I'll never send my kid to public school.

January 5, 2009

It was that I could learn with my parents in the morning and work in the afternoon. I started a business when I was 11 with my parents lawn mower and made enough to by a boat & motor. Then I was selling fish and bringing them home for Mom to cook. The thing I most appreciated was that I was free to observe the world and learn from my own observations and that I was allowed to work when I was young. Being able to make money taught me how manners and how business relationships worked. I would have never learned anything of the real world in a class room. Now, when I talk with my generation I find that they are immature and uneducated. I feel that public school didn't prepare them at all for the world and this is another reason for me to be thankful that I was home schooled.

A question parents could ask their kids is what does government education really teach our youth? The answer you will probably hear is " not much, they just want us to pass the test so they give us the answers before we do the test. " or " Our school doesn't really teach us anything; they only care about how many of us pass the test as their funding depends upon statics alone. " or " They do teach us that we are ruled by government and since they put up the fence and tripled the cops on campus it really does feel like a prison. "

It is well known that public school is the place where kids can obtain every kind of drug. From crack cocaine to ecstasy and cough medicine to heroin. The worst are mind altering drugs that are sold out of lockers and the education kids teach each other like " dude you can get high if you inhale that can of air " or " watch me make a bong out of this Avocado " or " the only way we can be secure is if we have numbers and join or start a gang. " Public school teaches our kids to be criminals and prepares them for prison. The question is still the same. " What does government education teach our youth? Promiscuity, laziness, drug education, fear of law enforcement, no production and lack of enthusiasm to start life as an adult appear to be a few but ask a kid for a more local report on your nearest public school.

We will never send our daughter to a public school even if it means leaving the land of the free and the home of the brave. We will teach her so she will survive in this world and not waste her youth learning garbage.

~21 year old parent

On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 20:53 +0000, Lori wrote:

Hi Bryan,

I love being a homeschoolmom and almost every homeschooler I have ever met love the fact they they homeschooled, my kids included. I believe it is the fundamental right of every parent to have freedom of educational chocie for their children. The gov't has taken this right away with compulsory schooling and in some states even homeschooling falls under the state with mandated tests. This is wrong.

We are not conventional homeschoolers. We do not <do> school. I do nto replicate that which I disagree with. We are a combo of Relaxed/Unschoolers who have traveled this journey the past 16 years. I wanted to start our homeschool journey in 1984, but my husband was not on board back then. We have 3 kids who have " graduated " our homeschool, and another who will in a couple of years. Awesome, awesome lifestyle!!! I wish I had just had the forsight to go with my instincts way back in 1980....

I know you will homeschool (yeah!!!!) and it is a great thing to pass on. However, you liv ein one of those testing states now. I hope you will find a way around all this nonsense. I have had people ask me how it is " fair " that my kids don't have to take mandatory tests and I always reply back they have the same choice if they homeschool!

So, please share with me what were some of the things you most appreciated about your own homeschool years? I love to hear about them.

Blessings,

Lori

Schooling is not education, and education is not schooling~John Taylor Gatto

herbal remedies

BryanShillington

Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:26:30 -0500

{Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.

Thank you!!!

I try to make my posts interesting and they say a picture says a thousand words.

I would really like to commend you for being a home school mom and for disseminating that you are a home school mom. I was home taught and it is with out a doubt a better education. Rock on. I'm sure your kids will thank you for it.

Marry Christmas and a happy New Year from the Shillingtons and herbalists.

~B

P.S. I did not know what Coco Puffs were when I was ten. Thanks to Mom and Dad and their teachings.

Bryan,

Great info, though very basic!

That's what I love about this site~Doc's commitment to teaching and truly wanting to help without all the greed. He is fantastic! But I also know he sells high-quality herbs.

I also love all the pictures you always add to your posts. Beautiful!

To al the Shillington's and their herbalist's~

Merry Christmas and Happy new Year! May God bless each one of you in the coming year.

Blessings,

Lori

Schooling is not education, and education is not schooling~John Taylor Gatto

The Academy of Natural Healing

Be your own herbalist. Make all your own medicine.

If you would like free instruction or Doc's formulas call the Academy #828-835-8071

Grow your own Organic herbs and hang dry them in the kitchen window.

Grind them up with a mortar and pestle or in a coffee grinder, then boil some water and make the tea you need.

Gather a bunch of dry herbs so you have everything you need for all ailments. Get some books so you can look up the remedy and fix what ever may come your way.

