hawthorn berry for high blood pressure

[Guest guest]

Hi

I'm collecting fresh hawthorn berries and making tea and drinking it

3 times a day to bring down my high BP. Can i drink TOO much of it ?

Does it matter how many berries i use per cup of tea? I squash the

berries first to get more strength in the tea and decoct it for 20

mins. Am i doing it right ? Thanks for any help.

 

lucy

[Guest guest]

probably YES.

 

it is a vaso dilator and seems to have

 

a.c.e. //angio tension conversion enzymes inhibition properties

 

so I think it has to be treated with respect.

 

look up Michael Murray, Rosemary Gladstar/slick, David Hoffman,

 

Louise Tenney, John Christopher and compare the doseages that they

 

talk about.

 

my hunch is about 500 mg but I don't remember... so do some research.

 

have you ever heard of birds "drunk" on hawthorn berries? They eat it and their bp gets too low for a while. Makes birds "drunk" and cats full. lol

 

Mike--- On Sun, 12/7/08, devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659 wrote:

devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659{Herbal Remedies} hawthorn berry for high blood pressureherbal remedies Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 1:23 AM

 

 

HiI'm collecting fresh hawthorn berries and making tea and drinking it 3 times a day to bring down my high BP. Can i drink TOO much of it ? Does it matter how many berries i use per cup of tea? I squash the berries first to get more strength in the tea and decoct it for 20 mins. Am i doing it right ? Thanks for any help.lucy

[Guest guest]

---Hi Mike

Thanks very much for your reply. Will certainly look up

those names as i could find nothing much on dosage. Just not sure how

i'll know how many berries per mg but will see what it all says.

Haven't heard of birds getting drunk on it lol and unfortunately

haven't got drunk on it yet myself but will keep trying <<<wink>>>

 

lucy

 

 

 

..In herbal remedies , Michael traster

<michaelpault wrote:

>

> probably YES.

>  

> it is a vaso dilator and seems to have

>  

> a.c.e. //angio tension conversion enzymes inhibition properties

>  

> so I think it has to be treated with respect.

>  

> look up Michael Murray, Rosemary Gladstar/slick, David Hoffman,

>  

> Louise Tenney, John Christopher and compare the doseages that they

>  

> talk about.

>  

> my hunch is about 500 mg but I don't remember... so do some

research.

>  

> have you ever heard of birds " drunk " on hawthorn berries? They eat

it and their bp gets too low for a while. Makes birds " drunk " and

cats full. lol

>  

> Mike

>

>

>

> -

[Guest guest]

--- Hi all

Well after doing this for one month my BP has gradually come

down from as high as 177/86 to 125/65!!! I can hardly believe this

myself and am wondering if the very high BP was just a blip ?? The

nurse who took my BP was adamant i would need BP tabs and i was just

as adamant i would n't be taking them. I did take enteric coated

aspirin for 2 weeks because it was so high but never intended to use

them for long and stopped them after 2 weeks but my BP continued

coming down. Could they still be having an effect on my BP ? I have

also been taking magnesium ( read that low magnesium can be a cause

of high BP) and have sent off for 1000mgs garlic capsules( i tried it

raw but couldn't deal with it )

I also have had a very erratic pulse (VE's)getting worse since i

was 19 (now 51) and that seems to have disappeared too!! I know

that what i read said that hawthorn berries could do all this but in

a month???!!!

 

lucy xxx

 

 

..In herbal remedies , " devjan2003 "

<lucyloulou964659 wrote:

>

> Hi

> I'm collecting fresh hawthorn berries and making tea and

drinking it

> 3 times a day to bring down my high BP. Can i drink TOO much of

it ?

> Does it matter how many berries i use per cup of tea? I squash the

> berries first to get more strength in the tea and decoct it for 20

> mins. Am i doing it right ? Thanks for any help.

