Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.

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Jaynee-

South of Detroit, on the Detroit River just before it dumps into Lake Erie.

Kris

 

 

 

Thanks, Kris, for your story. What part of Michigan are you from? I was in the thumb area (Metro Detroit through Port Huron).-- Jaynee

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I know this isn't a home schooling site, so forgive this question and feel free to email me offline at kristen.cook if you have an answer...

If I am not a teacher, so is it out of the question for us to homeschool? How does homeschooling work? Is it beneficial to the kids, or does it tend to change who they are socially... as in.. more of an isolation, fear of social settings... etc.

Sounds like a silly question, perhaps. But the only kids I know that were homeschooled were my cousins. A brother and sister who's mom kept them home and homeschooled them. They are currently still at home in hospital beds (in their young 30's). Both with back and neck problems addicted to pain pumps. They tried going out into the world and crumbled.

But I also don't want to disregard my homeschooling interest based on their outcome.

Any suggestions/guidance would be appreciated. My little ones are 4 and 1.

Thanks!! Kristen--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Kris Davidson <bradandkris wrote:

Kris Davidson <bradandkris{Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.herbal remedies Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 5:46 PM

 

 

 

Jaynee-

South of Detroit, on the Detroit River just before it dumps into Lake Erie.

Kris

 

 

 

Thanks, Kris, for your story. What part of Michigan are you from? I was in the thumb area (Metro Detroit through Port Huron).-- Jaynee

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Kris Davidson wrote:

 

 

 

Jaynee-

South of Detroit, on the Detroit

River just before it dumps into Lake Erie.

Kris

 

 

 

 

 

I lived in Fraser, located between Roseville, Warren, Clinton Twp, and

Sterling Hts.

 

-- Jaynee who has tunes of "It's a Small World" running through her head.

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My wife and i homeschooled our 5 kids for over 20 years and they did great! Two of them are in med school and my daughter is a nurse. The other 2 own a computer business. You need a sponsoring teacher too verify you are legit and there are tons of materials out there too help you! Good Luck!Whatever it is -- I didn't do it! --- On Sun, 1/4/09, kristen cook <kristen.cook wrote:kristen cook <kristen.cookRe: {Herbal Remedies} Home

educating is a hundred times better than public school.herbal remedies Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 8:29 PM

I know this isn't a home schooling site, so forgive this question and feel free to email me offline at kristen.cook if you have an answer...

If I am not a teacher, so is it out of the question for us to homeschool? How does homeschooling work? Is it beneficial to the kids, or does it tend to change who they are socially... as in.. more of an isolation, fear of social settings... etc.

Sounds like a silly question, perhaps. But the only kids I know that were homeschooled were my cousins. A brother and sister who's mom kept them home and homeschooled them. They are currently still at home in hospital beds (in their young 30's). Both with back and neck problems addicted to pain pumps. They tried going out into the world and crumbled.

But I also don't want to disregard my homeschooling interest based on their outcome.

Any suggestions/guidance would be appreciated. My little ones are 4 and 1.

Thanks!! Kristen--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Kris Davidson <bradandkris wrote:

Kris Davidson <bradandkris{Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.herbal remedies Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 5:46 PM

 

 

 

Jaynee-

South of Detroit, on the Detroit River just before it dumps into Lake Erie.

Kris

 

 

 

Thanks, Kris, for your story. What part of Michigan are you from? I was in the thumb area (Metro Detroit through Port Huron).-- Jaynee

[Guest guest]

good evening ...

 

i have not followed the homeschool thread ... as i did not really want to start something else i had to ' follow " . life has been quite stressful lately and i did not want anything extra that i had to " tend to " .

 

i have homeschooled in excess of 16 years , 3 kids . looking at starting over this coming summer with the first grandchild . yes , my kids where taught right ... but in the end the choices they are making are ultimately their own . LOOOOONG story on that one !!

 

IF you are seriously considering homeschooling , i would HIGHLY recommend joining HSLDA [ homeschoollegal defense association ] it cost a little , i think around 125 $ - the last time i heard it , but this can have changed .

 

second , go to

 

http://www.greenleafpress.com/bb/viewforum.php?f=3

 

and

 

http://www.elijahcompany.com/

 

i do not remember which one it was , but you could order both catalougs and do the research yourself . ONE of the two had an AWESOME !!! writeup on different schooling approaches [ in their cataloug ] , that i wish someone had pointed me to when i first started out . [[ remember , i am writing about this from memory , which is foggy ]] ... but they had all the approaches listed ,i.e classical approach , charlotte mason .... etc . and you could compare them and choose which one you want to use . looking at it from a backward point of view ,gives you the opportunity to decide what you want to teach , how you want to come to " your end " and what is important to you . i personnally am more for a classical approach , lots of reading and classsic literature but i do not like to be hindered by too many and too tight boundaries . there is CALVERT school , which does classical ,and they are very good AND very expensive [ if you have moere than one child ] but VERY structured . and i dont like that ! . anyway , order their catalouges , both have some of the best materials out there , and i HIGHLY recomend anything they are selling !! they are very picky in their choices and you will not find anything questionable in their lineup .

 

3., mary pride wrote a set of books on homeschooling [ have NO CLUE if they have been updated , since i first bought them all these many years ago ] ,,,, but they had one and all info on homeschooling you could wish for or think about !!

 

4 . there is more than one way to skin a cat -- or in this case homeschool !!! there are longdistance schools out there , like calvert , christian liberty , to name a few , where you are considered a satelite school ,. christian liberty has several choices of how you can sign up under them and each one has a different pricetag . first ... you get the books , teach on your own and YOU keep the recordss . second ... you get the books , you teach , they keep records . ... third .... i dont remember . we did this for 2 years and the service [ we did full service , meaning they kept the records , had we finished with them , the kids would have recieved a highschool diploma at the end and transcripts ] . was excellent . no complaints . they have done this for YEARS and know what they are doing . calvert is a full service program , rather expensive , secular , good .... just too expensive for most people i have known .

 

4. your own philosophy on teaching will determine which way you choose to go , what books to use , if a satelite school , how to homeschool ... etc . i have a friend who used 4 H material exclusively and did nothing else . her kids did projects for the fairs and she did very well with that . her method would have driven me insane !!! you need to determine WHAT you want to teach , what goals to archieve and HOW are you going to get there .

