AUTISM, DOWN SYNDROME, AND OTHER GENETIC DISORDERS - All the Protocols of My Entire Program

[Guest guest]

I have to wonder how many people simultaneously noticing the same

results does it take to be called evidence rather than anecdotal?

These are the same things that doctors say to discredit herbs and

natural healing. " Sorry. No studies. " Um, so ignoring thousands of

years of human healing is more scientific?

 

Recently doctors have started telling women that red raspberry leaf is

dangerous to take when pregnant as it might cause miscarriages. As

RRL is one of the best most safe herbs for anything female this

surprised me when I first heard it. Well, doing some research I found

that the doctors base that on the premise that since RRL strengthens

contractions in the third trimester, it would do the same in the first

trimester and thus cause miscarriages. (And thousands of years of

women wouldn't have noticed the connection?) You see, doctors are

used to dealing with drugs. All their training is in drugs, by the

drug companies. They are used to reading and dealing only with the

reality the pharmaceutical companies present. Since herbs are so

different (often being thinking herbs and having different reactions

depending on what you need) they have no idea how to deal with them.

I had a doctor flat out tell me that he wouldn't use herbs because he

didn't have control over them.

 

Also, another example is the new vaccine for the virus that can cause

cervical cancer. (I am not even addressing how it is an STD that

affects only those girls who have sex too young with too many people

too close together.) The clinical trials found that their was not much

difference between the placebo and the vaccine for reactions. On the

surface that sounds like " Hey, this is a safe vaccine. " Well, if you

read more deeply, you find that the placebo was ALUMINUM! People had

severe reactions to it including stopping breathing and death. Hmm,

and they say parents are whacko when we say vaccines are related to

SIDS? So not many more people had immediate severe reactions when you

throw in a cocktail of cancer causing viruses (which by the way only

cause cancer if you are exposed to too many of them all at the same

time) than they did to being injected with aluminum. Sure sounds safe

to me. Sign me up for half a dozen at the same time. I am sure it is

safe.

Ramona

 

Quoting doug greene <greenedo:

 

> This is rather difficult to find for a couple reasons:

> 1- Admission of this would create a huge liability on a low-margin

> commodity for pharmaceutical companies.

> 2- Admission of this would create a huge liability for the

> government that _requires_ you to inject your babies with this.

> 3- Many studies have been commissioned by both the government and

> Pharmaceutical companies to disprove the theory of causality. When

> someone pays you for a result, you either find the result they want,

> or don't get paid.

>

> There are several people who have noted that symptoms have set in

> soon after, or even the same day of vaccination.

> There are other factors that seem to be " coincidental " - ear

> infections from a young age followed by antibiotic regimens, being

> slightly sick on the day of the vaccinations, the content of

> thimerisol in the vaccines, etc. But the companies usually try to

> disprove this theory, by showing that the diagnosis and changes

> don't happen at the same time. This is for 2 main reasons: 1-

> vaccines remain in the pipeline for 2-3 years (they have a long

> shelf life because they have Thimerisol to keep them " good " ), 2-

> Diagnosis usually takes some time, unless the parent knows what to

> look for, and it is usually proceeded by several false diagnoses

> (Diagnosis = Di [two] agnos [don't know] = neither you nor the

> doctor has a clue what it is, or what caused it).

>

> You will find lots of anecdotal stories, but I doubt that you will

> _ever_ have it openly admitted. The government is phasing out

> thimerosol from vaccines, but there's a lot of old stock left, and

> it has a longer shelf life, and they still give too many too soon.

> Some vaccines are only for the benefit of the healthcare provider:

> Hepatitis B is an STD. The reason they try to bully you into

> getting it in the hospital is so that the nurses won't have to put

> on gloves to handle the baby.

>

> There are a few doctors that listen to parents. But they are few

> and far between. They also don't know much about anything other

> than treating symptoms. If you cut your arm off, or are shot, then

> the symptoms _are_ what you want to get treated. If you have a

> chronic condition - they won't know how to solve the problem.