>

> lucy

>

[Guest guest]

GO GIRL!!Wow that is great!I am going to remember this. I dont have personal experience with BP but from what I have read and learned over and over again, is cayenne will put BP where it needs to be, there is someone I have in mind that might benefit from this info I will be sure to pass it on. Many herbs have a myriad of arrays what they are useful for and you have proven that. Have a Happy and Healthy Day,Gina Kopera M.H. devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659herbal remedies Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:11:30 AM{Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood pressure

 

--- Hi all

Well after doing this for one month my BP has gradually come

down from as high as 177/86 to 125/65!!! I can hardly believe this

myself and am wondering if the very high BP was just a blip ?? The

nurse who took my BP was adamant i would need BP tabs and i was just

as adamant i would n't be taking them. I did take enteric coated

aspirin for 2 weeks because it was so high but never intended to use

them for long and stopped them after 2 weeks but my BP continued

coming down. Could they still be having an effect on my BP ? I have

also been taking magnesium ( read that low magnesium can be a cause

of high BP) and have sent off for 1000mgs garlic capsules( i tried it

raw but couldn't deal with it )

I also have had a very erratic pulse (VE's)getting worse since i

was 19 (now 51) and that seems to have disappeared too!! I know

that what i read said that hawthorn berries could do all this but in

a month???!!!

 

lucy xxx

 

..In herbal remedies, "devjan2003"

<lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:

>

> Hi

> I'm collecting fresh hawthorn berries and making tea and

drinking it

> 3 times a day to bring down my high BP. Can i drink TOO much of

it ?

> Does it matter how many berries i use per cup of tea? I squash the

> berries first to get more strength in the tea and decoct it for 20

> mins. Am i doing it right ? Thanks for any help.

>

> lucy

>

[Guest guest]

Great news Lucy. I'm curious how much hawthorn do you use daily?

 

Mike--- On Sat, 12/13/08, devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659 wrote:

devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659{Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood pressureherbal remedies Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 1:11 AM

 

 

--- Hi allWell after doing this for one month my BP has gradually come down from as high as 177/86 to 125/65!!! I can hardly believe this myself and am wondering if the very high BP was just a blip ?? The nurse who took my BP was adamant i would need BP tabs and i was just as adamant i would n't be taking them. I did take enteric coated aspirin for 2 weeks because it was so high but never intended to use them for long and stopped them after 2 weeks but my BP continued coming down. Could they still be having an effect on my BP ? I have also been taking magnesium ( read that low magnesium can be a cause of high BP) and have sent off for 1000mgs garlic capsules( i tried it raw but couldn't deal with it )I also have had a very erratic pulse (VE's)getting worse since i was 19 (now 51) and that seems to have disappeared too!! I know that what i read said that hawthorn berries could do all this but in

a month???!!!lucy xxx.In herbal remedies, "devjan2003" <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:>> Hi> I'm collecting fresh hawthorn berries and making tea and drinking it > 3 times a day to bring down my high BP. Can i drink TOO much of it ? > Does it matter how many berries i use per cup of tea? I squash the > berries first to get more strength in the tea and decoct it for 20 > mins. Am i doing it right ? Thanks for any help.> > lucy>

[Guest guest]

--- Hi Mike

I'm using 6 tablespoons of hawthorn berries, squashed and

then decocted for 2o minutes in a pan of hot water and then i have 3

cups of tea out of it over the course of a day.

 

lucy

 

In herbal remedies , Michael traster

<michaelpault wrote:

>

> Great news Lucy. I'm curious   how much hawthorn do you use daily?