 

5. the homeschool laws in every state a different . what works here in florida does not work in .... california or any other state . HSLDA can get you in contact with homeschoolers in your own state and also give you the legal requirements of your own state and how you can fulfill them . contact them .

 

6 . there is an awesome resourse out there , that ought to fit most members of this group . very ecclectic approach to homeschooling and if followed as intended bringing excellent results

 

http://www.robinsoncurriculum.com/

 

i would say ... check it out and tell them that i send you , but i have been out of it for soo long , i doubt anyone will remember me . the whole curriculum is on cds for a very VERY nomional price , considering that all 12 grades are included -- except math . i still have my cds !! we did this for the last part of our schooling . what i like about this program is , that it teaches kids to learn ON THEIR OWN , rather than sitting there , being spoonfed and learning what someone else thinks is important . it reminds me of the parable of the fisherman . if you give a man a fish , you will feed him for one day . if you teach him how to fish , you will feed him for life . teach a child to learn on their own and they will have a desire to learn for themselves and have an easier time to learn . i HIGHLY recommend this program !!!!! they also have a , you can join and ask questions . its called robinsonusers4christ .

 

for the most part you do not have to be a treacher in order to teach your own children UNLESS your particular state has some requirement on the laws that apply to everyone . if you contact HSLDA you should ask if they are aware of any local homeschool supportgroup ., they will be your greatest asset , as they can help you with state mandated requierements , morale support , fieldtrips , cheap used books , social interactions -- etc etc etc . sometimes supportgroups even meet for classes on specific subjects . my kids went for 2 years to a class taught by a creation scientist . BIG TIME smart , highly educated scientist . she taught highschool science . biology , general scveince and ???? and a class for middleschoolers . my kids learned sooo much !!! they loved this teacher . her name was catie frates

 

A-Z_Classifieds/message/24369

 

http://www.fusionwebdesigns.com/web_sites/heed2/classes.html

 

i gave you these two links ... one is a writeyup on caties creddentials , the other is ,.... what homeschoolers can do , if they work together and network . these are classes my kids took . i drove 1 1/2 hrs EACH way every week , just so they could do this . to this day they still talk about catie , and mine are now in their twenties .

 

 

as homeschoolers you have many choices . the most important one to make first , is learn what is out there [ HSLDA } . then choose what type of teaching you want to do [ what kind of leaner is your child , what does he want to learn ] and what can you afford . homeschooling can be expensive . if you map out your way before you start ... you can make anything possible . florida now has an online highschool , where highschoolers can take classes free of charge . i have friends who had their kids take exclusive classes like latin or advanced mathclasses -- subjects that they didnt feel comfortable with . you have to be diligent in your perssuit . and once you have chosen a particular waay , dont be swayed , if you are convinced that it is right for you ! i have one friend who was perfectly hapy with her mathprogram , then she went to a homeschool conference and everybody went to a particular demonstration . because the others were excited about this new math , she felt peerpresssured into buying this program as well . she and her children were soo unhappy with this new program and she regretted having abandond the old mathprogram .

 

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my homeschooling is over . am i happy with my choices ?? what are my afterthoughts ??

 

i loved having my kids home and teaching them . i loved the orneryness of being an independent thinker and doing things my way . i really dislike conformity . i wish someone had told me about the different learning approaches at the very beginnig . it would have helped me and alliviated regrets , because i feel like i could have done a better job . i also learned that not every program works the same for every child . i love robinson curriculum , but i now see , that for my children , i should have insisted on more involvement , rather than the hands-off approach so insisted upon by dr robinson . my kids needed more guidance , but i withheld it as i wanted to follow " instructions " . listen to your children !!! i regret not having done so much more . i also wish , i had taught my CHILDREN more ... rather than teach a PROGRAM . there is a difference . i have regrets , i have missed opportunities .. i have materials i bought and never used ... i was tooo busy teaching programs rather than teaching MY KIDS .

 

in the end ... i had my kids home all their years . i kept them safe . i do want to believe that i taught them better than any public school could have done . i do have smart kids .... my son came to me not too long ago , thanking me for homeschooling him and keeping him out of public school . to me that is priceless . he will be 23 .

 

 

oohh and one last thing !!! start early to think about college . there are often stateprograms out there , that will pay for college , but you have to work on it from early on . florida has a bright futures scholarship . but if you do not start working on it in middle school , you will miss out !

 

 

MARANATHA !

 

gabriele --- who misses her kids,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

gcliburn

 

 

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Kristen~

 

It depends on what state you are in as to the regulations for homeschooling. Some states do require that you are a teacher (or are under a teacher) while others don't. www.hslda.org has all the state laws/regulations (as well as tons of information).

 

Homeschooling can be as formal or informal as you like~ whatever works for your family. Here in Texas, there are virtually no restrictions on homeschooling, so we answer to no one (no standardized testing, etc.)

 

I believe it is Extremely beneficial to children to be homeschooled. Not everyone can (or should) homeschool, but the majority of children (IMO) can successfully be educated at home. I see homeschooling as more of a lifestyle than a form of education though... In a perfect world, all families would have one parent at home full time and be able to parent/mentor/guide/teach their own children instead of letting the government (or private schools) do it.

 

Yes, it does change children~ for the Better! My 2 oldest (26 & 24) have graduated from homeschool high school, and loved being homeschooled. My oldest went on to college for awhile before getting married (to a homeschool graduate who went on to the Air Force and is currently taking college classes as well). My 2nd oldest works full time for a local internet company doing things he "shouldn't know how to do" without formal technical schooling (DH taught him tons about computers, programming, internet, etc.)

 

My next one, 19, graduates very soon here, and plans to go on to school for photography. She was Painfully shy when young, so homeschooling gave her the security and basics to grow into a beautiful strong young woman. Public school would have been a Disaster for her. My 4th child is 17 and wants to go on to school and go into business. He's extremely interested in music, so plans to have a recording studio eventually. Both he & my 19 yr old work at Chick-Fil-A part time (during school hours I may add ;-)). He didn't learn to read until he was 7.5 years old (he was grade level in math though)... had he been in public school he would have been labeled "special ed" and who knows where he'd be now. Homeschooling gave us the flexiblity to work with him at his own pace, and when it "clicked" it really clicked~ and he was up to grade level in reading within a year. The rest of my kids aren't sure what they want to do yet, but they are all unique little individuals with big dreams. :-)

 

It's easy in this day & age to avoid isolation when you're homeschooling. Nearly everywhere there are homeschool coops, phys ed classes at YMCAs (or elsewhere), homeschool support groups, groups that do field trips, church groups, etc. Homeschooling now is Very different than we started out 18 years ago.