There are around 7,000 health enthusiasts on Herbal Remedies. If all of you were to become herbalists you could be fully in charge of your own health which is the ultimate goal of Organic Solutions and the Academy of Natural Healing. We will provide you with the herbal preparations you need to heal yourselves, but we want you to be the at home herbalists. In the days of old, there was an herbalist in every household and we would like to see this happen again.

If we were to teach you all we know of natural healing, you might think that it would harm Organic Solutions business; this is however not the case. There are millions of people who are just too lazy to cure themselves and learn to make their own products. We don't care if you take our formula's and open a successful business as there are plenty of people who need your help. We would love it if you and your family never had to call us or a natural healer ever again. We have tons of business so please take our knowledge and get your family and friends well.

As you probably know, Doc is the founder of the Academy of Natural Healing and educating is our purpose. Its true that we make most of our bread selling organic herbs but we wish it was not so. Our purpose is to teach so if you want to learn utilize us for the love of Garlic!!!

You probably joined this list to learn of Natural Healing and herbs. I doubt you joined this list to buy herbs so take the next step and call us to get Doc's Lifetime Lecture Series or to get answers on how to make your own herbal preparations. We want you to be responsible for your own health and help those you know.

Best of health to you all

~Bryan

Journeyman Herbalist

Academy of Natural Healing

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January 5, 2009

When my son was about 5 he leaned out of a cart in the store one day, looked at some obscure productand read the label on the bottle. I was astounded.. as he wasn't just immitating a tv logo but reading it. We took a month and I taught him to read.

After that our first book was Tolkeins "the Hobit" in full length... He read half and I read half. he was very good.. at reading and comprehension..

I took my son out of the public school system in Oregon during his sixth grade year.

The school was a disaster in terms of controlling the kids behaviors, creating physical safety, and failing to adequately punish severe bullying.

We worked together at home/library for 4 years.

I never had a schedule to speak of, or a syllabus. What we did have was a list of subjects, ranging from english/literature, history, science, math, and fitness. We generally would take a topic and focus on it for 3 to 4 hours or so at a time.

My approach was to teach BOTH facts and concepts. Each depends upon the other.

Beyond that, I spent a lot of energy teaching my son how to think. I would show him a statement, and ask him... "what is this saying?Is it implying anything?does it lead you subtly or overtly to form a conclusion without your being fully informed by maneuvering your emotions?"

We talked about how to think through problems and how to find resources for learning new things.

After 4 years, he had had enough of dad... and wanted to socialize at school again. I put him back in the public High School where he did fine. To be fair, the high school was run more responsibly.

the schools were pushing a lot of garbage that I wanted him to be free of.

He is now nearly 21 and an extremely bright young man who is well respected, hard working, and in the U. S. Military.

I am proud of him.

Mike

--- On Mon, 1/5/09, bryanshillington <BryanShillington wrote:

bryanshillington <BryanShillington{Herbal Remedies} I'll never send my kid to public school.herbal remedies Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 10:55 AM

It was that I could learn with my parents in the morning and work in the afternoon. I started a business when I was 11 with my parents lawn mower and made enough to by a boat & motor. Then I was selling fish and bringing them home for Mom to cook. The thing I most appreciated was that I was free to observe the world and learn from my own observations and that I was allowed to work when I was young. Being able to make money taught me how manners and how business relationships worked. I would have never learned anything of the real world in a class room. Now, when I talk with my generation I find that they are immature and uneducated. I feel that public school didn't prepare them at all for the world and this is another reason for me to be thankful that I was home schooled.A question parents could ask their kids is what does government education really teach

our youth? The answer you will probably hear is "not much, they just want us to pass the test so they give us the answers before we do the test." or "Our school doesn't really teach us anything; they only care about how many of us pass the test as their funding depends upon statics alone." or "They do teach us that we are ruled by government and since they put up the fence and tripled the cops on campus it really does feel like a prison." It is well known that public school is the place where kids can obtain every kind of drug. From crack cocaine to ecstasy and cough medicine to heroin. The worst are mind altering drugs that are sold out of lockers and the education kids teach each other like "dude you can get high if you inhale that can of air" or "watch me make a bong out of this Avocado" or "the only way we can be secure is if we have numbers and join or start a gang." Public