>  

> Mike

>

>

>

> --- On Sat, 12/13/08, devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659 wrote:

>

> devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659

> {Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood

pressure

> herbal remedies

> Saturday, December 13, 2008, 1:11 AM

--- Hi all

> Well after doing this for one month my BP has gradually come

> down from as high as 177/86 to 125/65!!! I can hardly believe this

> myself and am wondering if the very high BP was just a blip ?? The

> nurse who took my BP was adamant i would need BP tabs and i was

just

> as adamant i would n't be taking them. I did take enteric coated

> aspirin for 2 weeks because it was so high but never intended to

use

> them for long and stopped them after 2 weeks but my BP continued

> coming down. Could they still be having an effect on my BP ? I have

> also been taking magnesium ( read that low magnesium can be a cause

> of high BP) and have sent off for 1000mgs garlic capsules( i tried

it

> raw but couldn't deal with it )

> I also have had a very erratic pulse (VE's)getting worse since i

> was 19 (now 51) and that seems to have disappeared too!! I know

> that what i read said that hawthorn berries could do all this but

in

> a month???!!!

>

> lucy xxx

>

> .In herbal remedies, " devjan2003 "

> <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi

> > I'm collecting fresh hawthorn berries and making tea and

> drinking it

> > 3 times a day to bring down my high BP. Can i drink TOO much of

> it ?

> > Does it matter how many berries i use per cup of tea? I squash

the

> > berries first to get more strength in the tea and decoct it for

20

> > mins. Am i doing it right ? Thanks for any help.

> >

> > lucy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

--- Thanks very much Gina. Am finding it all quite amazing myself and

still wondering if its some sort of coincidence. I also read that you

needed to use the flowers and the leaves as well as the berries to

get an effect but at this time of year here , theres only berries

left on the trees so thats all i've been able to use. I do hope it

works for others.

 

lucy

 

 

..In herbal remedies , Gina Kopera <ginakopera1

wrote:

>

> GO GIRL!!Wow that is great!

> I am going to remember this. I dont have personal experience with

BP but from what I have read and learned over and over again, is

cayenne will put BP where it needs to be, there is someone I have in

mind that might benefit from this info I will be sure to pass it on.

Many herbs have a myriad of arrays what they are useful for and you

have proven that.

>

>

> Have a Happy and Healthy Day,

>

> Gina Kopera M.H.

>

>

________________________________

> devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659

> herbal remedies

> Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:11:30 AM

> {Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood

pressure

>

>

> --- Hi all

> Well after doing this for one month my BP has gradually come

> down from as high as 177/86 to 125/65!!! I can hardly believe this

> myself and am wondering if the very high BP was just a blip ?? The

> nurse who took my BP was adamant i would need BP tabs and i was

just

> as adamant i would n't be taking them. I did take enteric coated

> aspirin for 2 weeks because it was so high but never intended to

use

> them for long and stopped them after 2 weeks but my BP continued

> coming down. Could they still be having an effect on my BP ? I have

> also been taking magnesium ( read that low magnesium can be a cause

> of high BP) and have sent off for 1000mgs garlic capsules( i tried

it

> raw but couldn't deal with it )

> I also have had a very erratic pulse (VE's)getting worse since i

> was 19 (now 51) and that seems to have disappeared too!! I know

> that what i read said that hawthorn berries could do all this but

in

> a month???!!!

>

> lucy xxx

>

> .In herbal remedies, " devjan2003 "

> <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi

> > I'm collecting fresh hawthorn berries and making tea and

> drinking it

> > 3 times a day to bring down my high BP. Can i drink TOO much of

> it ?

> > Does it matter how many berries i use per cup of tea? I squash

the

> > berries first to get more strength in the tea and decoct it for

20

> > mins. Am i doing it right ? Thanks for any help.

> >

> > lucy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lucy,

 

thanks.. gee that must be about 15 grams or so... Mike--- On Sat, 12/13/08, devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659 wrote:

devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659{Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood pressureherbal remedies Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 8:20 AM

 

 

--- Hi MikeI'm using 6 tablespoons of hawthorn berries, squashed and then decocted for 2o minutes in a pan of hot water and then i have 3 cups of tea out of it over the course of a day.lucy In herbal remedies, Michael traster <michaelpault@ ...> wrote:>> Great news Lucy. I'm curious how much hawthorn do you use daily? > > Mike> > > > --- On Sat, 12/13/08, devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:> > devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659@ ...>> {Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood pressure> herbal remedies> Saturday, December 13, 2008, 1:11 AM> >