 

There are some people who homeschool out of fear, and IMO that's not a good reason for homeschooling. Sheltering your children is one thing, but overprotecting them to the point that they can't function is another.

 

HTH~

Jan G.

Mom to 9, breastfeeding advocate

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Home schooling, IF DONE WELL, can easily be a hundred times better than public school.

 

But it is not for everyone. We tried it with our son in grade 9. Basically none of us had the right mix of time and self discipline to get it right.

A. went back to regular school a few months into grade 10. Fortunately he had his growth spurt during the home year, and no longer looked like the little sensitive shrimp that was a prime

target for bullies.

 

IF it is done well, homeschooling is superb. But it takes a lot, and I know some fuzzy hippie types who basically let the kids flounder around, in the vague hope that the kids will somehow pull themselves together.

 

Most teachers I know work hard and are hampered by having to be all things to all people. And we won't even talk about the damage done by the psychology industry......

 

Ien in the Kootenayshttp://freegreenliving.com (blog)

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Home schooled kids are among the best and worst educated. It really depends on whether they are home schooled, or just home from school.You will have to check with your state, but generally, to home school, you need to check with your state's department on non-public education (here in NC, it is the NCDNPE), and register as a school. Once you do that, and get the permit to operate a non-public school, you may legally run a home school. Here, you must do some sort of standardized test every year, (We use the California Achievement Test), and submit the results to the DNPE annually. They also have the right to inspect the school with 1 or 2 days notice. We have not been inspected, nor is it likely we will be, because our children get excellent results from the CAT

tests.If they do an inspection, the things that they can ask for are: 1- attendance, 2- curriculum, 3- some demonstration of work accomplished. Most of these things are easy to document as you go. Your state's rules and regulations may differ.-Doug Greenekristen cook <kristen.cookherbal remedies Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 9:29:02 PMRe: {Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times

better than public school.

 

I know this isn't a home schooling site, so forgive this question and feel free to email me offline at kristen.cook@ if you have an answer...

If I am not a teacher, so is it out of the question for us to homeschool? How does homeschooling work? Is it beneficial to the kids, or does it tend to change who they are socially... as in.. more of an isolation, fear of social settings... etc.

Sounds like a silly question, perhaps. But the only kids I know that were homeschooled were my cousins. A brother and sister who's mom kept them home and homeschooled them. They are currently still at home in hospital beds (in their young 30's). Both with back and neck problems addicted to pain pumps. They tried going out into the world and crumbled.

But I also don't want to disregard my homeschooling interest based on their outcome.

Any suggestions/ guidance would be appreciated. My little ones are 4 and 1.

Thanks!! Kristen--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Kris Davidson <bradandkris@ comcast.net> wrote:

Kris Davidson <bradandkris@ comcast.net>{Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.herbal remediesSunday, January 4, 2009, 5:46 PM

 

 

 

Jaynee-

South of Detroit, on the Detroit River just before it dumps into Lake Erie.

Kris

 

 

 

Thanks, Kris, for your story. What part of Michigan are you from? I was in the thumb area (Metro Detroit through Port Huron).-- Jaynee

[Guest guest]

Just a word of

advice.................do your research on H$LDA. Their

agenda may not be yours. I have been very active in the

homeschooling community for 14 years. I have graduated 3 children,

will graduate another in May and have one more to go. I have

NEVER belonged to H$LDA as I am against any organization that uses fear

mongering to increase their ranks. Here is a site with very good

info

http://hsislegal.com/

 

HTH,

Leslie Montemayor

 

 

At 11:45 PM 1/4/2009, you wrote:

 

 

 

good evening ...

 

i have not followed the homeschool thread ... as i did not really want to

start something else i had to ' follow " . life has been quite

stressful lately and i did not want anything extra that i had to "

tend to " .

 

i have homeschooled in excess of 16 years , 3 kids . looking at starting

over this coming summer with the first grandchild . yes , my kids where

taught right ... but in the end the choices they are making are

ultimately their own . LOOOOONG story on that one !!

 

IF you are seriously considering homeschooling , i would HIGHLY recommend

joining HSLDA [ homeschoollegal defense association ] it cost a little ,

i think around 125 $ - the last time i heard it , but this can have

changed .

 

second , go to

 

 

http://www.greenleafpress.com/bb/viewforum.php?f=3

 

and

 

http://www.elijahcompany.com/

 

 

 

Leslie Montemayor

We worry about what a child will be tomorrow, yet we forget that he

is someone today.

Stacie Tauscher

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are

willing to work, and give to those who would not. -- Thomas

Jefferson

" Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's

character, give him power.

- Abraham Lincoln

[Guest guest]

while I generally support the reason for labor unions when it comes to ''REQUIRING'' that licensed teachers home school children, this is to put it in most polite terms...

 

A DISGUSTING SCAM BY THE TEACHERS UNIONS FOR JOB PRESERVATION

 

it is dishonest beyond words and imagination and shows a momumental lack of ethics within the profession.

 

ANY TEACHER who claims that a parent can not better educate their child at home is

a. a liar

b. incompetent and uninformed about how home schooled kids actually do.

 

sad how people lie for money... and wrapping one's self up in their "professional credentials" in no way lessens the lie. it makes it far worse.

 

I found that the public school systems took license with childrens minds

indoctrinated them in terms of shoving homosexuality down their throats

intimidated them with radical "environmentalism"

and shamed them into complying with other's belief systems

 

sort of reminds one of those Vietnamese "retraining" camps..

 

ahhh a fascist is a fascist by any name.

 

Mike T.

[Guest guest]

Kristen, I home educate my two teens, and I think it is wise that you

consider it even though the outcome of your cousins was not good. For

many of us, our kids are extremely well socialised (my 14yo daughter is

on a 10 day Scout camp as I speak, which she saved the $1000 for out of

her income from a part time job) and the quality of education can be

excellent- depends though, of course, on the parent's attitude! Its

really up to the parent if they isolate or overprotect their kids, but

homeschooling also gives opportunities in the community that kids in

school just cant access, or don't have time for. Many of us have

commented it should be called " world schooling " because the kids are not

locked up in school all day, they are interacting with the community.