school teaches our kids to be criminals and prepares them for prison. The question is still the same. " What does government education teach our youth? Promiscuity, laziness, drug education, fear of law enforcement, no production and lack of enthusiasm to start life as an adult appear to be a few but ask a kid for a more local report on your nearest public school. We will never send our daughter to a public school even if it means leaving the land of the free and the home of the brave. We will teach her so she will survive in this world and not waste her youth learning garbage.~21 year old parent On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 20:53 +0000, Lori wrote: Hi Bryan, I love being a homeschoolmom and almost every homeschooler I have ever met love the fact they they homeschooled, my kids included. I believe it is the fundamental right of every parent to have freedom of educational chocie for their children. The gov't has taken this right away with compulsory schooling and in some states even homeschooling falls under the state with mandated tests. This is wrong.We are not conventional homeschoolers. We do not <do> school. I do nto replicate that which I disagree with. We are a combo of Relaxed/Unschoolers who have traveled this journey the past 16 years. I wanted to start our homeschool journey in 1984, but my husband was not on board back then. We have 3 kids who have "graduated" our homeschool, and another who will in a couple of years. Awesome, awesome lifestyle!!! I wish I had just had the forsight to go with my instincts way back in 1980....I know

you will homeschool (yeah!!!!) and it is a great thing to pass on. However, you liv ein one of those testing states now. I hope you will find a way around all this nonsense. I have had people ask me how it is "fair" that my kids don't have to take mandatory tests and I always reply back they have the same choice if they homeschool! :)So, please share with me what were some of the things you most appreciated about your own homeschool years? I love to hear about them. Blessings, LoriSchooling is not education, and education is not schooling~John Taylor Gatto

herbal remediesBryanShillington@ Knology.netTue, 30 Dec 2008 18:26:30 -0500{Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.

Thank you!!!I try to make my posts interesting and they say a picture says a thousand words.I would really like to commend you for being a home school mom and for disseminating that you are a home school mom. I was home taught and it is with out a doubt a better education. Rock on. I'm sure your kids will thank you for it.Marry Christmas and a happy New Year from the Shillingtons and herbalists. ~B P.S. I did not know what Coco Puffs were when I was ten. Thanks to Mom and Dad and their teachings. Bryan, Great info, though very basic! That's what I love about this

site~Doc's commitment to teaching and truly wanting to help without all the greed. He is fantastic! But I also know he sells high-quality herbs. I also love all the pictures you always add to your posts. Beautiful! To al the Shillington' s and their herbalist's~ Merry Christmas and Happy new Year! May God bless each one of you in the coming year. Blessings, LoriSchooling is not education, and education is not schooling~John Taylor Gatto

The Academy of Natural HealingBe your own herbalist. Make all your own medicine. If you would like free instruction or Doc's formulas call the Academy #828-835-8071 Grow your own Organic herbs and hang dry them in the kitchen window. Grind them up with a mortar and pestle or in a coffee grinder, then boil some water and make the tea you need. Gather a bunch of dry herbs so you have everything you need for all ailments. Get some books so you can look up the remedy and fix what ever may come your way.There are around 7,000 health enthusiasts

on Herbal Remedies. If all of you were to become herbalists you could be fully in charge of your own health which is the ultimate goal of Organic Solutions and the Academy of Natural Healing. We will provide you with the herbal preparations you need to heal yourselves, but we want you to be the at home herbalists. In the days of old, there was an herbalist in every household and we would like to see this happen again. If we were to teach you all we know of natural healing, you might think that it would harm Organic Solutions business; this is however not the case. There are millions of people who are just too lazy to cure themselves and learn to make their own products. We don't care if you take our formula's and open a successful business as there are plenty of people who need your help. We would love it if you and your family never had to call us or a natural healer ever again. We have tons of

business so please take our knowledge and get your family and friends well. As you probably know, Doc is the founder of the Academy of Natural Healing and educating is our purpose. Its true that we make most of our bread selling organic herbs but we wish it was not so. Our purpose is to teach so if you want to learn utilize us for the love of Garlic!!!You probably joined this list to learn of Natural Healing and herbs. I doubt you joined this list to buy herbs so take the next step and call us to get Doc's Lifetime Lecture Series or to get answers on how to make your own herbal preparations. We want you to be responsible for your own health and help those you know. Best of health to you all~BryanJourneyman HerbalistAcademy of Natural Healing

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January 5, 2009

Kudos to you and your parents. I think what it

comes down to is the ability of the parent to trust the child to learn

what he/she needs to learn to live. Our society makes us think that

ONLY the experts know how to educate our children, and that all education

should look like government education. I for one was so afraid to

step outside that box and start the process of trusting myself to be the

expert on my own children, and to trust my children to know what they

needed to learn when they needed to learn it. What a world that

opened up to me when we made that decision to start the journey of

educating outside the box!!! What wonderful, wise women I met that

mentored me and encouraged me to learn, learn, learn.