> > > > > --- Hi all> Well after doing this for one month my BP has gradually come > down from as high as 177/86 to 125/65!!! I can hardly believe this > myself and am wondering if the very high BP was just a blip ?? The > nurse who took my BP was adamant i would need BP tabs and i was just > as adamant i would n't be taking them. I did take enteric coated > aspirin for 2 weeks because it was so high but never intended to use > them for long and stopped them after 2 weeks but my BP continued > coming down. Could they still be having an effect on my BP ? I have > also been taking magnesium ( read that low magnesium can be a cause > of high BP) and have sent off for 1000mgs garlic capsules( i tried it > raw but couldn't deal with it )> I also have had a very erratic pulse (VE's)getting worse since i > was 19 (now 51)

and that seems to have disappeared too!! I know > that what i read said that hawthorn berries could do all this but in > a month???!!!> > lucy xxx> > .In herbal remedies, "devjan2003" > <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:> >> > Hi> > I'm collecting fresh hawthorn berries and making tea and > drinking it > > 3 times a day to bring down my high BP. Can i drink TOO much of > it ? > > Does it matter how many berries i use per cup of tea? I squash the > > berries first to get more strength in the tea and decoct it for 20 > > mins. Am i doing it right ? Thanks for any help.> > > > lucy> >>

[Guest guest]

stupid question ....

 

i live in florida , and have no clue IF and WHERE hawthorn grows here . i think its a northern plant .

 

this said and assumed that my thinking is correct ... is hawthorn available in pillform or as a tea ?? looseleaf or in teabags ???

 

thanks for any ideas .

 

 

MARANATHA !

 

gabriele

gcliburn

 

 

[Guest guest]

herbal remedies , Michael traster

<michaelpault wrote:

>

I've taken the homeopathic hawthorn berry, Crutageous, for more than

a year. My BP was sky high and it took about 5 weeks for it to

return to normal, where it has stayed. My homeopath said that

everybody over 50 should take it for their heart and circulation.

 

 

 

> Hi Lucy,

>  

> thanks.. gee that must be about 15 grams or so... Mike

>

>

>

> --- On Sat, 12/13/08, devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659 wrote:

>

> devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659

> {Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood

pressure

> herbal remedies

> Saturday, December 13, 2008, 8:20 AM

--- Hi Mike

> I'm using 6 tablespoons of hawthorn berries, squashed and

> then decocted for 2o minutes in a pan of hot water and then i have

3

> cups of tea out of it over the course of a day.

>

> lucy

>

> In herbal remedies, Michael traster

> <michaelpault@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Great news Lucy. I'm curious   how much hawthorn do you use

daily?

> >  

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

> > --- On Sat, 12/13/08, devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659@ ...>

> > {Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood

> pressure

> > herbal remedies

> > Saturday, December 13, 2008, 1:11 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Hi all

> > Well after doing this for one month my BP has gradually come

> > down from as high as 177/86 to 125/65!!! I can hardly believe

this

> > myself and am wondering if the very high BP was just a blip ??

The

> > nurse who took my BP was adamant i would need BP tabs and i was

> just

> > as adamant i would n't be taking them. I did take enteric coated

> > aspirin for 2 weeks because it was so high but never intended to

> use

> > them for long and stopped them after 2 weeks but my BP continued

> > coming down. Could they still be having an effect on my BP ? I

have

> > also been taking magnesium ( read that low magnesium can be a

cause

> > of high BP) and have sent off for 1000mgs garlic capsules( i

tried

> it

> > raw but couldn't deal with it )

> > I also have had a very erratic pulse (VE's)getting worse since i

> > was 19 (now 51) and that seems to have disappeared too!! I know

> > that what i read said that hawthorn berries could do all this but

> in

> > a month???!!!