The lifestyle of homeschooling is just the best and I feel very blessed

to have been able to do it.

love Peela in Australia

 

<<<<If I am not a teacher, so is it out of the question for us to

homeschool? How does homeschooling work? Is it beneficial to the kids,

or does it tend to change who they are socially... as in.. more of an

isolation, fear of social settings... etc. >>>>

[Guest guest]

Our state's rules are much easier to follow than yours as there is virtually no oversight.

I would not live in NC because of their draconian home school rules. I am aware of them because I have a cousin who lives there and

homeschooled one year before moving back to Ohio where we have much more freedom.

I guess many might say my kids are just "home from school" as we do not "do school". I am against "doing school" as it is not part of my

philosophy of learning. My kids are educated, mannerly, and capable young people who are much more capable than most of their public-schooled

peers. My kids can make change from a transaction without a calculator and they know how to bake bread, make dinner, do laundry, sew on a button, and many other life skills most people take for granted. You'd be surprised how many of my kids' peers cannot do these things. Pancakes come out of a box, either frozen or from the breakfast aisle, bacon is microwaved to warm, and dinner is either boxed ro bought from a restaurant.

It is amazing how ignorant this generation is about the most basic of skills.

 

Lori

Schooling is not education, and education is not schooling~John Taylor Gatto

 

 

herbal remedies From: greenedoDate: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 06:43:07 -0800Re: {Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.

 

 

 

 

Home schooled kids are among the best and worst educated. It really depends on whether they are home schooled, or just home from school.You will have to check with your state, but generally, to home school, you need to check with your state's department on non-public education (here in NC, it is the NCDNPE), and register as a school. Once you do that, and get the permit to operate a non-public school, you may legally run a home school. Here, you must do some sort of standardized test every year, (We use the California Achievement Test), and submit the results to the DNPE annually. They also have the right to inspect the school with 1 or 2 days notice. We have not been inspected, nor is it likely we will be, because our children get excellent results from the CAT tests.If they do an inspection, the things that they can ask for are: 1- attendance, 2- curriculum, 3- some demonstration of work accomplished. Most of these things are easy to document as you go. Your state's rules and regulations may differ.-Doug Greene

 

 

 

kristen cook <kristen.cook >herbal remedies Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 9:29:02 PMRe: {Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know this isn't a home schooling site, so forgive this question and feel free to email me offline at kristen.cook@ if you have an answer...

If I am not a teacher, so is it out of the question for us to homeschool? How does homeschooling work? Is it beneficial to the kids, or does it tend to change who they are socially... as in.. more of an isolation, fear of social settings... etc.

Sounds like a silly question, perhaps. But the only kids I know that were homeschooled were my cousins. A brother and sister who's mom kept them home and homeschooled them. They are currently still at home in hospital beds (in their young 30's). Both with back and neck problems addicted to pain pumps. They tried going out into the world and crumbled.

But I also don't want to disregard my homeschooling interest based on their outcome.

Any suggestions/ guidance would be appreciated. My little ones are 4 and 1.

Thanks!! Kristen--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Kris Davidson <bradandkris@ comcast.net> wrote:

Kris Davidson <bradandkris@ comcast.net>{Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.herbal remediesSunday, January 4, 2009, 5:46 PM

 

 

 

Jaynee-

South of Detroit, on the Detroit River just before it dumps into Lake Erie.

Kris

 

 

 

Thanks, Kris, for your story. What part of Michigan are you from? I was in the thumb area (Metro Detroit through Port Huron).-- Jaynee

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Doug Greene wrote:

 

Home schooled kids are among the best and worst educated. It really depends on whether they are home schooled, or just home from school.

LOL. Exactly what I was trying to say.

Beautifully put.

[Guest guest]

Respected Sir,

 

Such kind of thinking in the society will definitily appreciable.

What ever you have done for your homeschooled five kids just continue with same spirit for the welfare of the society, how to serve the society with your services, how to save the nature.

 

With Regards,

Vankim Chander

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My wife and i homeschooled our 5 kids for over 20 years and they did great! Two of them are in med school and my daughter is a nurse. The other 2 own a computer business. You need a sponsoring teacher too verify you are legit and there are tons of materials out there too help you! Good Luck!Whatever it is -- I didn't do it! --- On Sun, 1/4/09, kristen cook <kristen.cook@ > wrote:

kristen cook <kristen.cook@ >Re: {Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.herbal remediesSunday, January 4, 2009, 8:29 PM

 

 

 

 

 

I know this isn't a home schooling site, so forgive this question and feel free to email me offline at kristen.cook@ if you have an answer...

If I am not a teacher, so is it out of the question for us to homeschool? How does homeschooling work? Is it beneficial to the kids, or does it tend to change who they are socially... as in.. more of an isolation, fear of social settings... etc.

Sounds like a silly question, perhaps. But the only kids I know that were homeschooled were my cousins. A brother and sister who's mom kept them home and homeschooled them. They are currently still at home in hospital beds (in their young 30's). Both with back and neck problems addicted to pain pumps. They tried going out into the world and crumbled.

But I also don't want to disregard my homeschooling interest based on their outcome.

Any suggestions/ guidance would be appreciated. My little ones are 4 and 1.

Thanks!! Kristen--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Kris Davidson <bradandkris@ comcast.net> wrote:

Kris Davidson <bradandkris@ comcast.net>{Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.herbal remediesSunday, January 4, 2009, 5:46 PM

 

 

 

Jaynee-

South of Detroit, on the Detroit River just before it dumps into Lake Erie.

Kris

 

 

 

Thanks, Kris, for your story. What part of Michigan are you from? I was in the thumb area (Metro Detroit through Port Huron).-- Jaynee

Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now.

[Guest guest]

Loved your answer as I could have written it! Many things very similar to our family and homeschool journey.

 

LoriSchooling is not education, and education is not schooling~John Taylor Gatto

 

 

herbal remedies From: jgonzDate: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:05:11 -0700Re: {Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.

