 2009-01-27 at 22:40 -0500, 1seer7 (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net wrote: I always thought vaccinations were based on the "poisons that heal" theory. ie.. Homeopathy.

No? Yes? At least until they started adding a bunch of crap.

~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~

If You Don't Take Care of Your Body, Where Are You Going To Live? Jane Pentz

 

> Hi Ramona,

> I agree that vaccinations don't really protect against anything...

> There is one thing that does protect us that we love to talk about

> on this list that seems to be everyones favorite herb and that

> is.....GARLIC! !! Garlic is the best thing to have if any plague or

> illness starts to spread. It will stop it dead in its tracks!

> ~Kelly

>

>

> Ramona wrote: >

>

>> I have to laugh at Doug saying that. He is my brother, and it was

>> his son's autism that made me start to THINK about vaxing instead

>> of just doing. My eldest daughter was our foster child, and so

>> that was out of our hands until she was two. I do know that she

>> learned her first word at 1, and then got her vaccinations, and

>> couldn't learn any words or speak at all. She has been diagnosed

>> since then with apraxia (something Doug's second son has after

>> they cleansed his body when they started noticing autistic

>> symptoms coming after vaccinations) .

>>

>> After seeing that, and starting the research, I am quite sure

>> that I will not vax my children. I am pretty sure with Alayna's

>> challenges that if we had continued with vaxing and gotten the

>> two year shots (MMR at 2 is a HUGE factor in autism) she would be

>> autistic. She has a lot of traits, but misses out on the autistic

>> spectrum thank goodness.

>>

>> Autism is the one that people know, but there are so many other

>> damages that vaccines do, and they DO NOT PREVENT catching the

>> disease. Doctors have gotten so vax happy it is scary. There are

>> so many things they vaccinate for. We do not need to be prevented

>> from ever being exposed to illness. It isn't good for our bodies.

>> In sterile hospitals they create super bugs.

>>

>> They have discovered that people who use antibacterial everything

>> and keep their houses spotless actually have children more prone

>> to illness. I like to think of the Martians on War of the Worlds.

>> Trying to keep themselves from all sickness they made themselves

>> more vulnerable.

>>

>> Remember the illnesses that are the MOST devastating to a

>> population are those that are unfamiliar to their bodies. By

>> trying to keep ourselves from all these illnesses aren't we

>> making more likely a serious reaction to exposure? (And make no

>> mistake you are exposing yourselves to them when you are

>> vaccinated or around someone who is newly vaccinated.) There are

>> continual wild outbreaks among the vaccinated populations. Ramona

>>

>> Quoting doug greene <greenedo >:

>>

>>> I'm personally ambivalent about immunizations. But I'm not

>>> about when to give them, or making sure they're mercury-free

>>> (as opposed to "free mercury!")

>>>

>>> baby's immune system is still immature and developing. Giving 6-

>>> 8 immunizations (each with toxic levels of mercury) to a

>>> newborn is very damaging.

>>> If you immunize, do so after they are old enough to take the

>>> jolt to their immune system, and do the shots one at a time,

>>> and make sure _SURE_ the shots don't have mercury in them. My

>>> son has Autism, and we attribute that (at least in part) to the

>>> immunizations.

>>>

>>> -Doug

>>>

>>

>> "Live in faith, not fear."

>>

>>

>

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