> >

> > lucy xxx

> >

> > .In herbal remedies, " devjan2003 "

> > <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi

> > > I'm collecting fresh hawthorn berries and making tea and

> > drinking it

> > > 3 times a day to bring down my high BP. Can i drink TOO much of

> > it ?

> > > Does it matter how many berries i use per cup of tea? I squash

> the

> > > berries first to get more strength in the tea and decoct it for

> 20

> > > mins. Am i doing it right ? Thanks for any help.

> > >

> > > lucy

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hawthorne WILL grow in Atlanta - we got a couple from the Arbor Foundation

several years ago. They were just little whips, but grew quickly. Within a

very few years they were pretty good-sized trees and the one getting full sun

was starting to blossom in June. LOVELY blossoms with a great scent, but the

blossom phase only lasted a few days. The berries came out in about July,

ripening VERY slowly. There were a LOT of bright red berries covering the tree.

Even without the medicinal value (which has kept me off BP meds), it's a

beautiful tree. Two comments. The hawthorne comes by its name honestly.

Every branch is covered with 2 inch long needle-sharp spikes. It pays to pick

berries carefully. We didn't go after the ones in the top branches for two

reasons - the first is that the lower branches met our needs and the second is

that the birds and squirrels LOVED the berries about as much as they liked the

persimmons in the adjacent tree, and we

like to leave something for them.

 

Now that we've moved to Alabama, I plan to get another couple of trees. I tried

to propagate from a branch taken from our trees, but that didn't go well.

 

I'd try it in Florida. I think the tree might do just fine.

 

Janet

 

--- On Sat, 12/13/08, gabriele <gcliburn wrote:

 

> gabriele <gcliburn

> Re: {Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood pressure

> herbal remedies

> Saturday, December 13, 2008, 9:03 PM

> stupid question ....

>

> i live in florida , and have no clue IF and WHERE hawthorn

> grows here . i

> think its a northern plant .

>

> this said and assumed that my thinking is correct ... is

> hawthorn available

> in pillform or as a tea ?? looseleaf or in teabags ???

>

> thanks for any ideas .

>

> MARANATHA !

>

> gabriele

> gcliburn

[Guest guest]

Hi Michael,Thanks for the info. What potency and what dosage are you taking?kutekidz <crcjctherbal remedies Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:58:38 AM{Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood pressure

 

herbal remedies, Michael traster

<michaelpault@ ...> wrote:

>

I've taken the homeopathic hawthorn berry, Crutageous, for more than

a year. My BP was sky high and it took about 5 weeks for it to

return to normal, where it has stayed. My homeopath said that

everybody over 50 should take it for their heart and circulation.

 

> Hi Lucy,

>

> thanks.. gee that must be about 15 grams or so... Mike

>

>

>

> --- On Sat, 12/13/08, devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:

>

> devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659@ ...>

> {Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood

pressure

> herbal remedies

> Saturday, December 13, 2008, 8:20 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --- Hi Mike

> I'm using 6 tablespoons of hawthorn berries, squashed and

> then decocted for 2o minutes in a pan of hot water and then i have

3

> cups of tea out of it over the course of a day.

>

> lucy

>

> In herbal remedies, Michael traster

> <michaelpault@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Great news Lucy. I'm curious how much hawthorn do you use

daily?

> >

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

> > --- On Sat, 12/13/08, devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659@ ...>

> > {Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood

> pressure

> > herbal remedies

> > Saturday, December 13, 2008, 1:11 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Hi all

> > Well after doing this for one month my BP has gradually come

> > down from as high as 177/86 to 125/65!!! I can hardly believe

this

> > myself and am wondering if the very high BP was just a blip ??

The

> > nurse who took my BP was adamant i would need BP tabs and i was

> just

> > as adamant i would n't be taking them. I did take enteric coated

> > aspirin for 2 weeks because it was so high but never intended to

> use

> > them for long and stopped them after 2 weeks but my BP continued

> > coming down. Could they still be having an effect on my BP ? I

have

> > also been taking magnesium ( read that low magnesium can be a

cause

> > of high BP) and have sent off for 1000mgs garlic capsules( i

tried

> it

> > raw but couldn't deal with it )

> > I also have had a very erratic pulse (VE's)getting worse since i

> > was 19 (now 51) and that seems to have disappeared too!! I know

> > that what i read said that hawthorn berries could do all this but

> in

> > a month???!!!