 

 

 

Kristen~

 

It depends on what state you are in as to the regulations for homeschooling. Some states do require that you are a teacher (or are under a teacher) while others don't. www.hslda.org has all the state laws/regulations (as well as tons of information).

 

Homeschooling can be as formal or informal as you like~ whatever works for your family. Here in Texas, there are virtually no restrictions on homeschooling, so we answer to no one (no standardized testing, etc.)

 

I believe it is Extremely beneficial to children to be homeschooled. Not everyone can (or should) homeschool, but the majority of children (IMO) can successfully be educated at home. I see homeschooling as more of a lifestyle than a form of education though... In a perfect world, all families would have one parent at home full time and be able to parent/mentor/guide/teach their own children instead of letting the government (or private schools) do it.

 

Yes, it does change children~ for the Better! My 2 oldest (26 & 24) have graduated from homeschool high school, and loved being homeschooled. My oldest went on to college for awhile before getting married (to a homeschool graduate who went on to the Air Force and is currently taking college classes as well). My 2nd oldest works full time for a local internet company doing things he "shouldn't know how to do" without formal technical schooling (DH taught him tons about computers, programming, internet, etc.)

 

My next one, 19, graduates very soon here, and plans to go on to school for photography. She was Painfully shy when young, so homeschooling gave her the security and basics to grow into a beautiful strong young woman. Public school would have been a Disaster for her. My 4th child is 17 and wants to go on to school and go into business. He's extremely interested in music, so plans to have a recording studio eventually. Both he & my 19 yr old work at Chick-Fil-A part time (during school hours I may add ;-)). He didn't learn to read until he was 7.5 years old (he was grade level in math though)... had he been in public school he would have been labeled "special ed" and who knows where he'd be now. Homeschooling gave us the flexiblity to work with him at his own pace, and when it "clicked" it really clicked~ and he was up to grade level in reading within a year. The rest of my kids aren't sure what they want to do yet, but they are all unique little individuals with big dreams. :-)

 

It's easy in this day & age to avoid isolation when you're homeschooling. Nearly everywhere there are homeschool coops, phys ed classes at YMCAs (or elsewhere), homeschool support groups, groups that do field trips, church groups, etc. Homeschooling now is Very different than we started out 18 years ago.

 

There are some people who homeschool out of fear, and IMO that's not a good reason for homeschooling. Sheltering your children is one thing, but overprotecting them to the point that they can't function is another.

 

HTH~

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We don't have any problem complying with NC home-school regulations. We had a friend that was "home schooled" - but essentially his parents had him home to run errands, do housework, and play video games. When he was ready to go off to college, he couldn't pass the entrance exam. He had not had any math, reading, writing or much of anything else from about 5th grade on. He had to spend over a year in remedial courses to get him up to the level he needed to be at in order to start at the community college.Conversely, our children have started community college at 16 under the NC "dual enrollment" program, and then gone away to school at 18 with 4-5 semesters under their belts as juniors.We have some friends who home-schooled their eldest through 6th or 7th

grade. She went to public school, then fell in with some bad friends and ended up dropping out. Years later, she got her GED (with no further education) and entered college without problems. A couple years ago, my wife pulled my son out of public school and worked with him for a year to try to get him up to grade level, and was discouraged (because he was rather resistant to learning). When he went back in, she found that he had gone up two grade levels in one year. During the next year in public school, he learned little to nothing. He is back at home this year, and doing better.People like to say that home schooled kids don't get the socialization. My experience in school of "socialization" was not necessarily positive. My eldest daughter has Asberger's and was being labeled as "stupid" because it took her 2-3 times as long to accomplish a task. This "stupid" girl 3 years later, was at the

community college where in 61 credits she only got 2 Bs, everything else was an A. As to socialization - she had become withdrawn, sullen, and depressed. Her Gymnastics teacher noticed an immediate improvement. Instead of telling her, "you have a learning disability, so we don't expect you to succeed" we said, "if something is harder for you, that means you need to work harder at it." She took this to heart, and is now a senior at a private university on their biggest available scholarship.My second eldest would often sneak off from the syllabus, and curl up with a novel (or ten). She eventually would get the opportunity to read as a reward for being up on her syllabus. She's now a sophomore at the community college with a 3.82 GPA. She's been accepted to the same private university on a major scholarship.As to what kind of home education is best for you and your children, that will have to be

determined by you. There are some ages and some programs that may be better suited to public indoctrination - er, education, than home schooling. But generally, you as a parent can look closer at what the child needs to know, and how they learn, and tailor the education program to them. *stepping off the soapbox*-Doug GreeneLori Smith <homeschoolmom42Bryan Schillington <herbal_remedies >Monday, January 5, 2009 5:54:37

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Our state's rules are much easier to follow than yours as there is virtually no oversight.

I would not live in NC because of their draconian home school rules. I am aware of them because I have a cousin who lives there and

homeschooled one year before moving back to Ohio where we have much more freedom.

I guess many might say my kids are just "home from school" as we do not "do school". I am against "doing school" as it is not part of my

philosophy of learning. My kids are educated, mannerly, and capable young people who are much more capable than most of their public-schooled

peers. My kids can make change from a transaction without a calculator and they know how to bake bread, make dinner, do laundry, sew on a button, and many other life skills most people take for granted. You'd be surprised how many of my kids' peers cannot do these things. Pancakes come out of a box, either frozen or from the breakfast aisle, bacon is microwaved to warm, and dinner is either boxed ro bought from a restaurant.

It is amazing how ignorant this generation is about the most basic of skills.

 

Lori

Schooling is not education, and education is not schooling~John Taylor Gatto

 

 

herbal remediesgreenedo Mon, 5 Jan 2009 06:43:07 -0800Re: {Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.

 

 

 

 

Home schooled kids are among the best and worst educated. It really depends on whether they are home schooled, or just home from school.You will have to check with your state, but generally, to home school, you need to check with your state's department on non-public education (here in NC, it is the NCDNPE), and register as a school. Once you do that, and get the permit to operate a non-public school, you may legally run a home school. Here, you must do some sort of standardized test every year, (We use the California Achievement Test), and submit the results to the DNPE annually. They also have the right to inspect the school with 1 or 2 days notice. We have not been inspected, nor is it likely we will be, because our children get excellent results from the CAT tests.If they do an inspection, the things that they can ask for are: 1- attendance, 2- curriculum, 3- some demonstration of work

accomplished. Most of these things are easy to document as you go. Your state's rules and regulations may differ.-Doug Greene

 

 

 

kristen cook <kristen.cook@ >herbal remediesSunday, January 4, 2009 9:29:02 PMRe: {Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know this isn't a home schooling site, so forgive this question and feel free to email me offline at kristen.cook@ if you have an answer...