It is SO wonderful to hear from the next generation that they have NOT

just accepted the status quo and are forging on " outside the

box " . You are truly blessed.

Leslie Montemayor

At 01:55 PM 1/5/2009, you wrote:

It was that I could learn with my parents in

the morning and work in the afternoon. I started a business when I was 11

with my parents lawn mower and made enough to by a boat & motor. Then

I was selling fish and bringing them home for Mom to cook. The thing I

most appreciated was that I was free to observe the world and learn from

my own observations and that I was allowed to work when I was young.

Being able to make money taught me how manners and how business

relationships worked. I would have never learned anything of the real

world in a class room. Now, when I talk with my generation I find that

they are immature and uneducated. I feel that public school didn't

prepare them at all for the world and this is another reason for me to be

thankful that I was home schooled.

A question parents could ask their

kids is what does government education really teach our

youth? The answer you will probably hear is " not much, they

just want us to pass the test so they give us the answers before we do

the test. " or " Our school doesn't really teach us anything;

they only care about how many of us pass the test as their funding

depends upon statics alone. " or " They do teach us that we are

ruled by government and since they put up the fence and tripled the cops

on campus it really does feel like a prison. "

It is well known that public school

is the place where kids can obtain every kind of drug. From crack cocaine

to ecstasy and cough medicine to heroin. The worst are mind altering

drugs that are sold out of lockers and the education kids teach each

other like " dude you can get high if you inhale that can of

air " or " watch me make a bong out of this Avocado " or

" the only way we can be secure is if we have numbers and join or

start a gang. " Public school teaches our kids to be criminals

and prepares them for prison. The question is still the same.

" What does government education teach our

youth? Promiscuity, laziness, drug education, fear of law

enforcement, no production and lack of enthusiasm to start life as an

adult appear to be a few but ask a kid for a more local report on your

nearest public school.

We will never send our daughter to a

public school even if it means leaving the land of the free and the home

of the brave. We will teach her so she will survive in this world and not

waste her youth learning garbage.

~21 year old parent

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9:44 AM

Leslie Montemayor

We worry about what a child will be tomorrow, yet we forget that he

is someone today.

Stacie Tauscher

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are

willing to work, and give to those who would not. -- Thomas

Jefferson

" Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's

character, give him power.

- Abraham Lincoln

January 7, 2009

I believe the first book I read was the hobbit. I remember that I could not read until I was eight. I had no interest and it seemed so important to everyone else so naturally I resisted. The thing that made me read was that my Dad started reading stories aloud. He read me the entire Lord of the Rings and several other fat books. When I was Eight I picked up ' The Hobbit' and read it. Everyones jaw droped. Then I went book crazy and I still can't stop reading. I still love a good story but I read a lot of old history books and anything printed before 1950 when psych/ shrink data started. Can't believe that no one taught me how to read. I got interested and just read it.

Best

~B

On Mon, Michael wrote:

When my son was about 5 he leaned out of a cart in the store one day, looked at some obscure productand read the label on the bottle. I was astounded.. as he wasn't just immitating a tv logo but reading it. We took a month and I taught him to read.

After that our first book was Tolkeins " the Hobit " in full length... He read half and I read half. he was very good.. at reading and comprehension..

I took my son out of the public school system in Oregon during his sixth grade year. The school was a disaster in terms of controlling the kids behaviors, creating physical safety, and failing to adequately punish severe bullying.

We worked together at home/library for 4 years.

I never had a schedule to speak of, or a syllabus. What we did have was a list of subjects, ranging from english/literature, history, science, math, and fitness. We generally would take a topic and focus on it for 3 to 4 hours or so at a time.

My approach was to teach BOTH facts and concepts. Each depends upon the other.

Beyond that, I spent a lot of energy teaching my son how to think. I would show him a statement, and ask him... " what is this saying? " " Is it implying anything? " " does it lead you subtly or overtly to form a conclusion without your being fully informed by maneuvering your emotions? "

We talked about how to think through problems and how to find resources for learning new things.