> >

> > lucy xxx

> >

> > .In herbal remedies, "devjan2003"

> > <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi

> > > I'm collecting fresh hawthorn berries and making tea and

> > drinking it

> > > 3 times a day to bring down my high BP. Can i drink TOO much of

> > it ?

> > > Does it matter how many berries i use per cup of tea? I squash

> the

> > > berries first to get more strength in the tea and decoct it for

> 20

> > > mins. Am i doing it right ? Thanks for any help.

> > >

> > > lucy

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I used to use it.. around 500 mg 2x a day gave me about a 10 to 15 drop in bp...

 

think I may resume it's use..

 

M--- On Sun, 12/14/08, Frederique Nault <feenault wrote:

Frederique Nault <feenaultRe: {Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood pressureherbal remedies Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 5:09 PM

 

 

 

 

Hi Michael,Thanks for the info. What potency and what dosage are you taking?

 

 

 

kutekidz <crcjct. com>herbal remediesSunday, December 14, 2008 5:58:38 AM{Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood pressure

 

herbal remedies, Michael traster <michaelpault@ ...> wrote:>I've taken the homeopathic hawthorn berry, Crutageous, for more than a year. My BP was sky high and it took about 5 weeks for it to return to normal, where it has stayed. My homeopath said that everybody over 50 should take it for their heart and circulation.> Hi Lucy,> > thanks.. gee that must be about 15 grams or so... Mike> > > > --- On Sat, 12/13/08, devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:> > devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659@ ...>> {Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood pressure> herbal remedies> Saturday,

December 13, 2008, 8:20 AM> > > > > > > --- Hi Mike> I'm using 6 tablespoons of hawthorn berries, squashed and > then decocted for 2o minutes in a pan of hot water and then i have 3 > cups of tea out of it over the course of a day.> > lucy > > In herbal remedies, Michael traster > <michaelpault@ ...> wrote:> >> > Great news Lucy. I'm curious how much hawthorn do you use daily? > > > > Mike> > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 12/13/08, devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:> > > > devjan2003 <lucyloulou964659@ ...>> > {Herbal Remedies} Re: hawthorn berry for high blood > pressure> > herbal remedies> > Saturday, December

13, 2008, 1:11 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Hi all> > Well after doing this for one month my BP has gradually come > > down from as high as 177/86 to 125/65!!! I can hardly believe this > > myself and am wondering if the very high BP was just a blip ?? The > > nurse who took my BP was adamant i would need BP tabs and i was > just > > as adamant i would n't be taking them. I did take enteric coated > > aspirin for 2 weeks because it was so high but never intended to > use > > them for long and stopped them after 2 weeks but my BP continued > > coming down. Could they still be having an effect on my BP ? I have > > also been taking magnesium ( read that low magnesium can be a cause > > of high BP) and have sent off for 1000mgs garlic capsules( i

tried > it > > raw but couldn't deal with it )> > I also have had a very erratic pulse (VE's)getting worse since i > > was 19 (now 51) and that seems to have disappeared too!! I know > > that what i read said that hawthorn berries could do all this but > in > > a month???!!!> > > > lucy xxx> > > > .In herbal remedies, "devjan2003" > > <lucyloulou964659@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Hi> > > I'm collecting fresh hawthorn berries and making tea and > > drinking it > > > 3 times a day to bring down my high BP. Can i drink TOO much of > > it ? > > > Does it matter how many berries i use per cup of tea? I squash > the > > > berries first to get more strength in the tea and decoct it for > 20 > > > mins.

Am i doing it right ? Thanks for any help.> > > > > > lucy> > >> >>