If I am not a teacher, so is it out of the question for us to homeschool? How does homeschooling work? Is it beneficial to the kids, or does it tend to change who they are socially... as in.. more of an isolation, fear of social settings... etc.

Sounds like a silly question, perhaps. But the only kids I know that were homeschooled were my cousins. A brother and sister who's mom kept them home and homeschooled them. They are currently still at home in hospital beds (in their young 30's). Both with back and neck problems addicted to pain pumps. They tried going out into the world and crumbled.

But I also don't want to disregard my homeschooling interest based on their outcome.

Any suggestions/ guidance would be appreciated. My little ones are 4 and 1.

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Kris Davidson <bradandkris@ comcast.net>{Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.herbal remediesSunday, January 4, 2009, 5:46 PM

 

 

 

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South of Detroit, on the Detroit River just before it dumps into Lake Erie.

Kris

 

 

 

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We homeschooled because of the rotten ideologies that Ohio has d to, specifically Oucomes Based Education (OBE) that the state adopted in 1991. I do believe that most, if not all states have adopted in OBE. This is a values-based curricula and not an academic one. Its main purpose is to change the way individuals think (we can see how schools change society by how the values and mores have changed over the years), and I was tired of quasi-education posing as true education.

We had a son in 10th grade who had to memorize 50 dates and 50 wars/battles and know which dated went with which battles, but there was no teaching of said battles, no discussion of what, where, when, or why these battles occured, but by golly, he ha dto pass that test in order to keep his grades up. This is NOT education! But these battles/dates were on the history portion of the OGT (mandated state test) so it was being "taught". Rubbish.

As homeschoolers, we were not isolationists. We are a social people, live in a small city (pop 50,000), have plenty of neighbors, and live within walking distance of the library, several museums, and just about anything else you can imagine. My kids often walked or biked the bike trail. They were involved in a local children's community theater, involved in youth group at church, 4-H, and library teen programs. No, they were definitely not isolated!

Someone else posted how their kids worked during school hours, mine did/do, too. My kids were a part fo the community, not isolated from their community by being locked up in a school all day. Ho wis it real socialization when you lock 25-30 kids up in a classroom with everyone of the same age? This is what causes peer dependency. Real socialization is when one socializes with people of all ages, from babies to the elderly on a regular basis. When kids are forced to only socialize with their peers, they become peer-dependent and isolated from real social skills. This is what causes the so-called "generation gap". My kids do not have "generation gap" ideas. My kids feel comfortable talking and being with people of all ages. Do they think anyone over 30 is ancient? of course! But do they avoid them? No. At work, my kids have worked with people from their age to 60's and they get along with all. The important thing is to respect your own child/young person. Some of my kids were painfully shy when young, but all have blosomed and come out of their shell in their mid-late teens.

 

Homeschooling is beneficial to kids when you have a close family setting, love, respect, and caring. It obvious would nto work well in a situation where you had abusive parents, but then, I do not see abusive parents wanting to spend all of their time with their kids, so the idea that abusive parents homeschool is almost ludicrous (it is a very rare phenomenon). Homeschooling may not be for everyone, but it is viable for most everyone.

 

I think that the majority of the people on this site believe in personal responsibility, freedoms held under our constitution, and that means the freedom to self-medicate, to seek alternative health practitioners, and the ability to make the right educational choices for their families, whether homeschooling, private or public, or even boarding school (yes, they still exist). Parents should have the ultimate choice in where, how, and when a child will be educated, not the government.

 

And if you think homeschooling is radical, please check out these two schools:

 

http://www.albanyfreeschool.com/overview.shtml

http://www.summerhillschool.co.uk/

 

In these schools, kids have the freedom to learn or not to learn. I do not agree with all the philospohy behind these schools, but I can appreciate the fact that those who attend these schools come out better socialized and better educated than those who come out of most public schools.

 

LoriSchooling is not education, and education is not schooling~John Taylor Gatto

 

 

herbal remedies From: kristen.cookDate: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:29:02 -0800Re: {Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know this isn't a home schooling site, so forgive this question and feel free to email me offline at kristen.cook if you have an answer...

If I am not a teacher, so is it out of the question for us to homeschool? How does homeschooling work? Is it beneficial to the kids, or does it tend to change who they are socially... as in.. more of an isolation, fear of social settings... etc.

Sounds like a silly question, perhaps. But the only kids I know that were homeschooled were my cousins. A brother and sister who's mom kept them home and homeschooled them. They are currently still at home in hospital beds (in their young 30's). Both with back and neck problems addicted to pain pumps. They tried going out into the world and crumbled.

But I also don't want to disregard my homeschooling interest based on their outcome.

Any suggestions/guidance would be appreciated. My little ones are 4 and 1.

Thanks!! Kristen--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Kris Davidson <bradandkris (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Kris Davidson <bradandkris (AT) comcast (DOT) net>{Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.herbal remedies Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 5:46 PM

 

 

 

Jaynee-

South of Detroit, on the Detroit River just before it dumps into Lake Erie.

Kris

 

 

 

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Thank you to everyone for your input.

GREAT info. Thank you so much. I think ahead ... so really appreciate the college tips and your reflection on what you would've done differently. I am filing these responses to help me get started. So much great info.

Thanks again!!

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gabriele <gcliburnRe: {Herbal Remedies} Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.herbal remedies Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 11:45 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

good evening ...

 

i have not followed the homeschool thread ... as i did not really want to start something else i had to ' follow " . life has been quite stressful lately and i did not want anything extra that i had to " tend to " .

 

i have homeschooled in excess of 16 years , 3 kids . looking at starting over this coming summer with the first grandchild . yes , my kids where taught right ... but in the end the choices they are making are ultimately their own . LOOOOONG story on that one !!

 

IF you are seriously considering homeschooling , i would HIGHLY recommend joining HSLDA [ homeschoollegal defense association ] it cost a little , i think around 125 $ - the last time i heard it , but this can have changed .