After 4 years, he had had enough of dad... and wanted to socialize at school again. I put him back in the public High School where he did fine. To be fair, the high school was run more responsibly.

the schools were pushing a lot of garbage that I wanted him to be free of.

He is now nearly 21 and an extremely bright young man who is well respected, hard working, and in the U. S. Military.

I am proud of him.

Mike

--- On Mon, 1/5/09, bryanshillington <BryanShillington wrote:

bryanshillington <BryanShillington

{Herbal Remedies} I'll never send my kid to public school.

herbal remedies

Monday, January 5, 2009, 10:55 AM

It was that I could learn with my parents in the morning and work in the afternoon. I started a business when I was 11 with my parents lawn mower and made enough to by a boat & motor. Then I was selling fish and bringing them home for Mom to cook. The thing I most appreciated was that I was free to observe the world and learn from my own observations and that I was allowed to work when I was young. Being able to make money taught me how manners and how business relationships worked. I would have never learned anything of the real world in a class room. Now, when I talk with my generation I find that they are immature and uneducated. I feel that public school didn't prepare them at all for the world and this is another reason for me to be thankful that I was home schooled.

A question parents could ask their kids is what does government education really teach our youth? The answer you will probably hear is " not much, they just want us to pass the test so they give us the answers before we do the test. " or " Our school doesn't really teach us anything; they only care about how many of us pass the test as their funding depends upon statics alone. " or " They do teach us that we are ruled by government and since they put up the fence and tripled the cops on campus it really does feel like a prison. "

It is well known that public school is the place where kids can obtain every kind of drug. From crack cocaine to ecstasy and cough medicine to heroin. The worst are mind altering drugs that are sold out of lockers and the education kids teach each other like " dude you can get high if you inhale that can of air " or " watch me make a bong out of this Avocado " or " the only way we can be secure is if we have numbers and join or start a gang. " Public school teaches our kids to be criminals and prepares them for prison. The question is still the same. " What does government education teach our youth? Promiscuity, laziness, drug education, fear of law enforcement, no production and lack of enthusiasm to start life as an adult appear to be a few but ask a kid for a more local report on your nearest public school.

We will never send our daughter to a public school even if it means leaving the land of the free and the home of the brave. We will teach her so she will survive in this world and not waste her youth learning garbage.

~21 year old parent

On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 20:53 +0000, Lori wrote:

Hi Bryan,

I love being a homeschoolmom and almost every homeschooler I have ever met love the fact they they homeschooled, my kids included. I believe it is the fundamental right of every parent to have freedom of educational chocie for their children. The gov't has taken this right away with compulsory schooling and in some states even homeschooling falls under the state with mandated tests. This is wrong.

We are not conventional homeschoolers. We do not <do> school. I do nto replicate that which I disagree with. We are a combo of Relaxed/Unschoolers who have traveled this journey the past 16 years. I wanted to start our homeschool journey in 1984, but my husband was not on board back then. We have 3 kids who have " graduated " our homeschool, and another who will in a couple of years. Awesome, awesome lifestyle!!! I wish I had just had the forsight to go with my instincts way back in 1980....

I know you will homeschool (yeah!!!!) and it is a great thing to pass on. However, you liv ein one of those testing states now. I hope you will find a way around all this nonsense. I have had people ask me how it is " fair " that my kids don't have to take mandatory tests and I always reply back they have the same choice if they homeschool!

So, please share with me what were some of the things you most appreciated about your own homeschool years? I love to hear about them.

Blessings,

Lori

Schooling is not education, and education is not schooling~John Taylor Gatto

herbal remedies

BryanShillington@ Knology.net

Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:26:30 -0500

{Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.

Thank you!!!

I try to make my posts interesting and they say a picture says a thousand words.

I would really like to commend you for being a home school mom and for disseminating that you are a home school mom. I was home taught and it is with out a doubt a better education. Rock on. I'm sure your kids will thank you for it.

Marry Christmas and a happy New Year from the Shillingtons and herbalists.

~B

P.S. I did not know what Coco Puffs were when I was ten. Thanks to Mom and Dad and their teachings.

Bryan,

Great info, though very basic!

That's what I love about this site~Doc's commitment to teaching and truly wanting to help without all the greed. He is fantastic! But I also know he sells high-quality herbs.

I also love all the pictures you always add to your posts. Beautiful!

To al the Shillington' s and their herbalist's~