>

> -Doug

 

 

 

" Live in faith, not fear. "

[Guest guest]

Aluminum Placebo? I'm sure that won't hurt anything....My family doesn't watch much tv, so when we do, it's remarkable the amount of pharmaceuticals that are advertised. The super quick portion (where they tell you the side effects) are always interesting - antidepressants that have side effects of thoughts of suicide, decongestants that cause congestion, etc. Another thing they say is after listing the side-effects, they say something about their similarity to the placebo.I found out that there are no standards for the placebos. Meaning that when you are given a trial drug, they usually doctor the placebo to give the same side-effects that they expect for the drug. They used to have placebos that were sugar-pills with a slight bitterant to make them

difficult to distinguish from a drug with sugar in it. Now, they make a placebo to give cramps, vomiting, nausea, and whatever other side-effects that they want. Scary.I have always had some skepticism about the medical profession, (Why do you think they call it "practice"), but the more I understand about them, the more cynical I get. There are some that are honestly trying to do what is best for their patients (another interesting term). Unfortunately, they usually don't have the background, and once indoctrinated in the religion of medical orthodoxy, they have a hard time going against the "studies". -DougRamona <ramonaherbal remedies Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:44:42 AMRe: {Herbal Remedies} AUTISM, DOWN SYNDROME, AND OTHER GENETIC DISORDERS - All the Protocols of My Entire Program

 

I have to wonder how many people simultaneously noticing the same

results does it take to be called evidence rather than anecdotal?

These are the same things that doctors say to discredit herbs and

natural healing. "Sorry. No studies." Um, so ignoring thousands of

years of human healing is more scientific?

 

Recently doctors have started telling women that red raspberry leaf is

dangerous to take when pregnant as it might cause miscarriages. As

RRL is one of the best most safe herbs for anything female this

surprised me when I first heard it. Well, doing some research I found

that the doctors base that on the premise that since RRL strengthens

contractions in the third trimester, it would do the same in the first

trimester and thus cause miscarriages. (And thousands of years of

women wouldn't have noticed the connection?) You see, doctors are

used to dealing with drugs. All their training is in drugs, by the

drug companies. They are used to reading and dealing only with the

reality the pharmaceutical companies present. Since herbs are so

different (often being thinking herbs and having different reactions

depending on what you need) they have no idea how to deal with them.

I had a doctor flat out tell me that he wouldn't use herbs because he

didn't have control over them.

 

Also, another example is the new vaccine for the virus that can cause

cervical cancer. (I am not even addressing how it is an STD that

affects only those girls who have sex too young with too many people

too close together.) The clinical trials found that their was not much

difference between the placebo and the vaccine for reactions. On the

surface that sounds like "Hey, this is a safe vaccine." Well, if you

read more deeply, you find that the placebo was ALUMINUM! People had

severe reactions to it including stopping breathing and death. Hmm,

and they say parents are whacko when we say vaccines are related to

SIDS? So not many more people had immediate severe reactions when you

throw in a cocktail of cancer causing viruses (which by the way only

cause cancer if you are exposed to too many of them all at the same

time) than they did to being injected with aluminum. Sure sounds safe

to me. Sign me up for half a dozen at the same time. I am sure it is

safe.

Ramona

 

Quoting doug greene <greenedo >:

 

> This is rather difficult to find for a couple reasons:

> 1- Admission of this would create a huge liability on a low-margin

> commodity for pharmaceutical companies.

> 2- Admission of this would create a huge liability for the

> government that _requires_ you to inject your babies with this.

> 3- Many studies have been commissioned by both the government and

> Pharmaceutical companies to disprove the theory of causality. When

> someone pays you for a result, you either find the result they want,

> or don't get paid.

>

> There are several people who have noted that symptoms have set in

> soon after, or even the same day of vaccination.

> There are other factors that seem to be "coincidental" - ear

> infections from a young age followed by antibiotic regimens, being

> slightly sick on the day of the vaccinations, the content of

> thimerisol in the vaccines, etc. But the companies usually try to

> disprove this theory, by showing that the diagnosis and changes

> don't happen at the same time. This is for 2 main reasons: 1-

> vaccines remain in the pipeline for 2-3 years (they have a long

> shelf life because they have Thimerisol to keep them "good"), 2-

> Diagnosis usually takes some time, unless the parent knows what to

> look for, and it is usually proceeded by several false diagnoses

> (Diagnosis = Di [two] agnos [don't know] = neither you nor the

> doctor has a clue what it is, or what caused it).

>

> You will find lots of anecdotal stories, but I doubt that you will

> _ever_ have it openly admitted. The government is phasing out

> thimerosol from vaccines, but there's a lot of old stock left, and

> it has a longer shelf life, and they still give too many too soon.

> Some vaccines are only for the benefit of the healthcare provider:

> Hepatitis B is an STD. The reason they try to bully you into

> getting it in the hospital is so that the nurses won't have to put

> on gloves to handle the baby.

>

> There are a few doctors that listen to parents. But they are few

> and far between. They also don't know much about anything other

> than treating symptoms. If you cut your arm off, or are shot, then

> the symptoms _are_ what you want to get treated. If you have a

> chronic condition - they won't know how to solve the problem.

>

> -Doug

 

"Live in faith, not fear."