 

second , go to

 

http://www.greenlea fpress.com/ bb/viewforum. php?f=3

 

and

 

http://www.elijahco mpany.com/

 

i do not remember which one it was , but you could order both catalougs and do the research yourself . ONE of the two had an AWESOME !!! writeup on different schooling approaches [ in their cataloug ] , that i wish someone had pointed me to when i first started out . [[ remember , i am writing about this from memory , which is foggy ]] ... but they had all the approaches listed ,i.e classical approach , charlotte mason .... etc . and you could compare them and choose which one you want to use . looking at it from a backward point of view ,gives you the opportunity to decide what you want to teach , how you want to come to " your end " and what is important to you . i personnally am more for a classical approach , lots of reading and classsic literature but i do not like to be hindered by too many and too tight boundaries . there is CALVERT school , which does classical ,and they are very good AND very expensive [ if you have

moere than one child ] but VERY structured . and i dont like that ! . anyway , order their catalouges , both have some of the best materials out there , and i HIGHLY recomend anything they are selling !! they are very picky in their choices and you will not find anything questionable in their lineup .

 

3., mary pride wrote a set of books on homeschooling [ have NO CLUE if they have been updated , since i first bought them all these many years ago ] ,,,, but they had one and all info on homeschooling you could wish for or think about !!

 

4 . there is more than one way to skin a cat -- or in this case homeschool !!! there are longdistance schools out there , like calvert , christian liberty , to name a few , where you are considered a satelite school ,. christian liberty has several choices of how you can sign up under them and each one has a different pricetag . first ... you get the books , teach on your own and YOU keep the recordss . second ... you get the books , you teach , they keep records . ... third .... i dont remember . we did this for 2 years and the service [ we did full service , meaning they kept the records , had we finished with them , the kids would have recieved a highschool diploma at the end and transcripts ] . was excellent . no complaints . they have done this for YEARS and know what they are doing . calvert is a full service program , rather expensive , secular , good .... just too expensive for most people i have known .

 

4. your own philosophy on teaching will determine which way you choose to go , what books to use , if a satelite school , how to homeschool ... etc . i have a friend who used 4 H material exclusively and did nothing else . her kids did projects for the fairs and she did very well with that . her method would have driven me insane !!! you need to determine WHAT you want to teach , what goals to archieve and HOW are you going to get there .

 

5. the homeschool laws in every state a different . what works here in florida does not work in .... california or any other state . HSLDA can get you in contact with homeschoolers in your own state and also give you the legal requirements of your own state and how you can fulfill them . contact them .

 

6 . there is an awesome resourse out there , that ought to fit most members of this group . very ecclectic approach to homeschooling and if followed as intended bringing excellent results

 

http://www.robinson curriculum. com/

 

i would say ... check it out and tell them that i send you , but i have been out of it for soo long , i doubt anyone will remember me . the whole curriculum is on cds for a very VERY nomional price , considering that all 12 grades are included -- except math . i still have my cds !! we did this for the last part of our schooling . what i like about this program is , that it teaches kids to learn ON THEIR OWN , rather than sitting there , being spoonfed and learning what someone else thinks is important . it reminds me of the parable of the fisherman . if you give a man a fish , you will feed him for one day . if you teach him how to fish , you will feed him for life . teach a child to learn on their own and they will have a desire to learn for themselves and have an easier time to learn . i HIGHLY recommend this program !!!!! they also have a , you can join and ask questions . its called robinsonusers4chris t

..

 

for the most part you do not have to be a treacher in order to teach your own children UNLESS your particular state has some requirement on the laws that apply to everyone . if you contact HSLDA you should ask if they are aware of any local homeschool supportgroup ., they will be your greatest asset , as they can help you with state mandated requierements , morale support , fieldtrips , cheap used books , social interactions -- etc etc etc . sometimes supportgroups even meet for classes on specific subjects . my kids went for 2 years to a class taught by a creation scientist . BIG TIME smart , highly educated scientist . she taught highschool science . biology , general scveince and ???? and a class for middleschoolers . my kids learned sooo much !!! they loved this teacher . her name was catie frates

 

http://groups. / group/A-Z_ Classifieds/ message/24369

 

http://www.fusionwe bdesigns. com/web_sites/ heed2/classes. html

 

i gave you these two links ... one is a writeyup on caties creddentials , the other is ,.... what homeschoolers can do , if they work together and network . these are classes my kids took . i drove 1 1/2 hrs EACH way every week , just so they could do this . to this day they still talk about catie , and mine are now in their twenties .

 

 

as homeschoolers you have many choices . the most important one to make first , is learn what is out there [ HSLDA } . then choose what type of teaching you want to do [ what kind of leaner is your child , what does he want to learn ] and what can you afford . homeschooling can be expensive . if you map out your way before you start ... you can make anything possible . florida now has an online highschool , where highschoolers can take classes free of charge . i have friends who had their kids take exclusive classes like latin or advanced mathclasses -- subjects that they didnt feel comfortable with . you have to be diligent in your perssuit . and once you have chosen a particular waay , dont be swayed , if you are convinced that it is right for you ! i have one friend who was perfectly hapy with her mathprogram , then she went to a homeschool conference and everybody went to a particular demonstration

. because the others were excited about this new math , she felt peerpresssured into buying this program as well . she and her children were soo unhappy with this new program and she regretted having abandond the old mathprogram .

 

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my homeschooling is over . am i happy with my choices ?? what are my afterthoughts ??

 

i loved having my kids home and teaching them . i loved the orneryness of being an independent thinker and doing things my way . i really dislike conformity . i wish someone had told me about the different learning approaches at the very beginnig . it would have helped me and alliviated regrets , because i feel like i could have done a better job . i also learned that not every program works the same for every child . i love robinson curriculum , but i now see , that for my children , i should have insisted on more involvement , rather than the hands-off approach so insisted upon by dr robinson . my kids needed more guidance , but i withheld it as i wanted to follow " instructions " . listen to your children !!! i regret not having done so much more . i also wish , i had taught my CHILDREN more ... rather than teach a PROGRAM . there is a difference . i have regrets , i have missed opportunities .. i have materials i bought and

never used ... i was tooo busy teaching programs rather than teaching MY KIDS .

 

in the end ... i had my kids home all their years . i kept them safe . i do want to believe that i taught them better than any public school could have done . i do have smart kids .... my son came to me not too long ago , thanking me for homeschooling him and keeping him out of public school . to me that is priceless . he will be 23 .

 

 

oohh and one last thing !!! start early to think about college . there are often stateprograms out there , that will pay for college , but you have to work on it from early on . florida has a bright futures scholarship . but if you do not start working on it in middle school , you will miss out !

 

 

MARANATHA !

 

gabriele --- who misses her kids,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,

gcliburn (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com

 

 

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We're going through some difficult time right now with our 14 yr old daughter. She has struggled in school for a while now. Now she is a freshman in high school. I feel so helpless and frustrated at the same time. She was labeled with ADD back in 3rd grade. We don't have her on medication and wouldn't. She struggles in school and now to the point she is always upset and stressed. She can't keep up with the assignments and always has missing work. She's almost failing all of her classes right now. My husband and I both work, but I do work from home. I'm able to help her some if I were home, but with my work, I probably don't have the time to devote to her that she would need. She's not a self motivator at all. I'm afraid if I were to bring her home and sit her to do her work, she wouldn't do it. I'm not a teacher either and quite frankly, I didn't do well in school either, so I probably couldn't even teach her.

 

Are there other options for us? Can a program be done part time at home and part time at school? Does anyone have any suggestions for our situation? We're all frustrated and I fear she will struggle for the next 3 years and possibly not even graduate.

 

Robin

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There are several things you should examine:1- What are the laws on homeschooling in your area?2- What will happen if she stays in school?3- What are her long-term plans?4- What time can you/she devote to the homeshooling?Our eldest daughter was diagnosed as AD/HF (Attention Deficit / Hyper Focused) in 6th grade, she started getting behind in school, her grades started dropping, and with puberty to make it all more exciting, she was a wreck. She would stay up until midnight or one am trying to get her work done, then get up early in the morning. The sleep deprivation, coupled with the frustration, coupled with puberty was making her think she was stupid, worthless, and making her a pain to live with.We pulled her out to homeschool her, and the change was

dramatic. Since she started getting sleep at night, she was far more pleasant to live with. My wife took time with her to explain the things she was having difficulty with. She started as someone with some motivation, but a lot of frustration. My wife also did not let her use her diagnosis as an excuse (it turns out that when someone with a little more competence did a more in-depth evaluation, they found that she has an autistic spectrum disorder - Asberger's syndrome). My wife would tell her, "if it's harder for you, you need to work harder at it."This worked well for us. She is now 20, and a senior at a 4-year university. I would discuss the ramifications with your daughter, and determine if she would be willing to make the effort in exchange for having the constant frustration looming over her head. Explain the up side (spending less time overall on school) as well as the down side

(possible repeating a grade, or having to catch up at summer school if she doesn't do her part; not having all the same social aspects of school [or is that a pro]).-DougRobin Long <long.robinherbal remedies Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 11:13:00 AM{Herbal Remedies} Re: Home educating is a hundred times better than public school.

 

 

 

 

 

 

We're going through some difficult time right now with our 14 yr old daughter. She has struggled in school for a while now. Now she is a freshman in high school. I feel so helpless and frustrated at the same time. She was labeled with ADD back in 3rd grade. We don't have her on medication and wouldn't. She struggles in school and now to the point she is always upset and stressed. She can't keep up with the assignments and always has missing work. She's almost failing all of her classes right now. My husband and I both work, but I do work from home. I'm able to help her some if I were home, but with my work, I probably don't have the time to devote to her that she would need. She's not a self motivator at all. I'm afraid if I were to bring her home and sit her to do her work, she wouldn't do it. I'm not a teacher either and quite frankly, I didn't do well in

school either, so I probably couldn't even teach her.

 

Are there other options for us? Can a program be done part time at home and part time at school? Does anyone have any suggestions for our situation? We're all frustrated and I fear she will struggle for the next 3 years and possibly not even graduate.

 

Robin

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There is a great book called the Teenage Liberation Handbook that is

written to teens to inspire them to take their education into their own

hands. I haven't handed to my teens yet but I have read it myself and it

is an inspiringbook, and full of resources.

If your 14yo is failing and floundering at school...what have you got to

lose? What I found when I brought my kids home from school was that they

shed layers of adaptive behaviours, moodiness, meanness, and coping

mechanisms- and became beautiful, simple, happy people again. My husband

became convinced to support me homeschooling because he saw them change

so much.

If your child is not going to be an academic type kid anyway, there are

many opportunities outside of school to learn and get involved in life.

My 14yo dd is doing the accounting and books for a friend's gardening

business and he begged to pay her an adult wage because she is better at

it than his previous people. So we put half the money into a savings

account for later. It's only 5 hours a week but it's a lot to her.

good luck- it was a big decision for me, but once I took the leap, I

have never looked back

Peela in Australia

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When I worked at a middle school there were kids who came to school

for some subjects and when home for others. I'd check with your states

educational dept. and see their regs on homeschooling.

 

Also, look for a group of parents that already homeschool and see if

you can talk to them. A lot of parents form informal groups for

interaction and support, they might have ideas or info that might help

you.

 

Jules

 

 

herbal remedies , " Robin Long " <long.robin

wrote:

>

> We're going through some difficult time right now with our 14 yr old

> daughter. She has struggled in school for a while now. Now she is a

> freshman in high school. I feel so helpless and frustrated at the

same time.

> She was labeled with ADD back in 3rd grade. We don't have her on

medication

> and wouldn't. She struggles in school and now to the point she is

always

> upset and stressed. She can't keep up with the assignments and

always has

> missing work. She's almost failing all of her classes right now. My

husband

> and I both work, but I do work from home. I'm able to help her some

if I

> were home, but with my work, I probably don't have the time to

devote to her

> that she would need. She's not a self motivator at all. I'm afraid if I

> were to bring her home and sit her to do her work, she wouldn't do

it. I'm

> not a teacher either and quite frankly, I didn't do well in school

either,

> so I probably couldn't even teach her.

>

> Are there other options for us? Can a program be done part time at

home and

> part time at school? Does anyone have any suggestions for our

situation?

> We're all frustrated and I fear she will struggle for the next 3

years and

> possibly not even graduate.

>

> Robin

>